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Mutatis Mutandis: Things to Consider
Nope, no fresh scams here, just a few things that have been on my mind for a while… I. Cons do not come with any blueprints, and any that claim to do so should not be followed but developed, built upon, overcome. Every scam textfile you read, every swindle idea you overhear, or every grift you pick up from the evening news, all are to be challenged, analyzed, and remixed to suit your needs. Scams are springboards of multifarious possibilities, they are not recipes that you memorize and then follow mindlessly. There is no such thing as ‘this is what works and this is how you do it.’ You memorize a short-changing bit, get your shit down pat, and then the cashier fucks your game up and hands you two fives instead of a ten. You must adapt general advice to your specific situation. You must give yourself enough room to change your game halfway. If you don’t, you will fail, get tripped up, get nailed. Any text which promises universal success “if you do everything this way” is lying. Following this, statements along the lines of “this won’t work” are to be ignored or laughed at, as are boasts akin to “this will definitely work.” Scams are inherently malleable to the given situation. People are stupid, the challenge lies in figuring out who’s got more brains, the grifter or the mark. There is ample room to situate yourself into your particular situation, to do your own research and make your own molding. This is necessary. DIY is a fundamental characteristic of fraud. You’re not painting by numbers, you’re taking shit into your own hands, scoping out your own scene, rooting out your own weaknesses and flaws before anything else. This does not mean never ask for advice. Do treat it as saying that if you don’t do your own research you might as well turn yourself in right now. Get the spark and then start your own fire, you’ll be burning the mark yourself—YOU—no guide can do it for you, not even this one. There always are, and always will be, exceptions. Find them. II. Don’t act like a fucking pig. “Has anyone actually done this?” See I. Never put anyone in that position. If you are put in that position, answering anything besides a solid No will result in you regretting it, if not today then tomorrow, you will step into some bad shit. Simple enough. Keep your shoes shiny. III. Think anthills. Salami slicing. Penny pinching. Cost shaving. The small things add up. The question isn’t how do I jack that lappy worth 2G’s. The question is exactly how many fucking vitamins do I have to return to get enough cash for that lappy I want. Don’t wheel all that schwag out in one go, return five, ten, twenty times. That’s an obvious exaggeration, if you don’t see that, then you’ve understood nothing. Go back and reread from the beginning. Minimize risk. But don’t miss opportunities. Misdemeanors are better than felonies. A can of mace and quick feet can be better than both. A quick tongue trumps them all. IV. Read all of this at least once more. Yeah, it's just that important. Everything written here is

a lie and should be treated as such. Destroy it. Copasetic? Mundus vult decipi, ergo decipiatur. Now ignore everything you just skimmed over and get back to what you do best—namely, fucking up. ~DIzzIE '06 ([email protected]) [ www.dizzy.ws | www.rorta.net ]

UNDERGROUND FORUM ROUNDUP
Version 2.0
Compiled by: DIzzIE {with much gratitude to all contributors!} [c]opyleft 2005 Here’s a collection of currently active forums that are either centered around or devote a significant amount of space to the discussion of various ‘underground’ activities. There is, however, one underground genre that you wont see represented here: warez forums (commonly known as ‘fxp boards’). Their absence is due to the fact that there are several hundred (if not thousands) of fxp boards around, with many shutting down/changing addresses everyday and equally many new ones appearing. Thus, if you’re interested in finding a list of warez forums, simply hammer ‘fxp boards’ into Google and off you go. Note that the forums aren’t listed in any particular order, and are vaguely grouped by area of focus (if any). Some forums require registration before access to the forum is granted. Finally, forums marked as NEW aren't necessarily new in and of themselves, but rather are new additions to this roundup since the last version update. --------------------

All-Purpose Forums:
RORTA “Information is Strength, Knowledge is Power” Underground topics include everything from scams & crime and hacking & phreaking to weapons & survival and chemicals & explosives. Bombshock Drugs, explosives, electronics, and the like... A0tu “Survival in the age of paranoia” Hacking, weapons, explosives, and misc. related discussion. TOTSE “Read * Know * Do” Forum areas include “Bad Ideas,” “Backyard Ballistics,” “Better Living Through Chemistry,” “Mad Scientists,” and many more. With over 33,000 mentally-challenged members, and largely unmoderated poorly moderated forums, you may nonetheless find one informative post for every 100 that you sift through. Flashback

Forums on various topics from drugs to erotica. Available in Danish, English, Norwegian, and Swedish. KBK Forum - NEW "Controversial information for the controversial mind" Explosives & Chemistry, Hacking, Survival, Tutorials, etc.

Dumpster Diving:
Dumpster World “Your dumpster diving and curb crawling resource” Includes discussion of general tips, pictures of finds, dumpster diving meetings, and more. Dumpster Diving “Dumpster Diving for Dumpster Divers and Trashcan Diggers” A (much) smaller version of Dumpster World.

Urban Exploration:
Urban Exploration Resource Includes tutorials, photographs, an UE Encyclopedia, and other pertinent topics. Night Ops Discussion of night-time urban exploration, including advice, anecdotes, and so on...

Conspiracy & Fringe:
AboveTopSecret.com “deny ignorance” A thorough conspiracy forum that covers conspiracies, secret societies, cryptozoology, and any/ every other fringe topic. Club Conspiracy “you are not alone” A smaller conspiracy forum… Conspiracy Central "None dare call it conspiracy...except us" All things related to secret societies, disinformation, and the like. Includes a thriving torrent tracker chock full of useful media. The Paranormal Network Time travel, ESP, conspiracies, and all things paranormal.

Hacking/Phreaking:
Phone Losers Community Forums “No discernable topic since year of the Wood Goat…Happy New Monkey!” Topics include frequency scanning, phreaking, hacking, as well as various off-topic areas: food, filmmaking, etc. johny.ihackstuff.com “I’m Johny. I hack stuff.” A forum devoted to search engine exploits. brain-hack “Security Forum” A forum for discussing various aspects of technological development; not too active, but has various older posts/tutorials worth browsing through. Hackerthreads.org security “DIY or DIE security” A decent collection of tutorials as well as various discussions of aspects of computer hacking. Binary Revolution Forums General hacking/phreaking/radio sections, as well as an interesting section devoted to ‘retail hacking’

XXX Passes:
#XXXPasswords Passes, wordlists, etc. Xisp.org Forums Passes, cracking tuts, and so forth. Paradiseloop Forum Passes, spoofs, help with cracking…

Carding:
The Grifters "TheGrifters.Net is now just an archive of the past. It is no longer associated with its former self. Those in the public can now view what went on in the past with an eye on how to protect themselves in the future

Mazafaka.CC / Carding.Ru (mirror) "forums about e-commerce" Russian/English carding forums: dumps, cashing, drops, etc...They have recently instigated a $10 entrance fee.

Gore:
Ogrish.com Forums “Can you handle life?” With over 155 thousand members, and new posts every few seconds, this is the only gore forum you will ever need. Goregasm.com - NEW "where BONES meet BONERS" Porn/gore videos & images, general discussion, and so forth ;) Forced Existence - NEW "Sick shit your evil soul craves" Sick news, sexual deviance, rants... Infernogore - NEW "for the morbidly curious" Includes a gore images forum as well as a discussion forum

Drukqs:
Pharmaecopia - NEW "Expert pharmacology information and research" Discussion of drugs, paraphernalia, trip reports, anything drug-related. The Lycaeum Forums - NEW Psychedelics, arts, laws... Bluelight - NEW Focus forums include ecstasy/cannabis/steroids/psychedelics Drugs Forum - NEW "the international drugs community" The usual :)

Explosives, Combat, and Mad Science:
The Explosives and Weapons Forum

“Beating plowshares into swords since 1999” Explosives, pyrotechnics, weaponry, and the like. FightingArts Forums Martial arts, weapons, and training. Self-Defense Forums “For a fighting chance” Armed/unarmed combat. Sciencemadness Discussion Board - NEW "the art and science of amateur experimentalism" General chemisry, technochemistry, energetic materials, and so forth...for all of your mad science needs. -------------------If you run across any relevant forums, let me know at [email protected] and I’ll add it to a later version of the roundup! (Likewise, if any of the forums are no longer up or have changed their location, let me know as well). If the direct link to the forum doesn’t work, try navigating to the main site or searching Google. Weiter, weiter ins Verderben

Unofficial Bad Ideas FAQ: Read this before posting in Bad Ideas [v1.2]
Disclaimer Certain parts of this text file deal with activities and devices which would/could be in violation of various Federal, State, and local laws if actually carried out or constructed. I, DIzzIE, do not advocate the breaking of any law. This text file is for informational purposes only. I do not guarantee that any of the information contained either in this file or in any links in this file is correct, workable, or factual. I am not responsible for, nor do I assume any liability for, damages resulting from the use of any information in this file. This FAQ does not necessarily reflect the views of TOTSE, or anyone else. Immanentize the Eschaton. Index: 0. Preamble 1. How can I make x amount of money in y amount of days? 2. What are some revenge ideas for ___? 3. How Can I learn how to fight? 4. What are some household poisons? 5. How/Where Can I get some Fake I.D.s/Credit Card Numbers? 6. I’m bored, what can I do on ____? 7. How Can I pick _____ lock? 8. Where can I get x weapon/how to make x weapon? 9. Where/how can I make/get x explosive? 10. How can I ‘hack’ someone’s email account, website, etc…? 11. What are some shoplifting tips? 12. How can I break into cars? 13. Version History 0. Preamble: Before asking any questions, one should always run through at least four searches. 1) TOTSE Bad Ideas Forum Search 2) TOTSE Main Search 3) Google 4) Alltheweb In point of fact, all the answers to the following questions (which you will notice are mostly links) were found through one of the aforementioned venues. The answers are by no means complete; use one of the above sites to conduct further research on your query. 1. How can I make x amount of money in y amount of days?

There are a number of money-making opportunities, ranging from legitimate, albeit alternative, business operations, to outright fraud and burglary. It is only a matter of browsing ideas and selecting the ones you feel most comfortable carrying out. Browse TOTSE’s vast archive of Scams and Rip-offs, as well as Textfiles.com’s Scams archive. And of course don’t forget about the TOTSE Bad Ideas forum itself. A compendium of online fraud text resources can be found here, and an archive of some of the scams posted in Bad Ideas can be found in the TOTSE Heap O’ Scams compendium I (mirrored here) and II (make more mirrors!). Do all of the ideas discussed in the textfiles work? No. Do some work? Indeed. Use your own judgment, and as stated, select the ones that appeal to you. Just a few case examples and the possible profit you may reap:
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Pick Pocketing - here, here, and here - (Depending on frequency/contents, several hundred a day) Varying Modes of ATM Fraud - (Depending on attempted method, for instance obstructing the money slot, and the number of times carried out, several hundred dollars a day) Tourist Bag - (~$1200 in 3 days) And many, many more, merely browse the extensive scam archives of the aforementioned sites :)

2. What are some revenge ideas for ___?
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The Avenger’s Front Page Make’em Pay: Ultimate Revenge Techniques from the Master Trickster by George Hayduke (mirrored here) The alt.revenge Newsgroup

3. How Can I learn how to fight?
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Self Defense; Armed and Unarmed (2nd Addition) Self Defense Forums Hand to Hand Combat Notes Anthony Sell’s Self-Defense Guide Get Tough! How to win in hand-to-hand Fighting by W. E. Fairbairn More

4. What are some household poisons?

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Index of Poisonous Plants Cornell University Poisonous Plants Informational Database Glossary of Products with Hazards A to Z The Mujahideen Poisons Handbook How to Make Ricin

5. How/Where Can I get some Fake I.D.s/Credit Card Numbers? Several forums have members who deal in the selling of novelty identification/nov. id making paraphernalia. For instance, http://forum.mazafaka.cc (currently offline), http://www.extremecard.com/, or http://www.thegrifters.net/forums/vb66/index.php 6. I’m bored, what can I do on ____? Take a look at TOTSE's Irresponsible Activities archive 7. How Can I pick _____ lock?
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TOTSE's Locks and Security text archive MIT’s Guide to Lockpicking How Lock Picking Works Greg Miller’s Guide to Lockpicking for Beginners Tubular Locks

8. Where can I get x weapon/how to make x weapon? Incorrect forum! This belongs in Weapons & Combat. 9. Where/how can I make/get x explosive? Incorrect forum! This belongs in Backyard Ballistics 10. How can I ‘hack’ someone’s email account, website, etc…? Incorrect forum! This belongs in Network Security & Hacking 11. What are some shoplifting tips?
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The Art of Shoplifting How Anti-Shoplifting Devices Work Beginner’s Guide to Shoplifting Defeating Shoplifting Security Tags How to Steal From Target

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Gone in 60 Seconds Bypassing Car Locks

13. Version History
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1.0 - FAQ created on October 26, 2003 1.1 - Links updated on July 27, 2005 1.2 - FAQ converted to HTML/links updated on August 2, 2005

Email any additional questions you have that aren't in the FAQ, any extra links to the answers already present, or any other general comments/suggestions to [email protected] -DIzzIE

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DISCLAIMER: Certain parts of this text file deal with activities and devices which would be in violation of various Federal, State, and local laws if actually carried out or constructed. I, TX297, do not advocate the breaking of any law. This text file is for informational purposes only. I do not guarantee that any of the information contained in this file is correct, workable, or factual. I am not responsible for, nor do I assume any liability for, damages resulting from the use of any information in this file.

Bad Ideas Heap O' Scams This file started off as a post on the totse.com BBS. The moderators could not keep this as a sticky so I took the initiative to put the information contained in the posts into this text file. Props go to: dDIzzIEe (for making the original post and contributing to the others), and everyone else whe helped and replied to the 'scam' posts.

Contents Barcoding Realistically....................................................................A Small Barcoding Tutorial...................................................................B Desperate Cry for...MONEY*That a KID can do*...............................................C Not really a bad idea, not really a scam, but... [Best Buy Discount idea]..................D How I Got $100 From Gamestop...............................................................E Stealing Pool Games........................................................................F my attempt at a scam... could use tips [Fake return scam idea].............................G Shoplifting................................................................................H Stealing dvds from library.................................................................I walmart return scam - weekend thoughts.....................................................J my new scam idea [Price Match Scam]........................................................K School Locker Rooms........................................................................L Card Games [Duplicating trading cards scam]................................................M milk crates worth a lot?...................................................................N Regarding the Short Change Scam... ........................................................O Possibly Profitable Business... [selling smoke bombs]......................................P Scam Thread................................................................................Q Scams + Making Money.......................................................................R Possible 'Drop' Locations..................................................................S this does work,i just called a buch of food companies,lol [customer complaint scam]........T Free food from sonic.......................................................................U Complaint Letter Scam Writing Tips.........................................................V

The Telemarketer Scam......................................................................W Stealing Bicycles..........................................................................X VENDING MACHINE COIN SCAM..................................................................Y Free Gas????...............................................................................Z Travel Scams and Rip-Offs Continued........................................................AA Blackmailing Stores For Profit.............................................................BB Taking Advantage of Store Sales for Profit.................................................CC Small Money Making Scams?..................................................................DD Fast, easy, free money. [Picking up Drive-Thru Change].....................................EE Travel Scams & Rip-offs {Discovery Channel show summary}...................................FF Dumpster Diving............................................................................GG How to Sell and Copy Games.................................................................HH How to start a riot........................................................................II Playstation Scam...........................................................................JJ Car Shopping...............................................................................KK EBAY LOOP HOLE.............................................................................LL Got RTCW KEY THrough SE [social Engineering]...............................................MM Counterfeiting(my tips)....................................................................NN Check Washing Tools........................................................................OO Robbery Scam...............................................................................PP airport scheme [stealing luggage]..........................................................QQ Shortchange Scam, Version II...............................................................RR SIMPLE, but brilliant scheme! [grab-n-run].................................................SS Recommended reading, and where to get it [book scams and scam books].......................TT Stealing [semi-coherent shoplifting advice?]...............................................UU a combination scam and theft...............................................................VV Blockbuster Scams..........................................................................WW "Spoofing Paypal" Not Exactly [paypal scam link]...........................................XX Stealing Solar Panels [unique idea]........................................................YY Data Mining [getting sensitive data from old hard drives]..................................ZZ Good ideas of making money at school -- any ideas..........................................AAA Getting Free Products by 'writing' reviews.................................................BBB DVD Scam...................................................................................CCC Coinage [finding change]...................................................................DDD save $$ on postage.........................................................................EEE the payphone scam?!?!?!....................................................................FFF Ballot stuffing as prize winning?..........................................................GGG Links......................................................................................HHH

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Posted by: dDIzzIEe

How to accually Barcode in down to earth terms: 1. Barcoding is the Alteration of what scanners read off of a product. For those of you who do not understand how Barcode tech works, i suggest you go to: http://electronics.howstuffworks.com/upc.htm It even has pictures for you tards who can't read well. 2. Now that we know how a barcode works, Class, Its time to pick a item/store to rip off... For my example i choose a computer game (ie. warcraft 3, or Half-life) from a certain electronics store (the one with a logo shaped like a blue price tag). From here on out it will be referred to as "storeX". the idea is to pick something less expensive the first few times around, and to make sure that its a HUGE store. 3. prepare for the mismark: Find a way to get a barcode from a cheap product, find it on the internet, have a cheap one around the house still. Barcodes are never from the store, its printed right on the box now, so as long as storeX carries it, its in their computer. for me i happen to have a box from a cheesey game my aunt got me when i was little, "Nox". Good news is storeX carries it still, and its like $8. i scan the code and print it off on sticker paper. 4. the operation: I walk into storeX a half hour before closing time, sticker in hand (literally). First thing scout out the Mark, i am buying a computer game... who know the least about computer games? some teenage girl! i find the most tired looking blondest girl there, remember what checkout she is in, then head to the sofeware department. find the game, pretend to look it over, find the barcode, and quickly but naturally put on the new one. walk up the the teen girl half talking, half mumbling "I can't belive IT'S on clearance!" hand it to her, and while she scans it say something like "long night?" Most of the time they will respond to that one (teenage girls love a chance to vent their bitchyness)pay the girl, and walk out. its that simple.

Now some tips: - make sure the old barcode is covvered really good, perhaps make the sticker extra thick by putting the sticker on top of another sticker. -go right before closeing time, evveryone one is at the end of their shift, its late, nobodies at their best, they just want out of there! perfect for barcoding -Putting the barcode on: don't take to much time with it, before you go to the shelf, peel the sticker off the paper, so you just have to slap it on. pick up the box, and just add on your sticker, like it is the most natural thing in the world. -pick your mark wisely:

Make sure to pick the person who know the least about your product, choose a 50 year old man if you wanna mark down make-up and shit like that, pick teenage girls for all electronics. make sure to make small talk, it takes focus off the price. I even have been known to pull the "you look familiar... what school do you go to?" "oh smalltown central?! i graduated X years ago!" -if they look funny about the pricce when it gets rung up act suprised say "whoa thats not right! i will go get a different copy, put that one off to the side girl!" then walk off towards the shelf, but run out the door in a minute or so. _________________________________________________________________________________ Replies: So when the cashier scans the game Warcraft III and it displays "Lunar Landing" on the computer screen for $5, do you think she's not going to notice? _________________________________________________________________________________ One of the ONLY ways you are going to get away with it, is it you have an entire cart full of merchanise and he/she's scanning many things. But still, I doubt they will fall for it. First of all, if there is a big sale, they know about it. Second, they are supposed to watch the moniter after each scan to make sure it rings up as the right product. It's their job. _________________________________________________________________________________ The reality of the matter is, the cashier sometimes reads, and sometimes ignores the screen. Most of the time, they dont bother looking at that screen at all. If you are smart, you can even find items of similar wording to barcode, reducing the risk of detection. Yes, barcoding works. Does it require some skill and luck? Yes indeed it does. Every scam has some element of chance, and so does this one. Lower your chance of getting caught by being smart and following instructions. _________________________________________________________________________________ Also, a few threads down there are 2 more threads on barcoding, and each has its unique information. I beleive one of them even has a link to the UPC generator, which would be useful indeed. _________________________________________________________________________________ In that particular scenario, it'd be easier to just put the Warcraft CD into the Lunar Landing box... _________________________________________________________________________________ just read my thing about barcoding on here. it's much more practicle. no offense but it's true... cashiers tend to look at screens. and especially a store like storeX, i used to work at office max and could tell you the price of every single item in that store, because there are only a few. i mean there are like 50,000 but they are all related so you learn what the expensive items are. hit a place like walmart, target, etc _________________________________________________________________________________ This idea is accually pretty good. Although, all that effort you spend in scanning and printing seems to be the classic case of people over-thinking these scams. When I was 12 yrs old I was at a store and I saw a $50 rc car that I wanted and so I looked around for a clearance sticker to put on it and hopefully get it for cheaper. I had found one for $5 and I stuck it on and went to buy the car. Now many stores have a "customer first" policy, where they have to give you the lower price. And so after the cashier looked confused for a minute she gave me the "clearance" price. I also do this one in the Wherehouse music store and it works great. I also have found, that if you shop in a richer neighborhood that you are able to get away w/ every scam in the book. _________________________________________________________________________________ you can greatly increase the chances of getting away with this, and also your profitability if your friend works at the store and you go through his or her line... _________________________________________________________________________________ quote: __________ Assuming that the item is in a box, such as a software game, why couldn't you just take the disc out and put it in another box? If done neatly, it seems alot easier and safer than switching barcodes. __________

if the store has no cameras and is poorly attended, then that works fine. but nost software stores are better tahn that. if you stick the barcode on the box correctly, it looks a hell of a lot more casual than opening 2 boxes and switching the contents. i dont have any experience in this, it just seems like what i said would be correct.

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Posted by: flipz Ok this is not supposed to be a big barcoding tutorial, as there is one here: http://www.shadowcrew.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=12248 . i am just trying to post some things i know about it, and if anyone else could add some that would be great! i am looking for people to post websites or anything else to help out with doing this. here are ones ive found http://www.microcenter.com is the only site ive found so far that has UPC's on their product description. i know there are more so please post some the most useful site ive found is http://www.barcodesinc.com/generator/ . i spent about 2 months trying to find a good barcode font for free a few years back (not for this purpose) and i came across this site which lets you make online barcodes for free, and completely customize them. also if anyone has sites that happens to show pictures that show the product UPC. not for the purpose of seeing what the UPC is, but just to see the layout of it. if it has text above the upc, below it, a checksum upc, etc. hopefully someone posts so this thread doesn't fall off, and i get some help with it. the biggest thing im looking for is websites that list product UPC numbers.

_________________________________________________________________________________ Replies: For sites that have their product UPC codes online, run a Google image search for something along the lines of 'UPC code' or 'product bar code.' Another idea would be to visit a store with a digital camera and set up a little site for everyone And to see the layout of UPC codes pay a visit to www.howstuffworks.com or run a Google search for 'how UPC codes work' or 'UPC code layout.' _________________________________________________________________________________

one thing i wanted to add was i think this would best be done on a sunday, monday, or maybe tuesday. because that way even if the cashier thinks they know the price of the item you are buying, new sales always start on sunday (in the US atleast) so they will just assume it's on sale. _________________________________________________________________________________ quote: __________ so if a cashier happens to glance at the screen and see something along the lines of 'socks' for a bottle of Port... __________ thats why you get something similar. for example: Regular RCA universal remote - ring up as RCA Univ Rmt - price: $8.99 RCA universal touch screen remote - ring up as RCA Univ Rmt - price: $99.99 -orPioneer DVD player - rings up as Pioneer DVD DV333 - price: $299 Pioneer DVD burner - rings up as Pioner DVD R333 - price: $899 you don't try it with socks. _________________________________________________________________________________ quote: __________ The problem often isn't that the cashiers know the price (more often than not they wont know the price anyway), the problem is that the cashregister monitors display the product name, so if a cashier happens to glance at the screen and see something along the lines of 'socks' for a bottle of Port... __________ Of course, this problem can be circumvented entirely by the use of the self- checkout stations commonly found in many grocery stores nowadays. _________________________________________________________________________________ quote: __________ hrmm, wow. i never even thought about that! haha. now does anyone have any details on these? maybe someone works where they have them? the only time ive seen them they have like 4 of them, and a worker sitting in the middle. now if you walk through with some low cost items, and a dvd player, i wonder if they check your receipt or something. anyone know? __________ The ones I've seen at K-Mart are unattended, with cameras at the actual checkout stations looking down at you. If there was an employee around to watch, they're usually too busy running around cleaning up the perpetual messes the mexicans leave behind when they shop. Wear a hat and some sunglasses, and you're unidentifiable. Of course, this is a 'ghetto' K-Mart in a 'ghetto' part of town. In more upscale stores, they might check your receipt, and if this scam gets overused by everyone, they DEFINITELY will start if they haven't already. _________________________________________________________________________________ The self-checkout stations I’ve seen have scales. You will need to keep the bag weight (and probably item weight)with-in their limits for this to work. You will need to know the weight of the item you are ripping and the weight of the item you are scaming for it and compensate the difference. _________________________________________________________________________________ some info on self-checkout lines: http://personal.bgsu.edu/~nberg/chilabs/musing1.htm quote: __________

Example of passing the error: The Meijer system requires the self-checkout manager to push a button whenever an item's weight is above or below its 'standard.' If you bought a pound of cheese and it weighed 5% too much or too little according to the scale, this is interpreted as an error. The remedy requires the line manager to push a button stating that he verified the item to be cheese and the new weight should be added to the database. Unfortunately, he cannot easily check, as the item is already bagged. Thus, line managers never bother to verify items. Imposing the weight error onto the line manager only makes them push buttons like a starving rats in a Skinner box. They do not pay attention to the items! A check of actual use by the machine designers would have exposed this flaw. __________ quote: __________ KMart: The machines are so simple, in fact, that they require no separate self-checkout manager. Not once have I run into an error with the Kmart system. It works so well that I still don't know if it has a scale-check. __________ http://sacramento.bizjournals.com/sacramento/stories/2002/05/13/ focus3.html quote: __________ Shoplifting is a fear among retailers. But the systems are equipped with security measures. The bagging areas of the NCR systems, for instance, have scales. The system knows how much an item is supposed to weigh, according to the bar code that is scanned. If a customer puts in two items but scans only one, the system will shut down and require an employee to restart the checkout process. Kmart also has security cameras installed in the self-checkout areas, so customers are monitored while they scan and bag their merchandise. __________ so much for that idea

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Posted by: HackinDruggie

Aight. Im 14 and only get money on X mas and b Day which both LONG away and i need some cash for lots of stuff i want.Gifts.Cool stuff.Concert tickets. Lots of stuff. Parents NEVER buy me anything or give me money. If you all got ideas how a 14 year old kid can *legally or IlLEGALLY*Make some cash. I need some. Im already Selling mix cds at school for 10 bucks. But i dont get many customers. Any simple *or complex as long as i could do it* ideas? And lay off the Oh well your can hack so why dont you just....blah blah blah shit..

_________________________________________________________________________________ Replies: i make fake things for kids at school sometimes like fake off campus passes and stuff like that. _________________________________________________________________________________ go down to local bookshop. ask to see manager. say you like to read the paper. say you like to try delivering paper. get name on waiting list. wait. i think you can handle it from there. _________________________________________________________________________________ Oh come on. Be original. I've always found ways to make money. Never had an official, over-the-table job. I make more money than both my parents put together. Some businesses where you can make SHITLOADS of money. #1: novelty ID. You'll need maybe a few hundred bucks to get the setup, it'll pay for itself in 2 days. If you go to a high school, you'll be able to make maybe $500 a day after the first week, when people start hearing about you. #2: clandestine chemistry. Gotta maybe, just maybe, learn something for this one. Once again, you can make a shitload of cash. #3: scamming, carding, etc. Check out shadowcrew.com. _________________________________________________________________________________ Well, you could either: 1. break into houses and steal the money 2. become a pimp 3. sell drugs(big seller) 4. get a job 5. not only sell music cd's but try pc games and naughty cd's 6. find a reciept from like k-mart and go inside grab the item and return it to get the moo moo! _________________________________________________________________________________ alright bud im only 13 and I got around 50$ doing this and I didn't get busted. Jam A coke machine that people only use during the day (like a school vending machine) then everyone will lose there money in it and the money is just sitting there in the slot like you can see it do you know what I mean? Well go back around 7pm so not very many people are there and take a paper clip and pull the money out it works belive me. in about 2 weeks I got 50$. Also steal small expensive things and sell them 3$ dollars cheaper and everyone will buy the shit. _________________________________________________________________________________ DOWNLOAD PORNO AND SELL IT, I MADE AU$20 PER CD DOING THAT!!!!

or more reasonably...put like 1 or 2 epis of MILF hunter or Bangbus on one and charge a fiver, people WILL pay!

Its easy money and you can truthfully say you've been in the porn industry. _________________________________________________________________________________ The porn CDs already suggested are probably profitable with minimal investment. Also look into dumpster diving (rescuing nifty things from other people's trash). Consider brewing alcohol. It will be years before your peer group can legally purchase the stuff but yeast and sugar/ fruit/corn/whatever are cheap and easy to get. Ferment, distill ( http:// www.moonshine-still.com ), and profit. _________________________________________________________________________________ here's something that i did last year and am starting to do it again Monday at school. the CD business is good if you dont have a lot of competitors, even if u do ill tell u what to do... i dont know how much a cd costs over there but i know its cheaper than here... so like ok... make little fliers, like 4x2 or something sayin ur sellin cd's, make it nice n interestin, no stupid shit, anyway hand it out... if your a nerd, probably no one will buy from u, try being friendly, anyway, sell the cds for about 5 bucks, if someone is already sellign them for 5 bucks, go cheaper, go 4 bucks, until that person gives up, cmon it worked for me, and even at a 2 bucks ur making almost double the profit so its good becaues the cheaper, the more cd's you will sell. anyway, yea do that and you will make a lot of money, i used to make about 100 dollars a week doing that :-D Damn i'm smart. _________________________________________________________________________________ Damn, a minor... You should do as much dirt as possible before you turn 18. Fuck morals... You're only 14 right? You have time to develope those later... Pawn your mom's jewelry... Your gramps gold watch... Dad's comic collection... Whatever... Fuck your family over... You're only 14. Rob your friends houses... When your there playing video games just take shit and get rid of it quickly... Steal watches, sunglasses, gold chains and sell them to minorities out of your backpack at the mall... Don't keep the shit in you room! Anything of value just take it... Outside of killing and raping at 14 you can almost get away with anything... If you get caught you go to Juvy.. Where you will meet all kinds of cool people who will teach you about drug dealing and turning out girls for prostitution... Get all your dirt done now before you are old enough to get sent to state penn... _________________________________________________________________________________ Jesus christ - i started making money at 12, i'm 14 now, and believe me, my parents never paid for anything i've got now, firstly, get a job, don't give me shit about being too young, don't go to big corporation things like mcdonalds or supermarkets, go to private owned small cd shops and such, ask them if they need any part time help, most likely they'll agree, and it's less hassle for you because they are private owned so they ask less details, which is what i did. Now, this won't pay alot, but hey, it's a job, then, download free porn, sell it at school, depending on the person, that's how you charge, you could sell drugs, or you can just rip people off if you can't get your hands on a constant supply of cheap drugs This is what i do - go to a russian restarant i know, ask them to give me the empty bottles of smirnoff or absalute vodka, good stuff, then i'll go buy cheap vodka (yes, i know you are underage, so am i, you either look old enough, or you get someone else to buy it), fill up the smirnoff/absalute bottles with the cheap vodka, and sell it for as much as i like to minors, because they can't buy it anyway. Or - you get oregano, pass it off as weed, and sell it to dumbasses.

If you think hard enough about it, the possabilities are endless, i make a shitload of money from various things and i've never wanted my parents help. Anyway..you just want the money for material things...I need it for food and clothes. Godamned parents keep kicking me out with nothing. _________________________________________________________________________________ For gods sake... steal what you need. It's not hard. and your a minor- they let you off easy in court. have some imagination, dont overestimate people. they are dumb and will fall for virtually anything. _________________________________________________________________________________ next time your in school and you have a free class, take out a deck of cards and ask around, you can get like 10 people playing. if you're good and can win, you can make alot of money _________________________________________________________________________________ I told you, walk around at night and look for unlocked car doors. After you have done this, open it and look around inside and take whatever you want.... _________________________________________________________________________________ Here's a really cool way of getting cash. a) Get hold of a tacky, cheap ring. b) Arrange to meet someone somewhere, probably to sell them something. c) Hang a poster up there saying 'VALUABLE FAMILY HEIRLOOM RING LOST - REWARD $500' d) Do the deal, but on the way out pretend to pcik up the ring and go "Wow, look what I found". e) When they realise what it is, they will try to buy it off you. Start off reluctant but in the end agree to sell it to them for $300 (or less depending on how much cash they have). f) Get the fuck outta there. Beleive me - IT WORKS!!!! Worked for me 4 or 5 times!!!! _________________________________________________________________________________ 1 pills sell sombody some doller stor niacin pills or somthing any thang thats white and dosent say asprin or advil iv seen pills at doller stor or niacin pills that are just pure wite and no markings next sell thim to younger kids like 13 or outher 14 yearolds as generic xanax or codine this one you can get away with ounce if you have to see the custemer agin just say thay dident take anuf sell thim like 2 for $5 next minithins yes these heve ephedrine in thim and when you take like 3 of thim you feel like your on speed thay are like $5 a bottle and if u sell thim a doller a pice tell thim its speed you can make profit only you have to be 18 to buy thim but i dont do that anymore now i sell weed for money and if i want to rip sombody off i buy a box of sweets and rool a fat joint with tobacco mix in thim and sell the sweets foe $5 now the weed i get is the best around so no one ever notices _________________________________________________________________________________ i didnt write this and i give " Bob" off undergroundforums.com credit. it sounds like a pretty good plan if someone isnt quick on their toes. __________ This is a scam i first heard of a few years ago, i tried it once and to my surprise it worked, although ive never really tried again. What you do is this: Firstly, you will need a 20 pound note (dollar bill) and a small container, possibly a match box (thats what i used anyway). You then find an unsuspecting victim and ask them if they want to make some money. The answer will most likely be yes. You then ask them if they have a 20 pound note (dollar bill). Take this along with your 20 and put it in the container. Then ask them how much is in the container. They will answer 40 pound(dollars), unless they're a bit slow. Offer to sell this to them for 30 quid(dollars). The majority of people will snap this up and hand over the 30 thinking that you must be mad to

sell 40 for 30. What they don't realsie is 20 of this money is theirs, and have handed to you an extra 10. You then leave and feel smug that you have just scammed your self a few extra quid to spend on things like loose women and beer. This scam can obviously be used to obtain different amounts of money but i think 10 is good enough. _________________________________________________________________________________ Dumpster Diving is the way to go. Here is a list of everything i have found. www.dumpsters.2ya.com i make over $100 every time i go and what i don't keep i sell _________________________________________________________________________________ Here's how I make my money: I get a catalog from BudK every once in a while (budkww.com) and order their cheapest deals. For example, a few months ago, I bought three sets of ten knives for $9.95 per set. I sold each knife in the set, individually, for $10 apiece. That's $300 dollars, and $270 of it is profit. I do shit like that all the time. Sometimes, they have katanas on sale for $20 apiece, so I buy ten of them, and resell them for 35 apiece. That's $15 profit per katana. Think of shit like this, it works. Trust me _________________________________________________________________________________ I just made $250 from watching my neighbors dogs... All the require me to do is let them out after I come home from school, then come back at 6:30 to feed them and let them out again. _________________________________________________________________________________ There are many things a teen can do for money, and if you have talent, you can make more than most adults. Here are some ideas. :Are you good with computer hardware? Start up a computer service business. Make business cards, flyers, and advertise in the newspaper that you can repair/upgrade computers. :You can also teach computer lessons to newbies. Do this only if you have excellent social skills and don't mind associating with people. I heard this can be very profitable. :Graphic Design. This is another field many teens persue. Are you good with photoshop etc..? You get the idea. :Advertise that your buying peoples junk and resell on ebay on profit. You can also go yardsailing and buy junk there to resell. If you are a good crasftman of any sort, you can also make money from selling your crafts, selling dollhouses, blankets, people even make freddy kruegar replica gloves and resell them for a good profit ($100+). Look it up on ebay if you don't believe me. Look for stores that are going out of business and have excellent deals, you can buy low, sell, high. This does require a good amount of experience to make a ton of money at though. Main requirements are, Customer service skills, and a knack for knowing the value of items you buy used. : Become a webdesigner. Do you know your web programming? If so, why not profit from it. : Start up a lawn care business. Let's face it, people are lazier than fuck here in the USA and most people will be glad to pay you for your hard, manual labor. If you have business skills, you can grow this into a large company and hire teens to do the work for you If you are a tree monkey, don't forget to eventually offer a tree service. Some tree cutters make over $50/hr. This is dangerous, hard work but pays good. House painting is also another decent paying job a teen can do. This section is for illegal ideas. Although illegal ideas can be profitable, so can legal ideas. Go car hopping, break into garages, shoplifting etc.. And resell your goods online for pure profit.

:Become a drug dealer. :Grow or process drugs. :Merchandise fraud. Buy 2 items that are mechanically built the same, but one of the items is a cheap, inferior version. I'll give you an idea by comparing a dvd recorder vs. a cheap standard cd rom. First buy the cd rom somewhere online or wherever. Now go to walmart and buy an expensive DVD Recorder that is built mechanically the same. Once you have both of these items, take both items apart and switch the insides. Now you'll have the cd rom casing with the DVD recorder inside of it. You also have the DVD recorders casing with the Cheap, cd rom's insides. I hope you get the idea. You can now take back the DVD recorder ( which is really the cd rom) and tell them it doesn't work for a refund. Make sure to break it before you return it so they can't test it only to discover it's a cheap cd, rom. You should also take any stickers off the electronic part indicating what it is. You now have a $300.00+ DVD recorder that you paid a mere $30.00 for. _________________________________________________________________________________ If you know lots of stupid fuck-up kids - like yourself, for instance - who think they're badasses, making cash is easy. Just go to Wal-Mart and buy a bottle of mint extract. Take the mint home and pour it in a 20 oz. coke bottle. Then fill it the rest of the way with flat coke, water, or whatever. Then go tell your dumbass friends it's moonshine and charge them mad prices. Reinvest in some more mint and repeat. I know this sounds silly to all you real drinkers out there, but keep in mind the market you're aiming at here. Target the stupid shits with no hookups and no other way to get messed up. They'll buy it and come back for more. _________________________________________________________________________________ This would be pretty ammusing to pull off, and if you knew the layout of the store, priceless... Alright, heres what you do. Make a magic bag (and don't go small, make one out of a backpack... Or something similar... I won't describe how to make it, you'll have to do your own homework there) A potassium nitrate smoke bomb. The big ones that produce mean ammounts of smoke. I believe it was 6 parts potassium nitrate (KNO3, buy it at Home Depot as "Grants Stump Remover) and 4 parts sugar... Make sizeable one. About a pound... Now, go to a store you know the lay out of and has almost no security. Light the bomb, get away from it. Wait til the store is pretty cloudy and pull an alarm, then navigate to place of high valued goods and grab all you can and stuff it down in that nifty magic bag... Now just run out in a panic like everyone else who thinks the place is burning down! Don't stick around for questiong! If you have a friend that can drive, take advantage of it! Whatever, it may be fantasy but its something i'd pull for fun (minus the stealing) with my friends... The stealing is just for profits. Bon Appitete _________________________________________________________________________________ These people talking shit are probly dead beet parents so dont worry..i was in this same spot when i was 13 i started stealing cars and going out to department stores like circuit city and stealing shit. but the best thing to do right now is to start a import chop shop go out and steal cars that have racing shit on them or break into payphones and coke machines with lock pics i robbed a pepsi machine at a grocery store and

got $150 one night and now is when all the idiots are fixing up cars cause of hollywood movies so sell shit and steal shit cause the conformist and society bots dont support stray sheep... those get a job people are mad cause they have to kiss there booses ass every day ha ha ha _________________________________________________________________________________ *borrow*the teachers answer key book. take it down to a copy shop and copy 10-20 lessons out of it. replace the book so that the teacher finds it and looks stupid after yelling at everybody, and sell the answer sheet pages for $3-$5. _________________________________________________________________________________ Try rolling around in dog shit in your worst clothes and walk to the nearest big city with a sign saying 1 buck or 2 two for new clothing and food since your a kid you will make good money outside the mariniers stadium you can make about 150 dollars when people are coming in and out try big events and shit like that i wouldnt try this in a small city where people know you plus seattle atracts a full statium i wouldnt try this in any other place besides yankees on a good game like againest the mariners or a play offs game where it will generally be sold out and tip on making the card board sign write side ways not up and down like you would at school people dont want to read the papper the long way write it like this

__________________________________________________________________________________________ _ +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++ D. Not really a bad idea, not really a scam, but... [Best Buy Discount idea] +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++ __________________________________________________________________________________________ _ Posted by: This still seems like the best place to post it, since it's sort of a legal scam. Go to best buy. They'll have tons of these gamer gift cards, basically gift cards on grey and green cardboard inside a CD case. Each one comes with a $5 coupon on any video game or accessory $19.99 and up, so basically you can get $5 off any game you want. Not a big deal with some of the things, but for example with the Platinum Hits and whatever they call the PS2 analog of that, that's a 25% saving on an awesome game. This still seems like the best place to post it, since it's sort of a legal scam. Go to best buy. They'll have tons of these gamer gift cards, basically gift cards on grey and green cardboard inside a CD case. Each one comes with a $5 coupon on any video game or accessory $19.99 and up, so basically you can get $5 off any game you want. Not a big deal with some of the things, but for example with the Platinum Hits and whatever they call the PS2 analog of that, that's a 25% saving on an awesome game.

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Well, I suppose there's nothing stopping you from just taking the coupon, but it's a totally pointless risk... Say you're getting a $20 game. Go up and put $10 on the gift card, then take the card and but the game with the coupon, and pay the remaining balance. _________________________________________________________________________________ another thing u can do in best buy is. buy an item any item it really doesnt matter.open it come back 5 minutes later and return it you will get all your money back.Come back the next day and it will be back on the shelf with a 25% open item discount. And you know its not fucked up couse you were the one who opened it thats a good way to get a 25% discount without using a copoun or any gift card. I always do that at best buy and its realy hard to get cought.i dont know if this works any wer else.

__________________________________________________________________________________________ _ +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++ E. How I Got $100 From Gamestop +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++ __________________________________________________________________________________________ _ Posted by: MSW2006 Okay, this is my best scam. Well, you see, my local Gamestop doesn't force me into taking that store credit bullshit, and they don't even bother testing out games before they buy them from customers. So, I got an idea about a month ago, and tested it out. What I did was go to a second cheap used game store, and I bought five used SNES cartridges for less than five dollars apiece. Then, I printed out the labels for the cartridges of expensive SNES RPGs, and threw them on over the cheap ass SNES games from the other store. Namely, Chrono Trigger, Final Fantasy 3, Final Fantasy 2, Secret of Mana, Earthbound, and Lufa And The Fortress of Doom. Each one sells for $40 at my local store, and they give you half the amount they sell it for. One hundred bucks total, $89 profit. Wow me. *bows* _________________________________________________________________________________ Replies: quote: __________ what kind of printer, paper, ink, labels did you use to print the labels? it seems like it would pretty difficult on just standard equipment __________

I have mostly standard equipment, but a laserjet printed that prints at a high DPI (dots per inch). Hewlett Packer printer (model number not shown). Paper? A thin sticky paper from Staples. Look for it in the printer section. _________________________________________________________________________________ quote: __________ I just thought of a better idea. I heard that you can actually buy blank cartriges and copy the games with this thing you hookup to your computer. If you did this then printed a realistic label for the game, it would be foolproof and profitable. __________ You can, but the equipment cost to do this would be too high for the scam to be worthwhile. Anyway, I certainly wish that MSW2006 would post his scans. Doing so is almost totally legal, and even if it isnt legal, no one really gives a shit. I would suggest that you host them on a free server such as Netfirms or similar. As for printing, you can buy sticker paper at Staples and other office supply stores. You would need some cutting skills to get the damn thing right though, unless you can buy them preforated with the same size as the label themselves. You can use any high quality printer, I suggest the Epson C82, which can also be used for printing novelty identification cards. _________________________________________________________________________________ Alright, I'll work on it. I'll try and do it later tonight, however, I'm grouunded from the computer, but I'll do it as soon as I can. The main purpose of the $100 was to be able to fix my computer, which went under recently. Oh, and my newer scam: those fucking DVD offers. I was flipping through Electronic Gaming last month, and fouund an offer of 5 DVDs for 49 cents each, with shipping for 1.99 per DVD. So I payed for it with a money order, because it had one of those buy later at a higher price things, and I used a fake name anda number. Had them delivered to an abandoned house, sold them to the local DVD store, and made 39 bucks profit.

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Also, I've heard that putting nylon under the quarters works as well because the nylon won't let it drop. _________________________________________________________________________________ washers will work, as manual coin changers only detect size, not composition. dont use too many though, or else when they empty the coin box they will get a box full of washers. if they are already onto you for doing the straw thing, chances are they will assume it is you doing the washers too...

__________________________________________________________________________________________ _ +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++ G. my attempt at a scam... could use tips [Fake return scam idea] +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++ __________________________________________________________________________________________ _ Posted by: flipz so last month i placed an order for a flat panel monitor from a major company (no names). the day it was supposed to ship i got an email saying it wouldn't be shipped for a month. so i called that day, cancelled that order and ordered a different one. the next week the new order came, and about a week later the old order (that was supposedly cancelled) also showed up. and yes i was charged for it. so i called them that day and had them arrange for it to be picked up and returned. i left it with the people at the front desk in my dorm. well it's a month later now, and i just found out the box was still sitting down there!! either airborne never came, or when they did no one saw the box to give them. so anyways i still have this monitor, and just got a bill from the company and it's still on my account. so im gonna call and tell them i sent it back and why is it still on my bill. any comments / suggestions / tips? im kinda handle it like the scam where you call a food place and complain that it wasn't good and they give you free food. ill stay cool headed and just act like im pointing out a mistake that it wasn't taken off the bill. lets hope it works. -flipz side note: it isn't some small company, it is a big one. the monitor would go through lots of hands before it got to the account people, it could easily disappear. lets hope they think so too _________________________________________________________________________________ Replies: If you complain ENOUGH, it can be credited back to your account. However, this is not very likely, and will be very difficult indeed. Then again, you might just get lucky and get the careless customer service rep that will just think there is a computer error and credit your account. There really isnt any technique to this besides from acting like it really happened and telling a great lie. The rest of it is just plain ole luck. _________________________________________________________________________________

If you used a major credit card. Contact the credit card company and see what they can do for you. I called the cc company about almost the same thing(dvd drive instead of monitor) happen. The cc company then requested the info from the company. They usually give the company 10-30 days to provide proof that i actually still had the product. The company never responded so the cc company never paid the company and credited my account. I had two dvd drives, one in my computer and the other still freshly boxed up in my brothers house. _________________________________________________________________________________ If u bitch and complain enough, they will prob. believe u. Just act genuinly outraged and say stuff about how ull never shop there again ( and u probably shoudnt!)

__________________________________________________________________________________________ _ +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++ H. Shoplifting +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++ __________________________________________________________________________________________ _ Posted by: MSW2006 I was looking through the archive, but the old set of messages (6-7 pages) was deleted, so I decided to start up another thread. Tips, tricks, places to shoplift, etc? _________________________________________________________________________________ Replies: A place to shoplift would be a store. Some tips: don't look obvious. Try to act cool calm and collected. Make sure no one is looking or there are no mirrors or survalince cameras. Also invest in making a magic bag. It will help. _________________________________________________________________________________ What i do is when a store only has one persomn working, grab a choc bar, and then buy it. When shes ringing it in stand close the the counter and grab stuff off it and shuv it in ur pockets. Now walk out after u pay for the bar. Happy trails _________________________________________________________________________________ Just plan out every possible situation. Make one of those magic bag thingies carefully. Don't run until you are caught. Act like you're not doing anything wrong; like you're just another regular shopper. _________________________________________________________________________________ And, undercover patrols...In Wal Mart, are usually the ones clad with the cell phones...listen to their conversations, and you'll see what i mean. _________________________________________________________________________________ 1. Realize that young folks tend to be watched more closely than older shoppers--this is grossly unfair, but that's the way it is. 2. Dress well,or at least as expensively as you can. In other words, look like someone who does not have to steal.

3. Keep your score under $100-that can make the difference between being charged with a felony or a misdemeanor if you get busted. 4. Store security has no legal right to detain you. And if they touch you at all, in any way, they have committed assault. 5. Eschew magic bags, just ditch the dingers. _________________________________________________________________________________ steal from somewhere your friends work. they can help you get out without being caught or if they are on duty at that time they can turn the other way during your "shopping." Or if you want to hit up another shop you can use them to test your magic bag. FRIENDS help a lot when doing anything bad. _________________________________________________________________________________ If one of your trusted friends works as a cashier at a retail store, there is an easy way to steal. :You can either buy a few cheap items and mix in a good item or 2 then checkout at the register where your friend is working. The cashier then pretends that he scanned the item but really doesn't. :If there are cameras all over the place, just have a 3rd friend switch the barcode label on the merchandise you want to steal. The best thing to switch it with is a very similar item but a cheaper, inferior version. Come in the store later and buy it. Check out at the resister where your friend is working. You could even pull this off with a cashier you don't know. If you have trouble finding sticker barcodes, you can make them with a scanner, printer, and blank barcode labels. This could become a huge money making scam. _________________________________________________________________________________ magic bags are stupid. just take the magnetic strips off in the store. and about security cameras, if your in a store with those bubbles on the ceiling, remember that most of those dont even have a camera inside. their just a deterant. plus, you can always stand directly below one and stuff whatever into your pants. they cant look straight down. and rob ppl at lunchtime when the security guys are eating or on break. i steal at least on average 50 bucks of merchandise a day. if u get real good, you can make a busness outta it. take your time and stay cool. _________________________________________________________________________________ quote: __________ I got to thinking, when I am in Barnes and Noble and am looking through a book, I sometimes come across those squares that have a border that I am guessing is magnetic and a centimeter down there is another one and so on to the middle of the square. Theoretically speaking, could i walk out of the store with the book if i take that out? Anyways.. __________ If you're talking about what I think you are, then yes. Just to clarify, the strips are usually these light colored stickers that are probably made of plastic. They're usually in rectangle shapes. Basically, just peel off anything that's a sticker and you're set. quote: __________ I think that shoplifting sounds like an easy and fun way to get free shit, but I just don't got the balls to do it. Every1, what was it like ur first time shoplifting? __________ Good god, I was freakin nervous. The first time I stole was from Electronics Boutique or whatever. I had spotted two games I wanted, so after a long moral debate with myself, I decided to steal them. I held both games in my left hand below my waist. Now, I was fairly sure that there were no sensors at the door, but when you're really nervous, you begin to panic and over-analyze stuff. You begin to think, what if there ARE sensors? What's going to happen to me? But after a long time (I think maybe 30 minutes) I simply walked out of the

store when the guys weren't looking. I then directed myself to the nearted mall restroom and discarded of the boxes and hid the games in my pants. Afterwards, it just became more natural to me. I then began making a good 50 bucks a week by reselling the merchandise more than half off to all my friends a week. Then later, up to a couple hundred. I have since stopped stealing on a regular basis simply I'm trying to cleanse myself of sins. I know it sounds ridiculous, but I don't exactly want to have all these memories of childhood theft when I'm older. Why? I honestly don't know. _________________________________________________________________________________ Well the one I go to doesn't. It really depends on where you go. I think one of the easiest ways to know is to have someone that looks like they're in middle school come into a mall or something holding a pencil and a clipboard, and then having them walk from store to store asking about store security and how it's for a "school project" about the changes in security after 9-11 or some shit like that. I find that many of the stores at the mall I frequent have sensors and cameras that are just decoys to scare people. You never really know until you ask... _________________________________________________________________________________ Well just got for it. Your first time go to a little shop and steal some chocolate and do that a few times just to get your confidence up. Soon you will know what to look for and will get good at finding ways of concealing or lifting goods. I have to say what works best with me is NOT going out with a plan. I seize an opportunity if there is one because if you go with a plan and for some reason it aint gonna work then chances are you will do something stupid just to make up for it cos you really want to steal and stupid=caught. _________________________________________________________________________________ Well, I went up to Media Play today...incase you have any in your area. Anyways, I have a friend who works there, and we got to talking, so I casually asked her about some of the security going on there. First of all, the books usually don't set off the alarms, and even if they do, it's hard for them to prove (esp with a backpack) that you didn't walk in with them. Also, they put security tags (magnetic) inside boxes, and sometimes, leave boxes empty, randomly, on purposes, just to bust attempting shoplifters. Use a fucking magic bag if you can't get the shit open. I think that's all I've learned, but that's covering a little bit of Media Play's security for you. Oh yeah, Dollar General...they have non- uniformed assholes who will follow you around the entire time, so be careful if you intend to shoplift there - and, if I'm not mistaken, they have no sensors. I also checked out Gamestop. No censors, but there is a security camera or two, usually just pointing at the cash register. Also, the store is usually worked by one or two people max. Just find a blind spot, and pocket what you want. Don't bother taking the CD cases, the fuckers are empty. Just take the cartridge games, and walk out of there. Watch out for store employees watching you; they're careful-eyed, but usually are too busy and young to watch you the whole time you're there. I think that's all I've learned today. Have fun kiddies. _________________________________________________________________________________ Well, it is now my goal to write an all inclusive shoplifting guide for totse, I'm talking a MONSTER ass file covering EVERYTHING. Well, I started typing, I expect the following to be about 1/10 of the total product: Well, having been a TOTSE member for quite a while now, I figured that it's time I post a guide on one of my favorite criminal topics: SHOPLIFTING. Anything and everything in this information guide is provided for information; whatever the hell you do with this information is of your own responsibility. If you get caught, it's your own fucking fault. Maybe, if you following this guide, you won't get caught. First and foremost, dress up nicely before you go out. I'm not telling you to go out and buy a full business suit or a tuxedo - just dress like somebody who would not have to steal. The second most important thing is a razor blade, scalpel, or Exacto knife. Any one of these things is a shoplifter's best friend. Use them to remove the covers of books if you can't get off the magnetic theft tag. Use it to cut off magnetic theft tags, or, any tag for that matter.

Another important thing to do is to build a secret pocket of some kind. I have one that's five by five inches, sewn into the lower leg part of a pair of jeans I have, on the inside. If you do the same, you'll find it's very handy for holding CD cases or CDs themselves, among other things. Which brings me to more BS about clothing. Don't wear coats, heavy jackets, or long-sleeved stuff (obviously) in the winter. It makes you look very suspicious. Baggy pants are okay, but I've noticed that the gothic kids and kids that wear all black get followed around a LOT more often than the jet-set does. So, follow point one, and wear something nice. A pair of baggy khakis and a nice T-Shirt will do. Moving on...Watch out for undercover security patrols. In Wal-Mart, you can find these people rather easily, simply by looking for people that are nearly always around you in the store, and carry a cell phone. I don't have anyything against people with cell phones, I just find it funnyy that they are always the ones who are following me around. However, if you plan on stealing clothes, these guys are easy to take care of. Just get a heavy pile of clothes off of the racks, and take them into the dressing room. Use your razor/scalpel/exacto knife to cut off any tags (make sure you get all of them!) and wear the stolen clothes under the ones you took in. Stick the tagsin the pockets of a pair of pants, and, with your new clothes, walk out. If you carefully removed every tag, you'll have made a smooth getaway. Sometimes, though, we might want to seem like a "good" shoplifter by buying something from the store anyways. Plus, if you buy something like a CD or DVD, which usually has tags hidden inside, you'll have a good excuse if the alarm does go off. Caveat emptor! As we cruise along, I'd like to point out a few good places to shoplift, and a few bad ones. Good Places to Shoplift: 1.) Dollar General - Usually medium to large sized stores, these stores are understaffed with few employees, and fewer cameras, usually aimed at registers and employee exits. No alarms whatsoever, and most of the things sold in the store are small, pocketable items. 2.) Media Play - Usually medium to large sized stores, with less than a dozen employees, half who work the registers, one or two who stock the shelves, and two specialty people for both the CD section and book section. While there are cameras, alot of them are fake; also, they are not monitored in real time. The barcodes do not set off the alarms at the doors, on books or magazines. Also, many, many computer games can be taken out of their cardboard boxes with a simple razor. Easy pickings. 3.) Gamestop Any extra tips and stuff will be mentioned in the article. Confuzious, where the hell are you? You'd probably be one of the best contributors to such an article. _________________________________________________________________________________ Here are a couple shoplifting ebooks worth reading for any budding shoplifter [21 Ways to Spot a Shoplifter!] http://www.winsite.com/bin/ Info?5000000036987 [How To Beat Shoplifting and Increase Profits] http://www.in-the-e- zone.com/e-book-zone/freebooks3.htm (about half way down the page) _________________________________________________________________________________ RULE #1: APPEARANCE.

If you walk into a store looking POOR or like a CRIMINAL, the employees will automatically keep an extra eye on you. DRESS CLEAN, CUT, & CRISP. RULE #2: ATTITUDE. It's all about acting like you own it. That what you doing is no big deal. DO NOT look around and shove something in your pocket or go to a back corner...STUPID! ALSO, IF THE STORE USES SECURITY TAGS, ALMOST ALWAYS THE CAMERAS ARE FAKE EXCEPT NEAR THE CASH REGISTER BUT IN THAT CASE A VIDEO TAPE ID BEING RECORED NOT BEING WATCHED. Also, low end stored such as; Big Lots, Ross, Marshalls, TJ Maxx watch more carefully and are more difficult because they expect it. EX: A local store in my area(keeping its name anonymous) is fairly large & has a constant flow of people. I've stolen longboard skateboards, carve boards, suitcases, bookbags, etc. It's all about attitude. First, I go behind and empty register and get an expty store bag & act as if I need it for a jacket im holding just anything you wouldn't want to carry. Then I walk around, find something I want (like a skateboard at this particular store) I pick it up, look at it for awhile, act as if I'm contemplating on wether to buy it or not, then walk around the store with it under my arm, then I sit down for awhile in sight of my planned exit (wait anywhere from 5 to 15 mins) At this time I descretely watch the exit, employees, & then the customers. When the register gets buisy, you just walk out w/it right under your arm! Don't worry if other customers see you, if you have a confident, happy, relaxed attitude, they'll believe you won it too! BUT always have a back-up responce incase questioned; such as "Excuse me, but my brother just paid for this" that way you don't need to show a receipt. *The more practice, the more natural & easy it will come to you. I didn't mention skills as in how slick you are beacuse thats a given. Everyones got their own style as long as its not obvious! Remember it's all about how you present yourself & the "you own it, it's mine" attitude! Hope this was helpful! Good Luck! _________________________________________________________________________________ Heres a good way to shoplift... what you need: a long pair of pants a half set of balls Ok walk in and go to the PC games section(not the playstation games that are behind glass) but the PC games on the shelf.pick out the one you want and read the back for a while.With a satisfied look walk to the Fabricks part where they sell rugs,and crap.I guarantee there will be 3 or more isles with no camaras, set he game on the shelf behind a rug or something and start to peel off the sticker on the top of the PC game. (important) if anyone comes by put the game behind something thats already there and act like u are messing with the rug. after they leave peel off the sticker,take the gamecase out and lift up the cd's and chek if theres a barcode in the game. if there is thanjust take the CD's and not the case(the CD's will fit in most pockets) if there is NOT a barcode than place the disk with its cover on it in your pants(you know where the very top end of your pants is?) I found this to be the best part where the game isint sticking out.walk out and enjoy your game or resell it. Usually look for the newer games that ppl drool for so you can get $$$$$$ IF YOU GET CAUGHT In my earlier days I was caught 2 times and both those times i got away because of...Tears.. i balled in the managers office and told him my friends were peer pressuring me into stealing in order to be one of there friends.(damn that worked good) and they let me off free, but told me never ot come in the store again. but i did lol. good luck _________________________________________________________________________________ quote: __________ Ohh yeah, and its not stealing until you leave the store. So don't sweat it when you are in the store. __________

Wrong! As soon as you conceal an item, it is considered shoplifting (at least in america), and you can be stopped and arrested before you even have a chance to step out the store. On a lighter note, shoplifting isn't all that hard as long as you think it through. Cameras aren't the threat you people make them out to be, since either way they are being monitored with human eyes. Humans, unlike the electronic recording devices they trust their stores with, can not monitor all areas of the store at one time, and if you don't stand out, you can successfully conceal an item right in front of a camera. Here are some of my personal tips for shoplifting... - Make long trips around the storee. Do not go directly for a single item, stash it, and walk out of the store. Walk around for a little bit. Shop around. Just look like a normal customer. - Do not steal from a single storee more than once in a given time. If you go to a store, and say, steal a CD, wait it out for a week or two before walking in to steal again. Many security guards look for these patterns, since many habitual theives can not resist hitting their favorite target again and again. - Undercover security guards are aa threat, and most large chain stores nowadays have them (I should know, that's how I got caught in Wal-mart, but that gave me the chance to learn from my mistakes ). If you see any individual who seems to be giving any attention at all to you stash the item in one of the shelves and walk out. - If you are caught, do not run unnless you have an escape plan ready. Many large chain stores have security guards on hand with vehicles, ready to chase down anyone who tries to make a run for it. If you don't have an escape vehicle waiting outside, or a very good thought-out escape route, then simply comply with the guards, and accept the consequences. _________________________________________________________________________________ Here's a good way to steal computer games... go with 2 or 3 friends... pick out the game you want... now have one of your friends start playng one or those try me out type game sytems... you and your friends croud around him and make it look like you are watching and interested... now you have a nice little human shield around you, so start takin off the dinger... if its a computer game or cd then u can just take off the plastic rapper- its easier... pocket it, walk out the door... enjoy your new game... ive done this a few times it works nicely

__________________________________________________________________________________________ _ +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++ I. Stealing dvds from library +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++ __________________________________________________________________________________________ _ Posted by: i dont have one hey ppls. today i just went to my local libary to discover they had the box set of band of brothers on dvd.

i was wondering if i should steal it next time i go in? (my libary has no sensors cameras) or should i just keep it and rip off all the libary stickers etc.. on it? and never return it. the stickers are easy to take off. And can metholated spirits take off permenant marker? thanks peace out _________________________________________________________________________________ Replies: Check out a DVD and see what the librarian does with it, does she swipe it over any flat looking pad? Anything else besides bar code scanning? And speaking of barcode scamming, you might want to photocopy the barcode off another DVD and paste unto the one you want (over its original barcode), check it out, and when the late return letter comes, go to the library and point out that you already returned the DVD, proceeding to show that it is on the shelf... Of course this depends on how careful the librarian is when she checks out your material (if she pays attention to the title, etc..) _________________________________________________________________________________ Yeh they dont have a swiping pad, they just scan the barcode thats it. they dont really pay any attention to it. i already have hired it out. so when i return it ill just rip off the barcode sticker @ the libary becuase there all retarts anyway + they prowl around. ill return it and they take it. thanks for ur help ill tell u when the deed is done. another note- does metholated spirits take off permenant maker? the other stickers etc can be taken off with a knife no problems. The whole marker thing is coz its got the libary name (concord libary) written on the top part of the discs and the clear plastic part of the box. peace out thanks _________________________________________________________________________________ for cleaning off permanent marker PLEASE just use metholated spyrits. most everything else will melf most plastics.

__________________________________________________________________________________________ _ +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++ J. walmart return scam - weekend thoughts +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++ __________________________________________________________________________________________ _ Posted by: flipz

ok this weekend was my fiance's bday, and her sister bought her the 8 mile dvd for her bday. however it was the censored one, and she wanted uncensored. so we went store to store looking for it. the first thing that came to my mind was that when we walked into walmart, the guy put a sticker on it. now this sticker can easily be taken off, and put on something else. and then you walk out the store with that item, if questioned say they didn't have the item you wanted to exchange it for so you are keeping it for now. also all it was is a slap gun w/ pink tape and the date. wouldn't be too hard to buy that and make your own return stickers. the other was target. we walked in like 30 mins before closing and the place was busy, but deserted of employees. she stood by the place to return items (there was no one there, just a button saying "push for assistance") while i walked to the back and got the dvd she wanted. they had it so i walked back up and when i got there she pushed the button. so we are holding what appear to be 2 brand new dvd's in our hands, because both are sealed. however he allowed us to exchange the regular 8 mile for the uncensored 8 mile, w/o any problem. he was actually really nice to us. so how much harder would it be to just walk back, grab both, and then go "exchange" one. (kind of a twist on the return scam, but works best with 2 people. especially if the one doing the returning is a young female such as my fiance. ) so most likely these have been posted before, sorry if it's a repeat. just thoughts that came to my mind. ohh btw, just to add to it a little bit, she had the dvd in a small gift bag. so if you walk in walmart, quickly pull out what you have in the bag, he slap guns in and you put it back in the bag. make sure and take something about the same size, and put that in the bag. that way maybe just incase they question the guy who puts the stickers on stuff, he'd remember you because the bag, and it fit in that bag. *shrug* any comments, tips? _________________________________________________________________________________ Replies: A couple things: If you take the tag off and put it on something else you have two things to worry about: cameras/plainclothed security officers and what to do with the original item (the one from which you peeled the return sticker off). Making your own tags will of course be easier, but once again be careful when affixing the tag on your chosen item. Same rule of thumb for the second idea, make sure nothing/no one is watching. _________________________________________________________________________________ As far as the scam goes, you would need to follow the basic rules of "barcoding" which is the replacement of barcodes between two items one, which is an expensive model, and the other which is a cheaper model. Also, an interesting thing that I did was that about a few weeks ago, me and a few friends of mine decided to be adventurous and simply take an item off the shelf, walk back to the door, and say "sorry i brought this in for return and forgot to tell you. Mind if you sticker it for me?" Anyway, it worked, quite risky and stupid if you ask me, but it worked. Finnally, the barcoding tutorial can be found here. Many guidlines in that tutorial can be applied to this one. Barcode Tutorial: http://www.shadowcrew.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=12248 _________________________________________________________________________________ quote: __________ For Office Max, yes, but for some place like Walmart, then it has a way larger chance of working. Most items in Office Max are bought frequently, and only a few cashiers work there. However, at some place like Walmart, most cashiers have never even rang up a 1000 dollar DVD recorder in their life. __________

good call. also something to others considering this. i talked to my friend who works for walmart and he actually said this would work. another thing he recommended to try (if you are doing the sticker method) is to test the barcode on one of those price checkers in the store. don't want to go up to the register and it either doesn't scan (cheap printer/barcode font) or the UPC just doesn't exist in the stores computer

__________________________________________________________________________________________ _ +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++ K. my new scam idea [Price Match Scam] +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++ __________________________________________________________________________________________ _ Posted by: jackallen im in the process of working our all the details for one of my latest scams. heres the basics... make friends with someone who works at a computer store, or make an online store that "sells" computers. essentially though, all you need is a friend. go to staples or officemax (a store that will match prices) and explain to them that you saw, lets say, a digital camera at a local computer store for $75 (they hare having a half off sale). staples sells this camera for $150. They will call and verify, so give them the number to your friend. have him near the phone and instruct him to explain that they are indeed in stock. (as I said above, its good if you can do this with someone who works at a computer store since it will decrease suspicions since the staples employee will probably know about the store. another good way to pull this off by yourself is to make a website. if you print out the URL with the item description and price, they will match it. sometimes they go online and check for themselves, but typically they just check the printout. anyways, you get the $150 camera for $75. go back a week later and exchange it for $150 in credit, or sell on ebay for $130 cash. as I said, I'm still working out some details, but this is the essential process. feedback? ideas? comments? suggestions? _________________________________________________________________________________ Replies: good scam. ive done it myself many times and for my friends. i used to work at office max so here are some details for us: -will price match website after coost of shipping (they say after cost of next day shipping, but never seen a cashier stick to that. but if they are new, they might have to ask a manager. so just make sure that "next day" shipping shows on the print out of the site, and make it cheap. -we never verify anything. if you have a receipt, we'll change the price

other than that... it's a real simple scam to do. even if you want to do it the more "legal" way (you want something NOW and it's real cheap online), find a cheap real website on www.newegg.com or www.pricewatch.com or something like that, find an item for real cheap, print up the receipt, and go to the store and buy it for the price they have. it's technically not a scam because thats how price matching works, but it's a way to get stuff for cheap from a store. edit: ohh, and before i got into talking about doing it the legal way, i was talking about if you make a fake receipt. easiest way to do it is go to a real site that everyone knows (half.com or something like that) go to the last step of the order process, copy the whole page, past it into word (a newer version that support html). put a header as the title of the website, a footer as the url of the order processing page, and just change the price. voila _________________________________________________________________________________ This scam might be a winner but i'd stick with making websites for pricematching or simply changing receipt printouts after slightly modifying the price and shipping cost. There seems to be a few too many flaws with having a real friend store employee helping you out. First you need to wonder if he will always be the one answering all of the phone calls which is rarely the case with large department stores. Second, if he doesn't answer and someone else does, the price won't match..obviously. And he would also risk losing his job. Screw getting store credit. I would think the store credit would be for the lower price anyways. You'd be best going after "in demand" items that sell good on ebay so you can use ebay to profit. hmm, I read an article a couple of years ago about this gang of scammers who did something similar. They didn't even make up fake websites or receipts. They just had a friend waiting to answer the phone. They supposedly succeeded in buying 1k computers for half the price one after another. I think I might try doing this sometime in the near future. What could happen if the store found out you were using bogus ads to pricematch? Could you get into legal trouble?

__________________________________________________________________________________________ _ +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++ L. School Locker Rooms +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++ __________________________________________________________________________________________ _ Posted by: UrbanSniper This "scam" is extreamly easy. After school, when all the preps are in sports, go into the school locker rooms and rob the shit out of them. I mean serioucly. People leave shit unlocked in there all the time. Just walk in, look around for unlocked lockers with shit in them, then rob the wallet, cd player, cds, anything you want. then simpily walk away. No camaras in the locker room or anything.. Just dont let anyone see you. I do this all the time, and will walk out with at least 100 bucks or more a day! I live in a smaller city, people in bigger schools could potentialy get much more! I dono, give it a try, but if you get caught, your looking at theft charges. _________________________________________________________________________________ Replies:

one time durning gym there was another high school class ahead of us so all of there stuff was in the room. me and my buddy took: -$25 from a walet -4 subway cards ( all stamped =) )) -whole bunch of korean money (lotss of asians in our school ) it turned out to be worth $2 -a pack of smokes -a pipe with lots of res and bud iin it. -lots of bus passes -clear eyes and visine (from thosee stonners) just be careful when your doin tho. if i caught anyone stealin my shit i would litteraly beat them down. _________________________________________________________________________________ This works, and if you are caught you can always put up a fight and cry like a poor little victim to the teacher since its a big jock attempting to beat your ass down. However, you better be careful since if I caught anyone stealing my stuff, I wont be too happy. Always ask, does the ends justify the means? (yes it does...usuall _________________________________________________________________________________ A better way to brake into peoples lockers is to pick there combination lock! It is very simple just with very little practice. First find or get a Bobby pin some how(or a hairpin what have u) then file down the side that is straight. Remember to file down both sides to make the pin thinner. Don't file to much or it won't be sturdy enough to work. Once this is done go into the locker room while everyone is playin sports and find a lock that has a big enough opening on it to fit ur pick. Now the opening u are looking for is the side where the lock opens. so once u have found a lock u can put the pick in stick it in. This will push down the little lever that keeps the lock locked. Now most master lock are really hard to open if u get the pick in. But not every one has a master lock. now if u dont belive this will work buy a really really cheap lock and practice on it till u really get the hang of it. You can also just open a lock u have around the house and examen the little lever i told u about. Try pushing it down and see how to push it down. then when it is closed and u push it down with the pick it will open. Sorry if i din't explain very good but practice and get beer money! please comment if u have any better ideas!!!

__________________________________________________________________________________________ _ +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++ M. Card Games [Duplicating trading cards scam] +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++ __________________________________________________________________________________________ _ Posted by: NPerez I was thinking..there are really high selling cards for Magic and Pokemon and all those stupid nerd games, so couldn't you get an image of them online and print them out on similar paper to the real cards, then sell them? They're a lot easier to copy than credit cards and shit cause its just a game, and some cards sell for like $200.. _________________________________________________________________________________ Replies:

As usual, best way to see if something works is to go for it. Use a quality laser color printer (at a school, etc...), and depending on to whom you plan on selling the guards (card store, professional player, clueless newbie, etc..)you may want to stick to medium value cards so as not to raise suspicion. Post what type of paper you used/where you bought it (take a trip to your local office supplies or art store), and post some sites that have images of cards. For example, a brief search on Google turned up: http://getdetails.com/pokemon/page1.html http://www.josephspiros.com/magic/gallery.php You may also want to look on ebay... _________________________________________________________________________________ A couple sites that may sell paper suitable for printing out your 'novelty' cards: http://www.enteractive.com/Item.asp?item_id=28&refer= http://shop.store.yahoo.com/craftschannel/0819cmg05.html Who knows, these may be the perfect items to use to send to your new drop ( http://www.totse.com/bbs/Forum7/HTML/003246.html ) _________________________________________________________________________________ Yes there are holograms on those cards, although not too large. On the bottom left corner of Pokemon cards there is a shiny little box that is the holo. This is on every card. Also, for this to be worth the effort, you must make those shiny holographic cards. These things look a hell lot harder than those simple ID holos that can be made with a mix of peralex and an alps. Also, on the topic of this, have you considered making Yu-Gi-Oh cards? This game is by far the most popular trading card game in my area, and the kids are more than willing to buy rare cards of Yu-Gi-Oh. However, as with the previous type of cards, these are holographic too. _________________________________________________________________________________ True, the holos are hard as hell to copy.. I'm trying to find something low-risk that a lot of money can come out of. Making ids & credit cards will put me in jail but nobody will give a fuck about a stupid pokemon card. Just thinking.. rare old baseball cards do not have holos, so couldn't u copy those?? they're worth a TON of money too...

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+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++ __________________________________________________________________________________________ _ Posted by: 655321 i got some freeware game a while ago. You were a gangster rising in the ranks, and 1 thing you could do was steal crates from the train tracks (??? dunno why) now im sure this isnt something a real gangster would do, but are crates worth a decent amount of money if you get a lot or something? _________________________________________________________________________________ Replies: along the lines of milk crates... a local store I live near sells bottle water out of those plastic crates (4 gallons per crate). They cost 50 cents a gallon and there is no tax. If you buy 4 gallons, you you just run them all through the checkout in the crate, thus getting the crate out of the store. These crates have a $5 desposit on them, so you bring them back to the dairy place and make $3. Not too much money, but good for doing nothing... _________________________________________________________________________________ You will probably not get too much for the crates, try selling them on ebay, post garage sale type signs up offering crates for sale, possibly approach a few businesses which may need crates, etc...etc.. Also check out http://andex.net/links/woodencrates.html and do a search on ebay for 'crates.' Have fun with your crate selling venture . _________________________________________________________________________________ In Washington State, if you get caught with a milk crate it's a $500.00 fine. Sheesh, for a stinking milk crate! My buddy takes 'em anyway! Cheap storage containers! Until he gets busted! LOL _________________________________________________________________________________ yeah on the side of most of them it says misuse will be prosecuted to the extent of the law or something like that. it's even worse if you have a postal worker crate. they say it's punishable by some extreme fine and/or a year in prison. now that's rough.

__________________________________________________________________________________________ _ +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++ O. Regarding the Short Change Scam... +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++ __________________________________________________________________________________________ _ Posted by: dDIzzIEe

quote: __________ The short change scam is an amazing swindle and it is the perfect exemple to show how and in which conditions a Con Artist would work. The Con Artist may look to be very respectfull, nice looking guy, like someone we can trust and he may act with a great confidence of himself after many rehearsals. This swindle usually takes place in a big supermarket where cashiers usually act mechanically. The Con Artist, with a $20 bill, buys a 98 cents item. When he pays, he is given back 2 cents, 9 bills of $1 and an other $10 bill. By leaving the store, the Con Artist comes back and kindly asks if it is possible to change all these $1 bills to a 10. If the cashier says yes, he takes a $10 and gives back 9 bills of $1, he has now 2 bills of $10... the swindle hasn't started yet. Joking, he says to the caisher to check and when she sees that one bill is missing, the swindle starts. Taking advantage of the confusion created by the noisy atmosphere of a supermarket and by other customers arriving, the Con Artist apologises and says the situation is ridiculous. As she already has $9 in her hand, he asks her if she would give him back the $20 bill, if he gives her one bill of $1 plus an other $10 bill, one of the 2 he has in nis hand, to make $20...This is called the short change swindle because as the cashier thinks the transaction is fair, she actually lost $10... With a $50 at the beginning, the cashier would have been short $20, if she had been given $100, she would have been short $40...This swindle is a classic and one of the oldest scam around. And it is important to remember that this swindle can be on either side of the counter, it can also be the cashier short changing the customer... (From "The Art of the Steal" by FW Abagnale, edited by Broadway books). __________ Would be nice if members could post their techniques/ experiences, and possibly planned dialogue scripts to use? _________________________________________________________________________________ Replies: Ok this scam is called Twining. I was shown this by a guy in his 40s and we WERE making around $500 for just over half a days work everyday. We done this for months together and never come remotely close to being caught. We pulled off the scam slightly different to what you listed. What we done. You go in to a store and discretly watch HOW the cashier hands a customer the change. Some count it in to your hand, other just dump the money in your hand without counting it. This is the person you wish to "hit". Also the busier the shop is and the more tasks the cashier performs, ie making sandwiches etc, the easier the scam is. Buy an item under $5 and pay for it with a $50 note. The cashier will give you coins, a $5 and 2 $20 notes. Turn to walk away and slip a $20 up your sleeve, then turn back and say, excuse me but i think you have given me the wrong change, i gave you a $50. Show the cashier the money in your hand, 9 times out of ten she will say oh sorry it's been a long day and give you another $20 from the till. Just dress well, be confident and practice slipping the $20 up your sleeve in a flash. The guy who taught me to do this was that good at the sleight of hand that I had a hard time seeing him do it and i knew what he was about to do.

I'm seriously not joking when i say we were making between 2- 3k per week doing this in the city. Not to mention the bags full of under $5 items. About the closest we came to being caught was when the cashier called the manager up, then we proceded to look under the counter, displays etc "incase" it was dropped. He told us to come back after 5pm when the till was balanced. We did and he said "look the till was out $9 something so i dont know what happened so here is your $20 and sorry for the inconvienence." Just practice the sleight of hand and pick your target. _________________________________________________________________________________ I would really suggest using a $50 The reason being is because you get 2 identical notes as change, 2 x $20 notes plus a $5 and it's an easy mistake for them to grab not enough $20 notes from the drawer. If you try with a $20 you will get a $10 a $5 and coin. It's just a little too hard for them to make the "mistake" of not giving you either the $10 or $5 and when you slip 1 note your only left with 1 note and coin therefore making the scam alot harder. Also don't use a $100 because it's not as common someone using a $100 bill to purchase something under $5. They tend to count the change a bit more carefully when a $100 is used. When the scam is done if you see a store where they "count" the money in to your hand, use this place to change your money back in to a $50 to continue with your next scammed store. Also don't hit the same areas too often, we used to jump a train to a different suburb every day. Seriously this isn't some dodgy rort, we DID make big money doing this, and theres very little punishment IF caught. I would be still doing this today only im in a small town and it's over a 2hr drive to the city. Plus im making enough money not to worry about this scam for now. _________________________________________________________________________________ i tried doing this on a few stores today. Everyone one counted 9 1's before handing me the 10. Giving them 20 bucks they usually give you change, 1 ten, and a five, and 4 ones, so i had 5 ones in my pocket used for the scam. But each time before handing me the bill they counted and made shure the amount was right. Any suggestions. _________________________________________________________________________________ quote: __________ I can't see why you aren't still going this if you can make over $500.00 a day. Screw the 2 hour drive if this much money is really in it. __________ Because i make a large quantity of money per day without leaving the area. If i was out of town for the day, i would be loosing money. quote: __________ BY Streamsofwhiskey...i tried doing this on a few stores today. Everyone one counted 9 1's before handing me the 10. Giving them 20 bucks they usually give you change, 1 ten, and a five, and 4 ones, so i had 5 ones in my

pocket used for the scam. But each time before handing me the bill they counted and made shure the amount was right. Any suggestions. __________ Yes don't use the original method with the $1 bills it is stupid. I am NOT JOKING when i say how much money i was making doing this scam the way i explained. And it's NOT some urban myth i heard off my cousins best mates neighbours friend. I was doing this every day for months when i lived in the city. All i can say is PRACTICE slipping a $20 out of your change and up your sleeve in a flash. Also remember you will be carrying the item you purchased in one hand and your change in the other. The faster you can do this the easier the illusion. I could turn from the counter, take ONE step, then turn back around to the cashier with my "short" change. And be confident, this will come with practice. The first few times are a bit nerve racking, just remember its not the dumbs blonde behind the counters money. After a few goes you will be laughing. _________________________________________________________________________________ I tried this scam the very next day after and made a little bit of money. I had to think fast and improvise some of the techniques. For starters, those complaining about them counting the $9 in $1's before handing you a $10 bill heres a simple solution. Make sure u have 11 $1's on you. 10 $1's in your wallet and 1 $1 in your pocket. With 1 of the 1's in your wallet write a bogus phone number on it 555-5555 or something clever. This is your setup. Hand the cashier the 10 $1's from your wallet after they count out 10 $1's they will trade you for a $10 bill, before the cashier places the money into the till say something like "Oh, I'm sorry to bother you again, I think I gave you a $1 with a phone number on it, let me trade you another $1." they will agree, this is when the magic happends take the with the take back the $1 with the number on it and trade it for the one from your pocket, as you hand the cashier the new $1 from your pocket hand them the $10 aslo and ask for a $20. as they are holding the 9 $1's still they will think it's a fair exchange and off you go $10 richer. _________________________________________________________________________________ quote: __________ HAHA you people crack me up. So you are saying they are holding 9 x $1 And you hand them a $1 plus your $10 This means they have $20 of yours. And in return they give you a $20 You sir have just wasted 10 minutes and gained NOT A DIME. __________ Actually, I think the original idea is correct. (The thing is that the cashier can't have $20 of yours, because you only have $11 in the first place!) Here is a brief walkthrough Starting Value: $11 Amount Given to Cashier: $10....Amount Remaining in your posession: $1

Amount received back from cashier: $10......Amount in your posession now: $11 [current net gain: zero] Amount Given to Cashier: $1 Amount Gotten back from cashier: $1.....Amount in your posession now: $11 [current net gain: zero] Amount Given to Cashier: $10.....Amount remaining in your posession now: $1 [current net loss: $10] Amount Received from Cashier: $20...Amount in your posession now: $21 [net gain: $10] _________________________________________________________________________________ A nice site I just came across...http://fraudtech.bizland.com/ short_change.htm _________________________________________________________________________________ I wa sitting here for a while racking my brain as to how i could slip a bill into my sleeve. I couldn't figure it out. But I did come up with soemthing that would work well, if anyones interested. Wear a jacket, and keep it unzipped. When you walk away, hold y0our bag and money in your right hand [or left if youre left handed]. As you walk away transfer the cash to your left hand, folding the bottom bill in half with your right hand [if the 20's are on top do it with the top bill] and slip it into your jacket. Not into your pocket or anything, just inside your jacket. If you practice at home, youll notice the bill just stays there, as it has the jacket pressing agaisnt it. This is very discrete. Just thougth Ide share that.

__________________________________________________________________________________________ _ +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++ P. Possibly Profitable Business... [selling smoke bombs] +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++ __________________________________________________________________________________________ _ Posted by: WatchYourSix Well. I've had to experiment lately with smoke bombs... When I came to realize something. Making smoke bombs is rather... inexpensive. I mean, it costs about $6 for a lb bottle of "Grants Stump Remover" and you can get sugar really cheap... Or just steal lots of packets from resturants. So why not make a profit out of it? I mentioned the smoke bomb to a kid that walked by during a small test and he was like "Whoa. Thats a lot of smoke" so I told him it was home made and he seemed excited by this. He told me he'd -pay- me to make him some... Thats where the thought came from. Why not -sell- the smoke bombs? So thats why i'm posting. Any ideas of how much I should sell them, and how big they should be? I mean, I have to make a buttload of this stuff anyways...

_________________________________________________________________________________ Replies: Nothing new At the local swap meet one can purchase a 5minute smokebomb for $5. Depending on the length of your smokebomb (the amount of time it produces smoke), the original cost put into it, etc...you can experiment with prices and see if people are willing to pay what you're offering. Also depending on what you use for casing, you may want to spraypaint the casing bright colors or the standard camo design... _________________________________________________________________________________ I've been doing this for quite some time. Hehe, when I sell them though, as I don't want any adults to know im into pyrotechnics, I make them sign a contract saying that they will not say who they bought them from if the person has intentions other than buying one. Oh, and I sell mine in square casings, about an inch by an inch, for 5 bucks a peice. I could be making way less, but I live in a small town, and I am pretty much the only one into making pryotechnic stuff. Dam, I'm making more money with all these small time scams, and selling stuff then I was making with a 16 hour a week job. Happy Trails _________________________________________________________________________________ I've been doing this for quite some time. Hehe, when I sell them though, as I don't want any adults to know im into pyrotechnics, I make them sign a contract saying that they will not say who they bought them from if the person has intentions other than buying one. Oh, and I sell mine in square casings, about an inch by an inch, for 5 bucks a peice. I could be making way less, but I live in a small town, and I am pretty much the only one into making pryotechnic stuff. Dam, I'm making more money with all these small time scams, and selling stuff then I was making with a 16 hour a week job.

Happy Trails _________________________________________________________________________________ http://krimzonpyro.com/rat/smoke/kno3smoke.html But I think i've changed my mind. My friend almost burned down his friends house like a stupid ass by lighting it inside... I think i'll issue an IQ test before purhcasing! lol...

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Posted by: tingtonger As there is so many small time scams, i think it would be better to just post your small scam ideas in here, instead of posting a new thread. To start them off, heres a few ebay scams i thought up (not the greates but what ever) Computer Scam Take everything out of your computer box, monitor, and speakers (if you have the knowledge to put them back together later) and go to a dump and get cases and shit from crappy or broken computers for them. Now with your empty case, put it on ebay, and describe it as a (put company name on box here) hewlett packard main computer box, and monitor, and speakers. You can add details and stuff, just make sure you don't actually say there is stuff other than the cases, otherwise you could be sued. Now sell it. Oh ya, you are probably going to get negative feedback, so as long as you don't care about that. Cd Scam Buy a case of 50 blank cd's. Now, crack 10 of the cd's. You could also just crack 10 cd's that burnt improperly and are corrupt, as long as they are the same brand. Now, send these to the cd company, and say that they were cracked when you bought them, and you would like a refund. If they ask, say you went to the store, and they said that they wouldn't give you a refund as company policy. Hopefully they will now give you coupons for free cd's.

Ripped Money Scam Heres my best one yet. I recently found out that where i work, the policy is you can't take bills with more than 1/4 ripped off them. Many other stores will have the same thing. Now, all you have to do is rip the bills, and every 4 bills, you get another one. So if you have 4 50 dollar bills, you would end up with 4 3/4's of 50 dollar bills, and a full one made up of different peices. Or else you only need 3 to make a bill, so you have three quarters of the fake bill, which is acceptable. Happy Trails _________________________________________________________________________________ Replies: Regarding the Computer Scam: For what price do you plan on selling these boxes/casings? Do you honestly believe that people will buy the empty boxes for any reasonable value that would give you a profit over what you paid for your system in the first place? Secondly, I may be overestimating the eBay crowd, but I doubt that even the most clueless buyers would buy a 'Hewlett-Packard' with no system specs, which as you said you can't put in the item description without consequences... Of course, as I've said, I may be giving them too much credit so the best way to see if anyone 'falls for it' is to try it... Regarding the CD Scam: This can work, make sure to send the UPC and/or receipt, and as you said use other older look-a-like cds, or crack a smaller number... Regarding the Ripped Money Scam: You said that every 4 bills you get a new one and that you can also just rip 1/ 4th of 3 bills to make another bill, well in either scenario, what do you do about the middle portions?

Sure ripping the end is easy, but what about the other 2 sections, wouldn't that render the other bills useless? _________________________________________________________________________________ This isn't worth a new topic, so I thought I'd put it here if anywhere... I saw a couple kids today pouring out a juice jug into the drain in the frozen foods section, they had a bottle of scotch with them, so I assume they were going to pour the alcohol into the juice jug, personally I was somewhat surprised that no one said anything, but hey something to consider for you underage drinkers... _________________________________________________________________________________ You are forgeting about my little friend tape. Just cut the middle portion out, and tape it back together leaving a space of half a centimeter. Tons of times a bill has ripped in half or something in my pocket, and I haven't had someone not accept it yet. Now, you have to understand that the people you are doing this to aren't the smartest people ever. It's not people super good at detecting fakes or anything, its your average cashier that has probably never had a lesson about catching fraud money. And that one is a good idea about the orange juice. Or maybe, some people drink stuff in the store, and then pay for a now empty container at the cash, so you could drink half, and then mix some scotch in. Regarding the computer scam, im not saying only put that it is a hewlett packard, im saying make it sound like it is something great, but when they get it, it sucks, but it still is everything you said it was. Like say it has a processor in it that can do anything it is ordered to do in under a second, and put a calculator inside the computer. A calculator is a processor, and it is inside it, and it can do almost everything you tell it to do in under a second and you could probably get a couple hundred bucks for it, depending on the quality of your lying.

__________________________________________________________________________________________ _ +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++ R. Scams + Making Money +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++ __________________________________________________________________________________________ _ Posted by: MSW2006 Ah, just thought I'd post some stuff on how I make my money. Some of it is copied from totse, but all of the below I've tried, and have turned quite a profit from it. 1.) Shoplifting. This is one of the greater things I like to do; it turns in a shitload of cash, and is rather easy once you know where to shoplift and what to look out for. Look for my other thread on shoplifting for more shit about where to go and what to do and what not to do. Also, if you're worried about getting busted, go out back and hop into the dumpster, and look for a bag of barcodes that are already printed on, and use them whenever you feel it's convenient. It's not directly stealing, just "lowering" the price. If you don't feel like dumpster diving, just take stickers from other items in the store and use them. 2.) Dumpster diving is another good way to make some money. Hell, I got into the dumpster behind a local CD store to find some shit, and I found 13 CDs. I walked into the store with what money I had, after I collected the CDs and shoved them in my pocket, and went home. I ran them through the scratch repair thingy, and they're now scratch free. I'll have sold them all by the end of the week.

3.) "Slugging" vending machines is another thing. While it might be hard to get ahold of a whole bunch of washers (type 14 brass work as dimes) without raising suspicion, if you get them for less than a dime, they work very well at turning a profit. Simply insert them into the machine, and press the coin return. If the machine is of the preferable kind,it will give you back coins different than what you have inserted. 4.) Another vending machine thing is to find an older machine, and place a long length of tape on a dollar bill. Insert it, and wait for your credit. Press the coin return or select a soda, and pull the dollar back out. 5.) Stick a bunch of tissues way up the coin return on a vending machine. 'Nuff said. 6.) Bangbangbooty posted an idea of buying an item under five dollars for with a fifty dollar bill. The clerk gives you back some coins, singles, a five and two twenties. Step away, and stick one of the twenties up your sleeve. Inquire about the missing twenty, and you'll usually get it. Repeat at a different store each time. 7.) Do what Paranoid_Pothead said. Get Absolut vodka or Smirnoff vodka bottles, and fill them with a cheaper vodka. Resell at a high profit. See, I'm interested in a new array of easy, sly scams that'll bring in plenty of money, but bring minimal risk of getting caught. Ideas? There's some posted above. Everybody else? _________________________________________________________________________________ Replies: I like the idea of this thread... If only this BBS supported stickying threads. Anyway, I dug one up from way back, and edited it for spelling & grammar. Original poster: 5150 "Go to a thrift store and pick up books which are current and in good shape (no writing in them, large scratches, etc..), take a couple and go to the big chains which are killing off all the privately owned bookstores. Say you got them for presents and you already have one etc... they will give you store credit in the form of plastic. Now get anything you really want, no replies are necessary to this post. " Border's, a mainstream bookstore, has a policy of accepting books in decent/good condition for store credit (even without the receipt). This is been verified via the borders website, so this DOES work. _________________________________________________________________________________ I wrote this one as a reply to a counterfeiting post a long time ago... Somewhat out of context. __________ I was comparing a few different bills, and realized that the $1 bill had NONE of the security features of any of the other bills. No security strip inside, no color-changing ink prints, no water-mark. The only thing they had was the little red-blue fibers, which would be easy to fake/are unsignificant. I would never personally counterfeit anything due to the HEAVY punishment involved, but if I were to (hypothetically), I would just stick to 1's. The cheapest way to do it without photo-offset printing would probably be the following (or at least this is what I would do) Step 1 Get a NEW, HIGH QUALITY scanner, and some high-end imaging software (not mspaint, heh) such as Adobe Photoshop. Then I would get the image set up after scanning a crisp new bill, and touching the image up.

Then I would do several weeks worth of research. Go to any sort of paper store/place where you can buy stationary, post offices, book stores, etc within a feasible distance and look for the right paper. As close as possible. Actually pick up books, open them up, and have a feel. Books are printed of different paper, and you might just find something similar. You'll never find anything exact, unless you stumble upon a company that makes linen-paper. American bills aren't paper, they're cloth/paper. Once a very close paper has been found, I would make a dye-wash, the off-color whitish/pale green color the actual paper is. I'd compare it with a real dollar bill, and make it exact (or as close as possible). Then apply it to a sheet of the selected paper. Now you should have a crisp piece of off-whitish paper that feels like a dollar bill and looks like the same color. Wait for it to dry, and stick it in a HIGH RESOLUTION ultra-printer. Print onto your dyed paper using the maximum quality settings and hope for the best. If it turns out fine, great. If it doesn't, or even if it does, I'd advise crumpling it up some. If you're unsure about it, set it and a normal dollar bill aside, out of sight for a few days. Wait for your mind to clear. Then uncover them both and do a re-comparison. If the fake bill is obvious, abort everything. Years in federal prison isn't worth the risk. That seems like a lot to do for one dollar, but after you've discovered the right method, you just do everything in bulk.

Now lets say you have a nicely cut stack of counterfeit 1's in your possesion. I'm one of those paranoid people when it comes to stuff that has to do with a huge punishment, so I would probably take out a floor-board or something. Put them somewhere secret. If by some chance an authority figure is in your home, they're not going to see your fake money. You'd want them to tear your house down before they find anything. The main point: hide it WELL. Get creative. Part two: Using the money. At this point you'll have some semi-worn fake dollar bills laying around. The best thing to do is find some way to exchange it for the real deal. What I mean by that, is you need to go to somewhere where you can get 5 fake 1's exchanged into a REAL 5 dollar bill. Maybe someone you don't know too well, maybe a hot-dog stand or somewhere. Once you've exchanged (lets say 50 dollars starting out) into real 50 dollars worth of currency, you're in the clear. You can spend it anywhere. If you don't want to do that, and want to spend the money directly, I'd be very careful. Not only are older store owners/loyal employees trained to detect counterfeit bills, but they also have bill processors that sniff them out. Example: If you're at a grocery store, go through some 14 year old's line. He doesn't know counterfeit from real, and even if he somehow detected it (which wouldn't happen if you made these right), he wouldn't give a damn. ALWAYS try to spend it at registers with kids. ALWAYS. I can't stress this enough. Another method of low-risk spending would be to go during VERY busy hours. Example: a local cafe/bagel shop during lunch hours. There will be people in line everywhere, and the employees (pick the register with teenager(s)) will be looking to grab the money out of your hand and throw you your change ASAP. They hardly even look at it. And keep in mind, they shouldn't be able to tell it's counterfeit by glancing it over/counting the bills. There we have it. If you want to play it safe, I'd spend half counterfeit/half real money at the same time. I'll explain why in a moment

Part 3 - Getting caught Lets say, for example, you don't properly make these and you're too ignorant to back out of this scheme. Some old bastard that owns a store finds out one of the bills you payed with is counterfeit, and pulls you aside. What do you do? WHAT do you do? Act dumb. "Excuse me, did you know this bill is counterfeit" -- your reply? "What are you talking about? Let me see it... I had no idea, how can you tell if these are counterfeit or not? I got it as change for my 10 when I went to xxxxxx store earlier today" Just make up some sort of bullshit like that. It's impossible to trace back to you. Hell if he knows how long it could've been in circulation. He knows that ANYONE could end up with a counterfeit bill. Lets say he's an unreasonable person, and accuses you of doing it. He'll ask for your name and address. You can do one of two things: 1) "Fuck this, I have no idea what you're talking about, I didn't make this bill. You have no right to that information" and walk out. He doesn't know your name, and can't do shit about it. If he tries to stop you, physically, he just did a big no-no. or 2) Give him your name and address and go home. Wipe your hard drive, and reinstall windows. Give your scanner to a friend. Burn any and all counterfeit money inside your house. Burn the paper used to make the money. Dump the dyes used to dye the paper down the sink. Chances are you'll have the FBI knocking on your doorstep within a few days. Even with small probable cause to search your house, the feds take counterfeiting SERIOUSLY. My last and most important point that has to do with getting caught (I CANNOT PUT ENOUGH EMPHASIS ON THIS) DO NOT, I REPEAT, DO NOT TELL A-N-Y-O-N-E. Not your parents, not your girlfriend, not your best friend. Nobody. You'd be surprised how fast this can spread. I can wager that 85% of amateur counterfeiters get caught because of word-of-mouth. Resist the temptation to tell all your friends about it. When you're thinking about telling them, think about getting raped to death in federal prison. You want to keep your mouth sealed. __________ Wow, that turned out a hell of a lot longer than I thought it would be. I've never tried this, and it's all pure speculation, so think of it what you want Edit: If anyone were to try this, try to scam out the big conglomerates. Don't pick on small family-operated stores. Stick one to the man. _________________________________________________________________________________ Growing weed works great. It is very easy to do, www.overgrow.com is all you need. The equipment will cost under 200 dollars, and the seeds are around 20. You can start an entire operation and end it in less than a few months, having up to almost a pound of harvest. However, there are risks and downsides associated with this. I do not wish to discuss all the details here, but everyone that need money and want some bud to smoke should look into this. _________________________________________________________________________________ Well, you could always buy a bunch of cheap burnable CDs from Best Buy (Even on the Generic brands, you get big rebates. I got 100 blanks for $3 after rebate...) Then, don't even waste time burning anything onto them, and sell them to little hormone driven pre-pubescents saying they have 700 megs of porn.

Not like they're gonna kick your ass. _________________________________________________________________________________ Don't for get when counterfeiting to put the freshly made bills into some water and then dry them in your drying machine to make them looke like used bills. _________________________________________________________________________________ boot leg cigs. IF cigarettes in your area are as expensive here in Manitoba, and you have alot of freinds with very little cash and who nic out like all the time , this is the post for you. me and some freinds do this alot at our high school , a pack fo smokes here costs average 10$, 25 cigarettes , (make sure your not a smoker, very advisable) , since almost no one ever has a pack at school due to spending money on drugs and they always have change.Sell a smoke for 1$ to anyone, and you make 25$ each pack you sell, 15$ profit for just standing on the smoke pad at break selling smokes.

__________________________________________________________________________________________ _ +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++ S. Possible 'Drop' Locations +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++ __________________________________________________________________________________________ _ Posted by: dDIzzIEe All right, this subject matter was touched briefly upon in the Telemarketer Scam thread ( http://www.totse.com/bbs/Forum7/HTML/003205.html ) but I thought it warranted a separate thread, so here goes… Either you want to purchase some goods with a stolen credit card number, or are ordering a package you’d rather not have go to your own home, some locations you may wish to consider: NOTE: Of course the techniques involved in using safe houses largely depend on what you are ordering, in other words if it can be simply left in the mailbox or by the door, or if it requires the recipient to be present at the time of delivery… -‘Safe Houses,’ or drops that do nnot require any identification or prior investment *An empty house. Can be spotted by the ‘for sale’ sign in the front yard, or by browsing through one of those free realtor catalogs available on nearly every street corner. It is advised that the For Sale sign is removed, however if you are receiving a large package that will not fit in the mailbox/requires a signature and thus you plan on being ‘at’ the house at the time of delivery, an excuse can be given to the delivery man along the lines of “yeah, we’re moving next month and trying to sell this ol’ heap…”

*Work-time house. Can be spotted by several days of observation. A stereotypical house in suburbia where all residents are at work/not present at the time of usual mail delivery. Be sure to watch the right type of truck depending on how your package will be sent: USPS, FedEx, etc… *Residents-on-vacation house. May be a bit difficult to find, especially the length of the vacation and as thus is not too common/reliable. *Model home. Found particularly in new suburban housing developments, these are the ‘showcase homes’ that are used by realtors to show off what the new houses will look like. Can be found by looking for new freshly built housing developments and spotting one that looks like it has electricity at night/furniture. Can also be found by contacting a realtor and saying that you would like to see model homes in _____[city of choice]. -‘Risk Locations,’ or drops that rrequire identification and/or prior investment, and as thus I generally do not recommend. *Cheap rented hotels, rented for a week or so, require identification, moderate payment, and suspicion may be raised when an address is that of a hotel. *P.O. Boxes, require identification, small payment, have cameras, and suspicion may be raised when an address is a P.O.Box. *Cheap rented rooms, either around ‘college towns’ or generally poor areas. May or may not require identification, moderate to low payment, however pose the risk of future identification based on the fact that numerous people would have seen you. If you are further interested in drop locations the shadowcrew and carderplanet forums may be worth paying a visit. Comments? Ideas? _________________________________________________________________________________ Replies: If you have access to friends in school, you can also send things there. Take my school for example, it is undergoing renovation, and there are office assistants(students) who sign for packages regularly that has to do with computer/classroom supplies. I know a friend who is an office assitant, and she was more than willing to sign a package for me, then take that package to a storage room where it was taken apart and placed into my backpack. Now this might not work in all cases. What I ordered was a HPS light, used for growing plants. This thing fits in with the fact that the school is getting some new security lights, and the fact that the office regularly uses students, unsupervised, to sign for, store, disassemble, and re-assemble things sent to the school. Also, note that the above could be applied to certain college campuses. Good luck with your drops.

__________________________________________________________________________________________ _ +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++ T. this does work,i just called a buch of food companies,lol [customer complaint scam] +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++ __________________________________________________________________________________________ _ Posted by: phreakybitch thanks for reminding me about this great scam dude,i just called a whole buch of food companies(the phone #s are on the website) and they were all very apologetic and are sending coupons(chef boyardee, hormel,and more)lol happy shoppin yall __________ may i add that sending hate email to resturant websites also gets you free gift certificates to all of your fav fast food places and dining joints _________________________________________________________________________________ Replies: what do you say when you call? what do they ask? how do you respond? _________________________________________________________________________________ when i call a company,lets say its some sort of refridgerated food,i tell them that when i opened the package it smelled awful,rancid,and that the manager was rude and refused to give me an exchange and that i got so mad at the store that i threw the package in their trash,thus a good excuse for not having a UPC code(but only if they ask for one,dont volunteer info),keep it short and to the point. i tell them that one of the cashiers let me in on the fact that their coolers were recently malfuctioning but stocked the cold merchandise anyway,this will work great with cold meat,frozen dinners and dairy companies. as far as canned and jar foods,you can claim that you found weird looking specks and or mold when you opened it and that the manager was a dickhead and refused to exchange the item. when complaining to a resturant website they may want to know why you didnt take this complaint up with the manager at the time,you can tell them that your server insisted that he or she was busy counting cash(managers CANNOT leave their office when doing this on new or changing shifts,this is a first priority) and to leave your name and number and that no one called,you can tell them you called the resturant again to try to speak to the manager and got the same runaround and thats when you decided to complain to the big boys. some good resturant complaints is that the server screwed your order up and was rude about fixing it and then screwed it up again,your salad was limp and slimy,your food was cold and inedible,you can also rant that you over heard a waitress telling a cook or another server to spit in your food and refused to eat it,that someone smeared shit all over the bathroom wall and you got violently ill,the list goes on and on,but the unavailable manager/rude server is a great con and usually works. and to respond to clown #1 no im not hard up for cash at all,i work in the food industry and know how to get away with this,these companies have mega-insurance and can just write up their losses on next years tax returns,they could really give a shit less they just dont want the hassle,if someone is going to get free shit it might as well be me. _________________________________________________________________________________

Oh, and BTW, how does this sound for a complaint email? quote: __________ Recently I visited a Swiss Chalet [located on the Queensway, in Toronto Ontario] and was very displeased. When I first recieved my order, it was simply not what I asked for. The waitress was rude and kept telling me that WAS what I ordered. However, I know what I ordered. After waiting 10-15 minutes for another meal, it wasn't fully cooked. Though it looked cooked, when I bit into it I could taste that it was not hot as it should be. I asked to speak with the manager, but I was told he couldn't talk to me right now because he was counting money. I left my phone number on my way out [I never recieved another meal. After having it screwed up twice I was fed up.] and was told I would recieve a call from the manager. This was a week and a half ago [this occured on Wednesday March 12 '03] and I am yet to recieve a call. I would just like to say I am very mad, as I had my time wasted, I was treated badly, and I never even got to eat. And to top it off, I was blatantly lied to, in being told that I could expect a phone call. __________ I sent it to Swiss Chalet [obviously]. I used a few of phreakybitch's suggestions as you can see. So, what do you think? _________________________________________________________________________________ yeah nobody,your letter sounds very valid. they will usually email you or snailmail you with a gift certificate,you may also want to add that you are also upset that your bill was almost sixty bucks or some shit like that,happy dining.

__________________________________________________________________________________________ _ +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++ U. Free food from sonic +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++ __________________________________________________________________________________________ _ Posted by: TreyDay Not sure exactly how this would work because I've only been thinking about this because I'm real hungry right now and want to try this. Go to Sonic and order your food. They usually hand your food to you inside your car and then expect you to give them the money. Just drive off. You'd have to back out first, but just be fast about it. Would it work?

Just to make this not be a senseless post, here's a way that I HAVE TRIED and works. Order some food, and then press the button again and tell them to cancel part of the order. Usually they charge what the second order costed and give you the first order without any cancelled food. I've done this twice, but I didn't do it on purpose. Any questions? _________________________________________________________________________________ Replies: here is what you do,go when sonic is mad busy and use the drive thru. there is usually a pile of cars waiting for food,park as close as you can facing the exit(the drive in spots will be full but it doesent really matter,thus making a fast exit without having to back up,remember ,haul ass. if you want to get a laugh you can hand your food server a folded note to distract them and quickly say oops,im sorry the money is wrapped up my order list and take off,write something obnoxious in it like thanks for the free food dickwad or some other obnoxious shit like that. _________________________________________________________________________________ Order your food, and then when they give it to you, tell them that you're going to buy a small drink or something, then when they do back to get it, DRIVE OFF! Heheh. _________________________________________________________________________________ WTF? or you can just complain about your food and get a refund. _________________________________________________________________________________ ok the people at sonic may be too stupid to do this...but dont you think they would train their people to get your plate # as your driving off?? so wouldnt you have to do something to prevent that? _________________________________________________________________________________ or you could pay, drive off, eat the food, call there and complain like fuck, and say you asked for no onions or no salt

__________________________________________________________________________________________ _ +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++ V. Complaint Letter Scam Writing Tips +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++ __________________________________________________________________________________________ _ Posted by: dDIzzIEe Complaint Letter Scam Writing Tips BY: DIzzIE [c]opyleft2003 Introduction All right, I know that this is nothing new, this ‘scam’ has been going on for ages, with various variations, these are just some helpful tips on writing professional letters that will ensure good results .

What? Basically the ‘scam’ simply involves writing a letter to a particular manufacturer complaining about the product you ‘purchased.’ The goal is to receive coupons for free products, or a check. While this can be applied to any consumer good, customer satisfaction being an important aspect of every company’s mission statement, experience has shown that it is most successful in ‘grocery store’ items, particularly food and personal hygiene items. All one has to do is pick a product, look at the box and find the address of the company that makes it, or simply type the product name into a search engine and check out the ‘Contact’ area of their website. Next, one proceeds to write a letter explaining how one is [was] a loyal customer but has found that the last purchased product did not meet expectations, in that it was flawed, damaged, etc… Letter Writing Tips First of all, it is always better to write a complaint letter, versus a praise letter (saying how much you liked the product), due to the fact that companies are more worried about loosing customers, and in some cases possible legal action. While the content of your letter should be obvious, here are a few pointers about that as well: *Keep it short. Two-three paragraphs will suffice, and maximum length should be one page, keep it to the point. *Start the letter off by saying that you were a loyal, long-term customer (hence increasing the value of the loss of your business in the reader’s mind) *Proceed to state exactly what the product was, for example ‘Pop Secret Extra Movie Butter 12 pack Microwavable Popcorn,’ versus just ‘Pop Secret Popcorn,’ this helps the company compensate you for a specific amount. This also leads me to another point: always go for the larger package, for example don’t just say you bought one can of ramen noodles, say that you bought a bulk 25 package. *State the irregularity found in the product, keep this reasonable, don’t go overboard. For example, it is advised that you don’t say anything extravagant like ‘there was a dead rat in my bag of cookies…’ instead say something like ‘the cookies were stale beyond consumption, the ones that weren’t were crushed…’ Basically vent your dissatisfaction. *Make it clear that you are very upset over this matter, and while you can be blunt and state that you expect a full refund, this is not necessary. As long as you express your strong dissatisfaction, you can expect either a coupon or check within two-three weeks. Also not stating a direct request for a refund will show that you are not focused on the money, just with the bad quality of the product. Sealing the deal While it is almost 100% likely that you will receive retribution without even a direct request for it, let alone a UPC code, if you want to be completely certain that you will receive a refund/coupon, include a UPC code with your letter. This can be obtained by simply going to grocery store and cutting off a pertinent UPC. Don’t just toss the UPC into the envelope, attach it to the letter with a paperclip. Formality goes a long way, and helps show your professionalism. The letter should be composed in either formal block or semi-block format. The semi-block format has the sender’s address, and date on the right side of the page, followed by a double space, and the receiver’s name and address on the left hand side, followed by a double space, a salutation (Dear, To Whom It May Concern, etc…), another double space, and then the letter body with a double space between paragraphs and a closing indented Sincerely, followed by a quadruple space, and then your name printed, with the quadruple space being where you hand-sign your name after printing. If you are enclosing a UPC code, a double space below your name, include ‘Attachment’ or ‘Enclosure.’ A formal block letter on the other hand, has everything beginning on the left hand side of the page, with no indentation. To see examples of these formats look at some letters you have received or type something along the lines of ‘business letter formats’ or ‘block format letters’ into a search engine. Also, be sure to use your real name (unless you have false identification) so you can be able to cash the check.

Also, here are a few sites with their tips on Complaint Letter Writing http://www.howtocomplain.com/info/cl-template.shtml http:// www.pueblo.gsa.gov/crh/caw_afterubuy_letter.htm I hope this has provided you with some helpful pointers, best of luck . [This message has been edited by dDIzzIEe (edited 03-15-2003).] _________________________________________________________________________________ Replies: I appreciate you writing this article. Perhaps you should submit it to the main site. __________ I was talking to a couple friends a little while ago about it. I remember reading a thread about it about a month ago, sparking the idea. If you write a clean, edited, grammatically correct letter with a LEGITIMATE excuse, it will work. Your cookie excuse (Horribly stale, and many crushed cookies) was perfect. An excuse that is easily possible. They will probably think "Oh, it got handled badly, or we lost track of this bag and delivered it later, thus making it old and stale". Now then, large conglomerates will take complaints seriously. And considering they would rather just send out coupons for free products (which cost them pennies to produce), or a check, then deal with losing a customer (or customers), or a lawsuit, this would work. __________ Have you ever done this? Mind posting the results? _________________________________________________________________________________ Pfft. Go for something big. Dig around some trash or something to find the UPC code for whatever you want, or any other way you can get it. If it's say a TV you can sometimes get it off the box when a neighbour buys one. (Even if you don't want it, just sell it.) Now what would be a good "defect" for an MP3 player? Broken transfer cable? Defunct hard disk? Battery shortage? Hmm... _________________________________________________________________________________ If you claim to have a broken $200 MP3 player, they will want you to send it back for free repair, or for a replacment [they can then repair it and resell it]. However, soemone I know did somethign interesting. He called up a shoe company, and said the sole on one of the shoes he just bought, ripped off. He told the lady that he went to the store to return the shoes, and they told him to call the company for a replacment. The lady said a replacment would be no problem, all he had to do was send the shoes in, and they'd send him a new pair. What he said, was that he had thrown out his old pair, and would be without shoes for like a month if he did this. He also threw in the fact that he could just not send them back for a replacement, and deal with being ripped off by the company for $200. The lady said that she could send out the replacment shoes, and he could send his torn pair back when he got the new ones. He got the shoes, and never heard from the company again. Obviously he had never bought a pair of these shoes to begin with, so never sent the torn pair back. I doubt a multi-billion dollar shoe company would goto the trouble of sueing someone over a $200 pair of shoes. _________________________________________________________________________________ A full copy of the thread can be found in the archive at: http://www.totse.com/bbs/Archives/ Archive-000009/HTML/20030316-7-003182.html

__________________________________________________________________________________________ _ +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++ W. The Telemarketer Scam +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++ __________________________________________________________________________________________ _ Posted by: CDG Well, its more of an idea actually. I was just thinking that perhaps from a stolen/carded/boxed phone, one can pretend to be a telemarketer, selling items or service at incredibly low prices. You would then proceeded to get the credit card information on the individual, along with full level 3 info. Im not sure on the details of this, as I said it is only an idea, and a pretty obvious one. Im suprised no one has discussed this in the past. We should compile a list of methods to get phone service, a list of what info to ask for, certain ways to sell your item, items for sale and answers to questions regarding the item for sale, and finnally, how to use the info that you got. All I can think about for now, guys try to make this good. __________ I would like to start on this myself. Phone Service: To start, you would not be able to do this beige boxing at 2AM. No telemarketer calls at that time, and your potential customers would be very annoyed. Instead, try to steal a cellphone as that is very easy to do. The second method would be to find a phone that you can redbox. Now people say those no longer exist, well trust me, they do. Once you find one, telemarket away! Then finnally, you can always get yourself a tracphone from Nokia, these are expensive to get and maintain/card, but are convienent. Well anyway, it isnt hard to get phone service. Just remember that as long as you cant be tracked back, you are safe. Easy to say, hard to do. _________________________________________________________________________________ Replies: Well, telemarketer fraud has been around since, well telemarketers :- p, however most telemarketer scams involve an elaborate setup where a product is actually sent to the victim, albeit a very poor quality product not worth the value the victim shelled out. These types of ‘mainstream’ ‘organized’ scams are not our slice of pie, as we will be focusing on a faster approach with the simple goal of getting the victim’s money.

With this in mind, lets take a look at the topics CDG outlined: I. Obtaining Phone Service Along with the aforementioned methods provided by CDG (as well as keeping in mind that legally, in the US telemarketers are only allowed to call between 8am-9pm) another idea would be to go to a posh hotel and use a phone they will often have in a side lobby or visitor ‘business office.’ Walk into the Hilton from a side door and look around… As for stealing cell phones, look around unattended purses in public areas such as parks, libraries, etc… Also if you don’t mind suffering a minor loss, you can just go to a payphone and pay for your calls, of course at 35cents per call this will add up quickly and is only suggested as a last resort if none of the other methods work… II. What Information To Ask For. This will depend on what our goal is, is it to get a credit card number, a check, or better yet our good friend Cash? I believe that although the top choice would of course be cash, the most probable one would be a credit card, and a check as a last resort as that would involve obtaining false identification and more unpleasantness. Assuming you are going for a credit card, you will need to ask fort he following information: *Type of card (Discover, MC, etc…) *Full name (as appears on card) *Card number *Expiration Date *The 4 Digit Verification Code (appearing right under the card number) III. Items For Sale What to sell? What to sell? Well, two popular items of the aforementioned ‘mainstream’ telemarketer scammers are vitamins and water purifiers. Seeing as how 60% of those succumbing to telemarketer scams are senior citizens, whatever you choose to ‘sell’ should bear that in mind. My motto being ‘temperance is a virtue,’ I wouldn’t recommend picking something extravagant like a new lawnmower, instead choose something along the lines of the vitamins and water purifiers: chocolates, illustrated bibles, American flags, etc… If calling a month or so before a holiday target the time frame: decorative wreaths, pumpkin carving kits, etc… Remember that since you don’t actually plan on delivering anything, you can pick whatever you want, keeping in mind your target audience (whether it be senior citizens or Soccer Moms). Another idea, which is also used by the mainstreamers, is charity. Instead of focusing your pitch on a specific item, focus it on a specific charity. The charity can be real or made up to sound real, such as the _____(name of your city) Coalition To Combat Leukemia. Subjects that the charity should focus on include: sick children, incurable diseases, war veterans, poverty relief, medical funding, environmental issues (such as local park clean-up), and so on… IV. Ways Of Selling Your Item, Selling Tips, and Sample Script Some general tips, followed by a sample script. * “Temperance is a virtue.” Two things you must not do: 1)Sound overly anxious/enthusiastic, 2)Ask for outrageous Amounts of Money. You must entice the victim, keeping an air of professional levity whilst holding a serious undertone. Do not push the targeted victim if he/she starts to decline the product, but maintaining a level voice, simply state that this is a limited time offer, and if it doesn’t work, move on to the next name in the phone book, plenty of fish in the proverbial sea, some will get through your net, others wont. As for the amount you ask for the ‘product’ it should range from moderately low (if your goal is to obtain a credit card), to medium (if your goal is to obtain cash). *A general value I would recommend going for is $15-$45. With charities, let it appear as if the victim can decide what amount he would like to donate, include guiding phrases like ‘most patrons donate around $20’

Here is a sample, ‘backbone’ script, in which you will be trying to get a victim to donate to a reputable charity, in this case, Youth Crisis Centre, commentary appears in brackets. Scammer: Hello, is this Mrs. Rosenburg? [name appearing in phone book] Victim: Yes, this is her. S: Hello ma’am, my name is Michael Vinsberg, I am calling today from the Youth Crisis Centre [2 things: 1) always introduce ‘yourself’ and your ‘organization,’] S: Mrs.Rosenburg, one out of every thirty children in our city is forced to go without food due to negligent parentsV: Sorry, not interested *dial tone* [expect this to happen numerous times, do not get discouraged and move onto the next name] Scammer: Hello, is this Mrs. Thurmany? Victim: Yes, this is her. S: Hello ma’am, my name is Michael Vinsberg, I am calling today from the Youth Crisis Centre, we are a nonprofit organization which provided care for children from broken drug-ruined homes. We work in association with foster homes and adoptions centers supplying medical supplies, food, clothing, and the like. As we are a nonprofit organization, our funding comes from concerned citizens such as yourself. I am calling you today to ask if you would be willing to contribute to our organization. V: How much would this donation entail? S: Ma’am, that is entirely up to you, whatever amount you can generously donate will be a great deal, as we need everything from food to medical supplies, every little bit helps, just to ballpark mot of our private citizens donate around twenty to fifty dollars. Also, allow me to mention that with your donation you will receive an honorary certificate of in recognition of your contribution to the YCC, and also become eligible for our monthly raffle for which the price is a steam cooker…Patrons of or over fifty dollars receive the book, ‘Joy: Tales of Triumph,’ a compendium of personal stories of many of our children. [Little ‘rewards’ can be sprinkled into the donation deal, perhaps mentioning the book without the $50 minimum] V: Hrmmmm… S: State regulations also require us to have a 3 day return policy, so if you change your mind for any reason your money will be returned to you, or your card not billed…As we are a nonprofit organization, there is absolutely no private gain, all our staff consists of volunteers… V: All right, I will donate fifty dollars. S: That’s great, and how would you like to submit your donation? By credit card over the phone, or by mail with a cash amount? V: I’ll pay with MasterCard right now… S: All right, and could I get you to transcribe the required information, including the shipping address… V: card number, expiration date, etc… S: On behalf of the YCC, I would like to thank you for your gratitude, and remember that should you change your mind please call us at _______ (either a bullshit number, the number of a payphone, etc…), you will receive your certificate shortly! Have a grand day. -EnDWell, this is a simplified sample script, I’ll post some more tips on scamming techniques as well as the “answers to questions regarding the item for sale” and “how to use the info that you got” topics in a little while… And it would be useful if actual telemarketers helped us out with this __________ Posted by: bunghole I'm a telemarketer and that's basically the format we use. When you first start you might be a bit jittery but after a while you'll get into it and it'll be easy shit. _________________________________________________________________________________

Sounds good. You could also hide out near a big apartment complex, with a scanner and recorder, and wait until people order shit. If you live in a big city you will not be waiting long. You can figure out the tones with a spectrum analyzer program, or do it by ear, using an old-school continuous tone phone for reference. _________________________________________________________________________________ Regarding the subject of how to get the victim to send you cash: Setting up a P.O.Box is not recommended as that requires identification, and most post offices have cameras... An alternative would be to locate a 'safe house,' in other words a house that you feel can receive mail for you: this can be an unoccupied house, a house whose owners are on vacation for the necessary time frame, a house whose mail you can check before the owners, a ‘model home’ showed off to potential buyers but never actually bought, and so on… When giving your address to the victim (“Please mail your donation in a patterned secure envelope to…”), make sure to include the name of your ‘organization’ as the first line, to further instill the feeling of authenticity, for example: Youth Crisis Centre, Attn: Finance Division, 3405 Westernson Ln, etc… As to how to go about using the information you received (particularly credit card numbers), you may want to pay a visit to the shadowcrew and carderplanet forums for more insights, but a simple suggestion would be to order from an online merchant using a public library/ internet café computer, with the shipping address being a ‘safe house’ mentioned above. As for “answers to questions regarding the item for sale” this would of course greatly depend on the item you choose to ‘sell.’ Members can post potential questions they feel they would be unsure as to how to answer, and others can try their best to come up with plausible answers . _________________________________________________________________________________ now about the getting a PO box thing, in new zealand im sure there are cameras. but you require no id, well it doesnt ask for any on the form..not sure if they ask you when you ahnd the form in. all they require is a address + phone number, steal a mobile and get a sim card for like $20 theres your number if things turn shit destroy the sim. as for the 'safe house' im not entirely sure how it works. ive thought about it very hard over this credit card scam im developing but it seems nearly impossible in NZ to get a so called 'safehouse' - and a mail box popping up in some random vacant lot in anyones neighbour hood is suspicious _________________________________________________________________________________ One suggestion for using the credit card numbers: Goto a gas station, or something similar. Basically a place that gets a lot of daily customers, and takes credit cards. Buy something [like gas!]. Then, when you goto pay, say that you have lost your wallet, but your credit card company said you can still use the number until you get a replacement. Most of the time there will be no problem. The people will just allow you to use the number, and let you be on your way. I know soemone who has doen this before, and it works. Now you're probably wondering where the big pay off is. I mean, all you got out of it was a tank of gas. Well, CASH BACK! Make sure to ask for $200-$250 cash back.

Hell, you can spend a few bucks at a payphone, get one number, and walk away with $200+ cash. Do this once a day and you're paying the rent!

__________________________________________________________________________________________ _ +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++ X. Stealing Bicycles +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++ __________________________________________________________________________________________ _ Posted by: dDIzzIEe Stealing Bicycles tips by: DIzzIE [c]opyleft2003 Just a few tips on a nice way to make some cash; something to do on a boring Wednesday night . What: Stealing a bicycle with the purpose of reselling (or perhaps even for personal use). Materials: *Bolt Cutters [Can be purchased for $15 at a local hardware store or stolen from a repair truck/toolshed] *A can or two of spray paint, particularly the metallic enamel spray paint variety [Once again, can be purchased for $5 from a local hardware store…Krylon is a popular brand or swiped from a garage] *Transportation to a somewhat distant city [Different state would be preferable, different town would be a minimum] Where: Well, anywhere where there are bicycles , college campuses tend to have lots of areas for bicycle parking, just make sure that you look like you belong on a college campus, and keep an eye out for security patrols. Another place would be in front of supermarkets, libraries, and so on… When: Night or at least dusk is preferable so as to make your actions less noticeable. How: Approach the bicycle stand calmly, keeping the bolt cutters inside a jacket/ trench coat, or if on a college campus, inside a backpack. If concealed in a trench coat, the bolt cutters can be secured with a rope tied around your shoulder. Three things to look 1) the most expensive looking bike, 2) the bike that doesn’t have any security, and 3) is anyone closely watching? Assuming there is a bicycle that is not secured, you will have to make a choice, judging by its appearance, if you can get a sufficient amount of money for it, or whether you want to go for the nicer, secured bike. As for secured bikes, your best bet is to go for the ones that are locked

with a chain or cable, versus a U-shaped lock, as those are a bit harder to cut through with the bolt cutters. Of course, if you have the necessary locksmith skills, you can always pick the locks, but the rest of us have to resort to the brute force methods. Near the bike stand when no one else is at the stand, and casually, after noticing the target bicycle, lean down, take out the bolt cutters and cut through (the cable locks will obviously be the easiest to cut through), the chain locks may take a few tries to get a clean cut as will the U locks. Getting Away: You will then need to make another choice: do you want to just ride away on the bike or do you want to put it in a car and drive off. The advantages of the former include a more casual appearance, while at the same time risking someone noticing the bike. The advantage of the later is that you will get away from the scene of the crime faster, yet you risk getting questionable looks when you put the bike in your trunk (if it fits in the first place…). A suggestion would be to ride the bike to an alley and place it into your vehicle there, away from prying eyes. Another choice that you will have to make is whether to leave the broken lock at the bike stand, or to take it with you. Leaving it at the scene may leave unwanted finger prints, while taking it with you may involve a direct link between you and the theft should you be apprehended (although the bolt cutters would be a big link anyway). Hence, what is recommended is that you dump the broken lock into a distant trash can. Reselling: You may not even want to resell the bike but keep it as a means of transportation, but in any case, the bike should be repainted (this is where the spray paint comes in), and stripped of any identifiable characteristics: stickers, little novelty license tags, distinctive bells, etc… If you want to shell out a little more money, you can have the bike professionally powder coated. After the bicycle has been sufficiently modified, it is recommended that you wait a sufficient amount (several months) before reselling, after which you can use standard venues: asking friends, organizing a garage sale, selling at a swap meet, and so on…As well as making flyers to post locally on street corners with a phone number…You may also want to (albeit the additional risk) make a posting on various online bicycle classifieds sites (just type in ‘used bicycle classifieds’ into a search engine). You may also want to ‘strip’ the bike and sell the parts individually: pedals, seat, wheels, etc… Obviously the amount that you are selling the bike for will depend on the brand/type of bicycle that you got, and once again you can check the retail price online and set your own price accordingly. Even after the cost of spray paint, bolt cutters, and transportation is subtracted, you should still make a pretty good profit . _________________________________________________________________________________ Replies: You missed one huge step. You have to scrape off(or atleast make it unreadable) the serial number which is usually on the bottom of the frame in the middle of where your crank sits. Spray paint won;t help cover it since its engraved. If you don;t take care of the number and the kid had the number written down or registered with the police station, you;ll be screwd if your seen trying to sell it or if your rididng it _________________________________________________________________________________ *slaps forehead* Yes, you are absolutely correct, you should render the serial unreadable (filing it down perhaps), the only downfall is that if a careful potential buyer notices that a serial number has been tampered with he will suspect that the bike has been stolen (whether he'll care or not is another question), while on the other hand, if the serial number is intact he will not know that the bike has been stolen, and so no suspicion has been raised... Yet experience has shown that few people look at the serial number in the first place...

__________________________________________________________________________________________ _ +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++ Y. VENDING MACHINE COIN SCAM +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++ __________________________________________________________________________________________ _ Posted by: blade20 ok i see alot of stuff about stuffing the coin return wih tissue's.. pretty good idea but you have to stuff a ton in there to make it tight, then it takes for ever to try to poke it out with wires and crap.. HERE IS HOW TO DO THIS QUICK AND EASY __________ 1, GET YOUR HANDS ON SOME FOAM SEALER (CHEAP) YOU CAN GET IT PRETTY MUCH ANY WHERE. 2, YOU NEED A COAT HANGER OR ANY TYPE OF STRONG WIRE. 3, YOU NEED TO GET A HOSE TO ATTACH TO THE FOAM SEALER (I USE THE HOSE OFF THE FIX-A-FLAT STUFF) 4, YOU CAN QUICKLY WALK UP TO A VENDING MACHINE PUT THE HOSE UP THE COIN RETURN SLOT AND GIVE A 2 SECOND SQUEEZE. 5, YOU ARE GOING TO WANT TO TAKE THE COAT HANGER AND BEND UP SO YOU CAN PUT THAT UP THE COIN RETURN ALSO, MAKE SURE YOU HAVE STUCK THE HOSE UP FAR ENOUGH SO IT DOESNT FOAM INTO THE COIN DROP PART, AND GIVE YOUR SELF ENOUGH ROOM SO YOU CAN LEAVE A PIECE OF THE WIRE STICKING OUT SO THAT YOU CAN GET YOUR HANDS ON IT.. 6, THE FOAM WILL BE STRONG ENOUGH TO HOLD 2 WEEKS WORTH OF COINS, WHEN YOU COLLECT GIVE THE WIRE A STRONG, STEADY PULL AND IT WILL SLIDE OUT.. IF YOU PUT TO MUCH FOAM UP THE SLOT IT WONT COME OUT ALL TOGETHER, YOU WILL HAVE TO PULL IT DOWN AND BRAKE IT UP WITH YOUR FINGERS.. 8, CONGRADULATIONS YOU HAVE JUST PULLED OFF A VERY EASY, AND QUICK SCAM. HIT A COUPLE VENDING MACHINES A NIGHT.. ROTATE FROM VENDING MACHINE TO VENDING MACHINE, IF YOU ARE DOING THIS TO THE SAME MACHINE YOU WILL BE CAUGHT. ****QUICK HINTS**** - MAKE SURE TO MAKE THE WIRE STRONNG SO WHEN YOU PULL IT, IT WILL PULL THE SEALER WITH IT.. I MAKE A CROSS TYPE SYMBOL WITH IT AND STICK IT IN THE SLOT, I ALSO LEAVE A LITTE HOOP FOR ME TO PULL ON..

SIDE VIEW TOP VIEW ___ ___ \/ \/ \/ \/ \/ } || /\ -/\ THIS ISNT ONE OF THEM POST'S OF WILL THIS WORK? IT DOES WORK!! I USE IT AND FIGURE I WOULD LET PEOPLE IN ON IT.. SO HAVE FUN AND GET SOME CHANGE.. __________ OK ITS CALLED FOAMSEALER.. NOT CAULK, NOT GLUE, NOT CEMENT.. ITS A PETTY HARD FOAM WHEN IT DRIES.. IT EXPANDS IN TE COIN RETURN SLOT AND WEDGES IN THERE.. IT WILL COME OUT, JUST MAKE SURE YOU HAVE A COATHANGER IN THERE REAL GOOD.. BEND IT ALL UP IN THERE SO THE FOAM SEALER FOAMS AROUND IT.. IT WILL COME OUT TRUST, ME I HAVE DONE THIS... _________________________________________________________________________________ Replies: I havn't tried this and i have no reason to try. But i have used expanding gap fillers for lots of tasks and the shit sticks like glue. I really can't see it pulling out via a piece of wire real well. The large surface area it's adhered in the coin slot would make it difficult to remove remotely intact. But if you have tried this and it works then i will believe you. The first time i used this stuff was filling cavities during a car audio setup and i neglected to follow the part that said, use gloves and avoid skin contact. Shit that stuff is hard to get off. I have also used it to dampen the sound from an alarm box and it does a fairly good job of keeping the sucker quiet.

__________________________________________________________________________________________ _ +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++ Z. Free Gas???? +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++ __________________________________________________________________________________________ _ Posted by: clickergod

i havent tried this but im wanting some thought on this ive been thinking of ways to get free gas but look like im just buying it from the pumps knowing you can only get gas when the pumps been activated ive been trying to think of ways to get around that and came to a conclution THE PLAN set up a pump in your car thats the same power as the pump at the gas station have a hose just big enough for the gas nossle from the pump to slide into and create a good seal as not to leak now in my town theres a small gas station thing that you can only buy gas with a credit card SO i say go to this gas station at night and turn on the pump and set up your system and turn on your pump and pump your set lets say $2.00 in gas now in theory the pump you have set up in your car will keep the gas pump running since its the same power or stonger then the gas pump so what do you think is it worth a try? _________________________________________________________________________________ Replies: just siphon gas from cars in the parking lots. gas stations have surveillance cameras and will get your license plate number. _________________________________________________________________________________ and another thing......they monitor the amount of gallons you put in the tank so that would make it so that you would need to fill the tank in the car with gas when the gas is in gallons which means its gonna be alot of gallons...thus making it just more money _________________________________________________________________________________ No it won't work. I won't go in to great explanation but the gas pump in the bowser has a strong shut off valve for safety reasons. If you try attaching a pump to the nozzle and the bowsers internal pump is operating, you may pump the gas quicker but it will still register on the total price of the gas. If the internal pump is NOT operating, the vacume of your pump will do nothing to pump the gas, if anything you might damage the regulator. The easiest way of stealing gas is to go to the hole in the ground where the tanker fills the underground tanks and pump from there. You may have to pick or cut a padlock with bolt cutters. If you can pick it all the better, you can lock it back up when finished and go back another time. _________________________________________________________________________________ Firstly it is highly unusual for a gas pump to be not manned by a person. The USA might be different but there are strict Occupational Safety and Hazardous Material laws for commercial gas outlets. They require a universal shut off near the console in case of emergency. If it's unmanned they must have an automated system which i don't have any knowledge on. Also if it is unmanned they most likely have a surveillance loop cameras. If you "hotwired" the bowser, it would still register the sale ie. How many litres were pumped and the price. You can't really extract fuel and bypass this.

I would forget about the bowsers unless you have a stolen credit card and a fake set of licence plates. As i said before, the best way to obtain the gas is from where the truck fills the underground tanks. Inside the the covers it WILL list the fuel type, ie Diesil, Unleadded, Premium etc. They have to list it for emergency purposes and also think about the retarded truck driver who delivers to multiple outlets. It will be listed to avoid diesil being pumped in the unleaded by mistake ruining the whole tank. Get an automotive pump thats runs off the cigarette lighter socket, 15 feet of garden hose and pop those covers. _________________________________________________________________________________ I agree with bang's idea, and would just like to add that certain gas stations here have gotten smarter about people poping those covers. No, not to steal gas, rather vandals that pour water and other contaminants down there. If you find more security than what bangbangbooty described, you are better off looking for another place. I would also like to second that the original idea would not work. Why it doesnt work I'm too damn lazy to look up because I really dont know too much, but I know for sure it won't due to the fact that the possibility of such a task would require the station to violate numerous safety requirements. _________________________________________________________________________________ what if you park a vehicle with a sort of "trap door" in the bottom of the floor over the tanks cover? unscrew the lid and drop a hose down connected to a pump in the car? I've seen it done in movies and TV shows, and since you can believe everything you see in the movies, you should be able to do this... _________________________________________________________________________________ quote: __________ I agree with bang's idea, and would just like to add that certain gas stations here have gotten smarter about people poping those covers. No, not to steal gas, rather vandals that pour water and other contaminants down there. If you find more security than what bangbangbooty described, you are better off looking for another place. __________ Yeah the covers will be locked, it's not as easy as just helping yourself to free quantities of gas. I mentioned a bit about the security but not alot because everywhere will be slightly different. quote: __________ You may have to pick or cut a padlock with bolt cutters. If you can pick it all the better, you can lock it back up when finished and go back another time. __________ There are a few 24hr stations around here with NO locks on the tanks and the console operator can't see you. But yes i agree it's certainly not the best method for getting free gas, but if you want to jack it from an unmanned gas station this would be about the best way of doing it. _________________________________________________________________________________ quote: __________

the idea on just dropping a hose into the tank is infact a very good idea but you would have to have one hell of a pump in oder to get like a full tank of gas in what 5 minutes at the most i mean you can only leave a car parked in the wierdest spot for so long anyone got any more ideas with the way gas prices are getting i think we all could use the ideas __________ while it won't get you free gas, it will save you money... pay with a roll of quarters (36 US/4 CAN). It will save you about 5% if my calcaultions are correct (which they normally arent). If you prefer a safer method, you can obtain a credit card branded with a gasoline company. i have a Exxon Mobil MasterCard www.getgasrebates.com which earns me 3% back in gas on gas purchases and 1% back on all other transactions. There are a few other companies with similar offers... _________________________________________________________________________________ quote: __________ Your gonna need something with more punch than a puny 12v pump to get any decent amount of gas out of the tanks anyway. __________ Really? The first one i found on a search http://www.pplmotorhomes.com/parts/rv-pumps-water/12-volt-water-pumps.htm It does over 3 Gallons or 10 Litres per minute at 12v. Mine does more and it's also intrinsically safe. I could fill my tank in around 4 minutes. So do you care to retract your last statement? Oh and due to some people not grasping things real quick, intrinsically safe means a device is fine to use around flammables. I would advise this if using pumps on petrol, but heh what would i know, this diploma in public safety and emergency management means nothing.

__________________________________________________________________________________________ _ +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++ AA. Travel Scams and Rip-Offs Continued +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++ __________________________________________________________________________________________ _ Posted by: dDIzzIEe Got the chance to see the show again (this time from the beginning), so here's a summary of the first half:

[My summary of the second half of Discovery Channel's Travel Scams & Rip-offs is here: http://www.totse.com/bbs/Forum7/HTML/003112.html ] *Nightclubs are hotbeds for property theft...(similarly to casinos I guess). An accomplice is used to distract a solitary female with flirtatious conversation, while another accomplice carefully swipes her unattended purse while she is distracted *Cab Driver Scams. Cab drivers can easily take advantage of naive travellers by taking them on elongated routes to hotels/other places that would normally take, say five minutes to get to, but with the cab driver's unique route more like 30minutes, thus letting the meter run up to a large sum... Another cab driver scam was to fabricate a bogus surcharge, the line used in the programme example was something like 'Yeah the airport has a $10 surcharge...' On a sidenote, you may be able to offer 'low rate' cab fare to travellers without actually having a licensed cab. Just approach people in need of a ride... And Finally, here are two more street scams that were discussed: *The Bait and Switch. In this scam a street vendor offers a cheap good (in the show example it was a digital camera for $25). Once a gullible buyer takes the lure, the seller then proceeds to place the camera in a box, then in a bag. Holding the bag, the seller ingages the buyer in conversation ("So what type of computer do you have to hook this thing up to..."). While this smalltalk is going on, an accomplice from behind the stand/wall/etc... carefully takes the bag holding the camera out of the seller's loose hanging hand, and replaces it with an identical bag/box with one catch...the camera is replaced with a brick of equal weight. The seller, as the conversation draws to a close, hands the bag over to the unsuspecting buyer who walks off with his $20 brick . Going back to the pick pocketing schemes, *It is an interesting idea to put up an official sign in the middle/on the side of a busy street which says 'BEWARE OF PICKPOCKETS' This sign, taking advantage of the human psyche, prompts the passerby's to feel the pockets where they have their valuables, so as to reassure themselves that they haven't been pickpocketed. Of course, this lets the observing pick pocketer see exactly WHERE the passerby's have their wallet.... __________ One last thing: This upcoming Sunday (03/09) there will be a show (once again on the Discovery Channel) titled 'Vegas Cheaters Exposed' at 8:00PM US EST, which might be worth watching

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BB. Blackmailing Stores For Profit +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++ __________________________________________________________________________________________ _ Posted by: bpyle As I was reading a previous post in the forum, I thought of a way to make tons of easy cash blackmailing retailers. The idea is to find someone under 18 years of age who looks much older than they really are. Basically, the idea is to get the minor to purchase booze or tobacco while being recorded on video. Once you are successful, you will have a recording of a minor purchasing tobacco or alcohol. You then enter the store with your partner and the video tape and tell them you'll give up the tape if they give you some cash. I would say $100.00+ would be fine. You could even have a mini player with you and play the tape right in their face. I heard that stores can lose their tobacco and/or their alcohol license if they are caught selling to minors. The cashier will also lose his/her job. I see no reason why they would refuse to pay $100.00+ to save their ass. I see no reason why this wouldn't work except that it might be illegal but the retailer would be getting in the most trouble anyways. The idea popped in my head while reading a post from confuzious. Here is the orignal post by him.

"I found a better way to get booze while being underage. I live maybe 500 feet from a liqour store. The clerks all KNOW that i'm underage, they know I have a novelty ID, they know that I just replace it every time I lose one or it gets taken. They know what these novelty IDs look like, so many people have used them there. They just won't work there. But it's so damn convenient. So I had an idea. I borrowed a buddy's video camera, and called up one of my friends who is 19, but looks over 21. We set up the camera, and had him buy. Sure enough, they didn't card him. Now he passed a note to the liqour store clerk, that said: "congratulations, you've just sold to a minor on videotape. Anyone who comes into the store and buys both starbursts and a snickers bar with their booze, don't card them, and this videotape will stay with me." Now that guy (who's working almost all the time) doesn't card anybody that buys both a snickers bar and starbursts with their booze. I REALLY hate age laws..." _________________________________________________________________________________ Replies: The only problem with the blackmail part(if you are in the US I don't know about anywhere else) is that you really can pull that off with mom and pop shops or really gullible chain store managers. The underage thing poses a problem. You see, if its an employee and the employer calls the cops, the employer usually won't get in trouble. They will fire the employee, the employee will have to pay the ticket, and when they call the cops and you stick around, you will get a ticket too. I used to manage a grocery store and somebody tried that on me. End result= -1 employee, punk went to jail for blackmail and being a minor in posession, and I got the beer back plus kept the kids money. I suggest if you do this you confront the employee who did it, after he/she gets off work. And don't let the manager know whats going on. _________________________________________________________________________________

Blackmail is a Felony in the USA, current extortion statues can get you 10-20 years. Liquor licenses cost a shit load in some cases municipalitys won't issue anymore, you have to buy one off another business. So you are really fucking with someone's life they might just kill you or vegetablize yah, a store that sells to minors is most likely just a front for other illegal activity.

__________________________________________________________________________________________ _ +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++ CC. Taking Advantage of Store Sales for Profit +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++ __________________________________________________________________________________________ _ Posted by: bpyle Every once in a while, a retail chain will have a great sale on items such as new dvd movies. Usually these sales are so good that they will be sold out within 3 days. Like for example, when the last star wars dvd first came out, it was on sale for 9.99 at toys r rus. The DVD was selling like hot cakes on ebay for $14-17.00. This is how the method works. First you will need a lot of money to buy a ton of dvds when the sale first starts. Most stores have a price match policy. You just drive at any store you can find which sells the dvd and show them the sale flyer and tell them to price match it. Assuming you have enough money, if you work hard at this for 3 days, you will end up with 100's of DVDs that you bought for 9.99. Keep doing this until you either run out of money, or the stores run out of stock. Once you are done buying, it's time to resale them right away. If you have enough money and transportastion, you can easily make over $1000 in a week. Edit: I was just thinking you could even make up a fake flyer from a not so popular chain. Simply set up a 1-800 line and while your friend stars near the phone, you are out scamming. You would put the 1-800 number on the flyer. You then get stores to pricematch for the sale items listed on the flyer you either made or edited.You could do this with just about any item. _________________________________________________________________________________ Replies: I was thinking something along the lines of a DVD scam, like the ones in those magazines where you get the 49 cent DVDs or whatever, but those ads have the catch of having to buy extra DVDs at full price eventually. So what I just do is buy five 49 cent DVDs, and pay the shipping and handling, and they'll send them to me at a BS address that's actually my drop location. I pick up the DVDs, take them to the local CD/Game Exchange

(popular store in SE Ohio, actually) and that's that, I usually end up $30-$40 profit, and I'll end up doing this about once a week. Damned fools never learn.

__________________________________________________________________________________________ _ +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++ DD. Small Money Making Scams? +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++ __________________________________________________________________________________________ _ Posted by: Tankerguy Does anyone know any small money making scams, they have done, thought of or anything like that? if so please post. thanks _________________________________________________________________________________ Replies: Burn and sell ps2 games. Works like a charm in school because most people don't want to spend 50-80 bucks on a new ps2 game when they can get it for 20-30 bucks. _________________________________________________________________________________ WHy not pull the Canadian quarter scam like jackallen mentioned a while back? For every 7 American dollars you take to canada, they'll give you nine dollars canadian (I figured this one out earlier using prices on the backs of books)...basic idea...take your X multiple of seven to Canada, exchange it for canadian quarters or dimes, spend the quarters in VMs and collect american quarters, and use the dimes from 1996-2000 in coinstar machines... _________________________________________________________________________________ if you live in a tourist heavy are like Washington DC or NY thn get a shitload of those free things to do pamphlets and then see them to ppl getting off the tour bus for 2 to 3 dollars each _________________________________________________________________________________ You could always join http://partners.thepickshop.com _________________________________________________________________________________ i know a great idea( i diddnt think of it, someone told me about it). all you need is a roll of quarters, so you can get a feel of the weight, some sand or something that will creat enough weight and some paper quarter rolls. first put one quarter all the way at one side. then fill it tightly with sand, which should create enough weight to simulate quarters. if not, use cement or something else that is cheap. then put a quarter on the end. now you will have a quarter on each end so theyll think its full of quarters, but its only 50 cents. i cant remember, but i think there is 20 bucks in a roll of quarters, so you just made approximately $19.50 per roll. take about 10-20 of these rolls to a bank. instant cash. BOOYA! i dunno, i just wanted to type the word booya. heh. booyah. dont trust me on this though, i havnt tried it. my friend said he did it and made almost 400 dollars by using 20 rolls of "quarters" at a bank. i trust him, but this is at your won risk. if you get cought somehow, your screwed. _________________________________________________________________________________ If you want fast cash, heres how u do it. Just go to kmart or giant or any other big store and look for receipts on the ground. once u find one, locate the most expensive item on the list and go in the store, get it, then walk 2 the

front and return the item, just like u bought it. they will give u cash for it. u can even do this with receipts that u have at home that u actually bought stuff w/. just go 2 the store and return somethin. this has always worked 4 me. _________________________________________________________________________________ I was thinking that you could go on ebay and find items listed on the receipt you found then buy them. Since you can buy certain items for a lot cheaper on ebay, you can return the item and make a decent profit. This is definitely the safest way to do this. I don't think you could really get into trouble doing this.

Another scam I just thought of: I just thought of a good way to save money. First you go on ebay and find a certain item that is selling for a lot cheaper than walmart wants. 2: buy the item 3: Return the item at walmart. Most of the time they will give you store credit if you don't have a receipt. 3: Use the store credit to buy items that are hard to find cheap like cigs and alcohol. This would work but i'm not sure if it would be worth the hassle. I think that electronics would work good for this scam. I noticed that many of the electronics at walmart cost way more than ebay. _________________________________________________________________________________ heres an idea..... me and my brother went to Meijers one day and were lookin at the sporting good section. Its right by the doors and the doors do not have Censors. We pocketed 100 dollar binoculars, and stuffed 120 dollar baseball bats down our pant legs (we wore real baggy pants). Then we went to the next Meijers 2 cities over and returned them. We got in store credit since we didnt have a reciept. We got some shit for the amount we got on our in store credit and got the reciept for our items. We returned them later in the week and got straight up cash back. Its priceless, the greatest and funnest way of scamming, in my oppinion... Or just smash a car window, steal the radio and other belongings, and run home. Pawn that shit, get money.....easy. _________________________________________________________________________________ You know how sometimes construction sites have these large spools of wire sitting around? This stuff is worth lots of money if it's the right kind of wire. You want solid copper wire. Simply steal the spool, gut down the rubber and sell it for scrap copper. I know someone who did this and made over $1000 just from 2 spools. EDIT: Don't forget to steal any valuable tools while you are at it. Contractor grade tools sell good on ebay. _________________________________________________________________________________ stuffing rolls of coins with anything other than coins is stupid and you will get caught. they do have cameras, remember, and most banks will not take coins unless you have an account with them. my coin scam is the most profitable thing ive done aside from selling lockpicks. it takes a while to find places to get rid of them, but once you have the locations down, you can bring in $1000 or so at coinstar machines each month alone. not too much money, but great for extra spending cash to suplement a normal "job"...

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+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++ EE. Fast, easy, free money. [Picking up Drive-Thru Change] +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++ __________________________________________________________________________________________ _ Posted by: Ironz Yesterday I decided to treat my mom to a meal at Jimboy's. We went through the drive-thru, and as I was recieving my change back, the cashier dropped several coins. There was no one behind me, so I opened the door to retrieve my change, when I noticed a lot more laying around. I picked up all the dimes, nickels, and quarters. I did a count when I got home and recieved $4.35 total. That payed for half of the Jimboy's meal itself. I had a hunch, and decided to drive around to all the local drive-thru fast food resturants. From six different places, I found over $20. And this is just one night. It took less than an hour. The downside? Some coins get grease, oil, and food on them. _________________________________________________________________________________ Replies: Throw a party and have the chiars or couch coushins set low. AT THE END youll find more change! _________________________________________________________________________________ I have done something like this during school when I forget money for lunch. I would just look around the floor and find about a dollar or then I would look in the vending machines to see if anyone left their change in the money return. This way I don;t have to pay for my lunch, Which is very expensive at my school.

__________________________________________________________________________________________ _ +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++ FF. Travel Scams & Rip-offs {Discovery Channel show summary} +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++ __________________________________________________________________________________________ _ Posted by: dDIzzIEe Last Monday (03/03), there was a television programme on the Discovery Channel about Travel Scams/Rip-offs (particularly in the Las Vegas area).

I only caught the second half hour of the show, and haven't had the chance to post a couple highlights until now, but here it is...a few interesting techniques discussed on the show. *The Fanny Pack Pick Pocket Technique was really ingenious. Naturally, this scam targets tourists with fanny packs hung around their waists, walking on busy streets. The pickpocket stands in the street, perhaps in front of a building, posing as a survey taker, with a clipboard . The pickpocket, upon spotting a tourist with a fanny pack walking along the sidewalk towards him, approaches the tourist and tells him that he is conducting some survey, or perhaps a contest for free car giveaway, etc... There are three objectives: 1)Obviously, to get the victim's attention, aka actually getting him to stop. 2) Holding the clipboard up close to the victim's face, so as to obstruct his view of his fanny pack 3)While holding the clipboard with one hand and talking/distracting the victim, the pick pocket uses his second (free) hand to slide open the zipper of the fanny pack and quietly take out the valuables, and ideally dissapear into the crowd. *Another demonstration that caught my eye was basically your standard pick pocketing operation...with a distraction/pickpocketing, but what was interesting was the elaborateness of the scheme. Basically, an accomplice of the pickpocket poses as a street performer (a street magician on the show), but the main point is to 1) create a distraction, and 2)draw a medium sized group of people together. While the accomplice is thus distracting the audience, the pickpocket subtly takes whatever he can slip out of people's purses, bags, backpacks, etc... Of course, it is not necessary to have the street performer in on it, one can simply take advantage of the crowds drawn by a legitimate perfomer. Or, particularly in Las Vegas, outdoor night shows, such as the various spectacles numerous hotels put on, are an ideal time for the pick pocket: darkness, loud noises, lots of people... Moving on to the inside of the Casino.... *Quarter Cup Casino Scam: This scam requires two people, and is conducted as follows: A solitary slots player is spotted with a full cup of quarters. An accomplice subtly drops a quarter and calls it to the attention of the avid slots player, "Excuse me, ma'am, I think you dropped a quarter." The accomplice then walks off, and while the slots player bends down to retrieve the fallen coin, the other accomplice, coming up from behind the person bending over, simply takes the cup full of quarters, and departs rather quickly...

*Stealing Chips: A basic swiping of chips, in which the thief comes up to a blackjack table or such, with a coat hanging over one arm, leaning slightly over the table, in close proximity to another player's chips. With nimble fingertips reaching out from under the coat hanging over the arm, the thief swipes a few chips at a time, and then moves on to another table... *Stealing Purses: Basically the same idea as stealing chips, except this time an unminded purse sitting on an empty chair next to an enthralled gambler is slyly stolen... Personally, I would recommend leaving the casino immediately after one of the above acts, because there are cameras/ plainclothes officers in casinos.

Finally, a scam which sometimes manifests itself (wasn't talked about on the tv programme) is when you are watching a show and a member of the audience (particularly female) gets asked to come on stage (as oft happens in Las Vegas magic shows). She will undoubtedly leave her purse behind, and as long as she is alone with no spouse....simply take the purse and exit the dark showroom. Also, as I watched this 4days ago my memory may be a bit fuzzy, and in case someone here watched the first half hour I would appreciate a posting of a summary of that portion Finally, here are a few links regarding Traveller scams: http://www.ourreallybigadventure.com/Beforegoing/scam.html http://www.ago.state.mo.us/travel.htm http://www.travelaei.com/travel_scams.htm and http://www.nolo.com/lawcenter/ency/articl e.cfm/objectid/AF821737-3F33-4667B6D9EF2A30DD814D/catID/6DC6B659-2F78-4D1B-92E624900C43F3D0

__________________________________________________________________________________________ _ +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++ GG. Dumpster Diving +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++ __________________________________________________________________________________________ _ Posted by: Ironz Do you guys go dumpster diving at all? Have any links about how to do it? What kinds of places do you dive at? What do you look for? Do you dive for food? I went diving the other day at the back of a thrift store and picked up a couple computers which work fine, but they're over twenty years old. IBM 3270 mainframe terminals. _________________________________________________________________________________ Replies: A personal favourite is diving in the recyclables dumpster behind bookstores...boxes of magazines and books (all with the covers torn off). Another place includes the recyclables dumpster behind Music/video stores, they often have old giant cardboard pinups, which can then be resold at a swap meet for a modest income... _________________________________________________________________________________

i wrote a simple how too in DIY. yes i know in the title of the post its DYI. http://www.totse.com/bbs/Forum20/HTML/000306.html i like to go to radio shack. they got some neato stuff in there. in fact after i write this post im going. i like to find cables or displays. heres a secret, well not realy a secret but not alot of people know. if the cost of the repacking is more than the item is worth they toss it. like say joe shmoe comes in and buys a cheap pair of head phones for 5 bucks. he dosnt like it and takes it back. now to radio shack, they apply the equation. if A, the price of the item is more than B, the price of the restock they C, toss it. so the majority of times u find loads of cords, diskets, displays and shit. places like comp USA throw out entire monitors and printers. ive got a 50 dollar power base that ive been using for years. its only got a small crack in it. ive gotten from just comp USA, a monitor, a printer, a scanner, 2 mice, software, cables, a huge flight sim controler, and much more other trivial stuff. _________________________________________________________________________________ Dumpster diving iz one of mine favorite pasttimes, been doing it for years. You never know what you may findover the years i'd found books, furniture, unopened food, booze,smokes, clothes, TV's, credit reports, a gun (serious- i got rid of it being it's New York and all), etc. Surprised I haven't found a body yet! Can't wait until spring break then all the rich college kids throw all their stuff. Always get computers too and the dumbasses are too dense to even erase their hard drives!! Happy hunting, there's gold in them dumpsters! _________________________________________________________________________________ This is a fairly good idea. I used to do a similar thing with beer bottles. Since here in Michigan the bottle deposit is .10 and in Indiana there is no deposit but the barcodes and bottle appearance is exactly the same. Since I live only about an hour from the Indiana border. I would once in a while when I was broke drive to Indiana and load my car up with beer bottles and return them at various stores here in Michigan. After the gas expense, I would profit about $50 for only a few hours worth of work. I don't do this anymore since i'm an adult and can make more money now but this is a good idea if you are a poor teen looking for some quick extra cash and you have transportation. The best places to loot bottles in non bottle deposit states are bar dumpsters. They were literally filled up with bottles. Michigan also recently passed a law making this a crime. One tip if you do decide to loot dumpsters. Make sure not to loot dumsters where there is a likelyhood of biohazardous materials. It would suck to get poked with an AIDS infected needle while looting dumpsters. _________________________________________________________________________________ Apparently I should clarify something for some of you. It is important to clean up the mess you made while diving. Storekeepers don't mind if you leave evrything how it was when you came. But when shit is all over the place, they get pissed. A RadioShack manager found me diving and told me this. _________________________________________________________________________________ Idea! *ping* Buy something you want, then return it. Browse around the dumpsters every night for about a week and it just might be there! If not, it didn't cost a penny and there's nothing suspicious about returning something.

__________________________________________________________________________________________ _ +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++ HH. How to Sell and Copy Games +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++ __________________________________________________________________________________________ _ Posted by: tH3_bR00kMaN What you will need: 1. A DVD writer that writes DVD-R/DVD-RW format discs!!! 2. A computer that can handle it (P-3 at about 500 or so mhz with 128 ram should keep you safe but you can go lower) 3. Alcohol 120% and Fargo 4. About 450$+ to buy the drive and some DVDs (they are expensive) and to rent the games 5. A membership to blockbuster or somewhere else you can rent the games from, or a broadband connection 6. Alot of free time 7. Some freinds that are in school and can front you the money (they will sell them for more than they paid you) 8. A hard drive with at least 4.7 GB free space Ok, now that you know what you need here's how to do it: go out and get a dvd writer (the new phillips internal is best so far) and buy some dvds, bulk is definatly best and make sure they are dvd-r and can be writen at 4x speed! Install it download alcohol and fargo. If you own a playstation2 or sexbox try copying your first disc from your dvd writer to your hard drive and then patching the file with fargo and then burning it. If that worked your good to go, if not you just wasted alot of money. I would go into further detail but i have to go get drunk and party at this girls house soon but it really isent that hard and you should be doing some additional research also. Ok anyways find some close freinds that have some cash and that you trust. explain to them what they need to do and make them front you the money for the games-ALWAYS. Start at around 17$ per game and shortly after that go down to 15$ or slightly lower, as they will soon be asking you to lower the price so they can make more money (Belive it or not they will be able to sell some for as much as 30$!) How not to get caught: Tell them not to reveal that you are the one doing all this. if you want to be really safe sell them through one more person and have him distribute them to the sellers so if somthing does happen you can back out and trash all your stuff and format your hard drive before the heat gets to you, if somthing like this does happen chances are you will get caught though if you are around in school while selling. If you are still under 18 you dont have much to worry about so make the best of it. Do not sell them yourself. Do not get lazy, remember that a big ass fine and confiscation of your machine and probly time in county are right around the corner if you get lazy and dont take precautions and keep close tabs on people involved and keep your eyes open and know who is buying the games. dont let things get out of control and take it slow.

thats about all i can think of for now, if you disagree with this by all means tell me why, if you have experience in this and i missed somthing tell me. If you are sick of companys trying to get games out before xmas instead of finish them (you remember the "cant save" glitch in that racing game a while back) definatly cheak out world media protest day, Recdude made a text for it- http://www.totse.com/en/media/the_media_industrial_complex/ worldmediaprotest168361.html , and the thread for it is in generalities. _________________________________________________________________________________ Replies: quote: __________ What do you mean, by not selling your self? Well yes it is illegal, how would you possibly get caught? For all they know, you are making backup discs for your frineds, who told you they had the original CD, they just wanted a copy so it wouldn't get scratched.. why all the secrecy? making and selling acid, I wouldnt want that connected to me.. but burning games? __________ I meant not selling them directly to the people who will be playing them. Why all the secrecy? You would be ingrorant not to see how big something like this could get. once you get enough money you could buy more equipment and turn out more and more games. at 15& a game why would someone want to but it in a store for 60$?? On How not to get cought I was saying how to be as safe as posible. Oh yeah and trust me, that "back-up copy" shit doesent work. _________________________________________________________________________________ You need a modchip to play playstation2 games and xbox games.However, playstation games and pc games are the way to go...and divx.You can also sell divx dvd rips.That's a good way to get the money for a dvd burner.Search on google for gordian knot for the program to do that.. _________________________________________________________________________________ Well, if you are *really* into it, I suppose secrecy would be helpful. but I didn't get the impression you were starting a big counterfitting factory in your basement. I sort of thought that you would just burn one or two copies a day.. Websites are not allowed to allow Roms for download by court order, but some are still out there because they have huge disclaimers "You are only allowed to continue if you have legally boughten the game" So ya, most of the time the "backup" thing would work. And, what kind of new equipment do you need? Just out of curiosity.. I figure you have a computer with internet connection, DVD burner. the only new "equipment" would be DVD's, right? _________________________________________________________________________________ If I had the money maybe I would be doing it. I know for a fact that someone could make ALOT of money quick doing this, but to get "really into it" you would use most of that money to improve your operation. About 3,000$ will get you a stand alone 7 drive tower, you could obviously make alot more with that and not tie-up your computer. If, after that, your demand gets bigger you could get a couple more or even an automatic loading one so you dont have to be there to change the disks (there usually around 10,000$) Of course websites arnt allowed to have the games for people to download, Get direct connect and share some files to get you into the game hubs and you can find anything you are looking for (some games before they even go on sale) but they are huge files and it would be better to get a few memberships to different blockbusters or some other places (dont just go in and rent 50 games at once) Oh yeah and you can get 500 DVD-Rs for 1,175$ or 100 for 255$

__________________________________________________________________________________________ _ +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++ II. How to start a riot +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++ __________________________________________________________________________________________ _ Posted by: fallenhero Starting a Riot. I would like to explain in my own words and thoughts on how to incite a riot in a crow of 50 or more people. Before i start this i would like to state. -Police are your enemy. They carryy rubber bullets, oh and guns that send them into your backside as you run.. -Make sure you or your cohorts nevver expose yourselves during the acts before the riot. -Try not to get caught inside the chaos, you could get injured, or even killed! Ahh with that said, let me begin. You all have seen riots on tv started by angry sports fans, drunk idiots, gangs, whatever. Well you see, what makes people get into this state of pure chaos is that they feel powerful in groups. A group of violent people with a single cause will always feel invincible. Step 1. Inciting the Riot Get about 5 or 6 people/friends/parents whatever. Strategically place them around the targeted crow of people. They must all do certain actions at the right time or it will not work. They should all be placed near easilly visible groups or people (gangs, racial groups) now there are many things that one can do to piss off a large group of people, thats the easy part. Heres some suggestions: Have someone enter one group and throw stones or something hard at some people that are nearby. Have someone else do it from the other side at someone near that person. Get two people and have them run into people push people run away, thats pretty ballzy though.. Just do anything that will get people to fight normally but repeatedly. Step 2: Taking care of your Riot. This is where it gets interesting, as people are starting to fight and it gets more intense you have to do things to get the people pumped, feel more powerful. Turn over a car or something...maybe throw some smoke bombs. Small explosions maybe? As the riot rages on, get out as soon as possible and make sure everyone you brought is accounted for. Sit back and snicker. Lather. Rinse. Repeat. _________________________________________________________________________________

Replies: quote: __________ better yet have someone place a object that could be mistaken for a bomb in a crowded area like a concert then scream bomb as loud as possible everyone will run around like crazy imagine the damage that they will do pushing, shoving, trampling as a stampied of hundreds of people run out of the place __________ At my work we have discussed renting a Ryder truck and parking it next to the Hydrogen tank and watching peoples reactions. _________________________________________________________________________________ You could always find a crowd near a bunch of tall buildings and go to the roof of one nearby (not right there though). Throw some rocks, with luck people will start fighting thinking it's someone else doing it. If not, be sure you're ducked down well.

__________________________________________________________________________________________ _ +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++ JJ. Playstation Scam +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++ __________________________________________________________________________________________ _ Posted by: bpyle This is a fairly easy scam to pull off and if done correctly, it will net you $50.00+ per scam. This can be done over and over as long as you don't target the same store frequently. First you go on ebay and buy a broken playstation (they usually go for $50-90). After you receive the broken playstation go to walmart and buy a brand new one for $200.00. You may want to buy the latest model ps2 on ebay so the chance of detection is low. Now that you have both playstations, take them both apart and switch the guts (everything inside the playstation) Now you have the guts from the broken playstation inside the brand new casing. The old, used up playstation now appears to be brand new from the outside. Take the playstation back to walmart and give them some bs story like it doesn't work. Now that you took the broken playstation back to walmart and received the full $200.00 refund, turn around and sell the brand new playstation with an older casing on ebay. This should sell on ebay for $135+ or you can keep the playstation for yourself _________________________________________________________________________________ Replies:

i have even a better idea..go to a place that mods ps2's, they usually sell clear cases for ps2's..get ur ps2 switched..and then fill the old black one with shit..like old compuyter hard drives...whatever..secure them down..and make sure they weigh the same..jsut say that u got it as a gift, but u have too much homework so ur parents are making u return it..boom u jsut got a free ps2. minus the cost of the cool case it now resides in _________________________________________________________________________________ Theres a warranty sticker on the crease of the opening. if the sticker is removed, or ripped its voided. so you would have to open the case and remove the parts WITHOUT ripping or taking off that sticker. thats a slight set back, but easily avoided. and also, on most things (like a ps2) the screws are under the grip things, just pry them up with small screwdriver or something and you are free to go _________________________________________________________________________________ If someone wanted to do this, would they have to switch ALL the inside parts. Most internet faq do dont show you hot to take apart the bottom, just show you how to get to the lens to fix.......so you could legally buy broken ps2s and fix em and sell em for more on ebay....if you are going to do this scam you might as well do this, am i wrong?

__________________________________________________________________________________________ _ +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++ KK. Car Shopping +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++ __________________________________________________________________________________________ _ Posted by: rabbitsfoot420 If you're really really bored, or you really really need money. My suggestion is Car shopping. Of course, I'D never ever do anything like this... but someone out there might want to... Anyway, How you do it: Go to a LARGE parking lot, like a mall, or a big company, make sure there's a lot of cars, but not many people. Find an old looking car, (the newer one usually have alarms.) Make sure it's not too Ghetto though, because if you do get caught, you're a lot more likely to get in hurt than in trouble... unless you'd rather be dead than have the cops on your ass. If it's unlocked, just open the door, and act like it's your car (if you're too young to drive, and look too young, bring someone older with you OR open the passengers side door, not the drivers). Play it casual, get in, or just lean in and act like you're looking for something out of YOUR car. Carry a bag. Take anything you find interesting, Cash, CD Players, CDs, anything at all. Grab it, shut the door, put the stuff in the back (quickly but in a non-suspicious way) and walk away. Make sure you leave the car exactally the way it was. If you're really unsure, wear gloves. But that can look sneaky if it's warm out. Remember, that's YOUR car, when you're done, walk back towards the building, after all, you wouldn't just leave your car there, and walk away. So be sure you

walk back inside. That's why you have the bag. Not a plastic bag, and nice back pack, or side bag, so that if you pass the person who's car that happens to be, they won't know you have their stuff. Two Rules: 1. DON'T get caught 2. If you DO get caught, you didn't hear this from me. Good Luck! _________________________________________________________________________________ Replies: One thing I suggest is to go for a car someone has just parked. Obviously wait a minute or two, but this way youre less likely to have the person catch you. That is if youre at a mall, or some place someone would take their time at.

__________________________________________________________________________________________ _ +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++ LL. EBAY LOOP HOLE +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++ __________________________________________________________________________________________ _ Posted by: qwerty316 I put it back, What i did was wrong by posting then removing, I WILL NEVER DO THAT AGAIN (unless its just plain stupid) http://uweb.superlink.net/jason/ebay/page1.html I didNOT write this

eBay loophole-- there is an easy way to win any eBay auction for almost no money. I just had it happen to me, and I'm very unhappy with the results of my lost time, and eBay charging me fees that I now have to try and get retracted. While in my case, I had a reserve, many auctions out there do not, and eBay encourages no reserve with their 'hot item' section. To make matters worse, if you start your item off at a reasonable price, you'll get very few bids, and thus less people watching it during the final minutes of the auction. Normally, on eBay, the process works like this: You place a max bid for the item. Say the item is an antique vase. You like it, think its worth $100. Bidding opens at $2. You place a bid of $100. eBay gives you the opening bid at $2. You are protected up to $100.

Another bidder. Bidder 2 comes along and he wants the vase for $50., so he bids that amount. Bidder 1 is still the high bidder, at $55 ($50 + $5 increment). So Bidder 2 comes back and bids again, this time at $105. Viola! Bidder 2 is now winning at $105 (he met your high bid of $100 + the $5 increment. More bids. Bidder 3 thinks the vase is worth $125, and bids that amount. He becomes high bidder with a price of $110. Bidder 4 thinks the vase is worth $130, and becomes high bidder posting that amount. The auction continues in this way until the end. Usually, in the last minutes, the bidding gets very heated, and the vase may end up selling for $600., which is close to what your local antique shop might charge. This is how the scam works:

Same vase, opens at $2. Only this time, Bidder 1 bids $1000. The opening bid still shows only $2. He immediately follows with a false identity Bidder 2, at $990. Bidder 1 becomes high bidder at $995. Since this is more than you can get a similar product locally, and in a price range the average user is not going to spend lightly, there are no other bidders. Scam complete. 15 seconds before the auction ends, Bidder 2 rescinds his bid, the "high" price drops back to the opening bid of $2, and Bidder 1 wins at that amount. Unless the seller has a substantial reserve to protect his investment (which is discouraged by eBay) he will be obligated to sell the vase for $2. If he does have a reserve, he doesn't have to sell, but he still owes eBay posting fees and the auction was a waste for him. For those of you who will say that the seller is not obligated to sell -- two things: Seller must first be aware he was scammed. Seller will likely end up getting neg feedback from scammer if he does not sell!

__________________________________________________________________________________________ _ +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++ MM. Got RTCW KEY THrough SE [social Engineering] +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++ __________________________________________________________________________________________ _ Posted by: qwerty316 i dont knwo if i shoudl brag about this,, but hell for all you guys knwo i just made this up!

(fictional strory DO NOT ATTEMPT, For Enteraimnet purpous only, i hold no responcyibilty for your actions) My FAKE STORY using Sociial Engerning

OPER: xxx RELAY xxxx DIALING xxx-xxx-xxxx RINGING 1 ... 2 ... THE FOR CALLING THE xxxxx STORE (HOLDING FOR ELECTRONICS) (HOLDING ...,. CALL TRANSFERRING TO ELECTRONICS (PLS PLACE RINGING 1 ... 2 ... 3 ... (PERSON HUNG UP) SR xxxx GA OR SK (REDIALING) (HOLDING FOR ELECTRONICS) (HOLDING ..., RINGING 1 ... 2 ... 3 ... 4 ... HI CAMERA AND SOUND (F) (M) HELLO GA USER: return to castle wofl lf einsietn enstein and when i got home i couol ldnt play it online because it was missing teh cd key, so i called custmor service and they said just to explain and that they wp ould have teh a new cd key from another return to castle wolfensiten game GA OPER: WELL U NEED TO BRING IT IN TO GET SREVICED OR REPLACED USER: OPER: GA USER: I did, and they didnt have abn ny instock so they just said that when they have ve one they will call me, and they did, and now its super hard for me to even move let alone talk, so i dont wanna GA OPER: UUH LOOKIG IN OUR STOCK RIGHT NOW TO SEE IF WE ACTUALLY HAVE THAT I SEE IT ON THE SHELF HERE AND WE HAVE SEVERAL COPIES ITS 299 99 GA USER: yes i need the cd key GA OPER: OK WELL UUH OH DEAR LETR ME T ME SEE HERE IM NOT SURE EXACTLY WHAT A CD KEY IS LETS SEE IF WE GOT UUH LET ME TAKE A LOOK HERE JUST A SECOND ONE OF THEM DOES HAVE A CD IN IT GOOD NOW DO U WANT ME TO LEAVE IT AT GUEST SERVCE THATS WHERE THEY DO USER: t OPER: EXCHANGES I CANT USER: hat would OPER: DO IT USER: be gr OPER: IN MY USER: ea OPER: DEPT GA USER: t, but i have been in an accadent where OPER: LARIGHTY ILL TAKE

USER: i cant OPER: IT UP USER: do shi OPER: THERE USER: t OPER: NOW USER: till i heal so i have no way there and my bro is at work, so if you could read the cd key that woudl be great GA OPER: CD KEY LETS SEE WHAT THE CD KEY IS IN THIS LITTLE FELLA WAIT A MINUT E TE HERE IM NOT SURE WHAT THAT IS IM TAKING A LOOK JUST A SECOND LET ME OPEN THIS AND SEE WHAT IT LOOK LIKE INSIDE WHERE WOULD I FIND THE CD KEY I DONT SEE IT ON HERE QQ G GA USER: in in the packageing somewhere , i dont really no cause mine didnt have one GA OPER: OH WAIT HERE IT IS "(BLANKED OUT" IS THAT IT QQ GA USER: NO thats not it at all, you knwo what i am just gonna go to teh store and speak with custmor service!!! SKSKSKSKKSKS __________ nice FICIONAL STORY

__________________________________________________________________________________________ _ +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++ NN. Counterfeiting(my tips) +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++ __________________________________________________________________________________________ _ Posted by: Deathrow588 There are quit a few posts about this, most doing the asking. So im going to tell a few things i have figured out.

Ok first go Here then search for pictures of the notes your country uses as currency. Collectors sites are good and if you want any good useable pics for Sterling[£] then ask,sorry i only know sterling sites by heart. Ok next either print one side of the note and the other side of the note or if you know how print the note out on either side of the paper. Then(if it was not to scale on the site which i doubt it would be then scale it up/down with Adobe which you could get from Kazaa)cut it out using a guilotine. You have a piece of normal printing paper with your selected currency printed in colour on it. Now put a tea bag in a mug and pour water in the mug. Let it stand for a few minutes and LEAVE THE TEA BAG IN! Then add roughly two table spoons of honey and stir untill the honey disolves i.e does not effect the viscocity of the liquid. Now, pour the liquid into a pan and put it on heat[the lowest] and then using tongs(or chop sticks) lower the 'note' into the liquid untill it is half submerged, take it out and immediately do the same with the other half, never fully submerging it. Then hold it over the pan, holding both ends horizontaly untill the excess liquid had spilt off then turn it over and do the same with the other side. Lay it on some kitchen paper and let it dry out. Now, when it is dry, fully submerge it in the liquid again, bring it out and hold both ends taught[tight] then move your hands up and down moving closer and closer. This basically scrunches it up and makes it much softer and smoother. IF you didnt understand that last part just do anything to make the paper smooth and soft and less crisp, like an old worn out note. Ok thats pretty much it. If the colour looks really unreal after the tea bag thing then try again with different quantities or even dont do it at all. Now i know alot of people will put this down probably witout even reading the whole thing or without trying it. And i dont really blame you. It is a personal method used by me Deathrow aka Josh(16 year old) so why beleive me?Dont. I coudlnt care less. I have used this before at a corner shop where i knew the didnt check notes too carefully and it worked. I handed over a fake £5 note and got £4.69 back in real money. Thats a profit. A little off side here: The security thread in notes(you know the line that shows up when you hold it up to light) is easy to re-creat. Just cut a very thin strip of tinfoil and put it between to peices of paper. Hold the ends of the paper tight and hold it up to light and you have a security thread. Getting it in to a notes is much harder and i tried it but didnt have the balls to attempt spending it. Ok this is my longest post ever on totse, which means there is soooo much here you can flame. Dont be too brutal im just giving some experience! _________________________________________________________________________________ Replies: scan a bill... bleach out a $1 bill, and print a 5 or 10 $ on it

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OO. Check Washing Tools +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++ __________________________________________________________________________________________ _ Posted by: Lokil Acetone, most widely used, is a highly volatile organic solvent used mainly as a hand-wipe solvent in cleaning applications. It is also a good drying agent for wet parts. But it will erase most inks from a stolen check without any noticeable effect. Reading the remarks on side of a can of Acetone, you will find out it effectively removes some greases, oils, waxes, and inks. It is commonly used to remove uncured fiberglass resins, varnish, and lacquer and may be useful for applications that require a highly volatile cleaner. Acetone may be applied by hand wipe or immersion in an unheated tank;

Benzene, Bleach, used in ever day cleaning in your home. Normally to whiten fibers in clothes washing. Carbon Tetrachloride, most widely used in carpet cleaning, Chloromice "T", a mild form of bleach, used normally in the socking of baby diapers, Fox "IT", used mostly with stamp collectors, Clear Correction Fluids, A high-performance eraser to erase everything from ballpoint pen ink, PPC and Diazo copy ink, to typewriter ribbon ink, drafting ink, and printed matter. __________ You can buy acetone at any personal home configuration type store. Under twenty for two quarts, methinks? All you do is let the sweet check soak in a small soap-dish amount for a few days. **Note - This will only work with ball-point ink** That's why I mentioned the other tools. To prevent being caught too early, make sure you re-write the check in the amount it was originally written for. That way when he/she balances their checking account all will seem well. My situation was a bit different because the girl I was seeing at the time had an agreement with a checking cashing clerk who we would cut some of the profits with. But for those of you that have options or juevos this is what you can do: 1) If you have the resources to make ID's at will, you can make up a fake name and with your picture on it. Write the check to that person and take it to the bank or origin. Or to your nearest supermarket. 2) If you are too amateur to step #1 write the check for the amount you think you can get away with. It truly depends on where you steal the check from. Hopefully you can steal a mortgage check or will say the hell with it and write it out for $5,000. Write the check out to you. Cash the check then call the DMV claiming you ID was stolen!

My girlfriend deposited a a large check into my checking account without telling me, thus I didn't know when to withdraw the funding. So the check was reversed and the cops inquired.

__________________________________________________________________________________________ _ +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++ PP. Robbery Scam +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++ __________________________________________________________________________________________ _ Posted by: NPerez I heard this on the radio a while ago Buy cheap tickets to a sports event or something similar and call a person and say ' You've won free tickets to ______ '. If they want them, send them the tickets in the mail. So now you know that there will be nobody home at the time of the event, giving you the perfect chance to go to their house and loot the fucking place. _________________________________________________________________________________ Replies: Risk Factor is fairly high. You would have to find a person who is sure to go to the event the tickets are for, as well as be sure that he will not give them to someone else, that no one else will be home, etc... _________________________________________________________________________________ Looting someone's else is always something that should be planned (if you don't want to get caught). Just study the house for a few days, see the habits, check which cars leave, and so on. Generally during the day is better as kids are at school and parents are at their jobs. Then put on some gloves, find a back entrance (choice of actual entry is really up to you, hypothetically I would prefer it to be "stealthy"), pick what you want in the house, then leave without a trace (minus your score). Being stealthy with everything is usually good, it's usually best to have everything covered, toque (no hair falling out), gloves (fingerprints), don't chew gum or anything that may be left behind, and probably take off your shoes as not to leave marks.

__________________________________________________________________________________________ _ +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++ QQ. airport scheme [stealing luggage] +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++ __________________________________________________________________________________________ _ Posted by: stevalkenieval I think it is possible to get to the baggage area of an airport without a ticket. Then you just grab some nice looking bags when they come out on the carousel(sp). _________________________________________________________________________________ Replies: Assuming the baggage stubs aren't checked by security guards before you are allowed to leave the area... Grabbing items randomly off the carousel, while there are many bags, may raise a slightly uncomfortable situation in which the real owner of the bag says 'hey that's my bag,' and you retort 'oh my fault, looks just like mine...' You may want to grab the last few bags when it's evident the real owner isn't there, of course this too has its drawbacks... And regarding your original question, yes, in most airports you can get to the baggage claim area without needing a ticket. _________________________________________________________________________________ if you are really gonna do this, i suppose the best idea would be to stand at the end of the loop, and grab the ones that are just about to go back into the building, because then obviously those people aren't there, or didn't see it... _________________________________________________________________________________ quote: __________ There are so many people there they wouldn't notice. And security doesn't check the stub on the bag. __________ This depends on the airport. _________________________________________________________________________________ yea, its pretty useless, not really useful either, because people just keep crappy clothes and stuff, but maybe, if your lucky, there would be something worth money _________________________________________________________________________________ You more than likely get "blindsided" by the owner of the baggage and the cops wouldnt do a thing to "him or her!" you on the other hand, well, ha ha , would probably have some explaining to do! If you are a US citizen , then ahve you ever heard of the Homeland Security Act? _________________________________________________________________________________ Think of it as a second-hand 'grab bag,' sure most of it will likely be clothing, but that can be washed and sold at garage sales, swap meets, second hand stores, worn yourself, etc...

__________________________________________________________________________________________ _ +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++ RR. Shortchange Scam, Version II +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++ __________________________________________________________________________________________ _ Posted by: Phlab I read this from a book excerpt. You go to a store... A gas station, for example. You get a 98 cent pack of gum. Pay for it with a 20 dollar bill You will receive 2 pennies, 4 ones, a five, and a ten. Pocket it all, but then pull out everything except for the ten. You then ask the clerk if you can get a 10 dollar bill from five ones and a five. Hand him the Five, and four ones you got as change from the gum as he hands you the ten. Tell him to count the money you handed him, just to make sure you didn't shortchange him. Obviously, he'll find out you shortchanged him a dollar. Now you comment that you are in a hurry. Give him back a ten, the pack of gum, and two cents (he'll already be holding the 4 ones and a five), and ask for your twenty back. Right now he'll see this on the counter: Four 1 dollar bills One 5 dollar bill One 10 dollar bill, 2 cents One pack of gum ------In his mind, he's got everything back. You still have 10 dollars in your pocket, which you got at the very beginning as change. Walk out of the store 10 dollars richer.

_________________________________________________________________________________ Replies: "You then ask the clerk if you can get a 10 dollar bill from five ones and a five. Hand him the Five, and four ones you got as change from the gum as he hands you the ten." i asume that this ten he hands you will be one out of the register. it may work but if you do get caught, you'll look like an idiot. _________________________________________________________________________________ I stand corrected. As for looking like an idiot, yes, you are one. That is the exact mental image you must project to the cashier. You must make him think you made that mistake because you are a total idiot, not a smart ass guy trying to scam his ass.

__________________________________________________________________________________________ _ +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++ SS. SIMPLE, but brilliant scheme! [grab-n-run] +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++ __________________________________________________________________________________________ _ Posted by: XcapuchiX ok listen up. i just did this and made about $2000 in merchandise, but you can make cash and merchandise also. you go into a large store, one that sells electronics, lets say you want a new car stereo deck that costs 500 bucks. you get the deck, go to the counter, buy it, and then go out to your car and put the deck inside. now go back into the store with just the receipt from the deck, and pick out another deck, identical to the one you just bought. now take it to the return counter and give them the receipt and BANGO you got the money back from the deck that you didnt even buy, hence a free deck. do this repeatedly and you can get merchandise and money, or just get whatever you want. just dont blow it up by doing it repeatedly in one store the dont know what hit em. _________________________________________________________________________________ Replies: we did a varient on this scam a while back, me and my mate. mate got this new car, had some borken cd changer in it. we bought a new one, installed it took the old one (same model) back for a refund.........they didnt know what hit em i bet _________________________________________________________________________________ If you're over 18, you can pull the renter's scam.

This simply involves one person spending, let's ssay, 800$ to rent an apartment, under an assumed name. You then have people contact you about renting the apartment (it's empty, remember) and they send you hundreds for a security deposit, and the first months' rent. Thousands of dollars profit. _________________________________________________________________________________ quote: __________ additionally, they make wonder why you buy an item and 5 minutes later you return it. also, they would see you leave with an item, come back into the store without it, and then appear at the CS desk with item in hand. you would have to wait a week or so (or atleast a few days) between when you buy and when you return... __________ This is why you do this at a large store, preferably one that has the return counter far away from the purchasing areas. When its real busy(around 5- 9) no one notices someone walking into the store, plucking something off a shelf just like anyone else and going to the return counter instead of the cash register. I am revising this tomorrow by trying to return the item I actually purchased and getting money for it, so I can just get pure profit cash instead of merchandise.. To do this you must wait at least a day after you have already purchased and returned something. _________________________________________________________________________________ You should really wait at least 3 or so days because receipts have the date and time on them. This means that they will know when you purchased the item. _________________________________________________________________________________ u can return dvd's that are still in their original packaging and since ur taking a freshy it works fine, yes the place where i've done this has a guy at the door but there is no stickers, if u can be smart or slick or whatever u wanna call it, blend into ur surroundings, don't make eye contact (y security guards at doors say hi to everyone,not to be nice rather to make eye contact) and basiclly enter the store undetected grab what u need and get to the return counter in a way that u basiclly appear out of nowhere it works. i've returned Massive boxs worth g's it works.

__________________________________________________________________________________________ _ +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++ TT. Recommended reading, and where to get it [book scams and scam books] +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++ __________________________________________________________________________________________ _ Posted by: dDIzzIEe Recommended Reading What follows is a list of a few books that should make for good reading and thus be if interest to those interested in the fine art of ‘screwing the system,’ you’ll notice that sometimes a brief summary is provided .

This was not posted in Printed Matter, as the post deals with books specific to Bad Ideas (and even more specifically scamartistry) as well as due to the fact that after the actual book list, I also included a summary of some of the most popular techniques of getting the books for free . Steal This Book Abbie Hoffman [The classic underground guide of the 70s, including a compendium of scams, instructions to make your own flipflops, etc… This book is available online at numerous locales such as http://www.eriswerks.org/steal.html ] Free Stuff : How Others Get Free Money, Booze, Gasoline, And Everything! John Green An excellent little guide outlining some common scams The Complete Idiot's Guide To Frauds, Scams, and Cons Duane Swierczynski Amazon has 36 sample pages available: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ tg/detail//0028644158/ref=lib_rd_ss/104-1968659- 2339914?v=glance&s=books&vi=slide-show#reader-link How to Become a Professional Con Artist Dennis Marlock Focuses on street scams… Rip-Off: A Writer's Guide to Crimes of Deception Fay Faron The ‘ten step program to planning a con’ is comical, albeit useful for the beginner… Art and Science of Dumpster Diving John Hoffman The classic guide to everyone’s favorite pastime Dumpster Diving: The Advanced Course : How to Turn Other People's Trash into Money, Publicity, and Power John Hoffman Gambling Scams: How They Work, How to Detect Them, How to Protect Yourself Darwin Oritz Scams From The Great Beyond : How To Make Easy Money Off Of Esp, Astrology, Ufos, Crop Circles, Cattle Mutilations, Alien Abductions, Atlantis, Channeling, And Other New Age Nonsense Peter R. Houston S(h)elf help guide : the smart lifter's handbook Gabriel Caime 101+ Ways to steal By A Cashier Barry Briant Feel free to add your own favorites! And now for some common ways to get your hands on the aforementioned books: In the bookstore:

First of all, if the bookstore does not have any of the above books (and it probably wont), simply proceed to the customer service desk, or find an employee, and tell them that you would like to order the book. They will ask for your address, name, and phone number. To be on the safe side, you may wish to give a false name/address, and the phone number of a friend…Once the book arrives, they will call the phone number you specified and tell you that the book has arrived and they will keep it on hold for you for a certain amount of time (one to two weeks usually). Once you come into the bookstore, proceed to the cash register area and tell the cashier your last name and that you have a book on hold. Once you are handed the book, tell the cashier that you would like to look through it first, and walk off into the midst of the store. This is where the fun starts. Standard shoplifting techniques apply: *place the book in a nearly full trashcan, covering it under a layer of tissues or whatnot, mark the bag with Whiteout, a slight tear, a sticker, etc…and in the next few days proceed to scout through the store dumpsters and spot your marked bag… *Flip through the book to filter out any security tags that might be placed in- between pages, and after you’re confident there is nothing there, simply smuggle the book out in a shopping bag, waistband, etc…. Another idea that has gained popularity is to bring a digital camera with you (either inside a jacket pocket or a shopping bag). Take your book and proceed to the restroom. Go into the handicapped stall, and placing the book on the floor, holding the pages down with your feet, proceed to take a clear picture of every two pages (or page, depending on the length of the book). Then, simply dump the book on a shelf, go home, and upload your images to your computer . You may also simply buy the book, take it home and read it (perhaps also scanning the book onto the computer to have a backup copy ) and return it with the receipt within the allocated timeframe (check the store’s return policy). On the other hand, you may just want to read the entire book at the bookstore, perhaps bringing a notepad to write down the scams that interest you the most. Of course, you can buy the book directly from the publisher online, assuming that they have a lenient return policy, and then simply ship the book back, but by buying through the bookstore you have the nice option of paying with cash. If one of the above books happen to be in the library (doubtful), then simply proceed to use standard library theft techniques such as peeling off the tags, exchanging the tags with another book, or simply tossing the book out the window, and picking it up outside. And of course another classic way you can attempt to get your book of choice is to look up the publisher of the book (through a site such as Amazon or by simply doing a Google search), and then draft a letter to the publisher, complete with phony letterhead created with your favorite desktop publishing software, stating that you are a book reviewer for so-and-so magazine/journal, and would like a copy of _______ to review for next month’s issue. _________________________________________________________________________________ Replies: Also, under Paladin Press, is The Book On Bookies by James Jeffries. Sports bookies=money. _________________________________________________________________________________ best place to get books, without a doubt-- www.loompanics.com

__________________________________________________________________________________________ _ +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++ UU. Stealing [semi-coherent shoplifting advice?] +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++ __________________________________________________________________________________________ _ Posted by: PhysoSimaticOuttaControl Okay here is how its done, before you go in the store you got to have a plan. Make sure to scope out the scene the night before plan you're getaway (People that are sloppy are the ones who get cought) Try to make sure the Clerk does'nt have a gun I must warn you that is the scarest part UNLESS YOU CAN OUT RUN A BULLET and I hold no responcablity. One plan is you've got you're snach and run which works best with a friend waiting in a car with the doors open for you to jump in after you get what you want and he is waiting around the corner of a street that is close by.Now you and you're friend thats going in with you go in the store and can play it cool and just walk in GRAB AS MANY 40S as you can hold, then run out Jump in the car and get wasted. The licence Plates first letter needs to be duct taped and last number too do not forget both plates have the same letter and number's taped on both sides : ) This makes it nearly imposable for the store cameras and the cleck to get the driver's plates After you drive a few blocks away take the duct tape off just incase a cop rolls on thru he won't be none the wiser. They have never called the cops on me and my friends to this day. But you runners must not get cought nether so you have two options one I just wrote and this one...===> Go up to the counter have a pocket full of change and a candy bar ready and put the candy bar that you got earler on the counter (try to be loud for you're friend getting the 40s this can help===> But you might look kind of like you two are ploting something and you are, but dont let the clerk find out.) Tell the Clerk "I'm not sure if I have 99 cents or however much. Then through it over on the other side of the counter say oh I'm sorry try using lot of pennys there not as eazy to pick up==> And this is when it all happens ; ) You're friend Grabs LOTS of 40s and just starts walking out the door If the Clerk says something that is you're clue to run like banshees. Even if the Clerk says nothing You both must run at the same time. ====>At any rate try to make this a place that you don't come to that often

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+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++ VV. a combination scam and theft +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++ __________________________________________________________________________________________ _ Posted by: flipz ok i came up with this idea while at work today. ive never heard anyone talk about it but i doubt it's new. so i thought id post about it. see if anyone has tried it or anything. well as most of you should know, you go into a store, you use a credit card, you sign for it. the store you used it at now has 72 hours to turn in a receipt showing your signature to the credit card company. otherwise the money is automatically credited back to yer account, and the company looses. (if my theory on this is wrong, then someone let me know. but this is what ive always been taught) now busy places like walmart always give you the receipt to sign and turn around to start checking out the next person in line. well... now you take your items and walk away. or take the receipt too, cause if she sees an unsigned receipt she'll most likely ask you to come sign it. i don't know. i haven't thought it through enough to know how you could easily get away with it, but this is a rough draft i guess. is there a name for this, is it a topic ive just missed? will it not even work? _________________________________________________________________________________ Replies: im not an expert on credit cards...yet...but i dont think this would work. its a good idea, but i dont think they wont charge a credit card just cause they dont have a signed receipt. just think about any store online, or any mail order company. millions of merchants do business each day and charge cards without having signatures on file... then again, it might work. try it and find out _________________________________________________________________________________ i always like to give credit but i lost the website i got it from, was on a google search: quote: __________

Since the entire transaction is captured electronically, the receipt is used only if a dispute arises, for example due to a stolen card and forged signature. __________

well i don't know where i got my info from but i swear they had to send a signature in. well in that case, go to a store, buy a bunch of shit, use your cc, then from a cell just outside the store, call your CC company and say your card was stolen. it may take time to get it wiped off the card but in the end it's yours. or one would think so atleast. maybe ill get me a new tv this way. haha. just make sure and sign the receipt shitty. not like your own signature _________________________________________________________________________________

where i work the customer that pays by checks must supply the following: name: address: phone number: identification(hopefully a cc): id expiry: when they use a cc for ID i have the right ammount of info to start a carding scam, right? well thats my plan anyway. the problem is drop points. i live in the country - there are no abANDONed house near me, i could just put up a mail box on some road, but ill need to sigh for anything i card right. so ill need to hand out at some house / place until it comes..... i thought about paying some dude across the country like $50 to sign a bogus name, send me the shit then deny ever having picked it up if the cc company inquires. im looking for more information on how to make this successful and also - anyone who would be a drop for me in NZ.... _________________________________________________________________________________ my buddy told me you can call a credit card company and complain that what you got was not satisfactory or some shit, and they will refund it to you. you would have to do it to some small store that cant aford legal action, but he did it to pizza places and his boss got a free massage ( thats where he got the idea)

__________________________________________________________________________________________ _ +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++ WW. Blockbuster Scams +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++ __________________________________________________________________________________________ _ Posted by: dDIzzIEe A few video rental scams for your movie viewing pleasure (not necessarily geared towards any specific video rental place) Late at night, when the area is deserted, with no local security driving around, take a stick (or pipe), attach an adhesive to the end (such as bubble gum or a ring of Duct Tape), and proceed to steer it into the tape return slot. Simply ‘pick up’ the tapes and carefully drag them out. Bring a flashlight so you can see inside. Also remember that while there may be cameras, they are most likely not actively watched, so as long as one follows standard procedures (a hoodie, baseball cap, not a Blockbuster near your residence, etc…) the chance of getting ‘caught’ is reasonably low. Also remember to take what you get and leave, don’t stand there seeing what movies you got.

Another idea is when returning a tape, simply peel the blockbuster stickers off (perhaps using an adhesive remover such as one found here: http:// www.kitchen-classics.com/adhesive.htm ), and put the stickers back on a blank tape (making sure to punch out the little black square on the side), and return the blank tape, keeping the movie. Make sure that the tape is rewound, and although I’m not sure as to how Blockbusters works, I doubt that they watch every tape. You can also record a random movie on the blank tape before returning it, as well as after the tape has been returned to the shelf, putting it in another box…Another method for getting a spare tape would be to browse through a freebie site and order some promotional free tapes (such as one from http://www.davidglickman.com/videotape.htm ). I was also reading an article in an issue of 2600 (Fall 2002), and it outlined a way that one could get one’s late fees removed. In a nutshell, what one can do is call the Blockbuster store at which you rented the video and have the late fee at, pretending to be an employee from another store (for which you can get the number from a receipt). Once you call, introduce yourself as _____ from store number ____ in _____ (the town of the other Blockbuster). State that a customer has late fees at the former store and would like to pay them at the current store. Next proceed to tell the employee over the phone ‘the customer’s’ name and account number, and voila, your late dues are removed (obviously use common sense and don’t call from a home phone) And finally some quotes from Maxim’s Cheating archives ( http:// www.maximonline.com/grit/cheaters_guide/archive.html ): quote: __________ Want a freebie? You and a friend both rent movies on the same night. (But don’t go in together-you’re trying to be slick here.) The next day, after you’ve each watched both movies, switch tapes in the cases, and go back to the store. (Again-separately!) Complain of a store mix-up and they’ll spot you a free rental. __________ quote: __________ If you've rented a movie and are returning it late, walk into the store when it's busiest and simply place it on a shelf, preferably behind other movies. When they do their weekly tape audit, they will find it and mark in the computer system that it was FOS (Found on Shelf). The next time you rent, explain that you returned the tape on time, and, since they found it in the store, they will assume it was an employee error and remove the late charge from your account. Joseph W. Davenport, IA __________ quote: __________ Blockbuster has a policy that if you don't enjoy a movie you've rented from them, it's free. So, just go in and grouse about how you hated all the gratuitous violence, nudity, and sexually explicit content of the film, and that you thought it was supposed to be a romantic melodrama. Not only do you get everything you rented the movie for in the first place, you'll get it gratis. Brian N. Alexandria, VA __________ quote: __________ This is an obvious one. Simply scour the new releases rack, and find the one movie that they don’t have in stock, making sure to inspect the checkout up front for any misplaced copies. Since they guarantee that the movie you want will be there, just act like you really wanted to see that movie, and your real rental will be free of charge.

Dave C. New Hope, PA __________ ^If you want a particular movie, you may simply want to relocate a few of the boxes that haven’t been checked out, and then complain that there are no copies. They will check the computer, and tell you that there are, but you can simply show them that the display is empty…Although I must add that this is a tad riskier and might raise some suspicion on their part…

__________________________________________________________________________________________ _ +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++ XX. "Spoofing Paypal" Not Exactly [paypal scam link] +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++ __________________________________________________________________________________________ _ Posted by: Exitao http://mysql.astaforum.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=11927 I think most of you knows this.But this may help begginers in html who are trying to download an application from sites which has an paypal order page. 1)Just rightclick your mouse and click viewsource and open the source of the site in an notepad.. 2) Just search for the words "return" 3)Next to it you can find the url for the thank you page. 4)Copy that and hit it in your browser and you can see the download links. Most of the websites send you the download link by email. THis works onlywhen they provide instant download after payment

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+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++ YY. Stealing Solar Panels [unique idea] +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++ __________________________________________________________________________________________ _ Posted by: Starcraft Tohse solar panals on top of those highway payboxes and other payphones. Is there a way of stealing them? If you can steal alot of them your get alot of free electricity. _________________________________________________________________________________ Replies: Sounds like a smart idea, except that if the solar panels are only as big as the width and length of a phone box, you won't get much draw off of them. You would need loads to generate a decent amount of electricity, and someone might notice that you suddenly have dozens of little solar panels with "Telco" stamped on them glued to your roof. It was a nice idea though, if you could possibly think where bigger solar panels might be, the idea could work. _________________________________________________________________________________ the problem is you need a storage device, those panels act as a trickle charger and don't make a lot of juice. _________________________________________________________________________________ In other words, don't waste your time. If you do want some free electricty though..all though not completely...study phreaking. Learn about the gaing some free electricity thourgh your phone line (which always has power running through it), and adjusting the line such that you get maximum possible flow of juice to your house line. It can be done, although I figure I will just pay my $40-$70 a month. And I live in an apartment...if you have your own house you are better off. _________________________________________________________________________________ The phone line cant handle much current, and therefore wont give you much electricity. People have tried however, and the phone company being smart has modified the phone system so that only high voltage/current is given if the phone is off hook. As for "phreaking" the phone line, I beleived you meant building a box which will consist of a battery being charged by the phone line. Like I said before, the phone company got smart enough that this no longer works.

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+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++ __________________________________________________________________________________________ _ Posted by: dDIzzIEe Was just flipping through the May (2003) issue of PC World, and came across an article, which can be read online here: http://www.pcworld.com/news/article/ 0,aid,110012,00.asp , regarding sensitive data left intact on old hard drives. The article talks about the fact that numerous former users of old hard drives do not erase (sometimes not even bothering to erase) sensitive information such as social security numbers, tax forms, credit card numbers, and other personal information... Well, what are you waiting for? You never know what you may find on that old hard drive... _________________________________________________________________________________ Replies: Yes, that is true. Before ditching an old computer or hard drive. you should reformat it so that all the data bits are changed to 0. In other words, completely erasing it. That's what you do. Forensics is what we do to recover such information. Study it. It is a little difficult, however...if you can do computer forensics...consider yourself a pretty hot item for businness's computer security. You have a job!!!! _________________________________________________________________________________ merely just formatting your drive will not erase anything, only the table of files. for the forensics to not be able to find your filed you have to have written data over the erased datas clusters over 20 times. there are various proggies that do this. this is why the armies of the world use 98% H2SO4 to dissolve their old HDDs

__________________________________________________________________________________________ _ +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++ AAA. Good ideas of making money at school -- any ideas +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++ __________________________________________________________________________________________ _ Posted by: rt_uk Got any good ideas on how to make money at school? Thank You

_________________________________________________________________________________ Replies: From what others have posted previously... -Sell pirated games/music -Offer to write papers -Steal hardware Etc... _________________________________________________________________________________ sell your self sell explosives _________________________________________________________________________________ Well, my school is an asshole and rips you off by having you pay a dollar for a 12 oz. soda. If your like this, then buy a 12 or 24 pack of soda and sell them to people for like $0.75 or 0.80 each. A good way to boost your sales is to fuck up the soda machines and that should get you more _________________________________________________________________________________ Another idea that has come to mind is to sell textbooks to used bookstores (or exchange them for store credit). Another option would be to sell textbooks to new students at a much cheaper price, or why not sell literature study guides printed off the web? _________________________________________________________________________________ well i am a good drawler and painter and sh*t so people at my school pay me to do their damn art projects or whatever..also set up a fake donation scam and go around asking people to donate quarters or dollars to help support some cuase...doesnt seem like much but it adds up _________________________________________________________________________________ Selling things have been very profitable here. I have sold some knives, even thought a stupid idea, I doubt kids here would do much more than just show off with them. Now as for the drug business, some gangs that exist around here completely controls big time drug dealing so dont expect to make much money from that. The most number of customers you are going to have is around 10 unless you want to get shot. The idea about stealing textbooks however, has been practiced by me many times. You should know though that any marks on the book indicating it is from your school needs to be ridden off. Also, watch out for those barcodes. The idea about selling soda works too, and it was a legit business at my school for a while until the school shut down this little student store because it was competeting, and winning, against the official school cafeteria. _________________________________________________________________________________ information brokerage gather info, sell it or blackmail with it. _________________________________________________________________________________ Well, back a few years ago, I was the only one with cable internet at my school and I had napster, so I would sell cds, but now everyone has cable and kazaa. Drugs is a good idea, but cdg is right, max of 10 people, but that can be good money. It just takes 8 weeks to grow a marijuana plant. Any other drug will get you caught or killed. I make a good profit selling cigarets and beer to kids.

Learn to make fake ids. I sell them for 75 bucks a piece. The only problem is that nobody every has the money. Explosives are good to sell. That is probably my biggest money maker. Everyone wants them. I mostly sell small stuff like m-80s. I do sell a lot of pure sodium though. That stuff isn't that hard to make. I fill a pill bottle and make 50 bucks. ( the kids at my school are stupid ) Doing homework is good too. Especially in the morning when people realized they forgot to do it. I copy mine onto another piece of paper. That generates a good 5 bucks. Stealing books is nice. I sell books to the students in a grade below me so that they can study for next year. I sell them for 15 bucks. As you can tell, my biggest business are nerds in this. In the lunch line, steal food. Resell it to kids for a cheaper cost. This is good for a quick dollar. Taking Dares - sometimes you can drink a bottle of tobasco sauce for 50 bucks or say something fucked up to a teacher. I made 350 bucks from like 25 people for taking out our gym lockers (they are on wheels) and putting them in the showers and turning the showers on. _________________________________________________________________________________ sell pirated stuff. sell dvd quality movies for 10, games for 15, and theatre cam movies for 5-6 dollars. people will love you. instead of paying 20-30 for a dvd, they get it for 10. instead of 50 for a game, they get it for 15, plus you can get them movies that have just come out. this is very profitable. buy a 50 pack of black Imation cd's for 15-20 dollars tops, burn like hell and you can make tons of cash. oh, also sell music cd's. 50 cents per song is usually what i charge. _________________________________________________________________________________ if u wanna make money i think the best way would be to steal shit from school to sell probly somewhere else. steal stuff from other students that they're not supposed to have. like at my school we're not allowed mobile phones so i have stolen a couple of them, and when the victim tells the teacher their mobiles been stolen they will say you're not meant to have mobiles at school. all the while im selling it to a cash converters, after making some long distance calls of course!! i have found this is the best way or you could just steal money from ppl's bags - go for the girls' cause they usually have those big purses that they leave in their bag. good luck _________________________________________________________________________________ The best way to make money is find out who the smokers are at ur school and sell them ciggies. Most of them look too young or are to scared to buy a pack. I dunno what u guys pay for a pack of smokes over there but here in New Zealand its about $10-12($5-6USD i think), then find out what they smoke, they all seem to smoke the same brand. Most people here smoke Dunhill, Rothmans and Benson & Hedges. So you go out and buy a pack of 20 B&H for about $5 so u are paying 25c for one ciggie, then u just go up to the smokers and ask if they want to buy a smoke for 50c. They're all addicted and desperate, so unlees you smoke you should come out of it with $10. Then when u get all ur money go and buy 2 packs, sell them and then you'll have $20 in the end.....$10 bucks for you, 10 for another 2 packs......if u want u can even then buy 4 packs from the money but i guess it just depends how many people smoke at ur school. If you want, do it with a couple of friends cause when people find out ur selling they'll start selling aswell so ull have some compitition which u wont get it ur mates sell aswell. The dude i know that sells at school makes like 60 bucks a week sometimes. If ur business starts to get a bit thin get some kids addcicted by telling them all the cool kids smoke and that its not bad for u then give 'em a couple for free. Well good luck. _________________________________________________________________________________

buy or steal the 15 pack slim jims and sell them for 50 or 40 cent each you ake a profit I've benn doing this on the bus with airheads,slim jims,bubble gum,pixie stix and stolen games or trading cards,its not the greatest ide but it beats stealing form a cash register

__________________________________________________________________________________________ _ +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++ BBB. Getting Free Products by 'writing' reviews +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++ __________________________________________________________________________________________ _ Posted by: dDIzzIEe A large variety of goods, ranging from books to software is given to reviewers for free. The catch, however, is that each company is different in the amount of checking they do. For example, some companies may not send a product if you claim to be from some vague magazine they have never heard of, while others will gladly send out the product in appreciation of reaching a new wider audience. Standard protocol is to create a simple letterhead (complete with logo) for a fictional periodical, and draft a letter to the company of choice stating that you are a reviewer for so-and-so and wish to receive a complimentary copy of _____ for strictly reviewal purposes. (It's late and I'm exhausted but I'll post a sample letter within the next day or so). Once again, depending on the company, they may or may not write back stating that yes they'll send you the product and might like to see a copy of your review... Hence, your best bet is to pick a CD/DVD/Book and write to the publisher asking for a promotional copy for evaluation/review writing purposes. Some links that I've found that contain contact information for requesting free reviewal copies (or licenses in the case of software): software: http://www.xmlspy.com/authentic_references.html http://www.matterform.com/index.php?page=/mugs/index.php http://www.isupress.edu/reviewrequest.html http://www.mhhe.com/ catalogs/cust_serv/review1.mhtml http://www.veggievan.org/book/bookdet.html http://www.ymaa.com/reviewcopy.html etc... _________________________________________________________________________________ Replies:

i actually considered doing this legitimately, like making a website where stuff was reviewed, and eventually people would send me things to review never got around to doing it one of those failed ideas anyway, my dad works as a lecturer in a university. gets all these free books from publishers wanting him to review them and include them in the syllabus. the books arnt cheap either. might want to consider that possibility as well (get a university letterhead) _________________________________________________________________________________ The best way to do this, is actually write a couple of reviews of products, and include them with your letter as an example of the type of reviewing you do. Make sure they are accurate, and favourable to the product, but don't try too hard to be funny. If they can see a serious example, they are more likely to believe you, and send things.

__________________________________________________________________________________________ _ +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++ CCC. DVD Scam +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++ __________________________________________________________________________________________ _ Posted by: MSW2006 Well, I posted this originally in another thread, but I've been doing this lately, and I figured I would get the topic some mainstream attention on the board. What I do is go to the store, and find a magazine (usually an electronics one) that has one of those five DVDs for 49 cents each or something like that; usually, you have to pay shipping. So what I do is order all five DVDs, and pay the required $10 shipping and handling. Obviously, with these kinds of offers, the catch is that they will bitch you out about buying DVDs at full price within the next X number of years. Right. I just send them to a drop location, and pick them up, then sell them to the local used DVD store for $10-$12 apiece, at a profit of around $42 bucks. There ya go. _________________________________________________________________________________ Replies: Yes, interesting idea , however one question I have is how do you go about paying the S&H? I don't have any experience with the aformentioned DVD clubs (although I've seen their ads in magazines like Rolling Stone),

however I know that for (at least some) similar book clubs, the S&H bill is sent along with the free (cheap) books, hence when picking the package up at your drop, you wouldn't need to pay the S&H...

__________________________________________________________________________________________ _ +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++ DDD. Coinage [finding change] +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++ __________________________________________________________________________________________ _ Posted by: MSW2006 Well, last night, I decided to take a nice trip around my town, which is about six miles square. Seeing as how all I was doing was bumming around, I began to look for money. So first, I go to the payphones in one of the local malls, and find $1.50 between twelve payphones, I think it was. Then, I go to the drive-thrus of about seven resteraunts, and find too many coins that people have dropped. Probably seven or eight dollars worth. Good enough. I further head on to the local grocery stores, and find plenty of coins in those coinstar machines that people don't even check. Plenty of nickels and dimes and pennies there, between four grocery stores. I think total, I ended up with $13, for about two hours worth of work. So in theory, you don't have to do illegal shit for money, you just have to look around for it, which is legal. _________________________________________________________________________________ Replies: Placing a fine-meshed net on the floors of shallow fountains at malls, campuses, etc...weighing it down at the corners with small rocks, and coming back in a while can yield some nice profits. Checking in the midst of bus seats can also yield a small profit, as well as walking under roller coasters (assuming you have access to the usually restricted area, or no one is watching). To take this opportunity to go off on a tangent, when getting off a roller coaster, be one of the first ones off, and drop by the bin where people temporarily place their valuables, take that lovely digital camera or wallet, and walk away. _________________________________________________________________________________

Take some couopns with you in a store. Buy a few ideas related to the coupons you have. If done correctly FORGET one coupon in your hand, etc. AND come back into the store 5-15 mins later SAYing you forgot to use it! [in the hand trick worked once, be on a cellphone or some crap] **55 cents later... you HAVE saved. _________________________________________________________________________________ I always did like picking coins out of fountains. They've never said anything to me about it about legalities, just asked me to leave once I got a handful.

__________________________________________________________________________________________ _ +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++ EEE. save $$ on postage +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++ __________________________________________________________________________________________ _ Posted by: jackallen i received an envelope today containing a money order for an order that was placed on thepickshop.com. on the envelope were 3 stamps: a 32 cent stamp, and 2, 3 cent stamps underneath that. the postmark went through the 1 stamp on the top roc, but the 3 stamps have no markings on them. essentially, i could remove these and remail them, saving 6 cents!.. im not sure what denomiations stamps come it but it would be possible to place a low denomiation stamp in the corner, with the remaining denomiation stamp underneath it. you could reuse them, thus saving about 36 cents an envelope... _________________________________________________________________________________ Replies: Interesting , an older postage 'trick' was to lightly coat your stamp with glue, allowing the recipient to wash off the postage markings and reuse the stamp. source: http://www.2600.org.nz/sarchive/banana/stamps.txt

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+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++ FFF. the payphone scam?!?!?! +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++ __________________________________________________________________________________________ _ Posted by: Gyro8 I was curious if any one has ever pulled off the scam where u cut the two wires to a payphone so that later u could get all the money?? And if u did what exact tools did u use and the method in which u HAVE used this. My dumb ass got LITERALLY a big SHOCK when tryn to. i forgot that the wires were on and conducted electricity! So this next time i would like to be a whole lot more prepared!! _________________________________________________________________________________ Replies: It does work on alot of model payphones and it's not total bullshit. I'm in a rush so i won't go in to alot of detail. The wiring loom that goes in to the payphone will contain 6-10 wires depending on country/model etc. 2 of these wires are for the coin return solenoid, (normally) yellow and brown. If these wires are cut it prevents the change return solenoid from functioning. These wires should only be 9-18 volts so you should not get shocked. Now if the phone has an illuminated light there will be mains power. These wires are generally thicker then the rest. If your not sure DON'T go cutting random wires. Electrician grade rubber handled cutters are desirable if your going to go experimenting with this stuff, and a multimeter and the knowledge on how to use one is a BIG bonus. While im at it, 2 wires in the loom are used for the actual phone call. If you locate these 2 wires and strip some insulation from them, you can get an ordinary house phone, cut the plug off it and attach 2 alligator clips. Clip them on to the stripped wires on the payphone, you will have a dial tone if done correctly. You can now phreak the world for free. Hope this clears a few things up.

__________________________________________________________________________________________ _ +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++ GGG. Ballot stuffing as prize winning? +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++ __________________________________________________________________________________________ _ Posted by: dDIzzIEe This idea is a purely hypothetical spur-of-the-moment idea and has not been thoroughly developed and as such your comments are greatly encouraged… This idea revolves around those various public sweepstakes setups you may have seen at malls or outdoor shopping strips. Usually it’s a mildly decorated table or stand with a couple pads of entry forms and a box for the entry forms. The prizes vary from mall gift certificates, to small kitchen utilities, to a new car. Well, an important question that arises is: are these ballot boxes checked for ballot stuffing? While it is likely that the contests for the more grandiose prizes are checked to avoid this simple fraud, the contests which involve smaller prizes may not be checked… Of course, an important factor to consider is that there is only one prize, for if there’s a second or third, it will be awkward when your name is pulled out again. A way that ballot-stuffing could be tested is if the mall or store do a regular sweepstake, such as a monthly lottery for a $50 gift certificate would be to first enter the address of a person you loosely know (but do not particularly care about) from work or school and fill out a pad of entry forms with his name. In a couple of months the person should be bragging about his unexpected prize, or be contacted by law enforcement. So what if ballot stuffing is checked for? Well there are still a few ways you can increase your chances of winning the coveted leaf blower. Assuming you have access to the entry submission box after hours (for example if it is located in an outdoor mall), you may wish to open the box and take out a good amount of entry forms and perhaps replace them with a set of dummy forms made out to nonexistent addresses. An extreme, albeit more risky idea, would be to take out as much as 90% of the submissions and replace them all with fake ones, however this may raise a few eyebrows when your phone number is the only valid one out of 100 entries. To save yourself the trouble of having to come up with different handwriting, you may simply wish to alter various data on the existing forms, such as changing a 9 to an 8. If you do not have access to the submissions box at a convenient time, your actions will have to be all the more indiscriminant, perhaps only taking out a few forms a day (using tweezers if the entry hole is small). Oh well just a few loose thoughts…

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Disclaimer Certain parts of this text file deal with activities and devices which would be in violation of various Federal, State, and local laws if actually carried out or constructed. I, DIzzIE, do not advocate the breaking of any law. This text file is for informational purposes only. I do not guarantee that any of the information contained in this file is correct, workable, or factual. I am not responsible for, nor do I assume any liability for, damages resulting from the use of any information in this file. Preamble Some of you may remember a couple years ago a TOTSE Heap O' Scams textfile was created based on a compendium of scam-related posts in Bad Ideas (it's available here or here). Well, I reckon it's high time a second version was created. Unfortunately, I don't have the time to create a clean text file likeTX297 nicely did for the first heap, so you'll just have to make do with this sloppy html file containing the latest scam ideas posted on the TOTSE Bad Ideas forum. Simply click on the appropriate letter to go to that topic, and hit your browser's back key to return to the table of contents. Make mirrors/distribute copies of this file! To submit a scam for Heap O' Scams III email [email protected] Enjoy! -DIzzIE July 30, 2005 Table of Contents A. Walmart Return Scam? [receipt scam]

B. siphoning gas + profit and saved money C. How to get free magazines D. Selling Burned CDs E. Barcode Scam..decided to bring it back up F. Shoplifting discussion [keep all shoplifting posts here] G. A 'how to' on Getting into Amusement Parks for free H. Dumpster Diving I. Ebay scam - Pics J. switching tags on clothes? K. what are some successful ways to steal clothes? L. New (?) scam to get free stuff from shops [receipt scam] M. charity scams N. furniture fraud O. How to get 20 - 100 bucks fast [miscellaneous $-making] P. Free fodd at BK Q. short change R. Ebay scam S. Official Car Shopping Thread T. Free McDonalds U. Answer to RFID [shoplifting] V. a whole new way to shoplift W. recycle coke cans X. Idea for PS2 Scam [return scam] Y. Guide: Bypassing Car Locks Z. Box Stuffing Variation [shoplifting] AA. Stealing from secured places [shoplifting] BB. A very good scam [Lock Stock check return scam] CC. post FAST ways to make quick cash DD. Best idea ever to get $200 [reselling textbooks] EE. Self check out [shoplifting] FF. wally world "guide" [shoplifting] GG. Wallet Scam (Question not instructions [the pigeon drop] HH. How to get 200 free cigarettes [An example of the complaint letter scam] II. Trick Cashier Scam [short changing] JJ. Pickpockets KK. 2 for 1 Deal [fast food scam] LL. Free Fuel [fill'n'ditch] MM. Original Scam. [funding fraud] NN. Proper way to siphon gas with sketch OO. Goodwill [shoplifting] PP. The Bitch Calling Scheme [verbal variant of the complaint letter scam] QQ. Great find for vending machien hackers [vending machine manuals]
Author Topic: Walmart Return Scam?

vonelab
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posted 07-18-2005 20:45

I've heard of finding a receipt in the parking lot and going in and finding the item and then saying you want to return it. This sounds like it would work, but is there anything else to it. Aren't you supposed to get things marked if your bringing them in? KarEEmDaNIggA
Regular posted 07-18-2005 21:14

the only way to be caught is checking serial numbers etc. One_Armed_Scissor posted 07-19-2005 00:20
Regular

It works. Put yourself in the cashier's shoes. Some guy comes up with an item and he has a receipt for it. If they ask where your pink sticker is, just say you didn't get one. Pinball Mgruff
Regular posted 07-19-2005 00:54

You'll get caught. People get caught doing this all the time. vonelab
Regular posted 07-19-2005 03:34

Anyone actually ever do this?

warren1
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posted 07-19-2005 04:16

Ya I actually have done it a few times but mine is diffrent, when me or my buddies buy something from there I take there recipt and go get the exact same item off the shelf and return it. Most of the recipts are just code, they dont say the whole name of the shirt or anything. Just buy whatever you want, wait a day go back grab it off the rack and return it. If they ask why the serial number on your recipt and the number on the item dont match say the reason your returning it is because your bro/ mom/friend bought you the same one so you must have returned the one they gave you or took his recipt by accident.

One_Armed_Scissor posted 07-19-2005 05:15
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SWIM did this and got $120 last time he went to Wal-Mart. It should also be noted that Wal-Mart has the most sophisticated inventory system. Each item in the store is given a specific ID code and logged into a data base. I'm assuming this data base is local- meaning it's only for that specific store. And whenever an item is bought, that item is taken out of the data base. One of my economic teachers was telling me this. How he knows? I dunno. But it seems feesable. But you don't have to worry about this. I mean you can always say you got it from another store. daltrav
Regular quote: posted 07-19-2005 05:41

Originally posted by One_Armed_Scissor: SWIM did this and got $120 last time he went to WalMart. It should also be noted that Wal-Mart has the most sophisticated inventory system. Each item in the store is given a specific ID code and logged into a data base. I'm assuming this data base is local- meaning it's only for that specific store. And whenever an item is bought, that item is taken out of the data base. One of my economic teachers was telling me this. How he knows? I dunno. But it seems feesable. But you don't have to worry about this. I mean you can always say you got it from another store.

Your teacher is right. My stepdad used to work for Wal-Mart back when money was tight. He told me the same thing. That as soon as the barcode is passed by the scanner, headquarters knows that item has been sold.

vonelab
Regular

posted 07-19-2005 07:49

So what if you say what the guy mentioned above... you got the same exact one and just grabbed one to take back, then will they still refund you or complain because the code doesn't match. gomp
Regular posted 07-19-2005 08:27

here is how I have done this I buy a computer part that I want or need then I take old part (pretty much only graphics cards) put it in the new part box and return the part. ta-fucking-da free upgrade. works with hard drives too. buy a big ass hard drive and put your little one in the box and return it. the costomer service people dont know a damn thing about computer parts. half the time they dont know the differance bettween computer parts and computer games. Spatula Tzar
Regular posted 07-19-2005 08:35

How can they assign a serial number to an item? The UPC remains the same across the country. Do they print their own barcodes or something? Cause you can alway print out a sticker... sewer_zombie
Regular posted 07-19-2005 11:57

Me and my mom, (yes my mom steals) we have a little team where I go around and pick up the receipt from a walgreens or something then when im done, my mom goes inside the walgreens or whatever to steal the item. Then we go to another walgreens, return the item/s and then get big bucks. Weve never been caught once. kaos_ill
Regular quote: posted 07-19-2005 16:52

Originally posted by Spatula Tzar: How can they assign a serial number to an item? The UPC remains the same across the country. Do they print their own barcodes or something? Cause you can alway print out a sticker...

The upc is the serial number.

They only know how many of a certain item they are supposed to have. Like they know how many snickers bars they have based on how many they ordered , recieved, and have sold. They do inventories every year to see how much is stolen , lost by damage, etc. If i remember correctly the top ten stolen items were something like batteries, lipstick, dvds, cd's, and I don't remember anything else. I know a shit ton about wal-marts security if anyone wants to ask specific questions. I keep meaning to write a faq but I'm to lazy. vonelab
Regular posted 07-19-2005 17:39

I hold in my hand a walmart receipt. Here's what it says 10 Aquarium 001590507110 9.48 X Checking the bar code on the Aquarium, those numbers match it. Therefor the receipt doesn't actually display something they can check individually as all barcodes are the same. What would be the best time do to this though... late at night when theres a few workers and little security or when its busy and they'll just be rushed to give you a refund with tighter security? Will they get suspicious if you don't have that pink little sticker? [This message has been edited by vonelab (edited 07-19-2005).] NlCK
Regular posted 07-20-2005 02:34

Do they run and ask the door greeter, or what? I should think you can apply your own pink sticker. Do it during the day when it's busy, and don't doddle. [This message has been edited by NlCK (edited 07-20-2005).] jonogt
Regular posted 07-20-2005 05:45

aight who wants to get on photoshop and whip up a image file for everyone to print their own completely convincing pink stickers that the guy slaps on items?

diffview4290
Regular

posted 07-20-2005 08:00

yeah i did that at toys r us it was like 15 bucks... fun but not worth the time factor NlCK
Regular quote: posted 07-20-2005 10:57

Originally posted by jonogt: aight who wants to get on photoshop and whip up a image file for everyone to print their own completely convincing pink stickers that the guy slaps on items?

Dude... walk in to Walmart with a bag. Inside the sack have an object that's easy to remove stickers from. Get the item, walk to a camera-less isle, and switch the sticker. Don't stop to do it, just keep walking. Have a friend go to isle X. Pretend to look for him, and make the switch mid-walk when you're out of view. Meet up, and walk to returns. Walmart's policy is no questions asked if you're returning something under $25. Suggestions for hypothetical situations, of course. jonogt
Regular posted 07-20-2005 18:41

thanks for the under 25$ tip... thats a good thing to keep in mind if doing this. Twilight_Orange
Regular posted 07-20-2005 19:41

I work at Wally World, so I can offer a little advise. Make sure the recept is pretty recent, and decent looking. Also try to make it for something that is under $40-$50 dollars. Some of the higher end items have serial numbers on them to track sales, so if you go up there with the wrong box, you're fucked. As for the pink tags, when you go up to the service desk, you'll see baskets with random merch in them. These are returns that are ready to go out to the departments, and many time, they still have the pink tags

on them, so you can just take a pink tag off of something in one of the baskets. Overall, you shoulden't get caught doing this, and if they suspect you, just make a big fuss, then walk out of the store. They won't bother trying to catch you, but don't go back to the store for a while. I hope I offered some helpful advise, as im on Adderall and rabling a bit. Good luck. Anirak
Regular quote: posted 07-20-2005 23:16

Originally posted by NlCK: Walmart's policy is no questions asked if you're returning something under $25.

So wait, wouldn't one of those questions be "Where is your receipt?" Couldn't you just find some shit on a shelf without a receipt then? BigBird
Regular posted 07-22-2005 10:25

I do this often at Barnes & Noble without any hassle. Try doin it there. Anyone got tips were to find recipts besides the garbage and parking lot? kaos_ill
Regular quote: posted 07-22-2005 15:16

Originally posted by Anirak: So wait, wouldn't one of those questions be "Where is your receipt?" Couldn't you just find some shit on a shelf without a receipt then?

If it has the pink sticker on it they assume you brought it into the store, and don't need a receipt.

vonelab
Regular

posted 07-22-2005 19:29

What exactly does the pink sticker look like... could someone do a photoshop. In my head, if I remember correctly, it's just a pink dot but does anyone have the right color and size in some type of image format? God of Toilets
Regular posted 07-22-2005 22:05

Most stores like CVS sell sheets of dot stickers. You can usually buy them for real cheap in like, six sheets to a box, 24 to a sheet. Usually have some pink ones, though if you look hard enough you can probably find allpink ones. kochjo5
Regular quote: posted 07-23-2005 03:40

Originally posted by One_Armed_Scissor: It works. Put yourself in the cashier's shoes. Some guy comes up with an item and he has a receipt for it. If they ask where your pink sticker is, just say you didn't get one.

haha tell them that the handicaped bitch didnt giv you one hahahah i used to buy games from walmart, use a razor to slice the bottom open, slide out the video game disc, close it back up with superglue, then return with reciept for cash! Putting a blank cd inside also help to keep weight the same. Your plan has been done many times and im sure you can get it to work. I would suggest getting a bag prior to going to customer service and finding the item and leaving it somewhere. Exit the store, then go back in the other door.

kochjo5
Regular

posted 07-23-2005 03:44

oh, you could bring in something small to return (that can fit in your pocket), get the pink sticker, put your small item back in your pocket, and put the expensive item in the bag. If you have the pink sticker, im guessing this will run smooth as hell. inuteroteen
Regular posted 07-23-2005 06:40

My xbox quite working one day. So i went to walmart and bought a new one. I took the new one out and switched it with the old. I returned it and got my money back. I got a free replacment xbox. cffdeathrattle666
Regular posted 07-23-2005 08:34

is it possible to buy like a PSP and put the very first GBA in the box and return it? will they check inside the box before they give you the money? [This message has been edited by cffdeathrattle666 (edited 07-232005).] squeegee
Regular quote: posted 07-23-2005 09:19

Originally posted by cffdeathrattle666: is it possible to buy like a PSP and put the very first GBA in the box and return it? will they check inside the box before they give you the money?

They will check it, but not very well. Maybe its just my particular store, but the people at my Wal-Mart just don't give a rats ass. I have taken many things back, legit I might add, and it took less than two or three minutes to go through the process. I think you could get some reasonable income from this. Say you returned two $50 items a week. Who wouldn't deny $400 extra a month? Its not a lot, but shit...That would cover my pot cost plus about $200. Making income with this would be easier with big cities. I have two wal marts within a half hour of my house. I could return one $50 item to each store a week. I would just make sure to go at different times each week,

like in the morning noon and nite. This way, the likelyhood of seeing the same person twice would be at about once every three weeks. Kmart and Target are also one exit down the interstate too I might seriously be on to something here Gsus
Regular posted 07-23-2005 15:29

Has anyone tried this in the UK? faithbanks
Regular quote: posted 07-23-2005 20:14

Originally posted by vonelab: I've heard of finding a receipt in the parking lot and going in and finding the item and then saying you want to return it. This sounds like it would work, but is there anything else to it. Aren't you supposed to get things marked if your bringing them in?

Where I come from, they put stickers on your returns as soon as you come in the door. And they won't return an item without a sticker. Even if you try to take a sticker from somewhere else and put it on it won't work because if you lift the sticker it says void. Ddog
Regular posted 07-23-2005 21:20

Do you guys return the items with your debit cards? natedawgyrocks
Regular posted 07-23-2005 21:56

mmmhm kay you guys are dumm making such a big deal with the sticker thing. Steal the item out of one door. come in the other door and get your sticker. you might want to deactivate the magnet at the self service checkout first though.

faithbanks
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posted 07-26-2005 17:33

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Originally posted by Ddog: Do you guys return the items with your debit cards?

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! That's leaving a trail right to your door if they catch on. Cash only! vonelab
Regular posted 07-26-2005 18:31

I'm still not gettin it, how do I go about getting a real pink sticker? Return some small item to get one and switch it or what? kochjo5
Regular posted 07-26-2005 19:36

I think i figured out the best way to do this AND get a pink sticker. This works if you already have the item bought, so i guess it would help u get shit for free. OK, so you buy the item, and leave. Later, go in with the item and reciept, and get the sticker. Go to the isle where you got the item, and hide the one with the sticker on it. Put the new one in your bag with reciept and walk out. Later or through a different door, go back in with the reciept in your pocket and get the item with the pink sticker. Return and you have an item and the money you payed for it. Anirak
Regular quote: posted 07-27-2005 01:01

Originally posted by kochjo5: I think i figured out the best way to do this AND get a pink sticker. This works if you already have the item bought, so i guess it would help u get shit for free. OK, so you buy the item, and leave. Later, go in with the item and reciept, and get the sticker. Go to the isle

where you got the item, and hide the one with the sticker on it. Put the new one in your bag with reciept and walk out. Later or through a different door, go back in with the reciept in your pocket and get the item with the pink sticker. Return and you have an item and the money you payed for it.

Or take a small item in and remove the sticker off of it and put on the new item... squeegee
Regular quote: posted 07-27-2005 06:34

Originally posted by Anirak: Or take a small item in and remove the sticker off of it and put on the new item...

How about you take some bullshit box in there with you and take the sticker off that? Make it something small that you could throw away. kaos_ill
Regular posted 07-27-2005 10:50

Most common thing I've seen used is a 4 pack of D batteries. If they say anything you say I need C. The sticker peels of easily, and they fit in your pocket and/or are a 4 dollar loss ifyou toss em.
Author Topic: siphoning gas + profit and saved money

lordkiller
Regular

posted 07-26-2005 03:48

So a $3 investment has sparked a new idea for my friend... SIPHON THE HELL OUT OF THE TRUCK RENTAL PLACE! My friend just got 2 gallons and feel great plus there is alot of cars so car shopping is a possibility since he was in a rental van... nothing good but gas he said .. Now he says he is planning on selling all this gas too his friends for 1.75 a gallon.... He is now looking for all kinds of containers to use to fill them up...

roll2daspot
Regular

posted 07-26-2005 04:23

seriously, get one of these http://tinyurl.com/dpz37 no gas in your mouth and it is faster/easyer then using a hose alone, I did this all the time when I first got my car and didint have a job, I just took a jerry can with me at night, and filled it up a few times and there is a feww tank of gas [This message has been edited by roll2daspot (edited 07-26-2005).] Rock
Regular posted 07-26-2005 05:07

How you get the cap(to get to the fuel thing) off? Just a flat head and jam it? I could use some fuel for my car... [This message has been edited by Rock (edited 07-26-2005).] lordkiller
Regular posted 07-26-2005 05:48

you unscrew it?????? wtf man edit: if your talking about the metal thing its a flap kind of and a hose will push it up easily just put the hose down untill it dont go any further blow down and if you hear bubbling then your in gas just suck it or pump it if you have the pump kind till you see the gas come and then it will come out all on its own [This message has been edited by lordkiller (edited 07-26-2005).] Rock
Regular posted 07-26-2005 09:28

http://tinyurl.com/c3apg soro_one
Regular posted 07-26-2005 10:34

Good idea if there's one thing we have alot of over here it's car dealerships. But usually the gas can covers are locked and these cars have alarms on them that would probably go off if I popped them open.

bluefox
Regular

posted 07-26-2005 18:28

y'know, get a siphoner and drive around your neighborhood, filling up five gallon cans from random street cars at 3am. Now sell the 5 gallons of gas per jug for 5 bucks each to your friends. What an awesome idea. badwiskey
Regular posted 07-27-2005 00:57

How do you get the gas out of the tank? 10 elevenths
Regular quote: posted 07-27-2005 01:05

Originally posted by badwiskey: How do you get the gas out of the tank?

Dear god. lordkiller
Regular posted 07-27-2005 01:22

I will try to explain with as little cursing as possible: You: Stick the fucking rubber hose down the fucking tank untill the fucker wont go any further then fucking blow into it to see if its in the gas if you hear the shit bubble then all you do is suck it like the little cock sucker you are untill the gas comes out pull the fucking hose out of your damn mouth and it will come out all on its fucking own. Rock
Regular posted 07-27-2005 06:42

How the fuck do you open the door thing? http://tinyurl.com/c3apg Look at that. I know how to siphon. Do you just flat head it open?

Fayt
Regular

posted 07-27-2005 07:00

90% of cars will not have a latch holding that needs to be opened from inside the car. Most cars just have a raised part that you can pull open. Honestly, look at your car. If you can't figure out how to open a gas tank cover, you need some help. TJTay89
Regular posted 07-27-2005 07:19

Rock, I would just shop around until you find a car that doesn't have a lock on the gas cap (which the one in the picture does have). Be careful when you are sucking on the hose, don't panic when it starts to come out, and rip if away from your mouth in an upward motion, unless you want gas in your eyeballs. And with fuckers like you running around, I am glad I have a lock on both the door and the cap. Jaguarstrike
Regular quote: posted 07-27-2005 11:40

Originally posted by roll2daspot: seriously, get one of these http://tinyurl.com/dpz37 no gas in your mouth and it is faster/easyer then using a hose alone, I did this all the time when I first got my car and didint have a job, I just took a jerry can with me at night, and filled it up a few times and there is a feww tank of gas

http://tinyurl.com/den6a these are cheaper.

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Topic:

How to get free magazines

deadkennedy
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posted 07-19-2005 18:37

Hey, I just thought i'd give you guys some hints on how to get free magazines. I just did this with a magazine and it really wasn't my intention at first. Anyways, go online to your favorite magazine's site. Go to where it has about advertising and send them an email inquiring about advertising. Ask some random questions like the average age of their subscribers, avg income, etc. Then just ask if maybe you could get a few magazines sent to you to look at. Anyways, thats my 2 cents. It really isn't a "bad idea" just a way to get free stuff. Hope you like it. 0x29A
Regular quote: posted 07-19-2005 18:45

Originally posted by deadkennedy: Hey, I just thought i'd give you guys some hints on how to get free magazines. I just did this with a magazine and it really wasn't my intention at first. Anyways, go online to your favorite magazine's site. Go to where it has about advertising and send them an email inquiring about advertising. Ask some random questions like the average age of their subscribers, avg income, etc. Then just ask if maybe you could get a few magazines sent to you to look at. Anyways, thats my 2 cents. It really isn't a "bad idea" just a way to get free stuff. Hope you like it.

Theres an easier way... just take one of those magazine subscriptions, and check the BILL ME LATER thingie... once they send you a bill, call up customer service and complain that you never ordered the magazine to begin with, and you thought it was being sent free.. i did that a LONG time ago and I got a free watch gift in addition to the 6 month subscription.. im not sure if they've wisened up or not

brendy
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posted 07-20-2005 04:16

if you dont mind getting last months mag with missing covers , then become mates with a dairy owner , they send the covers back to show what they havent sold and receive a refund some are more than happy to give them out because then they dont have to pay to get rid of them or look round the back of dairys for boxes of mags , if you have time check the whole box incase its crap mags , if not just do a quick check to see if its what you want , cause its a bitch lugging a box of mags home) but becomeing mates with the dairy owner is great , or you could own a dairy...

[This message has been edited by brendy (edited 07-20-2005).] Sliced Bread
Regular quote: posted 07-20-2005 05:54

Originally posted by brendy: if you dont mind getting last months mag with missing covers , then become mates with a dairy owner , they send the covers back to show what they havent sold and receive a refund some are more than happy to give them out because then they dont have to pay to get rid of them or look round the back of dairys for boxes of mags , if you have time check the whole box incase its crap mags , if not just do a quick check to see if its what you want , cause its a bitch lugging a box of mags home)

i remeber digging through dumpters to find porn mags way back in the day deadlycindy
Moderator posted 07-20-2005 08:32

If anyone wants Blender, take it: http://www.magscentral.com/bldr/bld1851s.htm No catch, no gimmick.

woodchuck_love posted 07-20-2005 08:35
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why thank you diffview4290
Regular quote: posted 07-20-2005 08:53

Originally posted by deadlycindy: If anyone wants Blender, take it: [URL=http: //www.mags central.co m/bldr/bld 1851s. htm] http://www .magscentr al.com/bld r/bld1851s.htm [/URL] No catch, no gimmick.

thanks for hocking me up friend

woodchuck_love posted 07-20-2005 09:16
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lol *imagines you being hocked up* brendy
Regular quote: posted 07-20-2005 11:48

Originally posted by Sliced Bread: i remeber digging through dumpters to find porn mags way back in the day

yea , a while back the dairy round the corner closed down , im good mates with the owner so me and my mates got lots of cool stuff they were biffing

out , he got so sick of kids trying to find porn and tipping over the dumpster he just puts them all in a box and i pick it up once a month , give the dubble copys away or sell them cheep , its all good

dDIzzIEe
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posted 07-29-2005 08:23

A few more ideas: http://www.dizzy.ws/freemagz.htm carbo
Regular posted 07-29-2005 09:48

I go to Barnes and Noble, put them in my jacket, and walk out. lacoste2k2
Regular posted 07-29-2005 11:58

I took a Car and Driver subscription card, filled it out and checked the BILL ME LATER box. They sent me a couple of issues and then sent me a bill. I waited until they sent me another bill and then instead of sending a payment back I typed up a note saying that I had already mailed the payment and that they must have lost it and how I will certainly not send another one. Stuff like that. And awesomely enough, they continued to send me issues until the regular subscription ended. I thought that this was just a one time computer mistake or something on their end, but I recently tried it with Super Street and it worked.
Author Topic: Selling Burned CDs

kevdude61
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posted 07-18-2005 06:15

So I had a dream last night that a friend and I next year are going download songs and burn them to cds for people at my school for money. Has anybody ever done this before and if so, how much did you charge, any advice, how did you get word around about your service? echoman64
Regular posted 07-18-2005 06:22

most people charged five bucks were i went to school.

badwiskey
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posted 07-18-2005 06:22

Me and my friends had an idea like this, we were going to make actual catalogues with movies, music, porn, and games (if we could burn them so they would play on non modded systems). Unfortunetely it never took off, but if you have a lot of friends you can very easily get the word out, maybe charge 3-5 dollars for a cd full of songs, thats 17 I think. You have to keep your price lower, because these days its just so easy to get the songs, anyone with a computer connected to the net can do it. SmartTart
Regular posted 07-18-2005 06:55

Alot of people have tried this over where I live. No one has really "taken off" with this idea, because everyone does the same stupid stuff... MUSIC CD's! almost anywon who would want to buy CD's can download them off the internet fairly easy. Use high-speed internet resources (assuming you have it, anyway...) and get stuff like Family Guy, CD's of Music Videos, porn (yes, kinda low, but still, it works) and generally any kinda of digital media most people cant easily access. Movies might also work pretty good if you can get it down to SVCD Format and fit it all on one CD. SmartTart awkword
Regular quote: posted 07-18-2005 07:34

Originally posted by badwiskey: Me and my friends had an idea like this, we were going to make actual catalogues with movies, music, porn, and games (if we could burn them so they would play on non modded systems). .... maybe charge 3-5 dollars for a cd full of songs, thats 17 I think.....

you can fit well over 100 on a cd it's called .MP3

kevdude61
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posted 07-18-2005 07:43

I was thinking about porn as well. The Family Guy thing would be good if I could get the episodes before they air on tv, people would probably by that just to say they watched it first. I forgot to mention by friend has a very good high-speed connection st his house. [This message has been edited by kevdude61 (edited 07-18-2005).] Havoc737903
Regular posted 07-18-2005 08:01

I had the System of a Down cd Mezmerize a week or so before it came out and sold it for $3-5. I also did some promo shit with friends and stuff just to get the word out that I had copies. Seriously though. People aren't likely to pay for a cd they can get elsewhere, but if you have a cd that doesn't come out till a while from now, people will probably buy it. (Like the emo bitches who bought stuff from me. I noticed no guys bought stuff. Maybe because they actually know where the on button is on their computer.) badwiskey
Regular posted 07-18-2005 08:07

I know you can fit a lot more than 17 on a CD, but most albums have around 17 tracks, and If I put the maximum amount I could on each CD, I would make a lot less money. Certified Dead
Regular quote: posted 07-18-2005 23:03

Originally posted by badwiskey: most albums have around 17 tracks

What the hell are you talking about? Anyway, some guy I know at college copied DVDs to order, sold them for £6 (thats $11) each, even teachers bought them! Made himself quite a lot of money...

JuggaloStoner42069 posted 07-19-2005 04:52
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Originally posted by kevdude61: So I had a dream last night that a friend and I next year are going download songs and burn them to cds for people at my school for money. Has anybody ever done this before and if so, how much did you charge, any advice, how did you get word around about your service?

You will probably do pretty good, if your school is anything like my last school. A couple years back when i was like 13 i use to sell candy, cds, cell phones and other stuff. Basicly anything i could get my hangs on. When i started i would ask alot of friends if they wanted something (name some stuff) for cheap then they would tell other people. Friends i would sell cds for $2, that way people would come to me cuz it was so cheap, and it was easy to burn cds so i did. But at my school now all i sell is like drugs, guns and stuff. Like paintball or bb gujns, nothing realy. I break into peoples house and anything i find a sell or use. Makes good money Spatula Tzar
Regular posted 07-19-2005 08:46

What's your contingency plan? Some rightous bastard just might call the cops. Evil_Empire
Regular posted 07-19-2005 14:37

before burners where common some guy did this for $5 a cd made a killing i think. too late now but, haha of you buy a burnt cd for $5 you deserve to be slapped you silly bastards. Empire. shopliftTHIS
Regular posted 07-19-2005 17:53

I used to this uh..6 years ago when I was in middle school. I was the only kid with a burner so I charged $10 per cd. Made some nice money.

thugalbino
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posted 07-19-2005 18:36

that's what i do, but i sell more than just cd's. Jack games from blockbuster or somethin (i have someone do it for me, ain't worth getting trouble for) get REAL movies sell for $8. Cd's For $3. Games form $15$25. thugalbino
Regular posted 07-19-2005 18:39

i also sold porn. Paris hilton sold for alot. my bro's a legend at school cause he sold to the teachers, preinciple, and security gaurds. He got away with anything. asma123
Regular posted 07-20-2005 01:32

download cd albums. You will find them easier to sell, and for a little extra charge, you could sell custom cds, where people choose what songs they want. Borat
Regular posted 07-20-2005 02:04

computer games black_light
Regular posted 07-20-2005 18:15

i used to rip this goth kid off real bad. Id charge him for like 1 season of some gay anime show he wanted 60 bucks for 1 dvd. and he used to pay 10$ for mix cds i made him. man i miss that money. Twilight_Orange
Regular posted 07-20-2005 18:33

I did it way back when, before everyone had the internet. It was decent money, still is if you have a demand for it.

Tom Servo
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posted 07-20-2005 23:56

Three or four years ago when I was on TOTSE under a different name, there was a lot of discussion about this... Nobody ever made much money off of it. And now, considering everybody and their grandmother has DSL, you'll make damned near nothing.
Author Topic: Barcode Scam..decided to bring it back up

shopliftTHIS
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posted 07-11-2005 07:39

Haven't heard much about this scam lately, and personally I think it's one of the best out there. I used to to do it all the time, but haven't in awhile, not sure why though. But anyways, I think it wouold be completely flawless if you had a friend put the cheap barcode over the target product, put it in the back of the rack, and leave. Then you come back the next day, pick out that item, and go puchase it, for a different price of course. This way cameras could have NO way of connecting you 2 and if they cashier caught you, they couldn't do shit, because technically, you're just trying to buy the product :-). I just thought of this too. After you bought it for the cheaper price couldn't you peel off the fake barcode, and take it back to a wal-mart for example, or wherever you got it from, and get full store credit? codo3500
Regular posted 07-11-2005 07:42

that last part is similar to what we do, we damage the box and ask to get it cheaper, then take it back and get a refund of its true value. woodchuck_love
Regular posted 07-11-2005 07:43

Yup. A friend got $100 of free gas that way @ W-Mart. KwinnieBogan
Regular posted 07-11-2005 10:44

If you were in Target you could check out if it was the right box by using the product scanner.

Fraudulent
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posted 07-11-2005 11:43

where do you get the cheap barcode? Florida Snow
Regular quote: posted 07-11-2005 11:49

Originally posted by Fraudulent: where do you get the cheap barcode?

Oh, thats a tuffy, think real hard on this one. Fraudulent
Regular posted 07-11-2005 11:53

Dont jerk my balls, its 7 am, i can only assume you take it from a different product, but then its the wrong item, easily noticed? FUCK FLood control AionTheDemon
Regular quote: posted 07-11-2005 12:15

Originally posted by Fraudulent: Dont jerk my balls, its 7 am, i can only assume you take it from a different product, but then its the wrong item, easily noticed? FUCK FLood control

YOU GENERATE IT ON YOUR DAMN FUCKING COMPUTER WITH A DAMN FUCKING PROGRAM YOU KNUCKLEHEAD...

0x29A
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posted 07-11-2005 13:51

wouldnt the cashier notice? like if you print up a barcode for some generic tv set that costs $100, when theres a big bold sign on the box saying PLASMA SCREEN HDTV or whatever, not to mention how it shows up on the display? what kind of products have you guys used this on? Lord Of The Remotes
Regular posted 07-11-2005 15:56

Scan the items at a self checkout- first grab a bag, so you don't trigger the security scale, scan the item, put it in the bag and press "Skip Bagging." Then checkout. Simple. 0x29A
Regular quote: posted 07-11-2005 17:40

Originally posted by Lord Of The Remotes: Scan the items at a self checkout- first grab a bag, so you don't trigger the security scale, scan the item, put it in the bag and press "Skip Bagging." Then checkout. Simple.

HAHAHAHA... thats great!! You just gave me an idea- buy a cheap one dollar item and cut off its upc/bar code thingie.. then using blu tac or glue, tape it to your palm.. then buy all kinds of expensive items, but when you scan, make sure you expose a surface with no UPC code.. slide the item over with your palm, and bang the one dollar code gets tagged... shit, i gotta try this out later.. totse kicks ass! 5150
Regular posted 07-12-2005 01:29

u took my intellectual property from my advice on the shoe trick thread, man up

loner4life
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posted 07-12-2005 04:16

doing the upc scam these days is not such a good idea at least at wal mart and maybe target, swim went to wally world recently to do the upc trick and when the cashier scanned it in the screen said check barcode or something, lots of rfid stuff coming sooner than you think guys. Big brother is taking away our fun, google RFID you will know what I mean and you wont want to shoplift again exphile
Regular quote: posted 07-12-2005 04:41

lots of rfid stuff coming sooner than you think guys. Big brother is taking away our fun, google RFID you will know what I mean and you wont want to shoplift again[/B]

godDAMMIT! i have read so much on RFID and i'm still not exactly sure on how it gets people caught. Is it just like basically a VERY TINY security device that sets off alarms? how could it get in the way of barcoding. Are they on games/dvds/cd/etc? Cuz no store where i live has been any differnt lately. they still have the black security bars. btw, LOVE barcoding. and i never knew you could choose "Skip Bagging" to avoid weighing scales! if i woulda known that i would have pulled it off at meijers all the time! shopliftTHIS
Regular posted 07-12-2005 05:07

http://www.barcodesinc.com/generator/barcode/ I've always used that to generate my barcodes. I think it works great on CD players. Alot of cd players simply come up on the screen as "CD Player"..or if not the exact same try to get something that is about the same (it says it on the tag thing where you find the product in the store). I've done this plenty of times...good stuff.

Sliced Bread
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posted 07-12-2005 05:34

A RFID is a little sticker then sends out a tiny bit of info when it is activated, this tiny bit of info says what the product is and such, so what u really have to do is get a cheap item's upc and its RFID signal, then make a duplicate RFID and somehow deactivate the other one. But then again these RFIDs might have individual ID codes or something. RFIDS are gonna make things alot harder [This message has been edited by Sliced Bread (edited 07-12-2005).] KarEEmDaNIggA
Regular posted 07-12-2005 05:51

No gnereating it wouldn't fucking work. You got to switch them with a similar cheaper item in the store. The store COMPUTER HAS TO RECOGNIZE THE BARCODE, they won't if you generate it out of your ass. Fraudulent
Regular posted 07-12-2005 06:17

ok ok so sense this thread is a bunch of random ideas ill sum up what i understood if thats ok... -buy the "cheap" item from the store one day. -cut the barcode out -go back within time for dvds/games/cds (i think something like a PS2 would be suspicious anyone agree?) -have the barcode face-to-sticky-side of tape, with the tape exteding off each end. -find your product, slap the barcode over the original. -go to self check out. -scan -pay your fixed dues -skip bagging... -buck. Yes, no? [This message has been edited by Fraudulent (edited 07-12-2005).]

shopliftTHIS
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posted 07-12-2005 07:33

Don't you fucking tell me that generating them doesn't work. I've done this before..many times, it does fucking work. A barcode for a certain product is the same whether it is in wal-mart, target, or wherever. You write down the digits off of a product, go to that website, type them in, and it generates the barcode. Then go to whatever store, and scan it under one of those price check things..cha ching bitch, it works. CakeOD
Regular posted 07-12-2005 16:49

What are the limitations of using the barcode scam? I would assume that stuff like DVDs and video games would not work becuase they would still hvae the anti-theft strips active and stuff like that. Is there anything else that won't work with this system? And woodchuck, how did your friend use barcodes to get free gas? [This message has been edited by CakeOD (edited 07-12-2005).] faithbanks
Regular posted 07-12-2005 17:55

I did that at JCPenney and took it back to the store. I got a gift card for it and used it to "buy" a nice watch and some earrings that were behind the case. I couldn't steal them unless I had a gun and more balls than I currently do. [This message has been edited by faithbanks (edited 07-12-2005).] vonelab
Regular posted 07-12-2005 19:09

As for DVDs and such... this should still work seeing as places like Walmart have the ANTI MAGNETIC pads you rub your dvds on to deactivate the alarm tags. This would actually be one of the best uses for it seeing as walmart sells some dvds for 5 bucks... take one of those codes, put it on a new movie and the person watching over self checkout wouldnt even notice... a dvd is a dvd lol

Fraudulent
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posted 07-12-2005 20:51

well itd be nice if it worked on say a videogame, because you get it from the section, say you wanna shop around, and you switch the barcodes? 0x29A
Regular posted 07-12-2005 23:24

I know a lot of cashiers dont give a fuck, but Ive seen the screen on target when you buy a DVD- it gives the title, sometimes abbridged.. the cashiers are usually nosey fucks who like to see what dvd/games you buy because if its cheap theyll probably want to buy one for themselves, so if the display comes up as PILATES FOR WOMEN, when your holding a dvd with a big dark holographic cover titled DONNIE DARKO.. furthermore, in target specifically (though walmart is probably the same), the AP's have cameras set up over every register, cameras soo powerful they can zoom in on your credit card and read your name off of it. In addition, at the cash register, everything thats scanned can be seen by the AP's in the camera room (so they can track crooked employees). If they know you are a booster or they had been tracking you, you're pretty much fucked right there. shopliftTHIS
Regular quote: posted 07-13-2005 00:25

Originally posted by 0x29A: furthermore, in target specifically (though walmart is probably the same), the AP's have cameras set up over every register, cameras soo powerful they can zoom in on your credit card and read your name off of it. In addition, at the cash register, everything thats scanned can be seen by the AP's in the camera room (so they can track crooked employees). If they know you are a booster or they had been tracking you, you're pretty much fucked right there.

That's why it would be a good idea to have a buddy go and swich the barcodes the day before, so when they review the tapes, assuming you get caught, you're clear.

loner4life
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posted 07-13-2005 18:41

Great idea about having you or a buddy switch the barcodes and put the item back and go in the next day or so and buy the item. Only possible flaw in this could it be that the overnight stocking or inventory crew at target etc would notice when they do a quick scan of items on the rack or shelf and notice the items with the switched upc? I heard once that target at least they do whats called a quick inventory each night in the middle of the night when store is closed and everyone is in there stocking shelves at night? or am I just assuming something? shopliftTHIS
Regular quote: posted 07-13-2005 19:08

Originally posted by loner4life: Great idea about having you or a buddy switch the barcodes and put the item back and go in the next day or so and buy the item. Only possible flaw in this could it be that the overnight stocking or inventory crew at target etc would notice when they do a quick scan of items on the rack or shelf and notice the items with the switched upc? I heard once that target at least they do whats called a quick inventory each night in the middle of the night when store is closed and everyone is in there stocking shelves at night? or am I just assuming something?

Yea you're probably right so I guess you could do it all in the same day if you wanted to. ArgonPlasma2000 posted 07-13-2005 21:05
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A high frequency, high voltage demagnetizer will kill any RFID tag and will demagnetize the metal tabs under the raised barcodes on video games.

Gtterdmmerung
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posted 07-13-2005 23:06

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Originally posted by ArgonPlasma2000: A high frequency, high voltage demagnetizer will kill any RFID tag and will demagnetize the metal tabs under the raised barcodes on video games.

What kinda power are we talking about here? 0x29A
Regular posted 07-14-2005 00:45

well im going to the supermarket now, im gonna buy a 59 cent candy bar, clip the UPC in my car, tape it to my palm, go back in and buy some expensive stuff... oh how I wish supermarkets sold DVD's.. ill post the results when I get back pianoSpleen
Regular quote: posted 07-14-2005 03:01

Originally posted by Gtterdmmerung: What kinda power are we talking about here?

I'm no expert on the subject but it sounds like he's talking about those degaussing wands all good computer/TV shops/repairers carry.

shopliftTHIS
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posted 07-14-2005 05:10

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Originally posted by 0x29A: well im going to the supermarket now, im gonna buy a 59 cent candy bar, clip the UPC in my car, tape it to my palm, go back in and buy some expensive stuff... oh how I wish supermarkets sold DVD's.. ill post the results when I get back

Haha come on dude that's just..kinda dumb. You can't make it so incredibly obvious. Hey look..this kid is buying a DVD..but my screen says Snickers 59 cents..hmm... DeadlyAssassin
Regular quote: posted 07-14-2005 05:45

Originally posted by shopliftTHIS: Haven't heard much about this scam lately, and personally I think it's one of the best out there. I used to to do it all the time, but haven't in awhile, not sure why though. But anyways, I think it wouold be completely flawless if you had a friend put the cheap barcode over the target product, put it in the back of the rack, and leave. Then you come back the next day, pick out that item, and go puchase it, for a different price of course. This way cameras could have NO way of connecting you 2 and if they cashier caught you, they couldn't do shit, because technically, you're just trying to buy the product :-). I just thought of this too. After you bought it for the cheaper price couldn't you peel off the fake barcode, and take it back to a wal-mart for example, or wherever you got it from, and get full store credit?

All good and works but this most of the time...Most places want a reciept for a return even for store credit.... BTW: The idea works very well in target and you don't even have to wait a day.... Pick something have person A change codes and leave in his car... Person B buys for cheaper price has his own car to leave in. Then meet up

in some other place.... My brothers friends do it ALL the time in Target.... netfire
Regular posted 07-14-2005 06:00

This sound great for a scam on The Dollar Store Fraudulent
Regular posted 07-14-2005 07:03

Pointless but the logic works. 0x29A
Regular quote: posted 07-14-2005 07:14

Originally posted by shopliftTHIS: Haha come on dude that's just..kinda dumb. You can't make it so incredibly obvious. Hey look..this kid is buying a DVD..but my screen says Snickers 59 cents..hmm...

NO MAN, thats where you dont get it.. bwahahhaha... my supermarket has 4 freakin self-checkout lanes, and rarely is anyone even watching.. all i need to worry about is the overhead cameras, but like i said, a slip of the palm disguised as a scanning motion wouldnt raise any alarm whatsoever... i did this today, worked liek a charm... i bought some expensive hair gel and a 15 dollar tin of cookies, total cost: $2.71.. pwnage! rammstein420
Regular posted 07-14-2005 09:37

Don't the stores in your guys' states have self-checkouts? These make things a lot easier.

shopliftTHIS
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posted 07-14-2005 20:36

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Originally posted by rammstein420: Don't the stores in your guys' states have selfcheckouts? These make things a lot easier.

The wal-marts in my area don't. And the only target is like 45 minutes away..fuckin sucks. 0x29A
Regular posted 07-14-2005 20:46

I just did this today. It was surprisingly hard.. because my hands were full, and I didnt bring blu tac.. i jsut palmed the bar code.. i turned the 10 dollar tin of cookies so the bar code wasnt facing the laser, but amazingly it managed to scan the tin's barcode each time.. 2 stalled self-checkout lanes later i pretended to go back, then using my finger held the fake barcode in place and scanned it.. 89 cents for a 10 dollar tin folks.. oh yeah! the thing you have to be careful about is it announces the price out loud, and on the display its very clear what was just scanned.. plus at this store there is a guy who stands at the front monitoring the 4 checkout lanes, to make sure things are ok... make sure he isnt focused on you and make sure there arent any customers behind you and your set, but the UPC trick works like a charm Juke_box_hero
Regular posted 07-15-2005 02:56

[email protected] All you shifty bastards add me.NOW.I really wanna talk to most if not all of you. Juke_box_hero
Regular posted 07-15-2005 03:30

I just got an idea.Search for the greatest hits and platinum hits of ps2 and xbox games which are $20 and then stick that label on a full price $50 game then return it or keep it or something.With all the barcodes that site has im sure you guys can think of something genius.

KarEEmDaNIggA
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posted 07-15-2005 05:03

You all are being fucking stupid.
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"The same barcode is used in all stores"

Hello. I hope this was a fucking joke right?
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Dont tell me it doesn't work, Ive done it

Obviously you have not. Generated barcodes do not do shit in most stores. Don't do this. you cannot make your own barcode up.
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Use self checkout lines, thdy make it much easier

This is why Bad Ideas is falling aprt with retards. This scam DOES NOT WORK WORK WITH SELF CHECKOUTS. THEY WEIGH THE PRODUCT TO MATCH THE ITEM. I PERSONALLY KNOW SOMEONE WHO WAS CAUGHT AT SELF CHECKOUTS, beware. [This message has been edited by KarEEmDaNIggA (edited 07-18-2005).]

shopliftTHIS
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posted 07-15-2005 05:29

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Originally posted by KarEEmDaNIggA: You all are being fucking stupid. This is why Bad Ideas is falling aprt with retards. This scam DOES NOT WORK WORK WITH SELF CHECKOUTS. THEY WEIGH THE PRODUCT TO MATCH THE ITEM.

Um dude..you have issues. I generate barcodes all the time..using the barcode numbers off of the product, and it works like a charm. I always go and check them at the price check things first and it always works, ever tried it? Bet not..Second, a barcode for lets say Halo for xbox is the same in walmart as it is in target, just the prices in the computers for that product may be different. Don't be a dick. TheLittlestTesti
Regular posted 07-15-2005 05:30

^ Thats why you press skip bagging. Juke_box_hero
Regular posted 07-15-2005 05:47

Kareem,you dont know what the fuck your talking about.Ive tried this too and it DOES work. 0x29A
Regular quote: posted 07-15-2005 06:00

Originally posted by KarEEmDaNIggA: You all are being fucking stupid. This is why Bad Ideas is falling aprt with retards. This scam DOES NOT WORK WORK WITH SELF CHECKOUTS. THEY WEIGH THE PRODUCT TO MATCH THE ITEM.

I did this today, it DOES work...stfu n00b KarEEmDaNIggA
Regular quote: posted 07-15-2005 06:24

Originally posted by 0x29A: I did this today, it DOES work...stfu n00b

Profile for 0x29A Date Registered: 05-24-2005 Shut up dumbass. I do this too, guess what, eat shit you dumb fucker. You claim to do this when you have no idea how barcodes work. there is no such thing as a 'magic' barcode that all stores use. You have to have information on what the store uses to do this. Until that you have to switch the product. And no you stupid dumb shit, you cannot scam the self checkout lines(most places)inbecause they weigh the product which you refused to refute. [This message has been edited by KarEEmDaNIggA (edited 07-15-2005).] KarEEmDaNIggA
Regular quote: posted 07-15-2005 06:26

Originally posted by Juke_box_hero: Kareem,you dont know what the fuck your talking about. Ive tried this too and it DOES work.

Tell me something, do they not weigh it? Point to something that is incorrect.

KarEEmDaNIggA
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posted 07-15-2005 06:29

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Originally posted by shopliftTHIS: Um dude..you have issues. I generate barcodes all the time..using the barcode numbers off of the product, and it works like a charm. I always go and check them at the price check things first and it always works, ever tried it? Bet not..Second, a barcode for lets say Halo for xbox is the same in walmart as it is in target, just the prices in the computers for that product may be different. Don't be a dick.

I'll be very honest, I usually barcode with 2 people, but I alwyas switch with a similar product. but people like Bangbangbooty was on probation for going in the self checkout line with like $800 worth of stuff and paying like $50. So I do know what the fuck I am talking about. shopliftTHIS
Regular quote: posted 07-15-2005 18:09

Originally posted by KarEEmDaNIggA: I'll be very honest, I usually barcode with 2 people, but I alwyas switch with a similar product. but people like Bangbangbooty was on probation for going in the self checkout line with like $800 worth of stuff and paying like $50. So I do know what the fuck I am talking about.

And what does that have to do with anything I said?

loner4life
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posted 07-15-2005 19:03

Just some helpful advice to keep everyone here out of jail etc, DONT do the upc scam at target. Inside sources quoting here, trust me target knows about the upc trick and its been done there before alot and they are hiring investigators that work there daily and are watching along with regular ap and lp to catch someone doing the upc trick and when you go to some dumb looking woman at the cash register to check out. Everything will seem to go just cool, you hand over the cash for the items while she turns on a switch near the register or nothing happens at all until you start walking out the door and some plain clothed guy comes up to you and says "hi I'm target security can I see your receipt?" Either drop the shit and run or cooperate and deny everything because they will grill you till you almost collapse into telling them you put that label on the items. Whatever you do dont admit to anything until you talk to a lawyer dookieblaster
Regular quote: posted 07-15-2005 19:38

Originally posted by 0x29A: wouldnt the cashier notice? like if you print up a barcode for some generic tv set that costs $100, when theres a big bold sign on the box saying PLASMA SCREEN HDTV or whatever, not to mention how it shows up on the display? what kind of products have you guys used this on?

I tried this a few times. Got a laser set worth $40 for a dollar I think it was. The look on the cashier's face was priceless. I switched it for some wooden toy thing. You could obviously tell it wasn't it but she couldn't prove that I'd done it. This was done at target. E: Did this a while ago before they added the extra security, i guess. now that you put it like that, loner i guess i got lucky. [This message has been edited by dookieblaster (edited 07-15-2005).]

SmartTart
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posted 07-15-2005 20:53

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Originally posted by shopliftTHIS: Haha come on dude that's just..kinda dumb. You can't make it so incredibly obvious. Hey look..this kid is buying a DVD..but my screen says Snickers 59 cents.. hmm...

yea seriously you guys... People in general arent so dumb and lazy to not notice a .79 DVD or CD, or that kinda of stuff. If you get a candy bar, make it something that both looks similiar enough to not give it a second look AND is price-wise close enough that they wont want to (like whoever said it above) want to buy it themselves (look a little closer). SmartTart Juke_box_hero
Regular posted 07-15-2005 22:45

Hey KareemDaNigger,I just got back from the store with my uncle who like you,is completely fucking stupid.I slapped the .59$ barcode for a bottle of water that i printed out with tape over it on to a $15 dollar spaceballs dvd.He still didnt believe me,so i swiped it under the quick scan thing and low and behold it said 0.59 cents or 2 for a dollar.He still didnt believe me.I proceeded to the self check out line,took a bag off first, went thru the process ,hit "skip bagging",paid, and walked out. That was it.I didnt this less than a half hour ago at Albertsons.Now shut the fuck up,idiot. Sienide
Regular posted 07-15-2005 23:48

God, you people practically raped the poor black man. [This message has been edited by Sienide (edited 07-15-2005).]

KarEEmDaNIggA
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posted 07-16-2005 00:06

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Originally posted by Juke_box_hero: Hey KareemDaNigger,I just got back from the store with my uncle who like you,is completely fucking stupid.I slapped the .59$ barcode for a bottle of water that i printed out with tape over it on to a $15 dollar spaceballs dvd.He still didnt believe me,so i swiped it under the quick scan thing and low and behold it said 0.59 cents or 2 for a dollar.He still didnt believe me.I proceeded to the self check out line,took a bag off first, went thru the process ,hit "skip bagging",paid, and walked out. That was it.I didnt this less than a half hour ago at Albertsons.Now shut the fuck up,idiot.

Idiot? Your one to be talking douche bag, you havn't proved anything I said wrong. So you took the water's barcode and switched it. where the fuck did I say that wouldn't work? Infact I said that would INDEED work, Oh now that your calling me the "idiot" What college (if out of middle school) do you attend? What was your high school SAT score? Listen you pudgy unathletic fag, I have first hand experience with someone the has been caught going to the self checkouts. You are retarded. BTW: "KareemDaNigger" nice creative insult. Racist fag.

[This message has been edited by KarEEmDaNIggA (edited 07-16-2005).]

KarEEmDaNIggA
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posted 07-16-2005 00:11

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Originally posted by Sienide: God, you people practically raped the poor black man.

Well if getting "Raped" is ignoring what I post and calling me a "nigger" and telling me to "shut the fuck up" without looking what I type, then maybe. shopliftTHIS
Regular quote: posted 07-16-2005 03:25

Originally posted by KarEEmDaNIggA: Idiot? Your one to be talking douche bag, you havn't proved anything I said wrong. So you took the water's barcode and switched it. where the fuck did I say that wouldn't work? Infact I said that would INDEED work, Oh now that your calling me the "idiot" What college (if out of middle school) do you attend? What was your high school SAT score? Listen you pudgy unathletic fag, I have first hand experience with someone the has been caught going to the self checkouts. You are retarded. BTW: "KareemDaNigger" nice creative insult. Racist fag.

I believe he proved you wrong when he said he "printed" out a barcode, because if I remember right, earlier you were dead stuck on the fact that you couldn't generate upc's and print them yourself.

pianoSpleen
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posted 07-16-2005 03:57

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Originally posted by KarEEmDaNIggA: And no you stupid dumb shit, you cannot scam the self checkout lines

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Originally posted by KarEEmDaNIggA: where the fuck did I say that wouldn't work? Infact I said that would INDEED work,

Hmm, that sounds contradictory. </nigger> You're sounding a lot like I do before my Valium. [This message has been edited by pianoSpleen (edited 07-16-2005).] TheLittlestTesti
Regular posted 07-17-2005 07:25

Does anyone know of a good barcode gen? I've tried the one at barcodeinc but its too low quality. If for some reason you dont want to post it on here please email it to me at [email protected]

jshaw995
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posted 07-17-2005 07:39

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Originally posted by shopliftTHIS: A barcode for a certain product is the same whether it is in wal-mart, target, or wherever.

I work in a grocery store, and i would say about 80% of stores use the same 'codes' as us. It all comes down to distributers and who makes their computer systems. chances are, that it will go thru and recognize it, but i would NOT want a cashier seeing the glued on barcode. KarEEmDaNIggA
Regular quote: posted 07-17-2005 19:00

Originally posted by pianoSpleen: Hmm, that sounds contradictory. </nigger> You're sounding a lot like I do before my Valium.

No you fucking dipshit. He said that I said switching barcodes would not work. When I clearly stated it did.
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Orginally posted by juke_box_fag: like you,is completely fucking stupid.I slapped the .59$ barcode for a bottle of water that i printed out with tape over it on to a $15 dollar spaceballs dvd.

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You got to switch them with a similar cheaper item in the store

Shut the fuck up you racist homo. [This message has been edited by KarEEmDaNIggA (edited 07-17-2005).] KarEEmDaNIggA
Regular quote: posted 07-17-2005 19:02

Originally posted by shopliftTHIS: I believe he proved you wrong when he said he "printed" out a barcode, because if I remember right, earlier you were dead stuck on the fact that you couldn't generate upc's and print them yourself.

Yeah, I mis-interpreted what you said about generating barcodes. I thought you were making a random one and bringing it into the store hoping it would be a cheaper product. I didn't realize you were just using the numbers and generating an existing one. Which leads to a question, what kind of paper do the barcodes use... [This message has been edited by KarEEmDaNIggA (edited 07-17-2005).] One_Armed_Scissor posted 07-18-2005 07:46
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Originally posted by KarEEmDaNIggA: Yeah, I mis-interpreted what you said about generating barcodes. I thought you were making a random one and bringing it into the store hoping it would be a cheaper product. I didn't realize you were just using the numbers and generating an existing one. Which leads to a question, what kind of paper do the barcodes use...

You got proved wrong and now you're making excuses. How sad. A sign of intelligence is when one is able to admit they're wrong about things. You kept bitching about the whole "the items are weighed" bullshit at the self-check out lanes. Maybe you should have read the previous posts about how you can SKIP BAGGING! I think this quote applies well in this situation. "Alot of people know how to say nothing, but few people know when to."

[This message has been edited by One_Armed_Scissor (edited 07-182005).] KarEEmDaNIggA
Regular quote: posted 07-18-2005 16:08

Originally posted by One_Armed_Scissor: You got proved wrong and now you're making excuses. How sad. A sign of intelligence is when one is able to admit they're wrong about things. You kept bitching about the whole "the items are weighed" bullshit at the self-check out lanes. Maybe you should have read the previous posts about how you can SKIP BAGGING! I think this quote applies well in this situation. "Alot of people know how to say nothing, but few people know when to."

A sign of stupidity is when you read that post I say nothing about self checkouts. Shut the fuck up, you have no clue. Tell me, what fact that have I said is INCORRECT? everything that I claimed that is a fact IS TRUE. [list] Self checkouts do weigh.(And it is fucking irrelevant that there's a way around it, they still do weigh it.)
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q You cannot generate your own barcode and hope it matches something inside the store. You have to know the number, then you can generate it.

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This scam works[list]

edit: Didn't realize you are so experienced. Profile for One_Armed_Scissor Date Registered: 05-06-2005 Status: Regular Total Posts: 14 [This message has been edited by KarEEmDaNIggA (edited 07-18-2005).]

One_Armed_Scissor posted 07-18-2005 16:51
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"No gnereating it wouldn't fucking work." "Generated barcodes do not do shit in most stores. Don't do this." "This is why Bad Ideas is falling aprt with retards. This scam DOES NOT WORK WORK WITH SELF CHECKOUTS. THEY WEIGH THE PRODUCT TO MATCH THE ITEM." "You claim to do this when you have no idea how barcodes work." Because we all know you're an expert/authority on bar codes, etc. "you cannot scam the self checkout lines(most places)inbecause they weigh the product which you refused to refute." "Tell me something, do they not weigh it? Point to something that is incorrect." It was stated in posts that were posted BEFORE yours that you can SKIP BAGGING. I guess you just forgot how to read for a few minutes, right? "you havn't proved anything I said wrong." Yes we did. "What college (if out of middle school) do you attend? What was your high school SAT score?" I think we should be asking you the same thing, but I couldn't care less. "Well if getting "Raped" is ignoring what I post and calling me a "nigger" and telling me to "shut the fuck up" without looking what I type, then maybe." No one ignored your posts. Your irrelivant points were answered promptly. Cry more cuz you suck?

Oh wait... here's the best part: "And no you stupid dumb shit, you cannot scam the self checkout lines" " where the fuck did I say that wouldn't work? Infact I said that would INDEED work," "edit: Didn't realize you are so experienced. Profile for One_Armed_Scissor Date Registered: 05-06-2005 Status: Regular Total Posts: 14" Because we all know, registration dates determine how experienced one is. That's a good argument you know. Trying to discredit someone when they've proved you wrong... how sad, yet again. GG Owned. Thanks for playing. KarEEmDaNIggA
Regular quote: posted 07-18-2005 19:12

Originally posted by One_Armed_Scissor: "No gnereating it wouldn't fucking work." "Generated barcodes do not do shit in most stores. Don't do this." "This is why Bad Ideas is falling aprt with retards. This scam DOES NOT WORK WORK WITH SELF CHECKOUTS. THEY WEIGH THE PRODUCT TO MATCH THE ITEM." "You claim to do this when you have no idea how barcodes work." Because we all know you're an expert/authority on bar codes, etc. "you cannot scam the self checkout lines(most places) inbecause they weigh the product which you refused to refute." "Tell me something, do they not weigh it? Point to something that is incorrect." It was stated in posts that were posted BEFORE yours that you can SKIP BAGGING. I guess you just forgot how to read for a few minutes, right?

"you havn't proved anything I said wrong." Yes we did. "What college (if out of middle school) do you attend? What was your high school SAT score?" I think we should be asking you the same thing, but I couldn't care less. "Well if getting "Raped" is ignoring what I post and calling me a "nigger" and telling me to "shut the fuck up" without looking what I type, then maybe." No one ignored your posts. Your irrelivant points were answered promptly. Cry more cuz you suck? Oh wait... here's the best part: "And no you stupid dumb shit, you cannot scam the self checkout lines" " where the fuck did I say that wouldn't work? Infact I said that would INDEED work," "edit: Didn't realize you are so experienced. Profile for One_Armed_Scissor Date Registered: 05-06-2005 Status: Regular Total Posts: 14" Because we all know, registration dates determine how experienced one is. That's a good argument you know. Trying to discredit someone when they've proved you wrong... how sad, yet again. GG Owned. Thanks for playing.

Oh wow Owned? Haha. Where should I start... Did you "forget how to read" my previous post? You havn't proven any of those wrong. Know why? Because you can't.
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"you cannot scam the self checkout lines(most places) inbecause they weigh the product which you refused to refute." "Tell me something, do they not weigh it? Point to something

that is incorrect."

Yes? What is your point? those are both my statements. And both correct. Nice job ass hole.

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"No gnereating it wouldn't fucking work." "Generated barcodes do not do shit in most stores. Don't do this."

Oh look, taken out of context. How mature. If you read my whole post I was obviously inferring you can not make the number up yourself.
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It was stated in posts that were posted BEFORE yours that you can SKIP BAGGING. I guess you just forgot how to read for a few minutes, right?

I know someone PERSONALLY that was caught at self checkout lines, I didn't know about some stores having a "skip bagging" trick. I was stopping others so the same consequence wouldn't happen the them.
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"Well if getting "Raped" is ignoring what I post and calling me a "nigger" and telling me to "shut the fuck up" without looking what I type, then maybe." No one ignored your posts. Your irrelivant points were answered promptly. Cry more cuz you suck?

Nice mature argument there, my "irrelivant" (What the hell is that? Dumbass.)posts were answered "promptly". Uh okay, so saying 'stupid nigger' is a good comeback to "In some stores, self checkouts don't

work". I guess your most mature and "owned point" is where you tell me "go cry more 'cuz' (Use real words jackass) I suck"
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Oh wait... here's the best part: "And no you stupid dumb shit, you cannot scam the self checkout lines" " where the fuck did I say that wouldn't work? Infact I said that would INDEED work,"

Oh nice the best part, I couldn't wait for it taken out of context once again, should I congratulate you on a job well done. Let me show you it in context.
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like you,is completely fucking stupid.I slapped the .59$ barcode for a bottle of water that i printed out with tape over it on to a $15 dollar spaceballs dvd.

Is what I was responding to when I posted
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where the fuck did I say that wouldn't work? Infact I said that would INDEED work,

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edit: Didn't realize you are so experienced. Profile for One_Armed_Scissor Date Registered: 05-06-2005

Status: Regular Total Posts: 14" Because we all know, registration dates determine how experienced one is. That's a good argument you know. Trying to discredit someone when they've proved you wrong... how sad, yet again.

Hmm, I failed to see where you proved me wrong at all yet. And yes registration and number of posts have to be reasonable to give you credit. Let me give you an example because you will fail to think of one Hyptothetical situation, this couldn't actually happen. Person 1 (Scammer, main account)states: I will let you be part of a business and get $25 day by click every banner click on his site. All you have to do to sign up is send him $80 Person 2(Victim)states: How should we know this isn't bullshit Person 1 then decides to make anothe raccount to further credit himself... Person 1 (scammer, second account) states: No man, this guy is legit, I just got $500 in the mail this week. Let's say this convinces person 2 to try it. Obviously he loses his $80 bucks. Oh and to this
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"What college (if out of middle school) do you attend? What was your high school SAT score?" I think we should be asking you the same thing, but I couldn't care less.

Well, you seem like you really care, so I'll tell you this. My SAT score in highschool was above a 1400 and now I go to a respected college. I don't really give a shit if you don't believe me, I just get really angry if someone tries to argue with that.

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Owned

hmm I'm afraid not I think I can correct it for you... GG, You got owned by a nigga.

[This message has been edited by KarEEmDaNIggA (edited 07-18-2005).] One_Armed_Scissor posted 07-19-2005 00:13
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"You havn't proven any of those wrong. Know why? Because you can't." There is no need for me to when you contradict just about everything you say. "How mature. If you read my whole post I was obviously inferring you can not make the number up yourself." No one ever said anything about making up a random number. It was clearly stated that one would need to look up the numbers, etc. BEFORE printing one out. Infer better, please. Here is shopliftthis's post... I don't know how more blatantly obvious it could be that we never said make up a random code, etc. "I generate barcodes all the time..using the barcode numbers off of the product, and it works like a charm. I always go and check them at the price check things first and it always works, ever tried it?" "How mature." Talk about maturity... You can't be serious. Examples of your maturity: "You all are being fucking stupid." "Shut up dumbass. I do this too, guess what, eat shit you dumb fucker." "Listen you pudgy unathletic fag" "Racist fag" "No you fucking dipshit." "Shut the fuck up you racist homo." "Nice job ass hole." I hope you get the point... "A sign of stupidity is when you read that post I say nothing about self

checkouts." You can't be serious.... I mean honestly. "I didn't know about some stores having a "skip bagging" trick." "you cannot scam the self checkout lines(most places)inbecause they weigh the product which you refused to refute." The simple fact that you said "most places" indicates that you realize some stores have a skip bagging feature and/or don't weigh items. I don't know about you, but every single self check out place I've been to, whether in Michigan or Texas, has ALWAYS had a skip bagging feature. "I know someone PERSONALLY that was caught at self checkout lines, I didn't know about some stores having a "skip bagging" trick. I was stopping others so the same consequence wouldn't happen the them." Whether or not your friend got busted is completely irrelavant to whether or not self check out lanes have a SKIP BAGGING feature. ""irrelivant" (What the hell is that? Dumbass.)" Irrelavant- Not relevant; not applicable or pertinent; not bearing upon or serving to support; foreign; extraneous; as, testimony or arguments irrelevant to a case. Straight from dictionary.com. For someone to score a 1400 on their SAT and not know what "irrelavant" means is quite sad. Even if I happened to type it wrong, you could have presumed/inferred what I meant. Don't tell me can't infer or whatever because you made it clear you're somewhat capable. "I was obviously inferring you can not make the number up yourself." "so saying 'stupid nigger' is a good comeback to "In some stores, self checkouts don't work"." Didn't your mother tell you, two wrongs don't make a right? "And yes registration and number of posts have to be reasonable to give you credit." Ummm.... No. I'm sure if that guy from Catch Me If You Can (Frank Abignail???) suddenly joined the forums, he wouldn't have any credit at all? The fact that there is no way to judge a person's credibility, value, etc. based off their registration time and number of posts. Rather, one's "credibility" should be based off the content of their posts; not number of posts. Your little scenario that you posed is just ridiculous. "Well, you seem like you really care, so I'll tell you this. My SAT score in highschool was above a 1400 and now I go to a respected college. I don't really give a shit if you don't believe me, I just get really angry if someone tries to argue with that." No one was trying to argue with you on this. Stop trying to legitimize yourself with whatever educational background

you may have had. "You got owned by a nigga." Weren't you the one telling people to stop being racist? I'm done with whatever argument this is. This is pretty ridiculous. There is no need for me to prove you wrong when it's clearly evident you've contradicted yourself on numerous occassions. I'm sure most would agree with me on this. Good day. KarEEmDaNIggA
Regular quote: posted 07-19-2005 01:28

Originally posted by One_Armed_Scissor: "You havn't proven any of those wrong. Know why? Because you can't." There is no need for me to when you contradict just about everything you say. "How mature. If you read my whole post I was obviously inferring you can not make the number up yourself." No one ever said anything about making up a random number. It was clearly stated that one would need to look up the numbers, etc. BEFORE printing one out. Infer better, please. Here is shopliftthis's post... I don't know how more blatantly obvious it could be that we never said make up a random code, etc. "I generate barcodes all the time..using the barcode numbers off of the product, and it works like a charm. I always go and check them at the price check things first and it always works, ever tried it?" "How mature." Talk about maturity... You can't be serious. Examples of your maturity: "You all are being fucking stupid." "Shut up dumbass. I do this too, guess what, eat shit you dumb fucker." "Listen you pudgy unathletic fag" "Racist fag" "No you fucking dipshit." "Shut the fuck up you racist homo." "Nice job ass hole." I hope you get the point...

"A sign of stupidity is when you read that post I say nothing about self checkouts." You can't be serious.... I mean honestly. "I didn't know about some stores having a "skip bagging" trick." "you cannot scam the self checkout lines(most places) inbecause they weigh the product which you refused to refute." The simple fact that you said "most places" indicates that you realize some stores have a skip bagging feature and/or don't weigh items. I don't know about you, but every single self check out place I've been to, whether in Michigan or Texas, has ALWAYS had a skip bagging feature. "I know someone PERSONALLY that was caught at self checkout lines, I didn't know about some stores having a "skip bagging" trick. I was stopping others so the same consequence wouldn't happen the them." Whether or not your friend got busted is completely irrelavant to whether or not self check out lanes have a SKIP BAGGING feature. ""irrelivant" (What the hell is that? Dumbass.)" Irrelavant- Not relevant; not applicable or pertinent; not bearing upon or serving to support; foreign; extraneous; as, testimony or arguments irrelevant to a case. Straight from dictionary.com. For someone to score a 1400 on their SAT and not know what "irrelavant" means is quite sad. Even if I happened to type it wrong, you could have presumed/inferred what I meant. Don't tell me can't infer or whatever because you made it clear you're somewhat capable. "I was obviously [b]inferring you can not make the number up yourself." "so saying 'stupid nigger' is a good comeback to "In some stores, self checkouts don't work"." Didn't your mother tell you, two wrongs don't make a right? "And yes registration and number of posts have to be reasonable to give you credit." Ummm.... No. I'm sure if that guy from Catch Me If You Can (Frank Abignail???) suddenly joined the forums, he wouldn't have any credit at all? The fact that there is no way to judge a person's credibility, value, etc. based off their registration time and number of posts. Rather, one's "credibility" should

be based off the content of their posts; not number of posts. Your little scenario that you posed is just ridiculous. "Well, you seem like you really care, so I'll tell you this. My SAT score in highschool was above a 1400 and now I go to a respected college. I don't really give a shit if you don't believe me, I just get really angry if someone tries to argue with that." No one was trying to argue with you on this. Stop trying to legitimize yourself with whatever educational background you may have had. "You got owned by a nigga." Weren't you the one telling people to stop being racist? I'm done with whatever argument this is. This is pretty ridiculous. There is no need for me to prove you wrong when it's clearly evident you've contradicted yourself on numerous occassions. I'm sure most would agree with me on this. Good day.[/B]

I can't believe your set on making a black guy look bad, fucking prick. You continue to take things way out of context, throw racist slurs, and make up bogus bullshit. I would like to see if you would actually talk to me like this in person...
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"You havn't proven any of those wrong. Know why? Because you can't." There is no need for me to when you contradict just about everything you say.

Hello Idiot! YOU HAVN'T CORRECTLY CONTRADICTED A SINGLE THING I SAID.
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"How mature. If you read my whole post I was obviously inferring you can not make the number up yourself." No one ever said anything about making up a random

number. It was clearly stated that one would need to look up the numbers, etc. BEFORE printing one out. Infer better,

Funny you flame me for making up "bullshit excuses" when I told ShopliftTHIS I mis-interpreted what he said. This was my first post
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The store COMPUTER HAS TO RECOGNIZE THE BARCODE, they won't if you generate it out of your ass.

Notice how I said "generate it out fo your ass" that means the same thing as coming up with it in thin air. I thought someone as "smart" as you could figure that out. And that's why later on I told ShopliftTHIS
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Yeah, I mis-interpreted what you said about generating barcodes. I thought you were making a random one and bringing it into the store hoping it would be a cheaper product. I didn't realize you were just using the numbers and generating an existing one. Which leads to a question, what kind of paper do the barcodes use...

I don't think I could of made myself clearer.
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"How mature." Talk about maturity... You can't be serious.

ONCE AGAIN, OUT OF CONTEXT Is it possible for you to stop this? Everyone one of your comebacks has been a quote some where in the middle of my post.

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""irrelivant" (What the hell is that? Dumbass.)" Irrelavant- Not relevant; not applicable or pertinent; not bearing upon or serving to support; foreign; extraneous; as, testimony or arguments irrelevant to a case. Straight from dictionary.com.

Notice how 'irrelivant' and 'irrelavant' are two different words? Haha, not only that but you still can't spell irrelevant. Nice job, but you just discredited yourself there. You see, I can recognize the difference between a typo and when someone actually doesn't know how to spell the word. Which is what I exposed there. But let's drop this because this is IRRELEVANT.
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"A sign of stupidity is when you read that post I say nothing about self checkouts." You can't be serious.... I mean honestly.

ONCE AGAIN, OUT OF CONTEXT You were flaming me on the post before, when I didn't say one thing about self checkouts in that post. Did you already forget that?

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The simple fact that you said "most places" indicates that you realize some stores have a skip bagging feature and/or don't weigh items. I don't know about you, but every single self check out place I've been to, whether in Michigan or Texas, has ALWAYS had a skip bagging feature.

We are at agreement here. I congratulate you though for never seeing a

skip bagging feature..
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"I know someone PERSONALLY that was caught at self checkout lines, I didn't know about some stores having a "skip bagging" trick. I was stopping others so the same consequence wouldn't happen the them." Whether or not your friend got busted is completely irrelavant to whether or not self check out lanes have a SKIP BAGGING feature

I know this man, I was worried the same thing would happen to my friend as soon as I saw the words self checkout.

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"You got owned by a nigga." Weren't you the one telling people to stop being racist?

A "nigga" (which I was calling myself) is not the same thing as a "nigger" Look, let's keep race insults aside.
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"And yes registration and number of posts have to be reasonable to give you credit." Ummm.... No. I'm sure if that guy from Catch Me If You Can (Frank Abignail???) suddenly joined the forums, he wouldn't have any credit at all? The fact that there is no way to judge a person's credibility, value, etc. based off their registration time and number of posts. Rather, one's "credibility" should be based off the content of their posts; not number of posts.

Okay, but how do we know the content of one's post if they only posted 3 or 4 times. You seem to refuse to read, read my example how it can fool you. The example is obviously exaggerated.

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I'm done with whatever argument this is. This is pretty ridiculous. There is no need for me to prove you wrong when it's clearly evident you've contradicted yourself on numerous occassions. I'm sure most would agree with me on this. Good day

Well, you didn't prove anything wrong. ... But, alright Good day to you. I hope you have nothing against me.(haha)

To everyone else: Sorry for all the pointless bullshit that's on this page if you took the time to read this. [This message has been edited by KarEEmDaNIggA (edited 07-19-2005).] Daz
Regular posted 07-19-2005 03:15

KarEEmDaNIggA, get the fuck off my Totse. KarEEmDaNIggA
Regular quote: posted 07-19-2005 03:40

Originally posted by Daz: KarEEmDaNIggA, get the fuck off my Totse.

k.

Mitty
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posted 07-19-2005 03:58

I had a great idea for stealing from Wal-Mart. The other day I was at a Super Wal-Mart. My friend and I bought some stuff and walked out and the securtiy alarm went off. But I was walking out at the same time at 10 other people. We all kind of just looked at each other confused and kept walking. No one pursued any of us. I realized at that point that I could have stolen like a grand of stuff and not have gotten caught. It might not work with a young punky kid, though....because Wal-Mart might be more likely to stop them...

shopliftTHIS
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posted 07-19-2005 18:04

Okay. Kareem and One, you both have way too much time on your hands to type a page for every post. Kareem, admit it..you were proved wrong and now you're being a pussy about it, we all know. I would suggest that you get the fuck out of bad ideas, and totse for that matter, until you know what the fuck you are talking about. KarEEmDaNIggA
Regular posted 07-20-2005 04:22

One thing shopliftTHIS, how can I be wrong about a personal experience. Never said the scam in general doesn't work... All I said I know someone who was caught at self checkout lines from barcoding because they weighed the product. Everything else said will probably work. Read my previous rants for detail. Fine you know what, whatever, I'm wrong.(Not sure what but okay) [This message has been edited by KarEEmDaNIggA (edited 07-21-2005).] Juke_box_hero
Regular posted 07-21-2005 04:07

WTF are you talking about Kareem.I run 3 miles daily you idiot.Oh and today, despite all your negative comments on this and why it wouldnt work i got a few more dvd's and 3 pounds of fried chicken and 4 pounds of "zesty wings" from albertsons.Hehe,i stole chicken.

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Topic:

Shoplifting discussion [keep all shoplifting posts here]

Vizzini
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posted 06-25-2005 09:29

I'm going to try this out and see how it goes, if it doesn't work out I'll trash this thread. To stop all the shoplifting threads and info being repeated again and again, all shoplifting questions/discussion should be posted in this thread. Other threads will be closed. joecool89
Regular posted 06-25-2005 10:49

Well ok I guess I just found this forum dedicated to shoplifting. Well not dedicated but has a popular shoplifing section. If you already know about it keep your comments to yourself. http://tinyurl.com/asovn davetolomy
Regular posted 06-25-2005 11:30

[URL=http: //www.tots e.com/bbs/ Archives/A rchive-000 009/HTML/2 0030714-7- 004303.htm l]http://www.totse.com/bbs/Archives/Archive000009/HTML/20030714-7-004303.html[/URL] People should definitly check out this thread in the leisure archives by Scuzz Elo. It covers many things. http://tinyurl.com/bpct7 First link broke, click here. Oh and sorry if the link fucks up. [This message has been edited by davetolomy (edited 06-25-2005).] Chris1875
Regular posted 06-25-2005 11:50

The biggest thing ive ever shoplifted is Chewing Gum, how about you guys? Dangermouse
Regular posted 06-25-2005 12:01

I think i will post where I feel like... Bitch...

Vizzini
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posted 06-25-2005 12:25

quote:

Originally posted by Dangermouse: I think i will post where I feel like... Bitch...

...and have the thread locked. derrodude
Regular posted 06-25-2005 12:53

you guys ever stolen those bbq sparker things? elf
Regular posted 06-25-2005 13:21

Once, when I worked at a supermarket, I would steal lots of food and other random stuff. And sometimes I would even eat food off the shelf while I was working. SleepNowInTheFire posted 06-25-2005 14:09
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Maybe now a 'Put all your retarded shit ideas on revenge on fat chicks and jocks here thread' Just a though. Tokolosh
Regular posted 06-25-2005 14:23

Use lifts to your advantage.

Dangermouse
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posted 06-25-2005 14:48

quote:

Originally posted by Vizzini: ...and have the thread locked.

Does that include the bullets from my gun? [This message has been edited by Dangermouse (edited 06-26-2005).] Knight Of Virtue
Regular posted 06-25-2005 14:58

On Thursday I took a spray can of clothing waterproofer from Kohls(sp?). I just put it in my pants and left, no alarm. bobandjohn3
Regular posted 06-25-2005 15:13

I just recently got caught at walmart stealing a ps2 controller. That is the first time I've got caught out of about 95 times (pretty good odds too). I was half asleep when I did it. I've stole ps2's controllers games movies, entire box sets. It's not that hard you just have to be good at what you do. My tips are always have a razor blade stay hunched over and if you EVER feel like its not going to happen, dump the shit its really not worth getting caught.

chainy
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posted 06-25-2005 16:22

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Originally posted by derrodude: you guys ever stolen those bbq sparker things?

I was building a potatoe cannon and I needed one of those but when I went to Home Depot it was 12 fucking dollars. I was extremely tempted to shoplift it, but since I stopped a few months prior I decided to just buy it. That's really the only time I've been tempted to shoplift since I

stopped.

faithbanks
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posted 06-25-2005 17:17

My favorite boosting tip is the push out. Oh shucks now! 1. The Push-Out: I absolutely love the pushout for getting out of the stores with lots of free shit. The pushout works best in grocery stores, but don’t despair: grocery stores have lots of drugs to O.D. on such as Aleve and they have kick ass health and beauty products. They have the best vitamins and lots of make up, lotions and tampons you can get away with. Oh and yes, let’s not forget the food. Now, let’s get ready to purloin some sirloin shall we? First, have the right mindset when you roll into the store. This is one case when society is right…your attitude determines your latitude, or at the very least it determines whether you get busted or not. Don’t think that you’re doing anything wrong or else you’ll look suspicious and loss prevention will be on your ass like white on rice. You’re just a normal shopper out to get yours. Second, dress is also important. You don’t have to look like your going to one of the bourgeoisie luncheons, but don’t look like you can’t afford new shoes but yet you’re wheeling around with hundreds of dollars worth of crap in your cart. Third, you need a store with carts (duh). Walk around like a normal shopper filling your cart with the things that you would like to steal. Next go to what I like to call an “alpha aisle”. The Alpha Aisle is a place that’s not likely to have security cameras, for example an aisle that has cheap shit such as rat food or paper clips that isn’t worth protecting. In this here aisle, arrange your shit so that it is as flat as possible. Cover the shit with a sweater or a bag or a coat. Make sure all of the shit is covered. I cannot stress this enough. Next conceal the mound even more with store circulars and whatever you have on you such as a makeup bag, a purse or an umbrella. Next whip out an old receipt to flash as necessary to add to your credibility. Wheel around a while to make sure the coast is clear (no plain clothes coppers on your ass) and when it is simply slide out of store, bag your shit up in the parking lot and go on about your merry way. Tips: 1. Obviously this is not going to work in a store such as Wal-Mart where they have those hags working as door greeters. It works best in grocery stores where door security and sensors are minimal or best yet, nonexistent. You may be able to get away with this in one of those Targets where there’s but one door-slut at the door who is not there 24/7 and walks around the store. Just roll out and if the alarm sounds, don’t stop unless they run up to you and ask you to. Sometimes, in Target a bullshit receipt will work. I’ll save a Target receipt from when I brought some CDS and flash that and say “oooh I’m sorry. It must be these here

CDs” and they let me roll on especially if I act innocent (which I always do) and play the goddamn game. That’s all it is. This ruse won’t work in Wal-Mart however because if the alarm goes off on you, they are going through all of your shit. That’s where my close call came in. I got off by bullshitting that I had forgotten about the stuff I left under my coat because I wasn’t sure whether I had enough money to pay for it. They just stripped me of the loot; I paid for one of the cheapest items so I wouldn’t look like an ass and I came back a couple days later and used another method of shoplifting, the purse out, to rob their asses blind. 2. While you’re about to slide out of the store, don’t look suspicious. Better yet, roll up to a display right by the exit and pretend to be looking at that while you are actually looking to make sure no nosy ass customers and LPs are watching you. 3. Always check behind you inconspicuously before you roll out through the double doors. That way if an undercover copper is watching (you can smell a cop even if he is not in uniform. They’ll be rolling up on you with one item or no items in their hands and looking dead at you), you can pretend you forgot something and go back in the store and abandon the shit. It’s not worth your freedom. 4. Watch your ass in the parking lot…you’re not home free until you’re completely off of the property (unless you’re at Target. Then you’re free as soon as you pass the sidewalk. I do love Target). . It’s best to bring your own bags to bag the shit up quickly and add to the illusion that you’re not really a booster. 5. Finally, if you get caught (you probably won’t being that you already have experience in the field), don’t despair. According to the National Association for Shoplifting Prevention (yes, there is such a thing), only half of all boosters who get busted get turned over to the cops. They’ll probably just do what they did to my ex. boyfriend and get you to sign a waiver that says you won’t come into the store again. Of course, you can come back in disguise or when a different shift of people are working. In the unlikely event that they call the po-po, don’t hesitate to bullshit them. Never admit to premeditation. Lie your friggin’ teeth out! You’ll be surprised at the good a couple of crocodile tears will do. Sling that bullshit…your level of punishment depends on it. Don’t be a smart ass because it is their personal discretion as to how hard you go down. They probably won’t take you as far as they did Winona, but even with her, she didn’t get any jail time. 6. After awhile you’ll develop nerves of steel. This is good, but don’t get sloppy and don’t get cocky cause cocky’ll get you caught. Yes bitches I have posted this before but he said to keep all boosting shit in this thread. And so I shall. billy
Regular posted 06-25-2005 17:42

i stolen $1000s worth of dvds by the old' using a razor to cut along the sides of the dvd case and popping the dvd out and pocketing it. I have 2 cd book cases full of stolen dvds.

soro_one
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posted 06-25-2005 18:04

Ok, How fucking hard can it be to shoplift? You walk in take what you want make sure no one or any cameras see you and walk out. If you want A DVD/CD cut open the package it's in look for detectors on it if there is one peel it off. It's not that fucking hard. dontfeelbad
Regular posted 06-25-2005 20:34

Once me and a few of my buddys went on a stealing spree... We jacked like 200+ dollars in cap guns... like... 30 packs of model rocket engins... and like a backpack of beef jerky over a 4 period(sp?) day... We got caught on the jerky :'( rammstein666
Regular posted 06-25-2005 21:29

i have stolen 1000s of dollars worth of stuff and never got caught.. till that time i stole a rubics cube chris_the_drummer posted 06-25-2005 22:08
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my friend got turned over to the cops for stealing a crayon from wal-mart. [This message has been edited by chris_the_drummer (edited 06-252005).] soro_one
Regular posted 06-25-2005 22:39

I've been shoplifting for 5 years I've been caught twice. Once I was 10 at a dollar store stealing pokeman cards (lol) We stupidly confessed and we were let go to our parents (me and a friend) and the sencond was a few months ago some chinese market (only white kid in there) I guess those sneaky little fuckers followed me and stopped me RIGHT before I walked out (thank god) because I got out of the whole thing saying that I didn't actually leave the store and I intended to pay for it but I said because of the mis-satisfaction of being judged like that I was getting the stuff elsewhere

Santa Clause
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posted 06-26-2005 04:26

How would one go about taking a dvd or two into bathrooms or dressing rooms? Lets say one would take the dvds he wanted , goto bathroom , cut open the box thing , take dvd , pocket , and return the case to make it look good on camera. And I always had the idea to throw an item above or on the side of the scanner things at the doors. IM sure it wont work , but it would be funny as hell if someone tried it

0x29A
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posted 06-26-2005 04:38

lol... im always amused at people who like to read up about shoplifting on the internet.. its like those nerds who like to read txt files about how to pick girls up... shoplifting is an art, its not something you'll learn reading up a forum... also, to the thread starter, fuck you... later on im going to start a new shoplifting thread, you can smoke my cock joecool89
Regular quote: posted 06-26-2005 10:07

Originally posted by Santa Clause: How would one go about taking a dvd or two into bathrooms or dressing rooms? Lets say one would take the dvds he wanted , goto bathroom , cut open the box thing , take dvd , pocket , and return the case to make it look good on camera. And I always had the idea to throw an item above or on the side of the scanner things at the doors. IM sure it wont work , but it would be funny as hell if someone tried it

Yeah that's pretty much it but be careful when you go in the bathroom cause if there is people around and they hear you making a rattling noise (when you take the wrapper off the case it makes a shit load of noise) because if they are one of those goody two shoes could rat you out. Also there could be an LP (Loss Prevention) in there. Although it is a big no no

for an LP to be in the bathroom unless they use it sometimes they do it anyway. joecool89
Regular posted 06-26-2005 10:13

Just remembered something. When you open the dvd case bring along a razor blade and hide it behind the battery of a cell phone so they can't prove it was premeditated. And cut it along the top where the two parts of the case separate and down the side don't do it on the bottom. Then open it, push the little button thing and pocket the dvd and close it back up. So when you leave the bathroom it still looks like its unopen and your in the clear. Then stand near the door and look like you don't want it and put it down and walk out or look in your wallet and like you don't have any money then leave. If LP confronts you run like the wind. Most stores have a no chase poilcy. Not all just most [This message has been edited by joecool89 (edited 06-26-2005).] Santa Clause
Regular posted 06-26-2005 18:35

I have a nice plan now. Its exactly as I said above only with a friend. We come in at seprate times. We both look around for a bit and shop around. Ill call his cell phone , he goes to the bathroom and checks to see if anyone is in there. He sends me a random txt message or calls me to tell me there is no one in there. I pick up the dvd , walk to the bathroom , open , etc leave. Note that he comes outta the bathroom before i go in there. One question now tho , lets say a person wanted to do that. How would the partner outside of the bathroom go about getting rid of people who want to use the bathroom? lordkiller
Regular posted 06-26-2005 20:28

houses dont count but umm... dvd's from wal-mart.. I been chased by an LP well I think it was he followed me and tried to wright my license plate down but i got away to quick, ... if an lp or employee grabbed you would you knock the fuck outta them or run?

squeegee
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posted 06-26-2005 21:03

quote:

Originally posted by 0x29A: lol... im always amused at people who like to read up about shoplifting on the internet.. its like those nerds who like to read txt files about how to pick girls up... shoplifting is an art, its not something you'll learn reading up a forum... also, to the thread starter, fuck you... later on im going to start a new shoplifting thread, you can smoke my cock

Vizzini is a good moderator, shithead. Only mods can make official type threads. woodchuck_love
Regular quote: posted 06-26-2005 21:13

Originally posted by 0x29A: lol... im always amused at people who like to read up about shoplifting on the internet.. its like those nerds who like to read txt files about how to pick girls up... shoplifting is an art, its not something you'll learn reading up a forum... also, to the thread starter, fuck you... later on im going to start a new shoplifting thread, you can smoke my cock

what the fuck, dude. there's a lot more to shoplifting than just shoving shit down your pants. read and learn.

Somebody
Regular

posted 06-26-2005 21:23

-Yesterday I stole supplements. Pump-tech and thermogain. (Gotta look good for the beach.) I just grabbed them and walked out. I saw there wasn't a device on it but I thought there might of been 1 inside. There wasn't. -Tommorow I want to steal one of them nice quicksilver bathing suits from Peebles. They're like $40. I need to get those damn tags off. Not the ink release one but the other model. -Anyone here shoplift clothes? "lol... im always amused at people who like to read up about shoplifting on the internet.. its like those nerds who like to read txt files about how to pick girls up... " -My tip on picking girls up is find a really lite on. -However if you want to pick up girls log on to your p2p go to documents and look up David DeAngelo. Knowledge is power; use it. [This message has been edited by Somebody (edited 06-26-2005).] loner4life
Regular posted 06-26-2005 21:35

if you do the pushout, will lp get suspicious if you load up too many things in the cart and shop through store like normal? if you bolt out the emergency exit in wmart or t**get will the door open right away or does it have a delay like best buy has a 15 second delay after you push the bar to open the door? chainy
Regular posted 06-26-2005 23:17

I work in a grocery store and here are some things you might wanna know. They do have camera's and they are taping you, but no one is ever watching the camera's, and the 1 monitor they have is always tuned to the checkout aisles. If you wanna steal stuff, the best thing to do would be to just walk out the door with a cartful of stuff when the store's real busy. See, when the store isn't busy the cashiers and baggers are always watching customers that haven't checked out to see if they can help them, so make sure everyone is occupied. According to one of the administrators, they catch people shoplifting all the time, but I have yet to see it. We're trained to approach people we think might be stealing and ask, "Is there anything I can help you find?" Use your brain if that happens: someone thinks you're suspicious so just drop it and leave. Also, if you're caught they said you'll probably just be banned from the store and it's unlikely they'll call the police. I went to a juvenile arraignment courthouse a few weeks ago and about

half the people there were there for shoplifting. All the kids there had stolen stuff worth less than 100 dollars, and here's what happened. Most of the time you just have to do community service, and you'll be legally banned from the store. Also, if someone else was with you you'll probably not be allowed to contact that person ever again. You'll also have to pay restitution if you haven't already, and $50 dollars in legal fees. lazyrocker1
Regular posted 06-27-2005 03:12

Helpful, thanks. AllShallPerish
Regular posted 06-27-2005 04:27

hold the mayo. playboy311
Regular posted 06-27-2005 04:51

well i guess ill give tips on shoplifting clothing, which is something i do all the time. first off u need a knife, and baggy ass clothing on, also a baggy sweatjacket would help. grab like 4 shirts u like and 4 pants u like, and go into the changing room (if store allows that much clothing) but if there is hella workers around at the dressing room dont do this(usually works best at places like jcpennys,macys,gottchalks ect barely any workers ever around the rooms) then when in there start prying those lil alarm tags off. They are quiet easy specially the non-ink ones. The ones that are tan and circular are hard, the tan, long thin sorta like ones are easy as hell!. only do this to about 2 shirt and 2 pants, then put the pants and shirt on under the clothing u walked in with (thats why u need baggy clothes) then walk out with the other 2 shirts and pants and cameras or workers wont be able to notice a damn thing. if all goes bad RUN RUN RUN!!!! I have had only to run once and they dont do shit. Splinter7
Regular posted 06-27-2005 07:24

A good shoplifting article can be found here - http://www.spundoogle.com/ articles/shoplift.htm Hope that helps.

faithbanks
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posted 06-27-2005 17:17

quote:

Originally posted by soro_one: Ok, How fucking hard can it be to shoplift? You walk in take what you want make sure no one or any cameras see you and walk out. If you want A DVD/CD cut open the package it's in look for detectors on it if there is one peel it off. It's not that fucking hard.

If you want to be a prolifit purloiner and to stay out of the jug it is. The higher up the stores, the higher the risk. The more you steal, the higher you risk. I remember stealing a burgandy winter coat out of JC Penney this past winter. If I had gotten caught, I would've been screwed. Thank God for dressing rooms and pocket knives! lazyrocker1
Regular posted 06-27-2005 17:38

^ Aren't you the guy that calls stealing "boosting?" faithbanks
Regular quote: posted 06-27-2005 20:55

Originally posted by Santa Clause: I have a nice plan now. One question now tho , lets say a person wanted to do that. How would the partner outside of the bathroom go about getting rid of people who want to use the bathroom?

I don't use bathrooms. I use dressing rooms for my boosting. It's just easier. Or your friend could always just tell people that it is flooded and that he is waiting for the janitor.

faithbanks
Regular

posted 06-27-2005 20:58

quote:

Originally posted by lazyrocker1: ^ Aren't you the guy that calls stealing "boosting?"

Yes, am I am NOT a DUDE! I like the term boosting better. It makes what I am doing sound a little less illegal faithbanks
Regular posted 06-27-2005 21:03

Hear ye, hear ye The Shoplifter's Ten Commandments Heed the words of your heathenly Mother so that your days of crime shall be long and prosperous. The Archeangels of Greed have prepared a place for you that overfloweth with milk, honey and make-up. Those places are called stores and your heathenly Mother has given you dominion over them for you are Her chosen ones. The website www.totse.com makes the heart of your heathenly Mother glad. Those who chill on TOTSE have something in common with Faith. You share a spark of the divine with Her and she is pleased to call you enlightened ones her children. "Come dwell with me and ye shall be my people and I shall be your Crook!" saith Faith. But, if you heed not the words of thy Mother Faith, your days of crime shall be shortened. There shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth for Faith shall rain down Loss Prevention agents upon your heads and ye shall be scattered unto the farthest corners of the prisons! Thus saith Faith: 1. Watch thy ass in the parking lot! With most stores, you're not home free until you're off of all of their property. 2. Let not what you wear defile you! Don't roll around Target looking as if you can't afford new shoes, but you're wheeling around with hundreds of dollars worth of watches, clothes and CDs in your cart. 3. Remember, what profiteth a man if he gains the whole wardrobe, but gets caught at the door? If you purloin a $75 pair of sneakers from Sears, that's nothing if you get busted and have to pay a fine. 4. Be ware of false prophets and undercover cops. If you truly have the spirit of Faith within your heart, you can smell a cop even if he weareth

not his uniform and totes no gat. 5. If you are captured, then your Faith is being tested. But Faith so loves you, She gave her own begotton tip: never admit to premeditation and they'll go easier on you! 6. Pride goeth before a bust. The man who is cocky, gets sloppy and then gets caught! 7. If a loss prevention officer commandeth that thou goest into the security room and taketh you by the arm, I command thee to give him your other arm and your cooperation as well. Sling that bullshit! Cry! Weep! Wail! Gnash those teeth! It's his personal discretion as to how hard you go down. Sometimes they calleth not the po-po if thy Faith is strong! 8. I shall know ye by your tools. Good boosters tote pocket knives for those really tough tags. 9. Honour thy security cameras and two-way mirrors. Bow down before them in fear! As thou boweth, make sure thy ass is blocking the view of the merchandise that you're fixing up. 10. If a loss prevention officer shall chase after you and if he shall smite you across thy ass with a nightstick...beat the shit out of him and then sue the place! Real cops are the only ones who have the right to smithest thee across thy ass with a nightstick!(And only when you're a threat to them and/or armed! And not over some goddamned stealing either unless it's a bank robbery ! ) And remember, even unto the end of this Aisle, I am with you. I shall never forsake you. I shall never steal from thee! (Unless your name is Dillards or Nordstorm's or Target or Wal-Mart...) Faith hath spoken!

Ben1201
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posted 06-27-2005 21:18

I shoplifted so much shit. At least 20 XBOX and PS2 games, a CD Player, and random stuff when I was bored. I stole chocolate milk and lighters a lot from the drug store. It gave me such a rush, and I was skilled. I got caught last spring stealing a bottle of Mountain Dew and a CD and it crushed my confidence. Good thing I was only 16, the cops didn't give me a harsh punishment. I haven't shoplifted ever since.

dontfeelbad
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posted 06-28-2005 02:45

When you shop lift something couldn't you just, go up... Grab the display (or one out the the box) the put it in your inside pocket or sumin, then grab something else with a tag... and try to walk out... Then as you walk out, the tag goes off on both items, you just drop the one that you don't want... (Did I forget to scream "OH SHIT") and just run, Make sure people see you drop it. Ya think it'll work? fire_jade
Regular quote: posted 06-28-2005 05:57

Originally posted by 0x29A: lol... im always amused at people who like to read up about shoplifting on the internet.. its like those nerds who like to read txt files about how to pick girls up... shoplifting is an art, its not something you'll learn reading up a forum... also, to the thread starter, fuck you... later on im going to start a new shoplifting thread, you can smoke my cock

The thread starter happens to be the moderator of this forum, so why don't you go smoke some cock. 00258
Regular quote: posted 06-28-2005 05:59

Originally posted by faithbanks: Yes, am I am NOT a DUDE! I like the term boosting better. It makes what I am doing sound a little less illegal

Dumb bitch.

faithbanks
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posted 06-28-2005 16:58

quote:

Originally posted by 00258: Dumb bitch.

Dumb son of a bitch. count
Regular posted 06-29-2005 14:18

Bump, so people know it's still here. faithbanks
Regular quote: posted 06-29-2005 19:39

Originally posted by count: Bump, so people know it's still here.

Yes, we can't let my favorite topic get buried can we? faithbanks
Regular posted 06-29-2005 20:03

Since there is so much female bashing going on, I’m going to post of method of BOOSTING that works best on chicks. It may also work on a dude for small items that he can pocket or otherwise conceal on his person. This works best in busy stores, but I’ve also pulled it off in Dillard’s on a relatively empty day. Anyhow, get a shopping cart or in a higher up store shopping bag (they have these at mall department stores where I live. They are black mesh and have a security tag on them to force you to surrender them when you finish shopping) and fill it with as much loot as you can realistically carry out in your purse, handbag or on your person. Next, roll over to the clothing department and select about three articles of clothing with large pockets. A good choice would be an oversized sweatshirt or a raincoat. Pick an “alpha aisle” and place the merchandise

in the clothes pockets and crevices (this will not get you jailed because it is not as if you have stuffed it into your clothes, you have simply put their merchandise into their merchandise…according to the law you haven’t attempted to steal anything yet). Make sure the loot is not visible from the outside of the clothes. Take the clothes into the dressing room and front like your going to try them on. Once you get into the dressing room, then that’s your safe haven. Don’t be deterred by those little signs on the mirrors that say “we prosecute shoplifters’. Legally, that sign is the only security they can have in the dressing room. Even if some perverted manager has cameras in the dressing room and they catch you stealing they can’t use the evidence because it was illegally obtained evidence. What will cause the stores more hardship? You boosting out some jewelry OR the store being slapped with a $25 million dollar sexual harassment lawsuit. In the dressing room, just take the merchandise out of its packaging and/ or rip off the tags and sensors (try to do this quietly). Bring regular scissors or something like that to get the tags off if necessary. Stuff the shit in your bag or conceal on your body. As for the old cartons and packaging, leave them in the clothes that you’re supposedly trying on or bring a little plastic bag to stuff the trash in and dispose of it in a trashcan in the bathroom. Conceal the “trash bag” with the waistband method that I’ll detail for you later. I prefer the latter because it fouls them up when they try to figure out how people are leaving with the merchandise. If they ever catch on, they’ll have people checking the crevices of the clothing that you are “trying on” and then you are dead meat. After the shit is in your bag, leave the dressing room, put the clothing back on the rack and cruise out of the store. It’s that damn simple. The thing you have to watch out for is the dressing room associate (if there is one). Before you actually use this method in a store, watch them as they check people in. If they check the pockets of the clothing before you are even allowed to go in, then you’re screwed, use another method of shoplifting. A variation of the bag out also works for clothing. Just gather the clothing that you would like to steal and gather some dummy pieces that are just for decoy. Put the dummy pieces over the real ones and go into the dressing room. Detag and stuff it in a “Nordstrom’s” bag that you have with you or simply fold it up and tuck it in the waistband of the pants that you are wearing (wear pants that have a lot of give in the waist or that are a little too big in general) and pull the oversized shirt that you are wearing over that and haul out of the room and make sure an associate sees you put the dummy clothes back on the rack. This will throw them off as they are expecting to see people dip in with clothes and come out with nothing. Cheers!

howmanytimes13
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posted 06-29-2005 20:40

i stole a house.....

AllShallPerish
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posted 06-30-2005 03:30

I know you guys need your boxset startrek dvd's from wal - mart..but oh wait! theres black chords running all around it and will make a loud noise when cut! haha, I got the simpsons season 3 by taking one of those, and walking into the customer service bathroom (usually in the back) and cutting the chords under toilet water..no sound! by the way...hands are washable... peace faithbanks
Regular posted 06-30-2005 17:42

Thy Loss Prevention Thy Loss Prevention; I shall not want for shit! *I taketh everything from jewelry to medicine: I leadeth thee on wild goose chases! *Ye may changeth thy methods of security, but ye shall never outsmart me for I am the jank and I always will be! *Yea, though I walk through the aisles of Hecht's, I will fear no evil: my skills are well honed, My scissors and my aluminum foil they assist me. *Thou stocketh thy shelves before me, not knowing that you're in the prescence of thine enemy: thy stupidity is staggering, therefore my cart runneth over. *Ye looketh for the wrong people. Therefore, I will dwell in thy ailses undetected forever. Peace out bitches ! loner4life
Regular posted 07-01-2005 06:38

swim went by wally world the other day and noticed a normal looking employee with the blue vest on as usual but he was standing outside the building in front of one of the emergency exit doors talking into a cellphone. Was someone in the act of doing something like bolting out that door? anyone here who knows alot about wally security post some tips here cuz swim wants to know what to watch for besides the obvious plain clothed shoppers, door greeters and the common phrase heard over the intercom letting you know to bolt outta there and ditch your shit immediately before you leave is "security camera scan isle number please" and sometimes its repeated once again right after and that means boogie with nothing on you. also does anyone have any clue as to how long swim should wait before hitting the same or nearby store after a big score like over a few hundred worth?

faithbanks
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posted 07-02-2005 17:33

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Originally posted by loner4life: swim went by wally world the other day and noticed a normal looking employee with the blue vest on as usual but he was standing outside the building in front of one of the emergency exit doors talking into a cellphone. Was someone in the act of doing something like bolting out that door? anyone here who knows alot about wally security post some tips here cuz swim wants to know what to watch for besides the obvious plain clothed shoppers, door greeters and the common phrase heard over the intercom letting you know to bolt outta there and ditch your shit immediately before you leave is "security camera scan isle number please" and sometimes its repeated once again right after and that means boogie with nothing on you. also does anyone have any clue as to how long swim should wait before hitting the same or nearby store after a big score like over a few hundred worth?

Normal looking employees can be your worst enemies because Loss Prevention is one of the coolest jobs in the store. They are eager to prove that they can take down boosters as well as the LP, so watch your ass. Don’t just chill because they are wearing blue. Someone was probably trying to bolt when that guy was out there. Bolting out the garden exits are by far the most common way thieves flee when they think that someone is on their ass. About that “security camera scan aisle seven shit”…a lot of times that is not for real. Every so often they do that to do deter potential thieves into thinking that they’re being watched. If they are going to call on you, they’ll probably do it by phone or radio to LP so that you won’t know that they are gunning for you. Swim should wait a couple of weeks before hitting the same joint, more time than that if he thinks that he’s been spotted. And be careful…where I am from over 100 dollars worth of shit is a felony.

loner4life
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posted 07-03-2005 01:31

thanks for replying, I thought everyone stopped reading this topic when it got a few pages long, good thing its still interesting to everyone. Is it risky for swim to do anything at stores during like this holiday weekend or any special time of year? if swim hasn't been seen and does know that nobody is outside the door will the emergency exit door open right away at wally world when swim pushes the bar to get out or does it have a delay like thing like best buy does? my advice to anyone who likes to "hit the bullseye" that store, dont try the upc trick there or any price changing cuz they are watching for that trick lately, swim knows someone who knows exphile
Regular posted 07-04-2005 18:54

The biggest thing I have ever shoplifted was a GameCube from Target. i started shoplifting last year and during that time I stole over $1000 of dvds alone, tons of cds, video games, and electronics. I stopped for about 9 monthes and now have picked it up again, but i only do it occasionally. The easiest are of course WalMart and Kmart. WalMart is where most of my stuff came from. Target was easy at first but then they caught on to us (me and my friends) and hired some undercover workers (which are so easy to spot out). So now we are red flagged in the store and get followed every time, ragardless of if we are even stealing. FYE was real easy at first as well until we pulled off a relatively big job that royally pissed FYE off and then we were kept under a close watch there too. I've come close to getting caught a couple times too but i'm an uncaught shoplifter as of right now. I also barcoded a little bit during that time. I shoplift because i don't have any money of course, but it's also really fun in my mind. I mean really fun, almost like a sport. Some of the best memories I have are of shoplifting with my friends. Sometimes we just look back and reflect on our shoplifting career. It really is a fun and exciting pastime. ark_gamer
Regular posted 07-04-2005 19:32

It's fun, it's exciting, and I hate paying for things! Unfortunatly, my friends are all goody-goody and won't back me up....

Andreas
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posted 07-05-2005 06:49

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Originally posted by faithbanks: Normal looking employees can be your worst enemies because Loss Prevention is one of the coolest jobs in the store. They are eager to prove that they can take down boosters as well as the LP, so watch your ass. Don’t just chill because they are wearing blue. Someone was probably trying to bolt when that guy was out there. Bolting out the garden exits are by far the most common way thieves flee when they think that someone is on their ass. About that “security camera scan aisle seven shit”… a lot of times that is not for real. Every so often they do that to do deter potential thieves into thinking that they’re being watched. If they are going to call on you, they’ll probably do it by phone or radio to LP so that you won’t know that they are gunning for you. Swim should wait a couple of weeks before hitting the same joint, more time than that if he thinks that he’s been spotted. And be careful…where I am from over 100 dollars worth of shit is a felony.

I think you are really stupid. Everything you say is practically from that text file on the front page. Actually I'm not sure if its still on the front page, but it consists of common sense and a few honest tips from someone who knows something. Unlike you. So take your shitty posing "boosting" and eat a dick.

Cboys
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posted 07-05-2005 06:57

quote:

Originally posted by faithbanks: Normal looking employees can be your worst enemies because Loss Prevention is one of the coolest jobs in the store. They are eager to prove that they can take down boosters as well as the LP, so watch your ass. Don’t just chill because they are wearing blue. Someone was probably trying to bolt when that guy was out there. Bolting out the garden exits are by far the most common way thieves flee when they think that someone is on their ass. About that “security camera scan aisle seven shit”… a lot of times that is not for real. Every so often they do that to do deter potential thieves into thinking that they’re being watched. If they are going to call on you, they’ll probably do it by phone or radio to LP so that you won’t know that they are gunning for you. Swim should wait a couple of weeks before hitting the same joint, more time than that if he thinks that he’s been spotted. And be careful…where I am from over 100 dollars worth of shit is a felony.

quoted almost directly from article. Eat shit and die. carbo
Regular posted 07-05-2005 20:33

Ok I go into Wal Mart about twice a week, and come out with 2 CD's every time. Here's how I do it. When I walk in, I head straight for the section with all the birthday cards. That's an area of low suspicion, so if the cameras were watching you, they'll go check somebody else. After about 30 seconds, I go into the electronics section (which happens to be next to the cards). I spend about five minutes picking up, putting down, and reading the backs of various CD's. You know, look like you're a customer browsing for the one you want. When I feel like I've done a good enough job, I take the 2 CD's that I want and walk to the videogame section. I put the CD's down on a little rack next to the PS2 and play some games. This step probably isn't necessary, I just like playing video games for free. Video games in hand, I exit the electronic section. As soon as I turn the corner, I put the CD's in my sweatshirt pocket. Now I go into the bathroom and head into the handicapped stall. I look under the stalls to see if anyone else is in the room. If someone comes in, just

make some grunting noises and pretend like you're taking a shit. Or flush the toilet to cover up any noise you're making if you can do it quickly. All you need to remove is the outer wrapper and the sticky label holding the jewel case shut. I don't even open the case normally. After all is unwrapped and the tags/wrappers are flushed down the toilet, I tuck in my shirt and put the CD's in it like a big pocket. With my sweatshirt over my shirt, no one can see a thing. All you have to do now is walk out. All of these steps may seem a little unnecessary, but I don't mind taking a little extra time to insure the safety of my procedure. And save about $30. faithbanks
Regular quote: posted 07-06-2005 17:13

Originally posted by Andreas:

Everything you say is practically from that text file on the front page.

Did I say that it wasn't? No, the internet is for research. I pull up the info and then I tweak it and then I try it. It's that goddamned simple. faithbanks
Regular quote: posted 07-06-2005 17:16

Originally posted by loner4life: thanks for replying, I thought everyone stopped reading this topic when it got a few pages long, good thing its still interesting to everyone. Is it risky for swim to do anything at stores during like this holiday weekend or any special time of year? if swim hasn't been seen and does know that nobody is outside the door will the emergency exit door open right away at wally world when swim pushes the bar to get out or does it have a delay like thing like best buy does? my advice to anyone who likes to "hit the bullseye" that store, dont try the upc trick there or any price changing cuz they are watching for that trick lately, swim knows someone who knows

I do my best steals around holiday times. I got a pair of pink New Balances and a bra out of Sears this weekend. In the Wally World’s up my area, there is a slight delay but if you are moving fast , it will take then some time to get up there and by then you’ll be gone. loner4life
Regular posted 07-07-2005 04:20

swim needs some good advice, if swim goes into wally world loads up a cart full of stuff, bolts out the emergency exit in the gardening section or any part of the store and rushes cart into a waiting truck and speeds off, how likely will swim get caught? what could go wrong if 1 truck has no plates on it and wheels etc are swapped a mile down the road after cart is unloaded and cart dumped a mile down road and swim is long gone with new plates on truck and different wheels etc on truck? stuff is well hidden in truck, what holes could be in this plan? anyone work at w mart give advice thanks ablkebrazibah
Regular posted 07-07-2005 04:40

that's a little extreme. what are you planning on lifting? Garrett
Regular posted 07-07-2005 05:08

faithbanks killed this thread. Lynk
Regular quote: posted 07-07-2005 05:31

Originally posted by carbo: Ok I go into Wal Mart about twice a week, and come out with 2 CD's every time. Here's how I do it. When I walk in, I head straight for the section with all the birthday cards. That's an area of low suspicion, so if the cameras were watching you, they'll go check somebody else. After about 30 seconds, I go into the electronics section (which happens to be next to the cards). I spend about five minutes picking up, putting down, and reading the backs of various CD's. You know, look like you're a customer browsing for the one you want. When I

feel like I've done a good enough job, I take the 2 CD's that I want and walk to the videogame section. I put the CD's down on a little rack next to the PS2 and play some games. This step probably isn't necessary, I just like playing video games for free. Video games in hand, I exit the electronic section. As soon as I turn the corner, I put the CD's in my sweatshirt pocket. Now I go into the bathroom and head into the handicapped stall. I look under the stalls to see if anyone else is in the room. If someone comes in, just make some grunting noises and pretend like you're taking a shit. Or flush the toilet to cover up any noise you're making if you can do it quickly. All you need to remove is the outer wrapper and the sticky label holding the jewel case shut. I don't even open the case normally. After all is unwrapped and the tags/wrappers are flushed down the toilet, I tuck in my shirt and put the CD's in it like a big pocket. With my sweatshirt over my shirt, no one can see a thing. All you have to do now is walk out. All of these steps may seem a little unnecessary, but I don't mind taking a little extra time to insure the safety of my procedure. And save about $30.

Theres one problem with that. Some stores have those fucking detecters in front of the bathroom doors. When I was about 7, in EVERY store I was able to take stupid ass cards, packs, candy, and some little fucking toys. Now I have to look up, looks a little suspicious, try to find a issle where theres no bubble, take the shit from one location to there, open it, shove it while watching out for old bitches and snitches. Leave the store. Before it used to be grab it, go piss, tear it up, flush the wrapper, and leave. Fucking bastards no matter how hard you try I'll still get you. Even if I have to short circuit all the power in the store, I'll get you. Orranis
Regular posted 07-07-2005 07:17

Hey, here's some advice for all of you sneaky people. Don't steal from Home Depot. Not only have I myself noted how ass tight the security is there, but while I was in court today, EVERY SINGLE shoplifting case brought before the judge was from Home Depot. So, don't steal from there. Saw 3 people get pending jail sentences.

faithbanks
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posted 07-07-2005 17:59

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Originally posted by loner4life: swim needs some good advice, if swim goes into wally world loads up a cart full of stuff, bolts out the emergency exit in the gardening section or any part of the store and rushes cart into a waiting truck and speeds off, how likely will swim get caught? what could go wrong if 1 truck has no plates on it and wheels etc are swapped a mile down the road after cart is unloaded and cart dumped a mile down road and swim is long gone with new plates on truck and different wheels etc on truck? stuff is well hidden in truck, what holes could be in this plan? anyone work at w mart give advice thanks

Damn! Is swim trying to steal the whole store?!? Anyway, if you do it like this, you probably will get away with it because nothing at WalMart is worth all that effort and they are not going to high speed chase you over some shitty watchesm velcro bo-bos and a Kill Bill DVD. Ooh, that reminds me. A friend of mine did do that at Wal-Mart with a whole load of electronics. I doubt they were chasing him, but he was so freaked out that he took a back road and spent the night in hotel. I think he was a little paranoid, but better safe than sorry. Happy Thievery!

faithbanks
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posted 07-07-2005 18:05

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Originally posted by Lynk: Theres one problem with that. Some stores have those fucking detecters in front of the bathroom doors. When I was about 7, in EVERY store I was able to take stupid ass cards, packs, candy, and some little fucking toys. Now I have to look up, looks a little suspicious, try to find a issle where theres no bubble, take the shit from one location to there, open it, shove it while watching out for old

bitches and snitches. Leave the store. Before it used to be grab it, go piss, tear it up, flush the wrapper, and leave. Fucking bastards no matter how hard you try I'll still get you. Even if I have to short circuit all the power in the store, I'll get you.

Detectors in front of the bathroom...onward to the dressing room! [This message has been edited by faithbanks (edited 07-07-2005).] loner4life
Regular posted 07-07-2005 20:20

Yes swim wants to load up cart with the most expensive electronics only, bolt and load and take off. If swim bolts and security or employees running after him when running out the door chase and swim takes out pepper spray and sprays people will swim get in huge trouble for using a weapon? while swim loads up cart in store will anyone get very suspicious with average dressed swim walking around loading up tons of electronics in a cart at wally world? any suggestions or tips to help out swim is appreciated thanks faithbanks
Regular quote: posted 07-07-2005 20:58

Originally posted by loner4life: Yes swim wants to load up cart with the most expensive electronics only, bolt and load and take off. If swim bolts and security or employees running after him when running out the door chase and swim takes out pepper spray and sprays people will swim get in huge trouble for using a weapon? while swim loads up cart in store will anyone get very suspicious with average dressed swim walking around loading up tons of electronics in a cart at wally world? any suggestions or tips to help out swim is appreciated thanks

If the people who are chasing him are plain clothed, swim could always argue that he thought he was being attacked by strangers and that he

always carries pepper spray to protect himself. And yes, people will think swim is odd for rolling around the store with a whole cartload of electronics because no one *buys* all that kind of stuff at once. But to get people off of his ass, Swim should go in there dressed like some bougie bastard so they will think that he has too much money to be stealing and they might think that with all the money that he *has* maybe, just maybe he is going to pay for it. Swim also must be going fast because soon they are going to catch on. And he might want to put some other things in his cart as well like toothpaste or boxers to further add to the illusion that this is just a regular shopping trip, not a pushout of electronic proportions.

PossesedSmurf
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posted 07-07-2005 21:35

I didnt read the second page, but some1 asked if anyones ever stolen close, well what if you took too of those bathing suits, tryed to put one inside the other, and when you went into the chnageroom to try it on, u put on the hidden one under ur pants and left with the one bathing suit, since they only saw u go in with one, then you're safe, right??? simon232
Regular quote: posted 07-07-2005 22:13

Originally posted by chainy: I was building a potatoe cannon and I needed one of those but when I went to Home Depot it was 12 fucking dollars. I was extremely tempted to shoplift it, but since I stopped a few months prior I decided to just buy it. That's really the only time I've been tempted to shoplift since I stopped.

i stole one it was easy dont be a bitch!

faithbanks
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posted 07-09-2005 18:22

quote:

Originally posted by PossesedSmurf: I didnt read the second page, but some1 asked if anyones ever stolen close, well what if you took too of those bathing suits, tryed to put one inside the other, and when you went into the chnageroom to try it on, u put on the hidden one under ur pants and left with the one bathing suit, since they only saw u go in with one, then you're safe, right???

This could work if the door bitch was not paying attention. It may work better if you put the bathing suit that you want to steal inside a large item of clothes like a granny house dress and take it into the dressing room and stuff the bathing suit in your purse, drop the granny dress back on the shelf and haul ass!

SkiPpYP
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posted 07-10-2005 01:47

Just make friends with some of the employees. I used to work at Wally World (terminated for theft; they think I just took a few drinks without paying ) and most of the people who steal from there are actually employees. They get paid poorly and treated like shit, so they don't feel too bad about. Plus I know I would've appreciated an accomplice, though I did just fine by myself. Lynk
Regular posted 07-10-2005 02:23

This is starting to piss me off. People don't think your suspicious for carrying shit around in your buggy. Put yourself in the position of, lets say a worker there. You see someone with a good bit of expensive clothes, some good hardware, and perhaps a TV. Would you think thats susspicious? Hell no, the workers don't give a rats ass whats in your buggy or what your holding. They'll probably be glad since they think your going to buy it. If people were to think is 'suspicious' they wouldn't tell anyone anyway cause you won't see some parinoid bastard by a store security dude saying "You see that person he has 3 games 2 computer programs, 3 ps2, Gnc and xbox mem cards. along with 2 bags of chips, cat litter, some chocolate bars and some clothes. Tell me, when was the last

time you had that happen to you or someone you know. Never. They don't do or say shit unless its a paranoid AP bitch or your mother (could be the same person). Just do what your doin, get the shit, and get it done. Fuck everyonbe else around and don't be there too long to let people see what your doing. If they see you opening something then they might, if there mellow or a friend they won't care. ark_gamer
Regular posted 07-10-2005 05:08

Good point. The employees, for the most part, don't give a rats ass what you're doing. As a matter of fact, some don't even care if they do see you shoplifting. I know I wouldn't. 10 elevenths
Regular posted 07-10-2005 23:45

On the subject of magic bags; Has anyone tested one in the field? Ive seen all manner of instructions for them, and the theory behind them is very sound. But I would like to hear someone who actually used such a device when shoplifting, and any advice they may have about constructing or using one. If you dont know what I'm talking about, look up "magic bag" or "magic bagg" on google. Lynk
Regular quote: posted 07-11-2005 00:46

Originally posted by 10 elevenths: On the subject of magic bags; Has anyone tested one in the field? Ive seen all manner of instructions for them, and the theory behind them is very sound. But I would like to hear someone who actually used such a device when shoplifting, and any advice they may have about constructing or using one. If you dont know what I'm talking about, look up "magic bag" or "magic bagg" on google.

Yes. I have. I used the 'buddies pick' up or 'round trip' or whatever the fuck I called it (Its when you put the item or thing in or under someones vehicle and let them ride threw the sensors.) And I layered it twice with the aluminam foil and it still went off. I had to leave the scene of walmart threw the little special 'buggy/cart' door to avoid anyone who saw me place it in her cart. faithbanks
Regular quote: posted 07-11-2005 17:09

Originally posted by ark_gamer: Good point. The employees, for the most part, don't give a rats ass what you're doing. As a matter of fact, some don't even care if they do see you shoplifting. I know I wouldn't.

About the employees.... It depends on the store. At some stores, they are nosy bitches and at some stores, they could give a shit. faithbanks
Regular quote: posted 07-11-2005 17:10

Originally posted by Lynk: Yes. I have. I used the 'buddies pick' up or 'round trip' or whatever the fuck I called it (Its when you put the item or thing in or under someones vehicle and let them ride threw the sensors.) And I layered it twice with the aluminam foil and it still went off. I had to leave the scene of walmart threw the little special 'buggy/cart' door to avoid anyone who saw me place it in her cart.

The round trip scam is one of my favorites. I remember pushing out a blender like that before.

kcuf
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posted 07-12-2005 05:45

so heres my idea going with the magic bag method i was thinking to test it not only do the cellphone test but try this (tell me if its good idea or bad one and if so flem all u want me and my girl friend read alot of manga and i was thinking we go to the mall and we both buy a manga from sun coast shee puts hers in the bag provided mine in my "book bag" then we go to walden books evry time you take a manga bought from sun coast there it sets off the sensors ( they usaly just scan it theroug to deactavate it) i wold let her go in first and if it gos off im free to see if mine gose off asswell bumpkins505
Regular posted 07-12-2005 06:02

^ not gonna work seethru
Regular quote: posted 07-12-2005 08:06

Originally posted by Chris1875: The biggest thing ive ever shoplifted is Chewing Gum, how about you guys?

I walked out of a major chain department/grocery store with a 27" t.v. then i drove around back to the garden center and told the store employee i had just purchased a lawnmower and asked him if he would help load it up,which he was happy to do .Fom the same store,in less than two weeks i made it out with more than ten digital cameras,binoculars with digital cam inside,more than half a dozen cordless screwguns,two bikes,and numerous other items worth more than 4500.00. Over the last 7 years i've lived here, I'm guessing more than $15000.00 worth of their product has left their store with me.I haven't been caught yet,but I have very good cover.I shop there all the time with my handicapped mother.I look like a good son taking his wheelchair bound old crippled mother out for her groceries and what not. Oh and did I mention I'm also a single parent of a 7 yr old daughter that is with me in the store.That alone is worth its weight in gold.As A very responsible man taking care of his mom and his daughter, these corporate owned stores with small town employees are just way too trusting.By the way ,my mom and my daughter have never seen me take anything that i didn't pay for.I feel like this is going to last for quite a long time.

bumpkins505
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posted 07-12-2005 09:07

u should soo tell me how to steal a digital camera faithbanks
Regular quote: posted 07-12-2005 18:02

Originally posted by kcuf: so heres my idea going with the magic bag method i was thinking to test it not only do the cellphone test but try this (tell me if its good idea or bad one and if so flem all u want me and my girl friend read alot of manga and i was thinking we go to the mall and we both buy a manga from sun coast shee puts hers in the bag provided mine in my "book bag" then we go to walden books evry time you take a manga bought from sun coast there it sets off the sensors ( they usaly just scan it theroug to deactavate it) i wold let her go in first and if it gos off im free to see if mine gose off asswell

The Magic Bag trick is so over. It does not work and probably never did.

10 elevenths
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posted 07-13-2005 00:20

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Originally posted by faithbanks: The Magic Bag trick is so over. It does not work and probably never did.

I am convinced that it does work, since radio waves cannot penetrate a properly made faraday cage, its as simple as that. It has to work, its just how exactly does one construct it to make it work, and what strategies does one use with it etc.

adam214
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posted 07-13-2005 06:49

I use to steal heaps of shit and i would probably one of the first "serial shoplifters"in my town.Oh yes they were the good days.no beepy thingys minimal security people,if they did call the pigs it would take them half an hour to finish there donuts and get down to the store.I got pretty good at it me and my friend hit up five stores in about 10 minutes and stole about $100 dollars worth of shit.I nicked a $40 dollar wallet which i have to this day.But i got nearly busted a couple of times this over-zealous worker cornered me with his girlfriend. nearly got me lucky i did a runner,went to another supermarket in town this fat bastard throwed me out.But didnt get my stuff i stole. Once i had this dumbass stand there in the aisle kept on talking to his arm (probably a radio)all i did was pull a swifty and go to the next aisle.After all this i got followed in ever supermarket in town.After that i stopped doing it and i havent done it for about 18 months.But now there all hot on it every store has those anti-theft things and they have got the pigs on the act, in the name of reducing "juvenile crime".So now if you get caught they will be there in 5 minutes.So if someone about to shoot you:30 minute call out time,but if a kid steals a mars bar:5 minutes call out and a trip to juvenile court.shitty isnt it yours truly adam bumpkins505
Regular posted 07-13-2005 10:08

^^^^ *bows down* u r my idol

krazy_latino
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posted 07-16-2005 07:51

I want to know about the magic bagg thing too, its everywhere but noone actually tried itor wants to admit it. It probably only works with a certain kind of security tag.

foulmatter2
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posted 07-16-2005 08:30

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Originally posted by lazyrocker1: ^ Aren't you the guy that calls stealing "boosting?"

This is also the person that claimed you can OD from Aleve on her first post... Yes we all know it has the potential to cause someone to OD. However, if you're suggesting it has recreational value - well then... Go take a bunch of Aleve and die. VladimirIllyichLenin
Regular posted 07-16-2005 09:13

For the grocery store idea, I was thinking maybe bringing a coat and putting it in your cart. When you go to the shit-aisle where there are usually no cameras, just wrap the expensive stuff in your clothes and buy some worthless crap like tinfoil. faithbanks
Regular quote: posted 07-16-2005 19:45

Originally posted by foulmatter2: This is also the person that claimed you can OD from Aleve on her first post... Yes we all know it has the potential to cause someone to OD. However, if you're suggesting it has recreational value - well then... Go take a bunch of Aleve and die.

It was a joke.... Anyhow, you can od on anything. I had an hallucinatory experience the other day on cough syrup. It was fun. [This message has been edited by faithbanks (edited 07-16-2005).]

maskofsanity
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posted 07-16-2005 20:33

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Originally posted by 0x29A: shoplifting is an art

You don't have the slightest grasp of what art is.

OCC-402
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posted 07-16-2005 23:46

how do you detach Sensormatic SuperTags? ridiculous432
Regular posted 07-17-2005 01:41

there was a thread detailing methods for stealing from target, maybe by a fromer target employee i beleive, does anyone have the link? faithbanks
Regular quote: posted 07-18-2005 20:01

Originally posted by OCC-402: how do you detach Sensormatic SuperTags?

Well, I don't know about all of that. I don't know the technical names for these tags, but I do know if you hit a mall store on a slack day (Wednesday at 2 pm), you can steal a tag remover from a vacant register. I did that and I still have it in my bedroom for future conquests.

faithbanks
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posted 07-18-2005 20:03

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Originally posted by ridiculous432: there was a thread detailing methods for stealing from target, maybe by a fromer target employee i beleive, does anyone have the link?

It was on the "This just in" Section of TOTSE. It was entitled "Hitting the Bullseye..Stealing SuperTarget". Howver, I can't find it now, I think they may have moved it to bad ideas. undergoing_treatment posted 07-19-2005 18:15
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Originally posted by Chris1875: The biggest thing ive ever shoplifted is Chewing Gum, how about you guys?

those 2 way radios (120) KarEEmDaNIggA
Regular quote: posted 07-20-2005 15:15

Originally posted by faithbanks: It was a joke.... Anyhow, you can od on anything. I had an hallucinatory experience the other day on cough syrup. It was fun.

Wow... Faithbanks how old are you? 10? 40?

faithbanks
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posted 07-20-2005 20:08

quote:

Originally posted by KarEEmDaNIggA: Wow... Faithbanks how old are you? 10? 40?

Somewhere between 1 and 100 ryan_p_20
Regular posted 07-20-2005 22:22

Kmart must be the easiest place EVER to lift from. I will share some of my exploits. Speakers: I took some computer speakers from the electronics section. Originally I was going to see if i could fit them in my cargo pockets. Unfortunately, they were about one square inch to big. I had taken them out of the box in the pillow section so I had another idea. I cut open one pillow and stuffed the speakers inside. I then threw away the box. The product was two pillows in a bag, so the cut was covered. I bought the pillows, went to my car and stashed the speakers. Then I went back in, said that the pillows I bought had a tear and asked for my money back. Now I have computer speakers for my computer!!! DVD boxed sets: I got a boxed set of dvds, went to my favorite place (pillow section) cut off the security tag, and slid down my waist band. Unfortunately as I was walking out of the gardening section, the alarm went off (later, I found no other security tag, interesting). A guy ran out and told me to walk back through the store. As I was outside when he said this, when he turned around to go back in, I threw the dvds behind a vending machine and walked back through. Got away scott free!!!

KarEEmDaNIggA posted 07-21-2005 01:01
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Originally posted by faithbanks: Somewhere between 1 and 100

The reason I asked is you can't be to old/mature if you are OD'ing on cough syrup. faithbanks
Regular quote: posted 07-21-2005 17:03

Originally posted by KarEEmDaNIggA: The reason I asked is you can't be to old/mature if you are OD'ing on cough syrup.

People of all ages use drugs. Anyhow the cough syrup incident was a mistake. I could have sworn it said 2 tablespoons every four hours, but I must have been out of my head because it was 1 teaspoon every twelve hours when I read it the second time. I was having mad dreams man! It was scary but it was kind of cool. Maybe something in my system didn't agree with it...I don't know. But it was funny after the danger had passed.
Author Regular Topic: A 'how to' on Getting into Amusement Parks for free

KarEEmDaNIggA posted 07-21-2005 05:30

This is a guide on some ways to get into an amusement park... What? This scam will allow you to obtain free admission tickets to nearly all theme parks for yourself, and often for your friends/family at the same time by taking advantage of a media admissions policy many theme parks have. A vast majority of theme parks offer complementary passes to members of the media, whether they be journalists, reporters, photographers, freelance writers, etc. the underlying theory being that the price of a few complementary passes is worth the amount of ‘new business’ the publicity

will bring. Thus, this scam revolves around one posing to be a member of the media, which as we shall see, is not nearly as difficult as it may seem. How? While most theme parks have similarities in their media admissions policy, it is nonetheless worthwhile to select a theme park you would like to visit and research its individual policy. To locate the policy, first of all check the theme park’s website, as many parks place their policies online, with the specific requirements. Often the policies are bundled with regular press releases that the theme park puts out. If you are unable to locate the policy online, call or email the desired theme park and ask to speak to a public relations representative. Once information regarding media admissions has been obtained, the next step is to comply with all of the requirements. Generally, the policy will call for the following specifications: *You must be a currently employed media representative *You must fax your typed request on paper with the company logo x days prior to your visit *You must specify the exact date of your visit and the number of guests in your party *You must specify a phone number and/or email address, with a pertinent domain name *Upon picking up your complimentary passes, you must present a media credential complete with photo ID. Thus, your first task is to invent a name for your fictitious magazine and to design a simple, yet elegant letterhead. For samples of professional letterheads, simply conduct a Google image search, Step two, once a nice letterhead has been designed, is to write the actual letter. The letter should be concise and to the point (no longer than one page), and should be written in a professional business letter format, using the block, modified block, or semi-block styles. Research these formats using Google; sample layouts of letters may be found here: [URL=http: //www. cybe rbee.com/s cience/bus let.gif]ht tp://www.c yberbee.co m/science/ buslet.gif[/URL] or here: [URL=http: //englishp lus.com/gr ammar/0000 0150.htm]h ttp://engl ishplus.co m/grammar/ 00000150.htm[/URL] When writing the letter mention the magazine you write for (or that you founded), as well as giving a brief background of the magazine and the kinds of articles that appear in it. Specify the number of people that will be attending the park (keeping in mind the maximum amount of complementary tickets offered by the park), the date you will be visiting, and radiate an apparent enthusiasm about the park throughout the entire letter. Needless to say, your letter must be completely free of any grammatical errors (you are, after all, a writer ). You will also need to provide a phone number, which will be used to call you once your request has been processed to confirm your status as well as your visitation date. If you do not wish to give out your phone number, you may say that the phone is currently unavailable due to renovation, in which case you will need to provide an email address with a valid domain name, such as nameofyourmagazine.com. If you wish to register a domain name and do not wish to take the time to construct a website, simply add an explanatory note such as ‘Welcome to …, our new

website will be up soon.’ The address you supply may be entirely fictitious or one of an office space for lease. When faxing the letter simply use a publicly available fax service, such as that offered by Kinko’s (or simply email the letter if you chose that route). For added assurance, you may want to offer to send the theme park a complimentary copy of your magazine’s ‘next month’s issue.’ Once the letter has been sent, await confirmation by email or telephone. If confirmation has not been received within several days, contact the public relations representative. After confirmation, simply show up at the appropriate reception area (usually the guest relations booth) of the theme park on the designated date to receive your tickets. However, you will be required to show two pieces of identification: photo ID, which may be a driver’s license, a college ID, or a specific ID for the magazine you designed (Kinko’s offers basic lamination service as well). A second piece of ID must be a ‘media credential’ which may simply be a business card. Acquire some business card paper (sold at general supply/stationary stores) and print a business card with your name, position, magazine address, email, and logo. Once you show your two pieces of ID, you should receive your complimentary tickets. Enjoy your day! There are of course numerous other ways you may attempt to gain admittance, ranging from picking ticket stubs out of nearby trash receptacles or duplicating your own look-alike tickets, to entering through the delivery entrance or hopping an unattended fence at an isolated location… Obvious special Thanks Dizzie. -Kareem

[This message has been edited by KarEEmDaNIggA (edited 07-21-2005).] Brimstone
Regular posted 07-21-2005 06:14

Or just sneak in. That's what I do. &Beta&rho&iota&mu&Sigma&tau&omega&nu&eta [This message has been edited by Brimstone (edited 07-21-2005).]

Brimstone
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posted 07-21-2005 06:18

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Brimstone: [B]Or just sneak in. That's what I do. Anirak
Regular quote: posted 07-21-2005 06:23

Originally posted by Brimstone: Or just sneak in. That's what I do.

Why did you just quote a post you JUST made, then post the same exact thing? echoman64
Regular posted 07-21-2005 09:19

never thought about that. Thats a hell of an idea. you should put this on a web page or something. This Name Taken
Regular posted 07-21-2005 09:58

I just tell them i'm here to pick some one up. Garrett
Regular posted 07-21-2005 11:51

Its a hell of a lot of effort to save 20 bucks though.

Tokolosh
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posted 07-21-2005 12:54

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Originally posted by echoman64: never thought about that. Thats a hell of an idea. you should put this on a web page or something.

http://dizzy.ws/admittancescam.htm www.dizzy.ws DIzzIeE <3 KarEEmDaNIggA posted 07-21-2005 15:08
Regular quote:

Originally posted by Tokolosh: [QUOTE]Originally posted by echoman64: [b]never thought about that. Thats a hell of an idea. you should put this on a web page or something.

http://dizzy.ws/admittancescam.htm www.dizzy.ws DIzzIeE <3[/B][/QUOTE] Dizzie is sick.

Certified Dead
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posted 07-21-2005 22:12

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Originally posted by Garrett: Its a hell of a lot of effort to save 20 bucks though.

Yeh...it would probably cost more than that to set up the whole thing, therefore pointless. And if you get found out you would be screwed.

KarEEmDaNIggA posted 07-21-2005 23:11
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Uh what costs $20 in this? Certified Dead
Regular posted 07-22-2005 00:13

The expense of doing all that shit just to fake being a journalist. It would cost. dDIzzIEe
Regular posted 07-29-2005 21:03

First of all, popular amusement ticket prices circle around $50: Disney World: $63.63 ( http://www.wdwinfo.com/wdwinfo/tickets.htm ) Universal Studios: $47.00 ( http://themeparks.universalstudios.com/hollywood/website/tickets. html ), Cedar Point: $44.95 ( http://www.cedarpoint.com/public/trips/tickets/ prices_cedar.cfm ), and so forth. Secondly, media admissions policies of various parks allow the media representative to bring along family members or friends, for instance from SeaWorld's media admission policy: "Maximum four complimentary tickets per one-time visit per three-month period (March through May, June through August, and September through November) to qualifying personnel. A maximum of four additional members of your party may receive a 50 percent discount on regular admission prices." ( http:/ /www.seawo rld.com/se aworld/tx/ ftp_press_ releases_a rticles.as px?pr_num=719 ) Finally, the cost of fabricating a media ID is a one-time cost that is itself less than $20 (for instance: http://www.artstuff.net/self_laminating_i_d_cards. htm , http://www .samsclub. com/eclub/ main_shopp ing.jsp?mt =a&n=0&coe =0&oidPath =0%3A-2354 1%3A-42532%3A-43184%3A43191%3A-43193%3A893486 , although the local printing shop like Kinko's

should be able to laminate for a better price), whereas the ID can be used over and over to obtain access to other parks. So as you can see, the costs of admission (not to mention repeated admission) outweigh the costs of 'posing as a journalist.' Or, put simply: money is saved, not lost.
Author Topic: Dumpster Diving

Emperor
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posted 07-21-2005 04:06

I figure I can find some good stuff to sell on ebay... any tips? I've never done it before. Thanks in advance.. joshwindeel
Regular posted 07-21-2005 04:17

Dumpster diving is freaking sweet, I do it pretty regularly and I've managed to find some good stuff. Recently, I made 50$ or so off some RAM I found in a tossed computer. THe best palces to look are strip malls and upper-class apartments. Those rich folks throw loads of perfectly good stuff out. The best finds I've had in strip malls have been at a Staples and at a Hostess Outlet. Staples throws out broken/unsellable merchandise quite often, and most of it in salvagable somehow. I've gotten blank DVDS, binders, and loads of computer paper there. The best thing about diving is that its quite legal, unless you break a fence down to get there or something. I find the best time to go is around 9-10 oclock, right when stores are closing. Then the trash for the day has been tossed, and loads of good stuff is ripe for the picking. Wear good leather gloves and jeans, preferably with a long-sleeve tshirt. Having a bud there to help you climb out of the dumpster helps, plus he can drive the car for you. Also, wear a headlamp if possible. Those help keep your hands free and illuminate the dumpster. Vermin really aren't a problem, and people will act like you don't even exist if they do see you. I guess its embarassing to dumpster dive or something. I've had people walk up and throw things in while I'm in there, and they won't even look at me. It's quite fun, really. Godspeed and good hunting to you.

Emperor
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posted 07-21-2005 04:47

quote:

Originally posted by joshwindeel: Dumpster diving is freaking sweet, I do it pretty regularly and I've managed to find some good stuff. Recently, I made 50$ or so off some RAM I found in a tossed computer. THe best palces to look are strip malls and upper-class apartments. Those rich folks throw loads of perfectly good stuff out. The best finds I've had in strip malls have been at a Staples and at a Hostess Outlet. Staples throws out broken/unsellable merchandise quite often, and most of it in salvagable somehow. I've gotten blank DVDS, binders, and loads of computer paper there. The best thing about diving is that its quite legal, unless you break a fence down to get there or something. I find the best time to go is around 9-10 oclock, right when stores are closing. Then the trash for the day has been tossed, and loads of good stuff is ripe for the picking. Wear good leather gloves and jeans, preferably with a long-sleeve t-shirt. Having a bud there to help you climb out of the dumpster helps, plus he can drive the car for you. Also, wear a headlamp if possible. Those help keep your hands free and illuminate the dumpster. Vermin really aren't a problem, and people will act like you don't even exist if they do see you. I guess its embarassing to dumpster dive or something. I've had people walk up and throw things in while I'm in there, and they won't even look at me. It's quite fun, really. Godspeed and good hunting to you.

Wow Hands down the best reply I've ever recieved in bad ideas +500 cool points to you

joshwindeel
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posted 07-21-2005 05:41

Your +500 can buy you some more tips, especially because I forgot to put them on: Colleges are amazing, especially right at the end of a semester. College kids throw out loads of stuff. I got a perfectly good couch from a dumpster, I jsut made sure to wash it afterwards. I also saw 2 other couches, a broken futon, a working beer clock, a working vacuum cleaner, and a box full of pool cues with slight scratches on them. Thrift stores and consignment shops can also be good because they sometimes toss stuff they think won't sell. Often, its laundry baskets or little trinkets, but you never know. Also, most big box stores (ie, W*Mart, Target, Bestbuy, etc) use compactors, rendering any trash they have useless. I wouldn't try to get in a compactor, if the thing turns on with you in it, you're SOL. Food: food in a dumpster is typically fine, as long as its sealed in a can or bag. I would wash it off before eating it, though. As long as the container isnt bulging, the food sohuld be good to eat. That's where the Hostess Outlet is handy, I've seen at least 20 loaves of bread and bags of tortillas in there. I didn't take them, the bags were bulging, but you get the point. Typically, most restaurants aren't worth going to. All they toss is grease containers, and those are nasty as shit. But there are exceptions, McD's is supposed to toss burgers every now and then, but I've never seen it done. Weather: As long as it hasn't rained in the past 2-3 days, you're good to go. The rain makes diving really shitty, everything is wet and nasty. Book stores often throw out magazines minus the cover when the next issue comes out, those are good to read if you don't feel like buying/ stealing them when they first come out. Places like Blockbuster/Hollywood Video are good because they often toss movie posters/promo stuff, and that usually sells good on eBay, movie freaks love that sort of thing. That's about it, for now, so good luck again. Andreas
Regular posted 07-21-2005 07:14

Dude I'd be so scared to get into a compactor... Have you ever seen "The Mangler"?

joshwindeel
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posted 07-21-2005 07:32

The better question is, have you seen "The Mangler 2"? http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0260162/ Emperor
Regular quote: posted 07-21-2005 07:46

Originally posted by joshwindeel: The better question is, have you seen "The Mangler 2"? http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0260162/

Fuck that.. the original ninja turtles movie... when shredder got put in the trash truck.. holy shit! woodchuck_love
Regular posted 07-21-2005 08:17

yeah, dumpster diving is the shit. i made my living off it for a month. then i got bored and tried something else. i've found a mailing machine, new coffee table, bench, leather coat, dishes, wooden frame for art project, and a microfilm reader. also got 4 brand new candleholders, which i returned to the store for $40 credit. stores contantly throw out entire boxes of shit if one end of it gets smashed. avoid the broken glass, but get the stuff that's not broken and use it or sell it. and these are just from stores. i don't do residential because people will call the cops on you. plus if you get caught at stores you can always say you were looking for empty boxes. go between 1AM and 5AM if possible. learn when they pick up the garbage and do it before then. try bagel shops, home decorating stores, electronic stores, etc.

Tokolosh
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posted 07-21-2005 13:34

http://dizzy.ws/dive.htm h0ppinlowrider
Regular posted 07-21-2005 20:20

www.dumpsterworld.com Its a forum about dumpster diving AdrenalineJunkie420 posted 07-21-2005 21:20
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My friend used to work at wendys, and he said after like 13 minutes or some time limit they had to throw out the food, becuase it was too "old". He said they throw out bags full of perfectly good burgers. Gen. Patton
Regular posted 07-22-2005 00:36

Check the food before you eat it. ALWAYS. The punk kids they have working all the various jobs in food service industry [fast food/grocery stores spef] may spit/lugie in a portion of the food for the hobos. This is partly because of the mess the hobos leave behind after they take shit. So clean up after yourselfs. And check the fucking food, you wierd hippie bastards. Amateur_pharmacist posted 07-22-2005 06:10
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I was out last night. The best place I’ve found is a computer store that’s a small time operation that builds and sells computers/parts. I got two pairs of amplified speakers, a bunch of cables (some had adapters), some CDs containing useful info/programs, an office car that was quite nice, and off all things a really nice cooler. The cooler had some old food in it but I just dumped that and washed it out when I got home. I find that high traffic stores throw away more but major corporations compact it or send it back. Also I’ve found good selves and racks at some places. Also (again) someone posted about colleges… I haven’t personally done that but I hit up a local high school when it was moving. I got some gas welding supplies, a vacuum pump, a couple Geiger counters and even some radium and cobalt that were in the same box… Happy Diving!

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Topic:

Ebay scam - Pics

squeegee
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posted 06-11-2005 05:56

This is my auction for the picture that I will be putting up for sale. I want to know if you guys think there is anything wrong or if there are some tips for me. Also, should I put a buy it now option or should I just set it as is? www.geocities.com/jp_hewett try that one the general idea here is to give them a bunch of shit they already know or dont want to read, so they skip over the part about it being a digital picture. [This message has been edited by squeegee (edited 06-11-2005).] shopliftTHIS
Regular posted 06-11-2005 06:38

Page not found..dipshit ICantThinkOfAnythingNow posted 06-11-2005 06:50
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Ehem, Fix it. asma123
Regular posted 06-11-2005 07:38

your piece of shit scam doesnt work noob squeegee
Regular posted 06-11-2005 08:08

ok...gimme a min squeegee
Regular posted 06-11-2005 08:18

here, i just posted it on geocities so i wouldnt have no more problems. www.geocities.com/jp_hewett sorry...the old link works for me

aj3001
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posted 06-11-2005 09:06

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Originally posted by squeegee: so they skip over the part about it being a digital picture.

I skipped over that part *goes back to look* EDIT: I now understand that it may not have been put in yet, unless its very well hidden /EDIT [This message has been edited by aj3001 (edited 06-11-2005).] squeegee
Regular quote: posted 06-11-2005 09:14

Originally posted by aj3001: I skipped over that part *goes back to look* EDIT: I now understand that it may not have been put in yet, unless its very well hidden / EDIT

under the features it is the second bullit from the bottom

echoman64
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posted 06-11-2005 09:21

i would of fell for it. LMAO. i seen somewere on the net that a person put false stuff on ebay and his friends bought them and made good feed back. you should try someting like this. you sould get more bids this way. the higher the feedback the more trust you get.

KarEEmDaNIggA
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posted 06-11-2005 15:34

You put it under features, therefore you will be caught. It has to go under information. xRadical_Wankerx
Regular quote: posted 06-11-2005 20:13

Originally posted by KarEEmDaNIggA: You put it under features, therefore you will be caught. It has to go under information.

i was going to say that. aj3001
Regular quote: posted 06-11-2005 20:59

Originally posted by squeegee: under the features it is the second bullit from the bottom

I congratulate you squeegee
Regular posted 06-12-2005 01:10

Thanks, ill put it under information and add a couple of bullits to it.

z.neocide
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posted 06-12-2005 01:57

[QUOTE}: The Xbox has 80 Gigaflops of computing power. That's equivalent to the power found in a Cray C94 supercomputer. [/QUOTE] The word gigaflops made me laugh. Merse
Regular posted 06-12-2005 04:35

Wow, I must congratulate you, this must be one of the best eBay scams i have ever seen. Good thing I'm not looking for an Xbox lol. squeegee
Regular quote: posted 06-12-2005 05:19

Originally posted by Merse: Wow, I must congratulate you, this must be one of the best eBay scams i have ever seen. Good thing I'm not looking for an Xbox lol.

Thank you! I will be putting it up probably monday or tuesday. I dont have a debit/credit card so i will create a seller's account using my brothers card Ill probably give him a cut...like $50 out of every pic sold, he has been there to help me through a lot of rough times. I'm also planning on researching the specs and everything for the xbox360, which is due sometime around christmas. maybe i can make a good amount just scamming

Merfy2
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posted 06-12-2005 05:53

try taking out some of the BS... it should work...

aj3001
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posted 06-12-2005 09:06

If I was you I would do a Buy it Now with like 20 or something to sell, you may want to look at putting on a reserve price on if you are doing a normal auction, who would have a XBox on there with no reserve? you have to keep it realistic. However I do recommend you answer questions very carefully, when you do it if you get any questions contact me on [email protected] (msn or email me) and I will tell you what to reply, im good at saying stuff to impress the buyer but also that would not be misleading if action was taken against you Optionryder420
Regular posted 06-12-2005 14:20

How about just not replying at all? MpTaNk
Regular posted 06-12-2005 15:10

You probibly already know this, but: 1) A picture can't have features such as the ones listed, that alone will get your account suspended after the first complaint. 2) If someone pulled this shit on me I'd devote every last resource available to hunting them down and beating them senseless with a rubber hose.. at night.. while they were sleeping... spgurley
Regular posted 06-12-2005 17:12

the way you have it now, you'll get cought Monkeychunks
Regular posted 06-12-2005 18:10

If the picture you're selling is a poloroid for example, you should take a picture of it and crop it very close to the edge of the picture so that you can show it to ebay if they catch you...which they will. If you sell it for a lower price like $20 then people will read the entire thing to find out what the catch is, so sell it for the common price. What are you going to label it as? You can't call it a xbox. [This message has been edited by Monkeychunks (edited 06-122005).]

azl
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posted 06-12-2005 18:15

I did this once with a nokia phone. Expected it to reach about 40 and it reached 170GBP I felt pretty bad I then made myself feel better by buying an expensive green laser pen which I thought was more powerful than it actually was. AionTheDemon
Regular quote: posted 06-12-2005 18:36

Originally posted by squeegee: This is my auction for the picture that I will be putting up for sale. I want to know if you guys think there is anything wrong or if there are some tips for me. Also, should I put a buy it now option or should I just set it as is? www.geocities.com/jp_hewett try that one the general idea here is to give them a bunch of shit they already know or dont want to read, so they skip over the part about it being a digital picture.

This is old and retarded. Plus, moderators over ebay are scanning offers like that to control if it's bullshit. Adding the fact that someone with an iq higher than yours can figure it's a scam just by opening the page. Lots of information ALWAYS cover a scam.

vIsUaLLY aPPealiNG
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posted 06-12-2005 20:02

lol thats pretty good. needs some work though. [CriM]
Regular posted 06-13-2005 04:16

LoL So you wanna scam ebay? Good Luck Suppose your going to use your own account? Or open up a new one with a stolen cc? It will get canceled before your auction is finshed Also what payment types are you going to accept. Ebay scams arent for n00bs blink
Regular posted 06-13-2005 06:43

How about actually creating a poster quality print of the specs, complete with lots of graphics like parts of the circuit boards and definitions of terms in side-bars? If enough work was put into it, you could easily contest most scam complaints. echoman64
Regular posted 06-13-2005 06:50

you can get more ebay scam ideas on this page http://www. flipshark.com/scams/ebayindex.html

squeegee
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posted 06-13-2005 22:25

quote:

Originally posted by [CriM]: LoL So you wanna scam ebay? Good Luck Suppose your going to use your own account? Or open up a new one with a stolen cc? It will get canceled before your auction is finshed Also what payment types are you going to accept. Ebay scams arent for n00bs

This is a scam attempt, not a stealing attempt. The idea is to word it precisely and have the reader miss the most important detail in the auction. I will use my own account because I dont ebay much anyway and I'm not going to do anything illegal. It would be false advertisement if I didnt clearly state what the auction is for. I'm going to move it for the auction, but as you can see, it IS clearly stated in the above auction. The point is to use a piece of technology that is still heavily sought after. This auction should have thousands of hits, and that's what makes a scam work. Sure, someone will see it. But the fact is that there WILL be someone that doesnt.

Experimental
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posted 06-14-2005 05:10

Wow- I congratulate you and would like to be kept up with this scam, but soon ebay will get wise to you and put up more bs rules and claim that it's illegal.... dead cell
Regular posted 06-14-2005 17:08

good idea....ive never heard of a scam such as this

Berto2112
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posted 06-14-2005 18:35

definitely move the "this is for a picture" part from features into information, it stands out a bit. triangle
Regular posted 06-14-2005 18:42

I was just curious what category you're going to post this under. If they haven't done this yet, or it'll happen in the future, they'll start making you put "pictures" into a picture category, rather than xbox category. Is it considered to be misleading to put a picture of an Xbox in the console category, or do you have to put it in the picture category and you're relying on morons to just search and miss that fact? squeegee
Regular quote: posted 06-14-2005 21:17

Originally posted by triangle: I was just curious what category you're going to post this under. If they haven't done this yet, or it'll happen in the future, they'll start making you put "pictures" into a picture category, rather than xbox category. Is it considered to be misleading to put a picture of an Xbox in the console category, or do you have to put it in the picture category and you're relying on morons to just search and miss that fact?

I dunno, i havent thought of that. Anyway, do they sell xbox cases and such online? I guess i can find out quicker than you can tell me, but I was thinking about selling x boxes...not xbox...just the case. I'd have to sit and think of how i could word that.

Limecat
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posted 06-14-2005 22:03

You ought to be able to put it in the XBox category. Whenever I search Ebay for whatever, say instruments, there's always a load of crap distantly related to the search. Good luck, keep us updated. Preston
Regular posted 06-14-2005 22:17

Make the title "NEW XBOX, PIC!" ha. Merse
Regular posted 06-14-2005 22:25

^^ I agree with that title. Lazarus
Regular posted 06-14-2005 22:32

I am assuming, as you don't have a card yourself, that you are quite young. I'm 16, and have pulled off something similar to this on ebay UK. Let your brother know that it's him that'll be getting the letters from debt collection agencies and trading standards organisations before you begin, or you're probably liable to getting your ass kicked. I would reccomend that if you have any personal details attached to your ebay account you replace them with fakes, just as a precaution. That's about as much help as I can give you without going into more detail, except for one or two more things: >> Read up on eBay's rules and regulations- as long as you are technically within your rights according to these, you can just shake your ass at people threatening to take you to court etc for refunds (may sound extreme but it happened to me - however, in that case I was within my rights and I just politely said no). >> no doubt you'll get negative feedback when people realise they paid $*** for a digital image. As people said before, you may want to artificially (or legitimately, it's not hard) build up some positive feedback before you start, otherwise people will see a big

fat "-4 feedback" as soon as they look at the item, and if anyone who saw that didn't figure it out and leave, then they deserve to be scammed in the first place (that also serves as some moral justification for doing it... not that you'll need it. you'll realise what money does to people when they start sending you messages threatening to kill you over £150... ahh good times). Hope this helps, Keed triangle
Regular posted 06-14-2005 23:15

I've sold on ebay before. Some guy bought something off of me. And I had in the auction paypal only. But the guy sent me a money order for it. At the time I was in the middle of a move. I eventually got my hands on the money order a month later. Cashed it. And I didn't send him the item. He did give me a negative feedback though. The point being, I believe, ebay has a policy on items that are under like $40. There's no coverage for them and if ebay doesn't have to cough up any money, they don't really care about investigating. Lazarus
Regular posted 06-14-2005 23:17

But in this particular case it would take an altogether different sort of idiot to think that they are buying an xbox for under $40, no? But the rule could be applied to cheaper items, fo'sho. triangle
Regular posted 06-14-2005 23:23

Yeah. Also losing $20 isn't a big deal. Where as someone paying a couple hundred for a box with an X on it lol, well you might run into someone that might take that trip to beat your ass. If you had like one account and listed 10 items that you could like $20 for each. Have'em all paypal only. You can already have it sent to your bankaccount and spent by the time they notice they never received the item. That's $200 right there. You will end up with 10 negative feedbacks. No one is going to persue any legal actions cause it's $20. And ebay sure as hell won't do shit(in a legal sense), they'll just end up banning your account.

scene9
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posted 07-04-2005 06:32

Yeah but why an Xbox? Why not a 42" Plasma TV or like a $2000 laptop or something? SmartTart
Regular quote: posted 07-04-2005 15:27

Originally posted by triangle: I was just curious what category you're going to post this under. If they haven't done this yet, or it'll happen in the future, they'll start making you put "pictures" into a picture category, rather than xbox category. Is it considered to be misleading to put a picture of an Xbox in the console category, or do you have to put it in the picture category and you're relying on morons to just search and miss that fact?

ahhh, he beat me to it. If you list it under video games-game consoles or whatever, you might not get away with it once the buyer complains about the scam. If you listed a picture under another catagory, I dont know how "innocent" you are anymore Still, if you put it under pictures, there is bound to still be someone dumb enough to buy it for $20 or $30.. SmartTart simon369
Regular posted 07-04-2005 18:15

I was just wondering is this actually legal. I know its wrong and scamming but is it legal asin you cant get prosecuted.I have thought of a way to get the money from the paypal account to you. So even if its illegal yu cat get court. firsty you can just say that somebody had taken over your ebay account and change it so money gets sent to somebody a paypal you made up e.g. [email protected]. then with the money you could bvuy some runescape shit or somthing taht can be swapped over the internet easily. then just wait like 1 month andsell it back using your paypal account to receive money and your done.

This way ou can say that you bought it from a person using western union and got bored of it so your selling it over ebay. they can never prove that i twas you. simon369
Regular posted 07-04-2005 19:58

Bump Monochrome
Regular posted 07-04-2005 20:50

Too long/didn't read chainy
Regular posted 07-04-2005 21:50

I hope you get caught and get banned from ebay. How would you feel if you bought something on ebay only to find out that it was a scam. You're probably not gonna buy anything on ebay again, which hurts all the ebay users, not just the one who got scammed. Please don't do this. Anirak
Regular quote: posted 07-04-2005 22:32

Originally posted by chainy: How would you feel if you bought something on ebay only to find out that it was a scam. You're probably not gonna buy anything on ebay again, which hurts all the ebay users, not just the one who got scammed.

I agree.

hyde wolf
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posted 07-05-2005 01:21

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Originally posted by squeegee: This is my auction for the picture that I will be putting up for sale. I want to know if you guys think there is anything wrong or if there are some tips for me. Also, should I put a buy it now option or should I just set it as is? www.geocities.com/jp_hewett try that one the general idea here is to give them a bunch of shit they already know or dont want to read, so they skip over the part about it being a digital picture.

haha anyone who is willing to spend enough money for an xbox will read the features, put it somewhere else. also put the size and resolution of the picture. its not a scam if your not lying and you're not. you are selling a high quality picture haha i love it. good luck. --me -03tell us how it goes, if ur not in prison that is. --me -03[This message has been edited by hyde wolf (edited 07-052005).] hdcwr0x2
Regular posted 07-05-2005 02:31

No. You are a piece of fucking shit. Theres gonna actually be someone who buys that you know? BTW this scam has been around for a long time, and is quite well known. You'll probably get caught.
Author Topic: Ebay scam - Pics

navyseals101
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posted 07-05-2005 23:49

XBOX PICTURE DOWN BELLOW! but instead you actually get the picture, i beleive this scam has been tried before on XBOX FireHawk3029
Regular posted 07-06-2005 02:52

This is the kind of shit that makes the internet and eBay such a bitch, cause you never know what kind of asshole is going to do something to rip you off.. But good luck to you and my condolences to the poor fellow who takes this blow, better hope hes not a serial killer, or even worse, a child molestor (muahaha) jonogt
Regular posted 07-16-2005 07:01

did you post it on ebay yet?

AionTheDemon
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posted 07-16-2005 16:47

Why not putting the text directly on the pic ? vonelab
Regular posted 07-16-2005 20:30

Ebay usually reads all the text and will deny any auctions like this. I also suggest putting the text in the pic because I have a theory that when the ebay employees read the text, they are only shown the text not the pics. Therefor it gets right past um. I may be wrong though. The Mad Bomber
Regular posted 07-16-2005 20:35

scamming on ebay is like becomming a man-whore, even if you make money you're still gay.

Haddock
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posted 07-16-2005 22:02

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Originally posted by vonelab: Ebay usually reads all the text and will deny any auctions like this. I also suggest putting the text in the pic because I have a theory that when the ebay employees read the text, they are only shown the text not the pics. Therefor it gets right past um. I may be wrong though.

Why wouldn't they get to see the pics? If that were true, someone could post "Collection of Pokemon cards", but then put a picture of a woman fucking a horse as the picture." vonelab
Regular posted 07-16-2005 22:24

In theory they simply view the text to eliminate time for some auctions with tons of pics. They also definately read fine print if you have it at the bottom, I put the fine print in a picture and they didn't seem to notice it then. Haddock
Regular posted 07-16-2005 22:28

I think they'd look at the pictures to make sure there's nothing inappropriate in them. It only takes a few seconds to glance over some pictures. celbii
Regular quote: posted 07-17-2005 05:08

Originally posted by hdcwr0x2: No. You are a piece of fucking shit. Theres gonna actually be someone who buys that you know? BTW this scam has been around for a long time, and is quite well known. You'll probably get caught.

FOR FUCKS SAKES THIS IS ONE OF THE ONLY SMART MAN IN THIS THREAD, THIS SCAM HAS BEEN AROUND FOR FUCKING AGES, DUMB CUNTS WHO SAID THEY NEVER SEEN IT BEFORE. btw, ill search for your auction and report you to ebay. IAMN0TTH3P0STMAN posted 07-17-2005 07:17
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Ebay is shit for selling. Me and a friend tried selling ourselves on Ebay and Ebay shut down our action. Dam Ebay, then we decided to try it again, but say it was a picture of us somewhere. I don't really remember what happend after this tho. I got kinda bored with it and didn't check it again, but chances are it got shut down anyway. Now on to the topic. I think you will get caught, but there isn't really much they can do about it. It does simply state that it is a picture. Yes, i agree with the many above me in saying that it should not be under features. Also make a note somewhere in it saying that all of the specifications are of the object in the photo not the photo itself. InvisibleManiac
Regular posted 07-17-2005 07:50

You probably won't, but if you do work out all the bugs and do it, write on the back of the picture: "X-BOX" Photograhped by Name And refer to it as X-BOX as opposed to XBOX, like the title of a painting. (it doesn't have to be the hyphen thing, just a variation in spelling) Cybernetico
Regular quote: posted 07-17-2005 16:17

Originally posted by z.neocide: The word gigaflops made me laugh.

Haha, me too. I'm going to use it from now on.

Cybernetico
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posted 07-17-2005 16:19

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Originally posted by z.neocide: The word gigaflops made me laugh.

Haha, me too. I'm going to use it from now on. I tried to import a Japanese Dreamcast game on Ebay, and the person told me they never recieved my money order. I don't really use Ebay anymore now. The_Reckoning Returns
Regular posted 07-17-2005 16:35

Dirty fucking scumbag. Someone expects to recieve an XBox from that. What if, perchance, the person who buys the XBox is a single mom who has just been through a finance-wrenching divorce, and has saved up the spare money from 2 months wages of working as a cleaner to buy that as a Christmas present for her son, hmm? How harsh would that be? Ebay scammers suck balls. The only scams I agree with are the kind which are targeted towards assholes. I don't mind the following things being scammed over: Rap CDs. Emo CDs. Lifetime movies. Celebrity things.

The rest are bought by usually honest, hardworking people. Cockbite.

nYc Mac-53
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posted 07-17-2005 18:21

Stop botherin the poor guy If you don't take time to read everything then your bound to get scammed this isn't a fuckin store, this is people trying to make money by selling you something he could even sell a broken xbox and get away with it if your not smart enought to read then your going to get scammed BTW i believe i saw something written in totse about a ebay scam i can't find it right now but if i do i'll let you know but back to my yelling for gods sakes you people are too trusting NOTE - the_reckonings statement about celebrity scams are pretty good they rake in money but they get ruined because you always have the one dick rider who knows the celebrity's handwriting too well anyway good luck on your scam One_Armed_Scissor
Regular posted 07-18-2005 08:03

Cry more, please. If you're dumb enough not to read about what you're buying, then this scam is perfect for you.
quote:

Originally posted by The_Reckoning Returns: Dirty fucking scumbag. Someone expects to recieve an XBox from that. What if, perchance, the person who buys the XBox is a single mom who has just been through a financewrenching divorce, and has saved up the spare money from 2 months wages of working as a cleaner to buy that as a Christmas present for her son, hmm? How harsh would that be? Ebay scammers suck balls. The only scams I agree with are the kind which are targeted towards assholes. I don't mind the following things being scammed over: - Rap CDs.

- Emo CDs. - Lifetime movies. - Celebrity things. The rest are bought by usually honest, hardworking people. Cockbite.

Generic Box Of Cookies
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posted 07-18-2005 08:57

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A digital picture is all this auction is for. No Xbox will be sent.

how can you send a digital picture through the mail? Mr.Happy
Regular posted 07-18-2005 10:51

Not that I condone this (get a fucking job), but this works best with Photo iPods. They're extremely popular, and most people that buy them aren't poor (why would you buy an overpriced fashion accessory unless you had money to spare?). Word the auction something like "Colour Photo iPod 60gb." You can find a colour photo of a 60gb iPod fairly easily - this one would do.. This way, you're actually stating that they're bidding on a colour photo of a 60gb iPod, depending on how you read the title. vIsUaLLY aPPealiNG
Regular quote: posted 07-18-2005 11:07

Originally posted by hdcwr0x2: No. You are a piece of fucking shit. Theres gonna actually be someone who buys that you know? BTW this scam has been around for a long time, and is quite well known. You'll probably get caught.

How noble of you to get all upset about random strangers on ebay. Remember this is the fucking bad ideas forum, where everything from breaking and entering to counterfeit money and scams are discussed. Virtually every thread in the forum has a victim that would lose out like your random strangers, so please either stfu or post the same message on every thread. There are loads of scam artists on ebay, so one more would hardly make any difference. The scam isnt well known enough that everyone in the thread knew about it, so likely a random stranger wouldnt notice if he was looking through, as if the guy hints that its just a pic it should in theory be legal enough to get to auction. ----Just one thing i would change though, post several at once, as once the first person has realised whats happening they are likely to post bad feedback, which would make it difficult to find another buyer afterwards. and its not difficult to mail a picture, just print it off and put it in an envelope. [This message has been edited by vIsUaLLY aPPealiNG (edited 07-182005).] vonelab
Regular posted 07-18-2005 20:38

I agree with Visually Appealing squeegee
Regular posted 07-19-2005 00:01

Why the fuck is this still being discussed? Didnt I post this shit a couple of months ago? I decided to wait and put one together for the 360. Ebay will be flooded with them. I've decided to grow some shrooms in the meantime. By the way, I do have a fucking job. This forum is BAD IDEAS. Its not the morally right ideas, or the nice people love each other forum. If you have a problem with my lack of care for my 'neighbor', I suggest you turn a blind eye upon it.

asma123
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posted 07-19-2005 00:41

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Originally posted by Merse: Wow, I must congratulate you, this must be one of the best eBay scams i have ever seen. Good thing I'm not looking for an Xbox lol.

N0 W4RN1NG
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posted 07-19-2005 02:56

quote:

Originally posted by squeegee: ...This forum is BAD IDEAS. Its not the morally right ideas, or the nice people love each other forum...

LOL, That made me laugh haha... Anyway great scam... I gotta try and make one, I'm a little sore for cash right now. *NOTE TO SELF: Do not buy the 360 off ebay...* pyroanarchist
Regular posted 07-20-2005 15:15

Didnt read all the posts but... If you say the Xbox has all of these features Then put a disclaumer in like 2pt text saying something like "all these details are for entertainment purposes only. No Xbox is included in this sale." You should be fine, might get bad feed back(%100 guranteed)

n1k
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posted 07-21-2005 01:47

Is it just me, or is this the least profitable scam ever? I mean, what will you make, maybe 100$ in a week... Considering the risk involved and the pathetic reward I'm amazed that anyone is dumb enough to seriously consider it...get a job... Real.PUA
Regular posted 07-21-2005 02:19

So squeegee bitched out. You puss. LucifyRe
Regular posted 07-21-2005 02:29

Heh.. I'm fucking telling the owner of ebay about your little scam site you fucking piece of shit. heh i just actually read his post and thats a really bad idea.. because that person who gets scammed will probably be uber pissed and try to sue you or something.. [This message has been edited by LucifyRe (edited 07-21-2005).] One_Armed_Scissor
Regular posted 07-21-2005 03:49

Listen... if you state the product is a PICTURE and someone buys it for $150 or whatever, there is nothing they can do. squeegee
Regular posted 07-22-2005 07:57

The fact is that if you state completely what it is, and none if it is misleading...its not a crime fools. You make a title that can be misinterpreted and as you can plainly see, the auction does actually say that it is a picture. You people that are flaming me don't deserve to post on this forum. I will state again: THIS IS THE BAD IDEAS FORUM. BAD IDEAS. THIS IS NOT A FORUM TO DISCUSS MORALS OR GOOD IDEAS TO HELP YOUR FELLOW FRIENDS. IF YOU HAVE A PROBLEM WITH IT, POST SOMEWHERE ELSE FOR CHRISTS SAKE. [This message has been edited by squeegee (edited 07-22-2005).]
Author Topic: switching tags on clothes?

mighty moe
Regular posted 07-21-2005 00:41

I want to try this scam at winners, switching the tags on $80 jeans with like $40 dollar tags or w.e, anyone have any ideas on how i could replace the tags and have it stay there?

Solisious
Regular posted 07-21-2005 01:03

this is a form of shoplifting , so it migth get closed . but yeah it can be done but is still prosecuted as shoplifting and any good stores will catch it .. so it's a dumb idea nowdays , when it came out it worked so everyone did it but now it's all to commomn and to easy to get caught

mighty moe
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posted 07-21-2005 15:49

mighty moe
Regular posted 07-22-2005 01:29

fuck you guys then

krazy_latino
Regular posted 07-22-2005 08:41

Try it I usually do that ( not at winners and clothes)but for other stuff. But can u tell me wut the tags look like or how they're on there.

badwiskey
Regular posted 07-22-2005 08:50

Dont all stores these days have computer screens and barcode scanners? You take your switched item up, a jersey or jacket or something, and it rings up as a pair of socks, lol. I guess you could try it at older stores without the technology.

mighty moe
Regular posted 07-22-2005 14:04

http://www.bobbydene.com/dr402tag.jpg ^^ that's the closet picture i could find of what the tag looks like, anyway picture something like that but with a barcode, also there are many diferent kinds of brands of jeans there, you could a $30 blue pair of jeans and switch the tag with a $90 blue pair of jeans, then i dont think it would look suspicous..

scuzzy-elo
Regular posted 07-22-2005 18:47

Since you made no specifications, I will assume you are talking about the paper clothing tags with plastic studs through a hole in the top. Grab the tag of the expensive item, with your fingers close to the hole where the plastic stud is, and gently pull on the tag until the stud goes through the hole and rips the paper around it a little bit. Now do the same with an item of lesser value using the same technique. Now you just pop the cheaper priced tag over the plastic stud on the expensive jeans and voila. Just do this in a area of the store that is not monitored in any way. Very simple. If in fact I posted a procedure for tags unlike the ones you are attempting to meddle with, post a picture or do your best to describe the tag and I'll post something else.

703
Regular posted 07-22-2005 22:37

Well today I went to Aeropostael(sp?) flame or w/e I dont care the comftorable. Well I purchased 2 pairs of jeans and a pair of shorts. On one of the pair of jeans it rang up as $16.99 so I would assume there was a wrong tag on it(or switched) and she was like "owell its cheaper for you". So I basically got a $10 discount. So maybe the people at the register wont care but more to the point. I went to a sporting goods store last winter looking to buy gogles. I wanted oakleys they had them priced for $35 to $125. So I switched the tags on the the $35 gogles with the $125 ones. When I went to the check out it was quite buisy. She rang it up and didnt suspedt a thing. So your best bet is to do it during a buisy time. I see no way this wnt work and if they do catch you just say a worker must have screwed up then leave and try a new store. 703

mighty moe
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posted 07-23-2005 09:06

quote:

Originally posted by scuzzy-elo: Since you made no specifications, I will assume you are talking about the paper clothing tags with plastic studs through a hole in the top. Grab the tag of the expensive item, with your fingers close to the hole where the plastic stud is, and gently pull on the tag until the stud goes through the hole and rips the paper around it a little bit. Now do the same with an item of lesser value using the same technique. Now you just pop the cheaper priced tag over the plastic stud on the expensive jeans and voila. Just do this in a area of the store that is not monitored in any way. Very simple. If in fact I posted a procedure for tags unlike the ones you are attempting to meddle with, post a picture or do your best to describe the tag and I'll post something else.

http://www.bobbydene.com/dr402tag.jpg yeah those are the tags im talking about

Author

Topic:

What are some successful ways to steal clothes?

bumpkins505
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posted 07-12-2005 02:57

im going to attempt to steal some clothes from Ross dress for less but Im looking for some clever techniques so I have a less chance of getting caught. First of all the fitting room attendant counts all the clothes and hands you a card with the # on it. I'm gonna have a friend with me so please help me cook up a good scam. SOMETIMES they check if you have clothes hiding under the clothes but its VERY rare and they only do it to like 1 item of clothing. Im just looking for help to make a good scam toget away with clothing since i've been shoplifting other items for a long while but inexpeirenced in shoplifting clothes. Any ideas?

bumpkins505
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posted 07-12-2005 03:00

Im adding on ^ some ideas that my friend and I have come up with -take clothes into dressing room ( some you dont want and some clothes you do want) and while in the dressing room take of the tags of the clothes you do want then go out and try putting the shirt or w/e under your sweatshit. Another one was bringing a Ross bag in with us from a previous purchase and walking around the store putting clothes in the bag then walking out.. Help? lol Fayt
Regular posted 07-12-2005 03:04

Or try this, wear a shitty .10 shirt under a hoodie, try on the shirt you want, put the .10 shirt in the pile while wearing the other one out. Works best if you have like, 7+ shirts to try on. bumpkins505
Regular posted 07-12-2005 03:15

yea that is a REALLY good idea like wearing two crappy old shirts under a big shirt, then getting two shirts that are like the same color as them then go into the fitting room, put on the new shirts and put the old shirts on the hangers, then going out and say 'oh im buying these' then go to put them on the rack. bumpkins505
Regular posted 07-12-2005 05:59

any other ideas ppl? Andreas
Regular posted 07-12-2005 06:15

I'd assume walking around with the bag and then beating a hasty ass retreat would be good...

carbo
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posted 07-12-2005 06:31

You could put on tight/normal fitting jeans under a baggy pair. The Mad Bomber
Regular posted 07-12-2005 06:40

Just find someone walking in the middle of nowhere (like a forested path) point a gun at them and ask for their clothes... it's a good prank and it's easy. bumpkins505
Regular posted 07-12-2005 07:45

hahaha nice one too bad i dont live near a forested path .. Bananas
Regular posted 07-12-2005 12:20

Damn. No forrest... But you do have a gun? Why don't you just fucking pay for the clothes, rat.. reallystupidstuff posted 07-12-2005 14:21
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just go to the lost and found somewhere and grab ll the clothes you want PanchoThePyro
Regular posted 07-12-2005 20:54

Hve a distraction have a friend fake a siezure brake something or start yelling then just qietly take shit and walk away the people at ross rnt that smart. faithbanks
Regular quote: posted 07-12-2005 20:57

Originally posted by PanchoThePyro: Hve a distraction have a friend fake a siezure brake something or start yelling then just qietly take shit and walk away the people at ross rnt that smart.

Excellent. You can also find an alpha aisle and just stuff and go after snipping off the tags. I tried this before and was successful, but I was moving as fast as lightening. bumpkins505
Regular posted 07-13-2005 01:21

to bananas: hell yea im a rat!!! why pay for clothes when u can get em for free?? O.o bianco
Regular posted 07-13-2005 05:06

well what i do is u walk around the store an get say a pair of jeans that u know will fit u and that u like/ want... then u stash the pair u want inside another pair of jeans. u put both pairs on the same hanger, grab 2 or so more pairs of jean (making sure it looks as if ur interested in them) take them up to the fitting rooms. hopefull they will jus give u the hanger numbers. if not an they do check just play stupid an be like "oh wow... nah i only wanted them ones...i had no idea" uno play em around they cant convict u of anything. once they give u the tag then u go into the rooms, take off everything like the barcodes, sercurity tags etc off the pair u want. there are some write ups on here that explain how to do this. then put ur baggy jeans over the top... make sure nothing is showing from the other pair. u even have a mirror to look at. then take a single pair an say ul take that one an leave the other pairs with the fitting room person. then u dump that pair of jeans on a rack an walk outa there.... got urself a new pair of jean... works with other clothes too. Bananas
Regular quote: posted 07-13-2005 10:55

Originally posted by bumpkins505: to bananas: hell yea im a rat!!! why pay for clothes when u can get em for free?? O.o

...i wish i had parents like yours.. Hell, i wish the whole world had parents like yours, eventually we'd all just kill eachother - 'cause we could.. Like, I Mean, Like, Why Ask For Sex When You Can Just Rape Her? person
Regular posted 07-13-2005 11:06

Pay for it? bumpkins505
Regular posted 07-14-2005 00:33

uhm.. bananas, how about, you dont post in 'bad ideas' threads if you are just going to complain hyde wolf
Regular quote: posted 07-14-2005 03:48

Originally posted by bumpkins505: uhm.. bananas, how about, you dont post in 'bad ideas' threads if you are just going to complain

agreed. --me -03-

TwoMulattoes
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posted 07-14-2005 06:49

Ha. Back in the day I got biggest amount of stolen merchandise $ from clothes. I'm sure what I jacked totalled at least 100. Technique was quite simple. The stores dressing rooms were barely guarded at all. Basically, I had a backpack, and I would grab a handful of clothes that I wanted to try on. I would pick out 2 of the item that I actually wanted, and one would go in my bag. I sometimes bought an item or two to avoid suspicion. Stores like JC Penny's works best. Come to think of it, the one I shop at has a big dressing room that is usually empty. In the case of cameras, just be discrete. The place I stole from in the past claimed to have cameras, so I would pretend as though I was being watched, even though I was pretty sure I wasn't. Position yourself inside the dressing room in a way that a camera couldn't see what you are doing. Um...yeah, clothes are basically the easiest thing to steal, as you get privacy. Just avoid censors and you are fine. bumpkins505
Regular posted 07-15-2005 10:13

thanx and hell yea, the jcpenney in my mall has a dressing room that is NEVER guarded wierd people hyde wolf
Regular quote: posted 07-26-2005 22:41

Originally posted by bumpkins505: thanx and hell yea, the jcpenney in my mall has a dressing room that is NEVER guarded wierd people

dosn't jc penny have ink tags? --me -03Author Topic: New (?) scam to get free stuff from shops

EdRose
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posted 07-13-2005 02:26

Okay, I've read a fair amount of stuff around here and I haven't heard this before, forgive me if it's been talked about but what I really want is some feedback as to any flaws with the plan and whether you think it would work. It is as of yet untested because it seems so obvious I'm worried that I'm overlooking something. Okay... 1) You go into clothes shop (for example) and purchase item you want legitimately with cash and get recipt. 2) Next day you return with the shop bag and the receipt but leave item at home. You go and you find the exact same item. If the item is tagged go to "Try it on" and remove all tags and markings. Leave changing rooms and say 'I think I'll buy it' if they ask. 3) Make your way to cash register when you get there say "I'd like to return this item, it's the wrong size" show them the receipt, they give you the cash back you walk out the store. Now I can't personally see the flaw in this plan but let me know if there are any. A few notes: a) You'd want to do it at a large store where the cashiers cannot see you pick up an item and walk over, it would have to look to any observant cashier than you had come from the direction of the entrance already holding the item. b) You should pay in cash not by card, this minimises any identification with you and the product you purchased. It's also more convenient to get the money straight back rather than having to sign for things and hsit. c) One of the beauties of this plan, I think, is that anybody watching you in the store or on CCTV will assume you are PURCHASING the item when you queue up. The only person who knows different is the cashier who is busy cashiering and certainly isn't thinking about combating crime. Feedback please.

BOMBS_AWAY
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posted 07-13-2005 03:02

it sound possible, you would want to do it at a store with two entrances on opposite sisea of the store, this will help wou loose any security guards that may see you go in, some targets would work because the generally have two entrances. It would probably work best for men (with clothing) as most woman try on clothes before hand. good work, but allitle time consuming. diet n00b
Regular posted 07-13-2005 03:07

sounds good derrodude
Regular posted 07-13-2005 04:35

dude this is heaps mad , is there anything else u cud do this with , like stuff which isnt clothes. 0x29A
Regular posted 07-13-2005 07:15

the flaw is that people entering with bags will often be watched, especially with bags that read the stores name, because they allready know about this scam. Zer0 Cool
Regular posted 07-13-2005 07:23

unless you keep it in your pocket - hahahahaahaa Tom Servo
Regular posted 07-13-2005 08:33

This has been posted plenty of times before. However, my only recommendation would be not to get stupid about this. The last time this 'scam' was posted, the idiot that thought he "came up" with this idea was talking about trying to take out whole stereos and what not. Speaking of which, the customer service counter, where one goes to get a refund, is usually seperate from the cash registers.

woodchuck_love posted 07-13-2005 09:18
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Don't do this at Walmart, don't do this anywhere that LP's actively watch cameras. This is a very common scheme that LP's regularly catch people doing. Drugstores will probably be okay most of the time. brendy
Regular posted 07-13-2005 10:08

also many stores make you return any items to be returned before buying more , im unsure if they would let you return items if you came from the main part of the store rather than the entrance , may work with dubble entrance stores Tom Servo
Regular posted 07-13-2005 20:23

Perhaps I forgot to mention that those attempting to "return" an item that hasn't been recorded as sold in the computer system will bring back an error message when the item is scanned for return. Why? Because the computer knows that the item hasn't been sold. In other words... Every time you buy an item and the cashier scans it, that item is actually marked in the computer's database as being sold. Attempting to "return" an item that hasn't been sold yet will often not work because there's no need to return an item to a database if it hasn't been sold. Thus, the clerk at the return counter scans the items you took from the store, figures out that it's never been sold, and then tells you to "Hold on," while she pretends to call somebody else. She walks ten feet away to a phone, and instead calls security. [This message has been edited by Tom Servo (edited 07-13-2005).]

woodchuck_love posted 07-13-2005 21:13
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Originally posted by Tom Servo: Every time you buy an item and the cashier scans it, that item is actually marked in the computer's database as being sold. Attempting to "return" an item that hasn't been sold yet will often not work because there's no need to return an item to a database if it hasn't been sold.

I don't know what movie world you live in, but all UPC codes for each item are the same (e.g. "crest toothpaste minty fresh gel" all have the UPC 724359099620). There is no unique identification of items in 99% of all retail stores, and 100% if all you are only counting the UPC system. True, most stores have inventory systems where they keep track of how many of an item are sold, but there is no way of knowing the specific serial number of an item at the cash register unless you are talking very expensive electronic items. Tom Servo
Regular posted 07-14-2005 00:12

The store I work in has individual barcodes for every single item in the store. I took a temp job at a formalwear factory once. Every item shipped out of the store had a different barcode. I can go through products that I have two of at my house that have different barcodes on them. From my experience, it's more than 1% of items that have individual barcodes on them. Maybe I assumed to much in my post - However, I can tell you with certainty that if somebody tried to pull this at the store where I work at, I'd know immediately. [This message has been edited by Tom Servo (edited 07-14-2005).]

woodchuck_love posted 07-14-2005 01:50
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Fair enough. I imagine that kind of individual UPC is generally reserved for the more upscale stores, thanks for the information. Soon more stores will latch on to all the RFID crap as well, giving them the capability to uniquely identify items like this even easier. hyde wolf
Regular posted 07-14-2005 03:58

i like it. why not do it in batches though so it would be more rewarding? you could get say 100-200 bucks worth of shit and say it was for a gift but you "brother" is too tall for them. it might work better right after the holidays cause everyone is returning shit sfter the holidays. im liking it more and more. you could do it with shoes too. keep this thread alive --me -03lasko
Regular quote: posted 07-14-2005 06:08

Originally posted by EdRose: 2) Next day you return with the shop bag and the receipt but leave item at home. You go and you find the exact same item. If the item is tagged go to "Try it on" and remove all tags and markings. Leave changing rooms and say 'I think I'll buy it' if they ask.

That wouldn't work for me. Most of the clothing shops around here will only let you return the item if it still has all the original tags on it.

EdRose
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posted 07-14-2005 14:36

Right so I tried it in this one store but was stupid because this store does do the unique identification thing. It's not difficult to find out if they do it though, just look on the receipt, if each individual item has a number by it, then they do unique them. If they don't then I guess it's safe to assume they have universal barcodes. (Could the person who posted who works in a store confirm that? Do your receipts have a number by each item? Or is it simply in the system whether that particular item has been sold?) So anyway I try it in this store but I'm stupid and haven't noticed the numbers by the item on the receipt and this happened: "Hey I wanna return this." *He checks it* "Let me just talk to somebody" *He talks to somebody as he compares receipt to number on inside of shirt "Let me go and talk to somebody else." *He comes back... I'm pretty scared but acting cool* "Yeah one of our assitants scanned it wrong. Our apologies" Then he gave me the refund. I guess I got lucky! Still think this would work fine in the stores which do not have unique items. I was looking at Dvds in HMV and the numbers were the same for idential products. woodchuck_love posted 07-15-2005 08:55
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how about this one: buy a $300 pair of pants buy a $50 pair of pants take them home and switch the tags. use a tag reattacher if necessary. return the $50 pair with the $300 tag, and make sure you return them to a dumbass who doesn't actually know his store's products very well. net profit = $250

[This message has been edited by woodchuck_love (edited 07-15-2005).] Jesus Crunch
Regular posted 07-15-2005 22:59

Sounds like a good plan. As many other people said, there is a problem that they might catch you on camera and they might watch you more carfully because you entered with the bag. [This message has been edited by Jesus Crunch (edited 07-15-2005).]
Author Topic: charity scams

yay_dreamer
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posted 07-16-2005 03:40

yeah,...im new. anyways...im just trying to get a lil insight from like minded people about an idea that SWIM keeps wants to try. the idea is to plaster a picture of a baby, with some sob story about poor upbringing, terminal illness, mixed with some clever words such as GOD, and thing of the like. take that lil flyer and tape it onto a coffee jar with a hole in the top. set it up in high traffic public area that has transaction being made within the same place, such as a flea market. ya think it'd help if it was set up at a space in the flea market that was run by a nice elderly lady?...for some reason i keep thinking "JACKPOT". what do you guys think? ryan_p_20
Regular posted 07-16-2005 04:01

Sounds like a good idea. Have valid website adresses and/or phone numbers to charities incase some one gets suspicious. I did door to door scamming with no materials, and i would get a couple of people interested each time.
Author Topic: funiture fraud posted 07-16-2005 23:53

jesusfan
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well as I flipped through the channels I landed on the least volitile of programing on my television set which was (un)fortunately the antiques road show . Well I watched this fellow apraise a table it looked fairly normal , it was finished quite well but nothing spectacular however it seemed that because the finishings it showed that the designer was some famous furniture maker who's work was very rare and even though there was no proof that the designer made that table because it looked like it , it's estimated worth was about $25,000 at auction . Well I figure to get that wood and to do that work would be about a month and a bits worth of spare time . However for a month an maybe a hundred bucks worth of wood is worth $25,000 dollars (to me anyway) . So my question is do you think this would work ? Also that auction estimation was for an un-named peice (something that doesnt have proof that it was a that designer who made it) . The only thing that might be hard would be making it look worn without it looking tottaly fucked .

greg509
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posted 07-26-2005 22:59

There is shit you can do to make it look worn. I get shit loads of magazines on gardening and they all of shit like making benches in them. Do a google and I am sure you will find somthing usefull.
Author Topic: How to get 20 - 100 bucks fast posted 07-06-2005 05:31

Lynk
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Read above. Heres the situation. I need some cash. I live in a neighborhood where non of these assholes around here will give me work to do for cash. (its either they mow there own grass or they play with themselves all day needing nothing else done for them) Basically I live in an arrea where everybody has no change to spare or are greedy fuckers. (Can't tell). Work is not an option cause every fuckin time I apply somewhere the assholes call for an interview and never need employment or "your under 18" (Old enough to fuck your wife). Could plant weed and sell it but that takes a month to grow (need the shit now.) Nothing good to sell. Can't steal off of parents. (they got there own problems) siblings ain't got shit. I got too much respect for friend to even think about stealing from them. (Never know when your gonna need help) Steal from a store might work but, I need the money this week. so steal and sell is what my only option is... Give me some suggestions. Lynk
Regular posted 07-06-2005 05:33

Better yet. How do you steal the games from an eb or walmart? (Fucking glass cases and small stores) I know someone who would give me cash real fast for that shit.

doornob_lightbulb
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posted 07-06-2005 05:34

omg, i know how too, get a ride to a nice fancy park and raid the fountain, or raid the fountains at malls, public areas, everywhere., you can make some good money fast by raiding fountains, works best in canada becuase dumb shits put toonies in there(2 doaller canadian coins) Lynk
Regular posted 07-06-2005 05:39

I don't think I'll get it all out before some greedy fuckin security guard comes by and pulls me out of the fountain. Besides theres not enogh money in there. Now if I would do something like put a trampoline cover (or a close threaded net) in the fountain right as they open and pullin out at the end of the day with all the cash. Zer0 Cool
Regular posted 07-06-2005 06:26

pickpocket off people from school, go doorknocking and make up a charity and panhandle in a rich area think wank do scuzzy-elo
Regular posted 07-06-2005 06:47

Here is a simple tool for janking DVD/game discs. I_Throw_Bricks_At_Windows posted 07-06-2005 07:17
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There might be an alternative. What do you need the money for?

brendy
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posted 07-06-2005 08:22

quote:

Originally posted by doornob_lightbulb: omg, i know how too, get a ride to a nice fancy park and raid the fountain, or raid the fountains at malls, public areas, everywhere., you can make some good money fast by raiding fountains, works best in canada becuase dumb shits put toonies in there(2 doaller canadian coins)

that is a fucken sweet idear i fountian in town has lots of $$$ in it often

eesakiwi
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posted 07-06-2005 08:40

Scrapmetal. Find out where yah closest scrapmetal dealer is, and the price they pay for the metals. And the difference in grades of each metal, and the prices for them. That gives you a idea of how much work yah should put into it. Yah need a place to do it in, where yah can make plenty of noise and leave rubbish around without offending anyone. Yah need a (this is the best part) a Axe! Ear plugs, protection Glasses, leather gloves of some sort. A Socket sets handy, so is Allen keys (Hex keys?) A heavy Hammer and a Cold chisel. Some screw drivers - & + sort. Plyers or sidecutters for cuttin wire. Yah need a source of metal. Old cars, White ware disposals (washing machines, fridges, dishwashers etc) Car, truck and moterbike wrecks. Old Aliuminum windows. Old buildings, fixtures, copper pipe and cable.

Moters (electric) Wrecked stuff from backyards, like stuffed lawnmowers, deckchairs, Tv ariels. General rubbish shit, car number plates, sign posts, pots and pans, cans and stuff. Once yah got that. Take what yah wrecking, apart, using tools. OK its gonna take a lot of time and a few bruises too. But once yah done that, yah know whats inside it and where the bolts and screws and pins are. Once yah done that, and figured out where the quick money is. Take your axe and chop it apart. With a bit of experience you can virtualy take a lawnmower/ fridge/washing machine/oven apart in about 10 well placed blows, bolts and all. Lead; yah get fukkall$ for this, but yah find it all the time and once yah have enough, yah an sell it for a few $. Its like US$0.40 a Kg A better idea for Lead is to make up some molds (can be brought in most fishin stores anyway) and some Stainless steel wire. And make fishing line sinkers and sellem. Or Divers weight belts. sellem too. Good dosh, divers always want more weights, dunno why, but they do. Old car/truck batterys, maybe they have a set prices for these at the scrappers, about US$1.00 - US$4.00 each. Aluminium; US$1.00 to US$3.00 Kg. Good money here, normally 3 different values. Domestic: general stuff with paint or oxides on it. Freezer parts and Oven fittings and trays etc. Car parts, heads, blocks (no iron!) air con parts, gear boxs, diffs, wheel rims. Clean: larger extrusions (Ali window edging) clean small stuff with no oxides, clean solid castings - no oils or paint. Condensers from inside fridges. Irony: Castings or bits with bolts and screws still in it. Some times its not worth the extra effort to get every steel bit out. They normally remove that stuff at the scrappers, they have the tools. Brass; Yeah, good money here too. Taps and fausets(sp?) old window fixtures. Copper pipe fittings (at the ends, hex nuts and sockets) Bullet

shells, car parts, Bearings from general whiteware and small stuff. Bronze; Better $ than brass, theres several types, so find out if yah gonna come across any, normally its bronze bushes and bearings, not easy to get to always. Copper; 3 types again, Domestic: copper pipe, fittings, wire with varnish or paint on it (transformer windings, cut one side out with a chisel and wrench the other side out with a crowbar) telephone/power cables. Bright: Thi$ i$ where the best money i$. Copper thats come from cable, its had the outer rubber/plastic cut off from the wire. Copper sheeting thats still shiney like new. Burnt: yeah well its not the best for the enviroment but.. If yah have Lots of cable (household stuff and short lengths) and can't be botherd stripping it, make a large pile and burn the plastic off it, stinks and lots of smoke, so be carefull where yah do it. Its dirty with carbon, so yah have to scrunch it up a bit so the shit comes off and then put it in sacks. Don't shit on your dealer, common sense but... If yah start moving a fair bit they might give you a extra good price at certain times. Sometimes they have quotas to meet and its worth them paying you extra. Actually they can be in 'cahoots' with the other dealers, while still in compititon. So again, keep in their good books. Don't steal shit to get the metal. If its, like from a place where you don't actually have permisson to get it(like it better bloody not co$st someone else money to have it replaced, 'couse if it does and yah get caught, it normally cost$ many times the actual scrap price to replace it. And they have to give up the details to the police, they HAVE too. Yah can't get away!) -Tellum, theres a bit of give and take on whats actual rubbish (ok, yah got it from someones rubbish dump, like) They know what yah have to do to get the metal, thats how

they started out. They will give you hints and might give you a job too. Take care and spend it well.

I_Throw_Bricks_At_Windows posted 07-06-2005 09:21
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Just post a link next time... pyrozarc
Regular posted 07-06-2005 12:33

Yesterday, SWIM shoplifted from HMV for the first time, and got 2 Futurama boxsets and 6 CDs and have sold them all for £60. Thats good cash for half an hours work. People have been asking SWIM to get them stuff from the same place, and they will pay very good cash. This is what SWIM charges: £6 per CD £10 per DVD boxset £6 per DVD 3 CDs for £15 3 DVD boxsets for £25 SWIM is considering getting some playstation 2 games too...... Therefore, shoplifting as a very good way to make money, easy and fast. SMKlown
Regular posted 07-06-2005 15:50

Stand on the street corner and be a slut. Do some pole dancing and stripping.

Lynk
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posted 07-06-2005 19:01

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Originally posted by SMKlown: Stand on the street corner and be a slut. Do some pole dancing and stripping.

I'm a man... maybe a pimp. But, that takes to long and need it quick. The CD cutting thing might work but, I don't know if I couold do that in a walmart with all those fucking cameras. Maybe in EB. I need 100 buck to get an online game for to friends of mine. It's called WOW or something like that. I have 30. There birthdays are in less than a week from now. I hate my neighbors, but, I'd do anything for a friend or family member. (Hell my friends help me out more than my family. Why the fuck should I help family? My OWN FUCKING MOTHER WON'T EVEN LET ME BORROW 15 BUCKS, Non the less 50.) [This message has been edited by Lynk (edited 07-06-2005).] jaronkenney
Regular quote: posted 07-06-2005 21:44

Originally posted by Lynk: I'm a man... maybe a pimp. But, that takes to long and need it quick. The CD cutting thing might work but, I don't know if I couold do that in a walmart with all those fucking cameras. Maybe in EB. I need 100 buck to get an online game for to friends of mine. It's called WOW or something like that. I have 30. There birthdays are in less than a week from now. I hate my neighbors, but, I'd do anything for a friend or family member. (Hell my friends help me out more than my family. Why the fuck should I help family? My OWN FUCKING

MOTHER WON'T EVEN LET ME BORROW 15 BUCKS, Non the less 50.)

www.torrentspy.com HYPOTHETICALLY, You will have to own the cd before downloading it. >_>. I backed up TONS of my DVDs CDs and Games. Not illegal if I own the disc. <_< Lynk
Regular posted 07-06-2005 22:52

i says its down for 30 minutes. Now it says its down for the next 24 hours. [This message has been edited by Lynk (edited 07-06-2005).] AionTheDemon
Regular posted 07-06-2005 23:36

Just go on barcoding. Look for a female blonde stupid looking teenager. You're on greg509
Regular quote: posted 07-06-2005 23:44

Originally posted by scuzzy-elo: Here is a simple tool for janking DVD/game discs.

your website is awesome

xoctopusx
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posted 07-07-2005 01:59

don't RISK YOUR FREEDOM FOR A GAME. Lynk
Regular quote: posted 07-07-2005 03:06

Originally posted by xoctopusx: don't RISK YOUR FREEDOM FOR A GAME.

Yo, I've been going nuts for the past 2 days over this little bit of shit. Freedom... I'll risk my own ass for some cash right now. If a mob/gang asked me to kill some one or do a job for 30-100 bucks. I would! I do got a possession that I just 'refound' thats worth some cash. An extra nintendo DS and a sealed game (Mario). But noone around here has the money I want for it. (Good thing the EB has a back door and Thank you echoman64 for the info from Here)

(Before anyone says anything abot get the game from the supply area. I stumbled upon the system and the game I had to grab and run cause someone was coming in there. I think they're suspect something but, who gives a shit. I can't be in the back cause I don't know exactly where they have the certain shit at.) [This message has been edited by Lynk (edited 07-07-2005).] Lynk
Regular posted 07-07-2005 03:51

This would have fuckin helped if I had time to prepare. http:// tinyurl.com/a3zps Pyro [This message has been edited by Lynk (edited 07-07-2005).]

crow4523
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posted 07-07-2005 04:18

Crush up Adderall and tell 13 year olds that it's meth. samosa_chem
Regular quote: posted 07-07-2005 06:46

Originally posted by crow4523: Crush up Adderall and tell 13 year olds that it's meth.

Inefficient. Crush up caffeine pills and tell them it's meth or some "new street drug" to be snorted. Rip them off for it. $10 for 1000 mg--that's $2.50/pill ozzfest
Regular posted 07-07-2005 07:14

Eh, if you have a jeep/truck and towstrap you could pull out stuck people. At the beach down here in Texas you drive yoru car on the bach. Little cars + sand = stuck car so ill roll by in four wheel drive and tell them ill pull them out for 10 bucks, Most people will do it. In one day i earned 80 dollars, a pack of cigs, half a blunt, and a 6 pack of bud light complexhiphop
Regular posted 07-07-2005 10:43

find a connect and sling some shit around your neighborhood.

Sooch
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posted 07-07-2005 13:28

If you have some old Cd's/videogames/dvds that you dont want anymore go to Cd Game exchange or something. You can aqquire some amount of money by just taking a box of Cd's that are slightly conditioned and get somewhere between $5$95 from having about 15 cd's in a box in their case with the little lyric booklet inside. vIsUaLLY aPPealiNG
Regular posted 07-07-2005 16:03

ask everyone you see if they can spare some change for the phone. Lynk
Regular quote: posted 07-07-2005 22:16

Originally posted by jaronkenney: www.torrentspy.com HYPOTHETICALLY, You will have to own the cd before downloading it. >_>. I backed up TONS of my DVDs CDs and Games. Not illegal if I own the disc. <_<

How do you download the games. And if I download a computer game how will I get a CD key.

superhornet59
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posted 07-08-2005 14:28

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Originally posted by Lynk: Better yet. How do you steal the games from an eb or walmart? (Fucking glass cases and small stores) I know someone who would give me cash real fast for that shit.

try best buy, theyre huge stores with lax security, an dthe games are out in the open. [This message has been edited by superhornet59 (edited 0708-2005).] lazyrocker1
Regular posted 07-08-2005 16:34

I think pirating software would take a whole other thread. And btw, most Totsians won't help you with that. Fallen Angust
Regular quote: posted 07-08-2005 16:43

Originally posted by Lynk: Read above. Heres the situation. I need some cash. I live in a neighborhood where non of these assholes around here will give me work to do for cash. (its either they mow there own grass or they play with themselves all day needing nothing else done for them) Basically I live in an arrea where everybody has no change to spare or are greedy fuckers. (Can't tell). Work is not an option cause every fuckin time I apply somewhere the assholes call for an interview and never need employment or

"your under 18" (Old enough to fuck your wife). Could plant weed and sell it but that takes a month to grow (need the shit now.) Nothing good to sell. Can't steal off of parents. (they got there own problems) siblings ain't got shit. I got too much respect for friend to even think about stealing from them. (Never know when your gonna need help) Steal from a store might work but, I need the money this week. so steal and sell is what my only option is... Give me some suggestions.

Well, how old are you? You could work in tobacco for august/ september. make like 90130 depending on the farm. Vegetables, other stuff. 4000 inside of two months "if your good/ 4 years ExP" This is new to some, but it is good money period. Find a rural area that consists of it, and pick and choose. SmartTart
Regular posted 07-08-2005 17:08

Hey, speaking of huge stores with laz security (someone said Best Buy), what about Costco? My brother works there and I've always been tempted to get some CD's or DVD's or hell, anything there. There are no camera's, no sensors, and if aren't too conspicous, you can cut what ever you need in one of their long hallways where there is no one there. Anywon ever tried shoplifting from Costco? SmartTart

Lynk
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posted 07-08-2005 17:19

For the CD opener I've cut 4 pieces of plastic 2 x 2 1/2 in. Now what do I do. (Next step, heat your piece in the middle along the 2 in axis.)??? I Love Poop
Moderator posted 07-09-2005 23:37

I'll give you $40.00 to wash, wax and detail (interior and exterior) my car and two motorcycles. Lynk
Regular quote: posted 07-09-2005 23:47

Originally posted by I Love Poop: I'll give you $40.00 to wash, wax and detail (interior and exterior) my car and two motorcycles.

Depends. What are you apart of? (Mafia, that shit) Bring the car over. fallingupstairs11
Regular posted 07-10-2005 04:23

have a birthday party Sliced Bread
Regular posted 07-10-2005 08:04

just give ur friends some porn (download it, burn it to a cd), i garuntee they will like it alot more than a video game

AxisNoodle
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posted 07-10-2005 16:38

Go searching through parking lots for cars that are unlocked. When you get in, steal the radio/money whatevers in there, but make sure you always get the radio. You can ask someone you trust thats over 18 (if your not over it) to pawn it at a pawn shop. If you get a really nice radio, you'd make the money you need in no time. Or if you've got balls try home invaisions. Most people leave change/cash on their dressers/under mattresses. You can take their jewelery too, and pawn that. Hell you might get lucky and find a house that has the game you want and steal it. Take their PS2 and Xbox while your at it. landfill
Regular quote: posted 07-10-2005 17:43

Originally posted by Lynk: How do you download the games. And if I download a computer game how will I get a CD key.

You need to get a bittorrent client ( http://www.bittorrent. com/ ). Most game torrents will include a keygen to generate a key. If not, it'll be piss easy to find one... [This message has been edited by landfill (edited 07-102005).] Mr.sobeman
Regular quote: posted 07-10-2005 21:34

Originally posted by Lynk: Yo, I've been going nuts for the past 2 days over this little bit of shit. Freedom... I'll risk my own ass for some cash right now. If a mob/gang asked me to kill some one or do a job for 30-100 bucks. I would! I do got a

possession that I just 'refound' thats worth some cash. An extra nintendo DS and a sealed game (Mario). But noone around here has the money I want for it. (Good thing the EB has a back door and Thank you echoman64 for the info from Here)

(Before anyone says anything abot get the game from the supply area. I stumbled upon the system and the game I had to grab and run cause someone was coming in there. I think they're suspect something but, who gives a shit. I can't be in the back cause I don't know exactly where they have the certain shit at.)

I think you need mental help, if your willing to kill a random person you don't know to be able to pay for a video game.

Lynk
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posted 07-11-2005 00:22

quote:

Originally posted by Mr.sobeman: I think you need mental help, if your willing to kill a random person you don't know to be able to pay for a video game.

Mental... nah that ain't the word your looking for... you mean something more meaning full ... like, uh psycho. There you go.

Lynk
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posted 07-11-2005 00:29

quote:

Originally posted by landfill: You need to get a bittorrent client ( http:// www.bittorrent.com/ ). Most game torrents will include a keygen to generate a key. If not, it'll be piss easy to find one...

Thanks. I'll ask you if I need any help in the future. Lynk
Regular posted 07-11-2005 00:33

Everyone. Thanks for your ideas, all the ones I tried worked. And when I got the shit I picked up some TCG packs for my friends little brother. I have $30 left over and I still have this fucking DS and game. I can't get the game until wednesday but, I fucked up on the date and his birthday isn't till saturday. Again thank you. (Since when does a theft show gratitude... shut the fuck up. its called respect) scuzzy-elo
Regular quote: posted 07-11-2005 04:40

Originally posted by Lynk: For the CD opener I've cut 4 pieces of plastic 2 x 2 1/2 in. Now what do I do. (Next step, heat your piece in the middle along the 2 in axis.)???

Look at the pictures.

Hold your lighter underneath the 2x2.5" piece of plastic and wave it back and forth longways. This will slightly melt a line in the plastic, which is where you place it over one side of a CD or DVD case, where the case opens, and mold the plastic into a "clip". After you follow the rest of the procedure, this clip is easily concealed, unlike a pocketknife, and can discreetely slice open the plastic along the opening of a sealed DVD case. This would allow for someone to discreetely open a DVD case and remove the DVD. codo3500
Regular posted 07-11-2005 05:04

Okay, i dont normally share this scam, but here we go. Go to Walmart, find something worth under $50, in a box, and something that is not gonna break. Smash the fuck out of the box without ruining the contents. Take it to the counter, and say "This is damaged, can i get a discount?" generally theyll knock about 75% off the price. Keep the receipt just incase this scam doesnt work out, we dont want you losing money. Go to another Walmart, or even the same Walmart a day later, and go to the returns/customer-service desk. Be creative and say "I want a refund for this, but unfortunately i dont have a receipt, unfortunately my parents each bought one of these and they asked me to bring this back and get a refund, it is still in unopened condition, you can even check it by pulling it out of the box" to which they will reply "okay, here is your refund", and will give you $50 for something you bought for maybe $20. If they refuse to give you a refund because you dont have a receipt, demand to speak to the manager, and threaten legal action, if they still wont give it to you, turns out you do have the receipt. This does work with bigger items, but anything over $50 and they will mail you a cheque rather than give you cash, and this takes time. Ive made $1500 out of this scam, and the only time they firmly said no, was with a $1500 TV that i picked up for $300. But hey, if you just want cheap shit, just damage the box, my christmas spending budget will be about $200 and i'll get my family some wicked shit!. Any questions just ask dude. insanitarium
Regular posted 07-11-2005 05:15

And about the Walmart, you can take anything you can conceal, as long as you can get in and out of the bathroom without getting caught. Once they lose sight of you, there's nothing they can do!

badwiskey
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posted 07-11-2005 05:35

Here's one way to make a few bucks. On garbage day, go around in your bike/car looking for those green/blue recycle bins. Wear some gloves so you dont accidentally cut yourself on some cans or glass, but bag it in trash bags and carry as much as you can. Be quiet though, for some reason this is illiegal even though its going to end up in the same place. Just go to the recycling center nearest you the next day and exchange all the cans/glass you collected for cash. The only downsides are that some states pay less/none at all, and you need a few bags to make it worthwhile. Stinkeye
Regular quote: posted 07-15-2005 06:32

Originally posted by doornob_lightbulb: omg, i know how too, get a ride to a nice fancy park and raid the fountain, or raid the fountains at malls, public areas, everywhere., you can make some good money fast by raiding fountains, works best in canada becuase dumb shits put toonies in there(2 doaller canadian coins)

Dude, it would work way better if you had a decent size magnet and some fishing line, odds are you could do it everyday without getting caught and your not gonna get wet

[This message has been edited by Stinkeye (edited 07-152005).]

Ghost_Rider
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posted 07-15-2005 07:58

Dumpster dive-hit up apartments, shopping centers/stores, libraries, college dorms, or even gated communities. Just hop the fence and your in and then sell whatever you've found at a pawn shop or on ebay. Don't forget to look behind places like salvation army or religious owned stores that sell donated junk. Sometimes you won't even have to look hard. I once noticed a copy machine outside someones house with their trash. Lynk
Regular posted 07-17-2005 18:43

Ok, now this is fucked up. I got my friend the game he got it to work and he played it for the past 4-5 days. He let me play it (this is where I fucked it up) when I was on the game killing shit I started fucking with peoples head and used qoute what they said 'naughty lauguage' and his account got susspended for the next week or so and he has a free months pass to play it. Does anyone know how to fix this shit? Or do I have to wait for these mamas boy geeks to finish there gay punishment for my friends game? kfc v lot
Regular posted 07-17-2005 18:48

car shop One_Armed_Scissor posted 07-18-2005 08:39
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Need quick cash? Simple. Think about how many people throw their receipts on the ground after leaving Wal-Mart, Target, etc. I'd say a good 50% or more. I mean, I almost always throw mine on the ground. Now... go out to the parking lot of Wal-Mart, and find a receipt for an expensive item... something like $50+. Go into the store, find whatever item the receipt is for, and then bring it up to the customer service place and ask for a refund. And if you don't even bother with receipts, just tell the cashier or whoever that you got the item as a birthday gift.

Lynk
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posted 07-18-2005 17:03

Theres on problem with your plan. YOU NEED THE EXPENSIVE ITEM. And besides I need help fixing the gift I got my friend. READ THE 2ND TO LAST POST ON THE FIRST PAGE. One_Armed_Scissor posted 07-18-2005 17:10
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Originally posted by Lynk: Theres on problem with your plan. YOU NEED THE EXPENSIVE ITEM. And besides I need help fixing the gift I got my friend. READ THE 2ND TO LAST POST ON THE FIRST PAGE.

"Go into the store, find whatever item the receipt is for, and then bring it up to the customer service place and ask for a refund." Is this not blatantly obvious enough? You get the item from the store. dur dur dur dur dur dur dur. Where else did you think it was coming from? Santa Clause? [This message has been edited by One_Armed_Scissor (edited 07-182005).] Lynk
Regular posted 07-18-2005 17:47

Didn't see that part... Not a bad idea. But, your playing a game of chance in finding a item worth the while. I still need to fix his shit cause no amount of money will help me with the new issue.

One_Armed_Scissor posted 07-18-2005 18:14
Regular quote:

Originally posted by Lynk: Didn't see that part... Not a bad idea. But, your playing a game of chance in finding a item worth the while. I still need to fix his shit cause no amount of money will help me with the new issue.

There are thousands of receipts in the parking lot of every wal-mart. SWIM got $120 last time he went to Wal-Mart. Experimental
Regular quote: posted 07-18-2005 19:03

Originally posted by Lynk: Ok, now this is fucked up. I got my friend the game he got it to work and he played it for the past 4-5 days. He let me play it (this is where I fucked it up) when I was on the game killing shit I started fucking with peoples head and used qoute what they said 'naughty lauguage' and his account got susspended for the next week or so and he has a free months pass to play it. Does anyone know how to fix this shit? Or do I have to wait for these mamas boy geeks to finish there gay punishment for my friends game?

You have to wait... sorry, but Blizzard is pretty strict on that in everything but WarCraft3... You got to wait it out. Nothing around it, unless you get him new game/cd key/account/ip address...

Lynk
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posted 07-18-2005 23:20

How long does he have to wait? Lynk
Regular posted 07-19-2005 03:26

Nevermind, its over. It was a 72 hour susspention...what fucking right do they have to take away time on a game they have to pay every month for. Thats like says I rent a house for 2 months and they kick me out of it for 3 days for swearing. (Fuck you baldy, I fucked your wife and I'm fucking keeping this house, *click click)
Author Regular Topic: Free fodd At BK

PanchoThePyro posted 07-12-2005 20:44

Well recentely i got caught stealing from My job at Burger King. My boss told me not to do it again and i just decided to stop cause i like having money. So then I though why don't I share my knowlege about how to get free/cheap shit from BK.First of all of the employes fit into the following things they dont give a fuck(like me), they dont speak any english or there really stupid(a lot of people at my work are like this thier my friend but there so damm stupid). The only one you have to worry about is the main manager or owner and thier little bitches that got me in trouble. Well first off you all know that you can ask for a cup of water and get soda. Also if your in the drive through go around put fri or sandwhich in the glove compartmant go around and say they forgot it. find reciets around and go tell them you didnt get your fries. Start talking to then when they give you change and they might fuck it up. then tell them you ggave them a bigger bill and you got shorted if they dont belive you they wont do shit or do anyting just act all pissed and storm out. Order a medium then tell them you ordered a large rather than argueing thell just fix it (the less time they spend serving custamors the more time they get to to be lazy motherfuckers).bring your own cup and just fill it up with soda no one gives a fuck. get out of your car and pick up all the losse chage dropped in the drivethrough. Order a soda and then tell them you ordered an icee they might make you pay but mostlikely thell just do it. Well thats about it if you have and more questions about the BK ask. and dont flame me im generely trying to start better threads rather then some stupid ones ive written before diet n00b
Regular posted 07-12-2005 20:52

theres a BK about 1 mile from my house and I eat there at least three times a week.. I have a high metabolism but I spend like 5 bucks everytimekinda sucks when you add it all up. thanks for the tips

Fraudulent
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posted 07-13-2005 08:56

Lets say, i walk up to my BK, say i ordered a double without pickels and i received pickels, but i ordered it to go, so when i got home to eat it i got sick for a few hours and missed dinner with my parents and that i would like a replacement. Would they bitch to much?
Author Topic: short change posted 07-07-2005 03:15

conjuror
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i rented a paddle boat at a state park with my brother and friend so of course we paid in cash. i could tell right away that the young guy running the dock in charge of the money and deposits was a shady motherfucker (sure, it takes one to know) we brought back the boat in time (half hour) it cost $3 to rent for the half hour, but you had to make a $25 deposit. when you bring it back on time and in one piece with the life jackets you get $22 back. Anyway, the guy only gave me $19 (ten, five, 4 singles). i counted and knew i'd been shorted $3. he was taking care of another customer as i waited behind them and as soon as he saw me he said "here you go" and took back the $19 and gave me $22 he had all ready for me (a twenty and 2 singles) he had a nice little thing going. he deals with a steady string of customers but doesnt get overwhelmed, and he always works with cash. i work a register, but so many people pay with credit there's no point in running a short change scam. he takes $3 out of each peron's refund which is enough to substantially improve his income and not enough to make most people cause a fuss. most people just shove the cash in their pocket without counting. if you do come back, he takes care of you right away and doesn't give you any trouble. i can't say for sure, but i bet he does this almost every time and has well over a 50% success rate.

The Mad Bomber
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posted 07-12-2005 06:54

My brother runs a convience store... he does that all the time... conjuror
Regular quote: posted 07-13-2005 23:55

Originally posted by The Mad Bomber: My brother runs a convience store... he does that all the time...

Any idea on the success rate and how much he takes in? vonelab
Regular posted 07-14-2005 00:07

I went to McDonalds once and the chick (shady looking as well) shorted me 50 cents... I've noticed signs through the drive thru window in the place that say "Lunch goal, 300 people" and so forth... so if this chick shorts say half the people at lunch, shes makin 75 bucks... and thats damn well more than 12 hours worth of work. 50 cents is good, most ppl either wont notice or dont care. The Mad Bomber
Regular quote: posted 07-14-2005 04:08

Originally posted by conjuror: Any idea on the success rate and how much he takes in?

I called him. he says he takes in about $1500 extra each month. (he owns the place so he works the counter almost all the time) but it's nice because it's tax free and so many people don't count. his success rate is about 90% but he's been doing it for a while so he knows which groups to avoid. Good Targets: Hurried People Little Kids (not the poor ones though)

Bad Targets: Poor People, and Elderly (they count their money).
Author Topic: Ebay scam posted 07-10-2005 13:35

philthemn
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I read the ebay scam on irresponsible activities (http://www.totse.com/en/ bad_ideas/irresponsible_activities/ebayscams168802.html) and thought I might try it out. But I just wanted to check if this would really work and if it would be breaking any ebay rules. Also, in creating a second account is it safe to use a credit card registered to the same address as my original account and do they check if the card matches the address? blink
Regular posted 07-10-2005 15:30

Not only is it against eBay rules, it is against the law. This being said, it is completely possible to get away with it once (or more if there is substantial time between instances). Make sure you are not using the same computer for the two bids. Have a good friend in another area of the country help, or get a reliable IP spoofer to appear from somewhere else. Most of the time the good stuff is protected from this by reserve prices, though. The seller is not obligated to send the product, either, so he/she probably won't. philthemn
Regular posted 07-10-2005 21:36

what is the offense, fraud? I think the beauty of the scam is that its not obvious that you have been scammed. Also if someone refuses to sell, you can take the moral high ground from ebays point of view. I might try this with a korg triton, cus they usually start cheap and with no reserve, I might also wait for it to reach a reasonable pirce so that A)it looks less suspicious and B)the seller will be more inclined to sell.

philthemn
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posted 07-12-2005 17:46

well, it turns out it was definatly worthy of being put in bad ideas. A minute before the auction closes my friend (retracting the bid for me) realised u can only retract 12hrs from the end. so now i am supposed to pay £800. I have emailed her saying i have recieve bills since bidding and cannot afford the price. I'm quite worried since i am only 15 and my parents may just kill me if they find out.

diffview4290
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posted 07-12-2005 18:55

i got an Idea. we can bost up each others auctions and then sell as a second chance offer the the other guy. and we could leave good feedback for each other as well. like the idea? diffview4290
Regular posted 07-12-2005 18:58

i got an idea. we could boost up the price of each others auction and then sell as a second chance offer to the next higher bidder. it will be like starting a bidding war, and either way we will win. and we could leave good feedback for each other too. like the idea? diffview4290
Regular posted 07-12-2005 18:59

i got an idea. we could boost up the price of each others auction and then sell as a second chance offer to the next higher bidder. it will be like starting a bidding war, and either way we will win. and we could leave good feedback for each other too. like the idea? jay666
Regular posted 07-12-2005 19:00

ha ha! owned!

diffview4290
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posted 07-12-2005 19:01

i got an idea. we could boost up the price of each others auction and then sell as a second chance offer to the next higher bidder. it will be like starting a bidding war, and either way we will win. and we could leave good feedback for each other too. like the idea? jay666
Regular quote: posted 07-12-2005 19:11

Originally posted by diffview4290: i got an idea. we could boost up the price of each others auction and then sell as a second chance offer to the next higher bidder. it will be like starting a bidding war, and either way we will win. and we could leave good feedback for each other too. like the idea?

It's known as 'shill bidding', except just use two usernames yourself, it is easier. P.S. Don't leave feedback because if you do you are more likely to get caught.

diffview4290
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posted 07-12-2005 19:22

sorry i posted so much i thing totse just pwned my ass . ok back to the topic. i don't want to make to acount cause it is not ligit (sp) I would preferrb having a person help me then give 20% to the helper anyone up for it? hypothetically - fuck that word i'm a real person behind the screen! [This message has been edited by diffview4290 (edited 07-12-2005).] philthemn
Regular posted 07-12-2005 20:18

im not quite sure I follow you, but i would b willing to do it if it works, please write further details.

diffview4290
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posted 07-12-2005 22:55

1)ok I i'm going to auction a ps2 game called "need for speed underground 2" the action will start this saturday 9.00 pm. (price .99) 2)by the time next friday comes aroung i should have 2-5 bids. (around $8 price) 3)saturday night, 15 min before action ending it will be like ($15 price)but the highest bidder typed $25, and ebay bids for him ($15). starting from his lowest price to ($25 his highest price) this is where you come in and bid $18 is you are still not the higher bidder you bid 19,20,21,22,23,24,25,26. 4) ok so now you know the other bider had set the highest price to $25. 5) in the last 5 minutes you keep checking if you have been out bid. say some other bidder just bid 26. so you bid 27. then the war biggens and keep bidding .75 cents higher and higher with the other bidder. the auction will end and you bid 30 but the guy. you are the highest bidder and winner. I press the second chance offer buton and ask the other guy to buy the game for 29 dollars (or his last highest bid) if the game sells for around 30 I' give you 4-5 dallars for ten minutes of bidding. with pay-pal or check or whatever method you like. easy money. and if you are selling some thing I can help you as well. or let me rent your account for 1 dallar for fifteen minutes before the action ends and I'll email you back with the account. but I don't think you like that because you will not trust me. by the way i'm honest so don't screw me and I wont screw you. email me at [email protected] regionalkingpin
Regular posted 07-13-2005 01:43

Don't trust ANYBODY on Totse under any circumstances. diffview4290
Regular posted 07-13-2005 08:17

i was talking to my best friend and i think he might sigh up but he doesn't ahave a c card.
Author Topic: Official Car Shopping Thread

I Have No Life
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posted 07-01-2005 02:03

Well nice to see you come into my thread. My first question is hmmm what would be the best way to get into a car that is locked without a slim jim? acid_drop
Regular posted 07-01-2005 02:16

Easy? Bust a window... that doesn't take much thought or brains. Smash and grab. I Have No Life
Regular posted 07-01-2005 02:50

i was thinking more along the lines of being kinda silent but anyways don't be timid people post some questions Fraudulent
Regular posted 07-01-2005 03:31

put laminated book covers over the window, and hit it gently, so the glass doesnt fall too much and will stick the the laminated material I read this somewhere else on totse ark_gamer
Regular posted 07-01-2005 06:05

How do you tell if it has a car alarm? And what do those "theaft deterant" stickers mean? DeadlyAssassin
Regular posted 07-01-2005 06:29

Get a window hammer (fire dept equipment) and hit it gently. It will spider crack and then just push in softly and it will fall in...Shouldnt be too much sound

ResdogMrwhite
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posted 07-01-2005 07:05

I was lucky enough to find a kid who knew locks, his dad taught him all about them (retired locksmith or something) even had like three pick sets. I wouldn't recommend looking for a lock specialist, I ran into alot of poser idiots and big talkers, you want easy ulsers try and find a real genuine kid who wont rat you out and knows locks... otherwise back to the question, smash and grab. This raises awareness so only go for cars where you can see good shit. about alarms, audi's have 'em on the lock on the door, beeping red, others on the dash ( most are actually radio lights beeping to scare you off) just shine a flashlight in... otherwise if I just wanted a long night with fair results go for strictly unlocked cars... you'd be suprised. ResdogMrwhite We own the night loner4life
Regular posted 07-01-2005 07:12

anyone here during ops going into cars left unlocked ever find anything valuable? or are most cars with the high dollar stuff sitting right on the seat etc locked and alarmed? how many people leave their side garage door unlocked? not the big door the cars go in and out but the side door you walk in and out of. never been opping before but what swim read here so far and seen in local police reports sounds fascinating and more profitable than shoplifting any day. whats more profitable peeps, shoplift or opping at night? whats more risky, shoplifting or car hopping/garage shopping? echoman64
Regular posted 07-01-2005 07:13

fucking amatures. the best was to shatter a car window is by using the porsilin(SP) part of a spark plug. just smash it up into little peices the size of a pea or a little larger. throw at window and it shatters. try to aim close to the unlock buttons or close to the inside door handle. poke a hole the size of your arm with your finger. open the door gently. a nail punch can also be used and with the same resaults. if the window is cracked open you can pull it and it will shatter or push it in. a screwdriver in the weather strip. as shown here http://www.geocities. com/echoman64/break1.bmp if you dont want to break the window get a 4 foot long rod and bend about 3 inches at the end about 90 degrees. also make a wooden wedge about 6 inches long and 2 inches tall. stick the wedge between the door and top of the car. stick you rod in it and push the unlock button or grab the door handle. or like in blazers and jimmys they have a botton to open the back window. you can tell if cars have alarms if they have a blinking light in it on the dash or by the stereo. mine is by the drivers by the dim light switch.

some are fake but dont take the change. some dont even have a light and they have alarms. some just have circuit breaker switchs meaning if the lights turn on the car alarm goes off. to beat this break the window and go threw it. dont open the door. if they have that and shock sensers break the window and calmly clim in. dont make lots of "shock" when inside. meaning dont jump in and rip the stereo out with a hammer. to take out the stereo you can use a screwdriver or a chizzle.

Fayt
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posted 07-01-2005 08:17

This has to have been the 100h time I've posted my guide, o well. Making this to stop all the "How do you get into car" and "how do I take x out of a car?" threads. by: Fayt aka Ivoryblade Getting into a car There are many ways to get into a car. First, check to see if any lights are blinking on the door(s), dash, or near the front windshield. Don't bother if the car is alarmed, unless there is something in view that you can take easily (laptop, PDA, Radar, GPS). Car stereos are NOT put in there, because some can take a while to pry out, especially if put in by a pro. If there is a light on the center console on the radio, or built in GPS, that is an anti-theft system for the radio, not the car. But, think about this. If it came with GPS, it probably has an alarm also. Decide if there is anything worth taking, and then either break the window or leave it alone. The easiest way to get into a car is to open the door. A lot of people leave their doors unlocked, and you just go in, take what you need and then close it. When closing, lift the door handle, push it in as far as you can, drop the handle. It should catch on the lock, but not close all the way. Then, just use your hip to hit the door and it will push the door onto the lock and close. If the car lights go on when you open the door, just either slide the switch near the light until its off, break the middle light with a screw driver or something else, or just get into the car and close the door. Most older cars I can slide the light off, if not I just get into the car. I search thoroughly inside. That'll come up later though. Another way to get in, is to make yourself an entrance. This includes either breaking the window, removing the rear quarter window, or breaking the sunroof. When breaking a window, follow this for near complete silence. [URL=http: //img.phot obucket.co m/albums/v 228/ Ivoryb lade/step1 .jpg]http: //img.phot obucket.com/albums/v228/ Ivoryblade/step1.jpg[/URL] [URL=http: //img.phot obucket.co m/albums/v 228/Ivoryb lade/step2 . jpg]http: //img.phot obucket.com/albums/v228/Ivoryblade/step2.jpg[/ URL] [URL=http: //img.phot obucket.co m/albums/v 228/Ivoryb lade/step3 . jpg]http: //img.phot obucket.com/albums/v228/Ivoryblade/step3.jpg[/ URL]

Put the newspaper up to the window, then duct tape the edges to it, and break through the center hole. All the glass will fall against the paper, then just push it into the car. No sound or very little from the glass hitting each other inside the car, but will be muffled by all the windows, and the newspaper. Then just rip the paper off, go in, and enjoy w/e you need. ALWAYS GO IN RACE CAR STYLE, NEVER OPEN THE DOOR! If the car was locked, it still might be alarmed. Some stock alarms ONLY go off if the door is opened while armed. My car is like this (1997 Saturn SL2) and I imagine others are. There is also NO lights or anti-theft measures on the car... nothing blinks inside. You can push on my car all you want, it ONLY goes off if the door is opened. Just a word of precaution. Sunroof's you can just easy punch and it'll all fall into the car, then go in. To remove the rear quarter window, use a screwdriver and pop off the weather striping above the window. Then, unscrew the metal bar from the car. Pull those off and either throw them away onto the lawn, or just set them down. Then, take your screw driver and shove it through the black tar, and pry the window off. You can then use your arm, or a coat hanger to push/pull the lock up/over and enter the car. The alarm might go off if its silent, if it does, just get in, take what you need, then get out. Removing car stereos Equipment : Gloves, Flathead screwdriver, strength, maybe a phillips screwdriver. Ok, you found a car with a nice cd-deck in it. This includes Pioneer, Alpine, Aiwa, Kenwood or Sony. Do not bother with JVC, Durex, Dual, Jensen, or any other brand. If it has a high ##Wattsx4 then its a good deck. Anything 45Wx4 and up is good. You want to take it. How do you go about this? Here ya go. Grab both ends and pull on it. A LOT will just come right out. Look for tabs on the side that can be pushed in and then pull it out. If it still doesn't come out, take your flathead and start prying it out. Start with one side and shove it down the whole side of the deck and pry it so the screwdriver goes away/handle goes towards (in) the cd deck. Do this with all the sides. Most of the time, you can just break the plastic on the anti-theft guard or dash kit, then slide it out. If it still doesn't come out, pull the whole center console out. Pry the dash covering up and either break it off or just bend it out of the way. If it is sliding out, but not all the way, first yank on it real hard. That'll rip some wires or untangle them. If it makes a loud noise when you pull it out, look behind it for a metal strip going to the stereo. If the metal strip is there, I suggest leaving it unless you have a small pair of bolt cutters on you to put in there and cut the strip. Ok, so you have the cd player out, but what do you do with all these wires? Look for a white box, or just any box that the wires go into and come out of. Unclipping this is the easiest way to go about it. This is the wire harness that differs from all cars. Unplug all the male/female connecter parts (RCA jacks out) and the stereo cord (thick black cord usually on the end of the cd deck). MAKE SURE that you just unplug the RCA jacks (male/female cords). These provide the sound to amps and are needed for selling the deck. If the wires aren't getting unconnected

from the white box, just either pull them out, or cut them. ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS CUT RED, ORANGE, AND YELLOW BEFORE BLACK. If you don't cut those first, the power still going into the cd player could be shorted out. Black is ground, and has to be the LAST one cut. Cut those three at the same time, then cut the rest all together. It'll prevent shock damage to the cd player. What will I take from the car and/or where do I look? Once your inside look in the center console, arm rest (if its an opening one), glovebox, rear seats, sunblockers, and trunk. Most people keep change in the center console, wallets in the glovebox, and most valuable things in the trunk. Looking for: Laptops, PDAs, Palm Pilots, Clothes, Money, Wallets, Purses, Stereos, GPS systems, Amps, Subs, Radars, Personal info (CC, Checking, Bank stubs) and anything else of value. This list could vary person to person, depending on what they will want to take from the car. If the keys are in the ignition, either lock them in the car or joy ride the car. Don't do it TOO bad because you don't want to a)wreck it/crash into someone.. its stolen and you could hurt yourself very bad, b)get a cop to notice you. Remember to put your seatbelt on and headlights on. Speed when no one is around or just run it off a cliff. If you want to steal it, you have to think of your own way, because I will not help you there. Find your own chop shops and revinning techniques :-P Risk vs Reward places There are three different risk vs reward levels of location of cars. The first one is alleys. Alleys have the fewest amount of cars, but also it's the safest, seeing as one would have have by far the lowest chance to get seen in an alley. The middle level of risk is main streets. There is usually a fairly high number of cars parked, but the chance of getting seen is significantly higher. The very highest risk, is apartment building parking lots. Here, cars are packed in. However the problem is that it's the equivalent of sixty or however many houses stacked on top of each other, so one's chance of being seen or heard rises greatly. Another thing I would add is that a flashlight is the most important tool. It's nice to look into cars before opening or breaking the window. You mentioned it briefly, but pop the trunk to check for valuables that people store in the trunk. Look out for laptops in cases that are black and leather or fold over. Anyways, if you feel this article needs more, feel free to email me @ [email protected] Enjoy! :-D This whole above statement is used for information purposes only. The author will not be held responsible in any way, shape, or form if you are caught. Stealing from cars IS illegal. It is the readers responsibility for their own actions.

echoman64
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posted 07-01-2005 09:17

no i think it was about 20 times. StayWithJimmy
Regular posted 07-01-2005 22:19

good guide squeegee
Regular quote: posted 07-02-2005 01:45

Originally posted by ark_gamer: How do you tell if it has a car alarm? And what do those "theaft deterant" stickers mean?

Most of the time the blinking lights mean that there is a passive alarm, meaning that if it is broken into, the car just will not start. If you see a blinking light on top of the dash or its easily reconizable as aftermarket, I wouldn't recommend touching it. bluefox
Regular posted 07-02-2005 05:42

I figure tuesday or wednesday nights at 2-4am would be the best time for car shopping. Time wise, 2-4am is when the least amount of people are up in a neighborhood. Day wise, thursday-sunday are party-ish nights, when it is most likely someone could be up and see you (which would still be fucking rare). Monday, Teusday, or Wednesday are nights where hardly anyone would be up at such ungodly hours. QUESTION- what do you do if a alarm goes off? In my senario me and a friend are thinking up, we would park our car somewhere and walk around a neighborhood looking for unlocked cars on the street. When a car is found, one person is lookout who looks out for other cars, signs of life nearbye, or other threats. But say you open a car door and it has one of those fucking secret sensor things that fucking start bleeping and buzzing loudly? Do you run your ass off down the street? Do you cut through houses in an attempt to get the fuck out of there? I guess I just worry about an alarm going off, within 30 seconds the owner calls the cops, and suddenly a friend and myself are on the run from the popos.

Amateur_pharmacist posted 07-02-2005 07:27
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Alarm check: Find a target car. Drive up, look for lights. If there aren't any little flashing lights, give the car a good rocking. If alarm doesn't go off... good, if it does... drive off. If you get stopped or yelled at just say you stopped because you're friend was sick and he accidentally leaned on the car. It’s worked for SWIM.

echoman64
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posted 07-02-2005 20:13

to check for alarms if you got a truck with loud pipes slam the gas. lots of fuckers do that down here. my shit always goes off like that if not buy loud bass. deadkennedy
Regular posted 07-02-2005 21:24

I would post my guide for this, but considering im on probation for this right now im not going to. Just to let you know if it hasn't already been said 98% of car alarms will not go off by smashing the window. deadkennedy
Regular posted 07-02-2005 21:27

one more thing to add.... what i did to get on probation and what happened to me... first off im 16, we did this with 3 people we stole a car out of someones garage, keys were in the garage drove it around and wrecked it purposly into someone elses, we all got off with a consent decree, origionally we were charged with gta and burglary, the people were nice and dropped gta but not burglary but the courts decided to let us off with a bunch of misdemeanors 3k restitution 6months probation and 20 hrs community service by the way, we only got caught because someone in our group ratted us out cause she was scared... all they had was hearsay from people who can't keep their mouth shut [This message has been edited by deadkennedy (edited 07-02-2005).]

loner4life
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posted 07-03-2005 01:21

nobody on this thread has yet mentioned car shopping in parking garages or the like, you know like the big parking garages at big malls etc where you take a parking ticket and the gate goes up to let you in and you pay to get back out? swim went there during the day and saw so much awesome shit just laying out, no cameras around but was scared cuz they never went car shopping before and it was daytime. what kind of stuff do people usually leave in trunks? if you break window to get in, alarm will not go off unless you open door, whatabout if you open the trunk will it go off then? lordkiller
Regular posted 07-03-2005 04:25

well if you get a laptap and you hook it up to the net, wont they be able to find the ip and get you....... .......... .......... .......... .......... .......... .......... .......... ............. or is it your ISP that gives you a diff IP? the_mail_man
Regular quote: posted 07-03-2005 07:06

Originally posted by loner4life: nobody on this thread has yet mentioned car shopping in parking garages or the like, you know like the big parking garages at big malls etc where you take a parking ticket and the gate goes up to let you in and you pay to get back out? swim went there during the day and saw so much awesome shit just laying out, no cameras around but was scared cuz they never went car shopping before and it was daytime. what kind of stuff do people usually leave in trunks? if you break window to get in, alarm will not go off unless you open door, whatabout if you open the trunk will it go off then?

cameras.

ark_gamer
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posted 07-03-2005 07:10

I have noticed cameras in parking garages, too. If there are none where you are, go for it, but I stay away from parking lots and the like. acid_drop
Regular posted 07-03-2005 07:21

Just for the guy who mentioned the people calling the cops when the alarm goes off... My F-150 has one installed.. But it WILL go off if you shatter the window. And no it's not OEM. BUT! I will not call the cops if it goes off, cause they just go off a lot for no reason. I leave it locked all the time in the drive when I'm working int he garage. My neighbor likes to have fun and jerk on the handle so the alarm goes off, and then say "Man, did you see that shit, one of those mexicans tried to gank your truck." I then slaped him with a lawn mower blade... Shoulda used the sharp end. Anyways, the owner will NOT call the cops on you untill they see you fucking around... Otherwise the poliece would be pissed off because alarms go off alot from noise/vibrations/if it wants to. They are stupid. ark_gamer
Regular posted 07-03-2005 07:40

Lawn mower blade? *takes note* ResdogMrwhite
Regular posted 07-03-2005 22:39

It really depends on your area of operation I guess, SWIM lives in a really suburban upper-class area, SWIM has Kevin Garnett living about a block or two away, with few other notables... but SWIM has made plenty of $$$ just off of unlocked cars, all the shit in them, Ipods, purses, CD players, wallets, watches, jewelry... all in unlocked cars, no effort but opening it and cleaning it out. P.S. Will "finders-keepers-losers-weepers" hold up in court??? ResdogMrwhite "we own the night"

shrek45
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posted 07-05-2005 22:08

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Originally posted by ResdogMrwhite: It really depends on your area of operation I guess, SWIM lives in a really suburban upper-class area, SWIM has Kevin Garnett living about a block or two away, with few other notables... but SWIM has made plenty of $$$ just off of unlocked cars, all the shit in them, Ipods, purses, CD players, wallets, watches, jewelry... all in unlocked cars, no effort but opening it and cleaning it out. P.S. Will "finders-keepers-losers-weepers" hold up in court??? ResdogMrwhite "we own the night"

SWIY (someone who isnt you) lives right near SWIM. SWIM lives in Minnesota also. SWIM hasd a few questions on his first car shopping quest that he has planned for tonight. 1st - Should SWIM wear gloves (i know they are recommended, but what is the liklyness of them figner printing the car? 2nd - what should i wear? SWIM planned on wearing a black hoody with red letters, and to be able to be hidden, but not be to suspicious if i have to act normal. 3rd - DO you guys recommend hitting cars IN driveways? thanks for the help

Leadster pr0 CS player
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posted 07-06-2005 00:04

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Originally posted by shrek45: SWIY (someone who isnt you) lives right near SWIM. SWIM lives in Minnesota also. SWIM hasd a few questions on his first car shopping quest that he has planned for tonight. 1st - Should SWIM wear gloves (i know they are recommended, but what is the liklyness of them figner printing the car? 2nd - what should i wear? SWIM planned on wearing a black hoody with red letters, and to be able to be hidden, but not be to suspicious if i have to act normal. 3rd - DO you guys recommend hitting cars IN driveways? thanks for the help

1# ALWAYS were gloves when car hopping. Just a normal, thick black pair will do the job. I find leather to be the best. #2 A black hoody is fine, but I recommend you dont have any logos, writing etc on it. Just it case you do get seen, the more logos etc on it, the more easier it will be to reconize you. Also for pants make sure their aswell dark black or dark blue, and no logos, writing on them. Also its best to have deep pockets in them. And shoes same, black or dark colour with no tred for the soles. #3 For driveways it depends on a few things. If the car is parked next to the door, back or front forget it. Its to much of a risk for the owner to come out and catch you which that would be easy seeing as he would be very close to you and, well, hurt you badly. Also if the car is parked on stones, gravel etc, forget it. Stepping on

loose stones and gravel makes way to much noise. Plus its easy to hear and reconize where its coming from. If you see a spot light above the driveway, and leave it. If you see a dog's cage or anything related to a dog, forget it. Also if you see a car you want to hit but the lights are on in the house, leave it. Also if their is no blinds or curtains, forget it because its to easy to get seen. But apart from that it should be ok to try and open the door, but NOT smash it, that would be so stupid. #5 Go out at the time of from 1am to 4am. Thats the best time for car shopping. But seeing as its summer now, as soon as it starts to get light, go home. #6 When out, try and be quite as possible. Every chance you get try and walk on grass instead of pavment because of the noise being reduced alot by grass. But dont be stupid when doing this, I dont mean go out of your way to walk on grass, use you're brain. #7 For me this is 1 of the most important things ive ever learnt from doing this. When walking, observe everything around you. When walking dont just look down, look as far as your eyes can see. Because as soon as you see people or danger etc, the more chance of you getting away quicker. I know it sounds stupid but its something I wanted to share. 8# If you ever get seen by someone and they shout or have a worried look on their face, run as fast as you can away from there. And if it comes to it, jump and hide in someones garden for awhile and stay there until its clear. But try and get away from where you was first than just hiding in the next garden. Can post more but cba, laters.

foulmatter2
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posted 07-06-2005 02:44

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Originally posted by Leadster pr0 CS player:

#3 For driveways it depends on a few things. If the car is parked next to the door, back or front forget it. Its to much of a risk for the owner to come out and catch you which that would be easy seeing as he would be very close to you and, well, hurt you badly. Also if the car is parked on stones, gravel etc, forget it. Stepping on loose stones and gravel makes way to much noise. Plus its easy to hear and reconize where its coming from. If you see a spot light above the driveway, and leave it. If you see a dog's cage or anything related to a dog, forget it. Also if you see a car you want to hit but the lights are on in the house, leave it. Also if their is no blinds or curtains, forget it because its to easy to get seen. But apart from that it should be ok to try and open the door, but NOT smash it, that would be so stupid.

That limits just about everything doesn't it? Oh yeah, what happened to #4? dontfeelbad
Regular posted 07-13-2005 01:39

Iplan to go out tonite... Cigs are expenisive...

BigBird
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posted 07-13-2005 02:06

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Originally posted by dontfeelbad: Iplan to go out tonite... Cigs are expenisive...

Me too. Drugs are too expensive diet n00b
Regular quote: posted 07-13-2005 02:49

Originally posted by BigBird: Me too. Drugs are too expensive

HA good luck Pshycho Fraud
Regular posted 07-13-2005 03:21

A friend of mine has seen a couple cell phones and comp while car shopping but he has always left them be. The reason is he is not sure about the tracing. He is sure that they can trace both, right? With the cell phones if you take out that little chip/card in the back will it be all right? What about the l.t? He Also doesn’t know what he would do if he did take a l.t. He couldn’t use it. His parents would prob be fairly suspicious if he suddenly had a new, and nice at that, l.t. And He cant sell it. He doesn’t have any connections and hasn’t the slightest clue who to sell it to. Anyway it would be great to get some feed back very soon especially regarding the cell phones. This kid I know says that he will prob go out tonight and knows that he is bound to come across some cell phones. Tootles, Pshycho Fraud ( All of writings above are false and not true. It is just the imagination of a confused adolescent. None of the above means or attempts to imply that anything of this nature has occurred in the past or will happen in

the future )

Fayt
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posted 07-13-2005 06:20

Cell phones, honestly, are pointless. Not that many people leave NICE cell phones in their car. Mine is retailed at $150, and I use it as my alarm clock. I'm sure the majority leave them inside, and maybe have their $20 kyocera POS in their car for a clock or something. Laptops are easy. If it is obviously for home/small business, good chance a normal format will wipe any 'tracking' it has, if any. Most laptops with tracking are ones for like, schools, big businesses, etc. Places that get high end laptops and allow lots of people to use them. That way if one happens to disappear, they just search for it. Contact me @ [email protected] if you want help selling laptops, I have lots of connections for electronics.
Author Topic: Free McDonalds

codo3500
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posted 07-11-2005 04:51

Hey guys, im a long time scammer, and in my time have come up with some brilliant scams, but, i dont have the time to post them all, either that or i cant be bothered, but here we go with one of my favourites..... -----------------------------------How to do it: Drive through maccas drive-thru, but before going to the ordering window, make sure there is a car behind you. If need be, stop and wait for a car to come behind you. Then proceed to the ordering window, and ask for "a free cup of water", they will ask you to just go on to the next window and you will receive it. Take your time getting to the next window, and make sure that the car behind you has completed their order and has payed BEFORE you arrive at the window that you will receive your order at. You will be handed a bunch of food, now take off...... -------------------------------How it works: At McDonalds, when you order a cup of water, they dont actually have a button for a free cup of water. This means, that when you go past the order window, you will be in position for order #1 on their list, which will infact be the order of the person behind you. So the person handing out the orders will

think that the order is yours, and the person behind you will be farked over. -----------------------------------Risks: Well, personally ive only ever been caught once, and ive done it 300+ times. In saying that, it only has about a 60% success rate, because quite often the person handing out the orders will say "and what was your order?". I cannot stress enough that you NEED A BACKUP PLAN, and this goes for every scam. I have had the police show up at my house once, but i used this excuse to get out of it, this is what you tell the officer or whoever: "I got to the ordering window, and i said 'hi mate, remember me, im samanthas cousin, your exgirlfriend, can i please have some free food', to which the guy replied 'just move along' after winking at me, so when he handed me the food i just thought it had been given to me", play on the fact that it was not intentional. This was ofcourse harder for me, having done it so many times. Just dont go overboard, dont go to the same maccas while the same people are still on shift, it will fark you over. Thanks for reading! if you have any questions about this, email me at [email protected], I have only tried this scam in Australia, mainly at McDonalds, it also works at KFC and BurgerKing, but with a lower success rate. A mate also tried this in California and it worked. vonelab
Regular posted 07-11-2005 05:03

This is genius... especially during lunchtime with many cars. I wonder how close of an eye they keep on car counts... amazing. I'll have to try that onefinally something that sounds like it'll work lol Solisious
Regular posted 07-11-2005 05:06

ass this is in bad ideas , why ddi you cut it and paste it into the forum? codo3500
Regular posted 07-11-2005 05:10

Yer it took me a while to come up with this, i have also posted another scam in a thread just a second ago for someone trying to make $100 quickly. I hope i explained it well, and yes it works better at peak hour, because they generally dont count how many cars at all. A good twist to this, if you cant seem to get it to work, is to play the victim of a scam. Have 2 People in the car, one jumps out and walks near you through the drive-thru, and when you are getting handed the order he runs through, grabs the food off you, and runs off. McDonalds will give you the food again, and then you meet up with your mate around the corner. You have effectively got "but 1 get 1 free". Playing the victim also works well with the original idea, where you have a mates car in front of you, and order something that is

predictable like "1 large big mac meal", when the first car is asked what they ordered, they just say "a big mac meal", and get handed the food, you then go up to the window and say "where is my food???" and they will give you the food aswell. Once again, buy 1 get 1 free. codo3500
Regular posted 07-11-2005 05:12

sorry? is this already in here? i didnt read this one on the internet actually, i came up with it while i was working at McDonalds. vonelab
Regular posted 07-11-2005 05:23

Wait... heres a follow through of a big screw up... - DRIVE UP TO ORDER MIC - "I'd like a small water please" - "Please drive to the next window" - You drive slow and wait for the guy behind you to order... - PULL UP TO WINDOW - uh... they hand you your water and not the guys order. BigBird
Regular quote: posted 07-11-2005 05:48

Originally posted by vonelab: Wait... heres a follow through of a big screw up... - DRIVE UP TO ORDER MIC - "I'd like a small water please" - "Please drive to the next window" - You drive slow and wait for the guy behind you to order... - PULL UP TO WINDOW - uh... they hand you your water and not the guys order.

Good point. What do you do at this point?

2_COOL
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posted 07-11-2005 05:53

You take your water and say thanx...?

Optionryder420
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posted 07-11-2005 05:54

This guy is an idiot... FIRST, how can you not afford McDonalds?! Fucking double cheeseburger for a dollar! but, the orders are all on a screen, they have to press a button for the order to be taken off the screen. So, you will in fact get your water. This guy is just an idiot whom is pulling shit out of his ass... an obvious clue is the fact that supposedly the cops came to his hosue to check up on him for trying to steal McDonalds... Oh fucking please. codo3500
Regular posted 07-11-2005 06:03

Yes you just say thanks and take the water in the event of this occurring, but water does not show up on the screen, that is how this works. And the police have wanted me for a few other things, im kinda on their list, so that was most probably why they were so eager to try nail me. And how can i not afford mcdonalds, well quite simply i can, but why would i pay for it when i can get it for free? i mean come on, its $5.75 for a SMALL big-mac meal in australia, its expensive over here lol. Rock
Regular posted 07-11-2005 08:24

This is already in the bad ideas section... Great idea but here water isn't free due to large number of people getting it instead of a soda. Anyway Mc donalds is disgusting. woodchuck_love posted 07-11-2005 08:47
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In the US, there is a law that states a restaurant must offer free tap water as an option. Don't know if that's true anywhere else. Optionryder420
Regular posted 07-11-2005 16:04

It DOES show up on the screen, I worked there for two weeks.

diet n00b
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posted 07-11-2005 18:05

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Originally posted by Optionryder420: It DOES show up on the screen, I worked there for two weeks.

haha- PWNED 0x29A
Regular posted 07-11-2005 18:17

honestly... first of all, unless i was REALLY hungry, i wouldnt eat mcdonalds shit even if it was free.. second, scamming mcdonalds is logging on to the internet and trying to find porn.. its a joke.. mcdonalds makes billions in profits, you think they give a fuck about some peasent punk ripping them off for a couple bucks (thats what it costs consumers, the actual price to mcdonalds could probably be pennies)? of course they cant just hand out free food to every chump, or every mcdonalds would be full of homeless black people (and black people in general)... now then, there are many easy ways to scam mcdonalds 1) eat 3/4 of any food item, then bring it to the front and demand a refund, say it tastes shitty 2) eat your food, then go to the front and say it fell on the ground.. they will give you another of whatever 'fell', its standard mcdonalds policy to replace dropped food.. 3) this one usually works during busy hours.. order your food items.. then leave the premises or drive thru.. remove a food item of your choice, and come back to the store, and tell them they didnt put it in.. now dont do something stupid like order a cheeseburger meal and then say gee you forgot my cheeseburger.. but if you order for several people it works great mcdonalds franchises are routinely audited for their customer satisfaction, so they will pretty much NEVER argue with a customer unless you do something really assinine.. its basically in their best interests to be nice to you, especially with the bad rap mickey d's food is getting lately all that being said, mcdonalds is for absolute peasents.. the food is ridiculously CHEAP (if you can call that food).. if you need to steal from mcdonalds, honestly you are the lowest piece of bottom feeding scum in existance.. even homeless people dont do shit like that, they beg for money like a propper bum

[This message has been edited by 0x29A (edited 07-11-2005).] Morphix
Regular posted 07-12-2005 03:19

If you haven't noticed, McDonalds has cameras all over outside by the windows in which the people that work at the windows monitor. So they know when someone is coming up at the window or not. They are not that fucking stupid...And get a fucking job dude. If you seriously took your time to think of a way to rip off McDonalds, your pathetic. [This message has been edited by Morphix (edited 07-12-2005).] TroyMcClure
Regular posted 07-12-2005 05:06

hey, i'd steal from mcdonalds not because i'm poor. just because i want to see the corporation rot. die mcdonalds. Optionryder420
Regular quote: posted 07-12-2005 16:39

Originally posted by Morphix: If you haven't noticed, McDonalds has cameras all over outside by the windows in which the people that work at the windows monitor. So they know when someone is coming up at the window or not. They are not that fucking stupid...And get a fucking job dude. If you seriously took your time to think of a way to rip off McDonalds, your pathetic.

Very few of them do... And stealing a few cheeseburgers isn't going to bring the corporation down.

codo3500
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posted 07-12-2005 17:20

[QUOTE]Originally posted by 0x29A: [B]now dont do something stupid like order a cheeseburger meal and then say gee you forgot my cheeseburger.. 3 lol, i remember once i ordered a big-mac meal, and they forgot the bigmac.....losers , but hey, thats what ya get when ur getting served by a kid who is yet to hit puberty.
Author Topic: Answer to RFID

Sliced Bread
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posted 07-12-2005 05:58

http://tinyurl.com/93kyb maybe RFIDs arent gonna be so bad after all
Author Topic: a whole new way to shoplift posted 07-08-2005 10:06

BOMBS_AWAY
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OK, every day I go to 2 super markets and the video store, it's my daily routine and I have it down to a science, all the checkers know me and some of us are actually friends, what most of them don't know is that I rip there stores for tons of money, here's how I do it: I go to the video store first, videos usually have magnetic tags which are not taken off on rentals, this will be your excuse should the alarm in the supermarket go off (and it probably will) you can say it's the movies, my next stop is the 1st supermarket I buy what I need and then go to the next. Before I continue I need to say a few things, first, this will only work when your on a bicycle, the bicycle is key to the whole scam. Secondly, it is preferable but not necessary that you be a kid or teenager. OK now that that's over back to the scam, with the bags hanging on your handle bars walk the bike in to the store, go ahead and put stuff in the bags T bone steaks ribs all kinds of stuff then get some candy or some chips or even a soda, take it to the checker, and buy it then just walk out of the store. this has worked for me every time. When the alarm goes off I just say it's the movies and hold up the bag they say OK and let me be on my way Now for a few Items that it's not smart to take: DVDs, games, toys, and electronics of any kind.

I know the whole scam sounds complicated but I've never been caught, and I eat a steak dinner every night because of it. superhornet59
Regular posted 07-08-2005 14:16

thats a good idea, but i dont understand why the bike is such an inportant part of the scam. oh, and sry nobody has replied, I know ur pain. SmartTart
Regular posted 07-08-2005 17:19

Small potatoes, but I kinda see why the bike is needed, to bring in the other store's bag to each store instead of leaving it in the (car)? SmartTart PS: What the hell? You "rent movies" every day and the video store doesnt get suspishous? ark_gamer
Regular posted 07-09-2005 07:06

I can steal anything from my local Marsh. I used to work there, so I know they only have one monitor in the security room that is always trained on the registers, so you can take anything. Shadow Wolf
Regular posted 07-09-2005 07:20

Does ur local marsh carry booze or cigs in the isle? woodchuck_love
Regular posted 07-09-2005 07:24

you must live in a small town. around here they would never allow you to bring a bike in a grocery store. don't get too cocky though, they might catch on someday. 0x29A
Regular posted 07-09-2005 08:10

ive come up with a similliar scheme that works great, but i avoided revealing it because just as many AP's will read this file as potential boosters will. Mine is foolproof though (im not revealing my way because I know many AP's read this stuff), but yours is pretty good too- although I find that stealing from supermarkets is really pathetic and childish. If you want a real thrill steal something big and expensive.. or break into a house and steal from there

Shadow Wolf
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posted 07-09-2005 08:27

My style is in and out quick and silently with out anyone every knowing i was there i prefer the more stealth based methods. I snatched about 150 bucks from this guy at school dumb fucks carry round to much cash. That and stealing shit from school is lame i know but i really dont care that much bout the pay off i just want the rush and i wanna see if i can get away with it i havent been caught yet. whocares123
Regular posted 07-10-2005 04:49

This doesn't make sense. You spend money EVERYDAY on videos and groceries at the video store and the first super market? Then you carry those items into the second store and steal from there? And everyday the alarm goes off and you have the same excuse, that it's the movies from the video store doing it? What the fuck? And like someone else said, no store around here would let you walk a bike all through it. ark_gamer
Regular posted 07-10-2005 04:58

Yes, my marsh has booze and stuff in the isles, but not cigs. whocares123
Regular quote: posted 07-11-2005 17:53

Originally posted by whocares123: This doesn't make sense. You spend money EVERYDAY on videos and groceries at the video store and the first super market? Then you carry those items into the second store and steal from there? And everyday the alarm goes off and you have the same excuse, that it's the movies from the video store doing it? What the fuck? And like someone else said, no store around here would let you walk a bike all through it.

I still want an explanation to this bullshit thread.

loner4life
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posted 07-11-2005 18:13

This post reminds me of that time I grabbed a bike off the rack at wal mart and just started riding it around in the store and real fast too, ha ha it scared the heck out of alot of people for a minute or two until some worker said hey get off that thing you can't ride it in the store, take it outside if you want to test ride it. I got the heck outta there quick and some kids were laughing with thumbs up at me when I walked out it was funny. Someone should ride a pocket bike or motorcycle into wal mart or any store someday, that would be funny, or turn a bunch of wild rabbits or a big dog loose in the store. diet n00b
Regular quote: posted 07-11-2005 18:15

Originally posted by loner4life: Someone should ride a pocket bike or motorcycle into wal mart or any store someday, that would be funny, or turn a bunch of wild rabbits or a big dog loose in the store.

haha I'd pay to see that Orange_Crusader posted 07-11-2005 18:41
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It's a bit sketchy, but it could work... That's and because you have to rent a movie every time (unless you just have empty movie cases, from your house, or just a bag from the movie place). Idiots... the bike is so you have a reason for bringing the bag in with you. Hell, just take along a bike helmet (gay, but suggest you have a bike), not to ride through the store. Duh.. I might try this, it might be a bit hard for larger items (bottles, for example), but good for smaller stuff. Might want to put your jacket or a shirt in the bag too, help conceal any items. Leave the movie cases on top, though.

vatoloco9892
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posted 07-11-2005 20:31

are u in america? bc i know this sounds stupid but its true if u get caught stealing meat its a felony bc it fucks with the fda or some shit Shadow Wolf
Regular quote: posted 07-12-2005 04:51

Originally posted by ark_gamer: Yes, my marsh has booze and stuff in the isles, but not cigs.

Well then theres is something worth jackin. What kind they got? Voka Mikes hard lemonade, jack? Hm what they got? BOMBS_AWAY
Regular posted 07-12-2005 04:54

I thought this thread got deleted for a while becaues I couldn't find it. The bike is essental because you need to bolth have a reason to carry bags in and it helps to carry the heavy bags (it also makes for nice transportation) I have the deal at my video store that you can get as many movies as you want and you pay (I think its 20 bucks) each month, so no, they dont get suspicus. No, i dont live in a small town, I live in the city, however, the stores don't really care that I take my bike in, once in a while somone asks me "shouldn't you leave that outside" and I say "no, I do this all the time" but stores vary as to what they will allow you to do, try it and see what they do, worst that will happen is they will say put it outside. The alarm does not go off every day, but it's frequent, they know me and dont really care, plus they understand about the movies I suppose it could be done without the movies, but if they stop you, youi have no excuse for the alarm going off, generally there is no magnetic tag on food, just on dvds, games, and other crappy electronics that they sell in grocery stores. it's just what I thought up durring my daily routine, it works and works well, but perhaps not as well for some as it is for others

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Topic:

recycle coke cans

lordkiller
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posted 07-11-2005 16:58

ok when I lived in upstate ny, we got .05 per can.. in MD we gt .50 per LB.. so I been thinking of putting rocks in the cans then crushing them down so the rocks dont rattle.. how does it sound? they take them in trashbags I just dont know if they inspect every single can.. which would be to time consuming.. diet n00b
Regular posted 07-11-2005 18:13

hauling 50 lbs of cans and only gettin like 25 bucks? doesnt sound worth the time of putting rocks in each individual car... unique Idea tho lordkiller
Regular posted 07-11-2005 19:18

is it worth putting on my site i just made since i need submissions? or just forget it 0x29A
Regular posted 07-11-2005 19:29

im sure there are better scams out there, but dont stop recycling.. its good for the environment elewton
Regular posted 07-11-2005 20:14

Putting rocks in there will hamper recycling. Steal from those who can afford it. h0ppinlowrider posted 07-11-2005 20:30
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I would not put rocks but they have this stuff in a bottle with a nozzle used to fill cracks in the outside walls of your house. Some of that in the bottom they crushing it would work better, The Mad Bomber
Regular posted 07-11-2005 21:13

make a factory that produces lead cans... that would be bad for the enviroment and make you money.

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Topic:

Idea for PS2 Scam

daisycutter
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posted 07-11-2005 02:25

I've been thinking of buying a PS2 simply because i've been pretty bored lately, and they're cool for when friends are round and to just chill with a few beers. I was browsing ebay earlier looking for cheap ones and noticed that there are quite a few broken ones for sale. My idea is simple and basically involves going to Dixons/Argos etc (the English equivalent of Wal-Mart) and buying a brand new PS2. Then, taking it home and buying a broken PS2 off Ebay (broken ones sell super cheap for obvious reasons). I would then swap the two PS2's and the next day take the broken one back to the store and say "Look, i bought this yesterday and its faulty. I want a refund/new PS2". I'd have a receipt so it would look legit, and the store people might remember me but it seems unlikely to me that they'd suspect anything. Whether i get a refund or another PS2 i'd still make a profit cause i could always sell the PS2 they give me to replace the faulty one. At the moment, i can't see why this wouldn't work and its the sort of thing i could do maybe a couple of times at different stores. Obviously this could be done with consumer electronics other than PS2's, but a PS2 is something i want and theres always loads of broken ones going cheap on Ebay. Has anyone tried this or a similar idea? Do you think it would work and does anyone have any idea of how high the chances of getting caught are? I am aware that they have some sort of serial no. but would the store people actually take the time to check it if i had a receipt? I don't think the idea is a common one so i can't see why they'd have any reason to think "We better check this incase he's replaced it with one off ebay". I'd look like a complete dick if they took it and said "this isn't the same one we sold you". Then again it is a pretty simple idea, so could it be that not many people attempt it because its stupid? I was thinking that i could also do it with games and stuff too. Someone i mentioned it to said the idea won't work because they have barcodes but the barcodes aren't on the actual PS2's/games themselves, just the boxes so i can't see why it wouldn't work. Any thoughts? [This message has been edited by daisycutter (edited 07-11-2005).] KAOZ-SPK
Regular posted 07-11-2005 02:39

worked for me...but that was pc world and was for ms keyboard... ya see i worked for a comp shop and i swaped the display model we had for the k/board i bought and took it bak they just scanned the barcode off the box and refunded me. bet they were pizd to find it dint have the propa k/bord in it. can't see y it wunt work, unless they test it in front ov ya, but why would they??

badwiskey
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posted 07-11-2005 02:55

This isnt a bad idea at all, Swim has done some variations where Swim took his old GFX card and purchased a new one, then Swim bought a 6800 and Swim returned the old card in the 6800 box and got store credit, and then was able to upgrade the rest of his computer. EDIT: Make sure that the store sells both types of PS2's, the original and the slim one, or the one you plan on getting on ebay. [This message has been edited by badwiskey (edited 07-11-2005).] Fraudulent
Regular posted 07-11-2005 11:29

I have a strong piece of advice if your really paranoid. Although im not totally sure, make sure the serial number on the box, matches the serial number on the broken PS2, which is impossible, so try extremely hard to make sure you dont eff up the switch. I personally wouldnt bother. But also make sure you dont by a broken PS2 that has been opened, voids warrenty. [This message has been edited by Fraudulent (edited 07-11-2005).] Florida Snow
Regular posted 07-11-2005 11:38

Ive heard of people buying ps2's, and then gutting them and removing the motherboard, replacing it with some type of computer chip that looks similar, and returning it, only to have to buy a new shell for cheap. Fraudulent
Regular posted 07-11-2005 11:39

thats inefficient. blink
Regular posted 07-11-2005 17:09

Go to MediaPlay (or whatever smaller entertainment retailer is in your area) with a van. Make sure the seats are removed if it is a minivan. Grab a cart and load it up. A bunch of PS2 systems, games, whatever. Now run out of the store, cart and all and have your friend (waiting in the van) help you pick up the whole thing and load it in. At MediaPlay it works great especially if you time it so you are going out the indoor when a customer is coming in. They will probably hold the door for you and the in-door is separated from the out-door so the cashier can't get to you

very easily. The "shock-and-awe" of actually doing this usually results in the cashier standing there with a dumb look on his/her face. Some MediaPlay's could be set-up differently so plan accordingly. Another trick that USED to work, although I don't simply cut off the "spider-wraps" from boxes that Their sensors are set off by the 'inventory control the underside of the actual spider-wrap! This was it's probably different now. 0x29A
Regular posted 07-11-2005 17:36

think it does anymore is to stores like MediaPlay uses. pack' that is simply taped to a few years back, though, so

It works unless they decide to check the serial numbers, which they rarely ever do.. but if they do, you're fucked
Author Topic: Guide: Bypassing Car Locks

scuzzy-elo
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posted 07-11-2005 11:23

For all you car shoppers. Here is a link to the guide with pictures. Bypassing Car Locks Guide by: scuzzy-elo 2003 Introduction If you are not able to purchase your own set of car opening accessories then building your own is the best idea correct? In this guide, I will discuss how to make and use devices to bypass car locks. Materials Metal coat hangers (Or thicker metal wires) Pliers Ruler Wooden block (4 x 2 x 1 in) Thin flexible plastic band A small bit of string Tool Creation

I will now discuss the creation of several different tools. Wedges Take the block of wood and simply cut it diagonally across the side making two long wedges. Wonder Tool Take one coat hanger and bend it out as straight as possible using your pliers but leaving the hook part for a handle. The handle will be 2 ½ in from the top of the bend. Now make a bend about 18 ½ in from the bottom of the handle so that the hanger is in a V shape. Next, bend the end of the hanger about 11 ½ in from the first bend making a crude N shape. Now bend that side so that the very end tip of the coat hanger points inward toward the rest of the hanger. You should have a handle, followed by a long straight end with a bend at the bottom, followed by a slightly shorter long piece with a bend at the top, and followed by a shorter curved piece with a tip pointing inward. Note For better results, widen the second bend just a little bit so that the tip pointing in is about 1 ½ in away from the hanger. Slim Jim Take one coat hanger and bend it out completely straight. Now break off a length of wire 21-22 in with the hook part attached to one end (not included in measurement). Now bend the end without the hook so that it looks like a long L with a short base that slants down. Make the bent end about1 ½ in long. Now bend that length so that it makes an open triangle. It should look something like this only upside down: |\ OPEN TRIANGLE | | | | (_ HANDLE Lock Lift Take the length of plastic strip and cut a length about 40 in long and 1 in wide. Take the whole thing and loop it directly in the middle Now take this loop and bend it in the middle so that the ends meet the top of the first loop. Now hold it in the middle and you should have an 8 shape. Take your little bit of string and tie it so that the plastic stays in this 8 shape. Note Do not bend or flatten the loops. They need to stay wide and open to work properly. Procedures

Now I will explain how to use these tools to open a car door. Wonder Tool The wonder tool is used when the window of the car is up. Take one of your wedges and wedge it between the weather stripping and window of the car making a gap between them. Now, slide the wonder tool in flat against the window and slide it all the way down until the handle is the only thing sticking out. Next, twist the wonder tool toward the interior of the car firmly and pull up. The second bend of the wonder tool should pop up inside the car with the window in between the handle and the second bend. Now, twist the wonder tool so that it is pointing inward with the hook pointing toward the car door. Slide the tool down so that it clasps the interior of the door. Slide it over toward the lock and maneuver it in one of two ways. 1. Catch the hook onto the lock and pull it up. 2. Catch the hook onto the lock and slide it over. Maneuver it until the lock clicks and unlocks. Now remove the wonder tool and open the door. Notes The hardest part is getting the second half of the tool inside the car. For better results, pull the tool all the way up against the bottom of the glass once the second half is inside the car. Slim Jim The slim jim can be used in three ways. Opening a car with the window up, opening the car with a window up and one wedge, or opening the car with the window cracked a little. Procedure 1 Slide the slim jim down between the weather stripping of the car and the window at about a 105 degree angle with the hooked bottom pointing toward the keyhole. Lower it down until only the handle is sticking out and slide it over toward the lock until you hit an obstruction. Keep the slim jim pressed against the obstruction and slide it up until the hook grasps the obstruction. Pull up firmly on it and the door will unlock. Notes I don't think this will work on sliding locks however, there are other ways to open a door with sliding locks. (i.e. the wonder tool) Procedure 2

Take one wedge and wedge it between the car door and the top or side of the car until there is a cap with a hole that you can see into the interior of the car with. Slide the slim jim in and direct it toward the lock button. Maneuver it to either raise the lock button, or slide the lock button over. Notes Depending on where the lock button is, the position of your wedge will vary. Your method will also be different depending on what type of lock you are opening. It should be very easy to figure out when you look at it through the window. Procedure 3 This is one of the easiest methods. Some people leave their windows cracked a little so that their car doesn't get hot. Hold your slim jim firmly in one hand, so as not to drop it inside, and slide your hand into the cracked window. Angle the slim jim toward the lock button and maneuver it with one of the techniques mentioned in procedure 2. Notes If you think your hand will get stuck in the crack, grab onto the edge with both hands and pull down on it a bit. It won't come down much further but just enough for you to get your hand in. Lock Lift This tool is used to open a lock with a button that sticks up next to the window like a golf tee. Take one wedge and wedge it between the door and the side of the car so that there is a hole that you can see into the inside of the car with. The wedge should be about 1 ½ in above the top of the lock button. Slide one loop of the tool through the hole and loop it over the lock button. Pull it tight with one of the strips on one side to that it is tightly around the button. Pull the entire loop tight and raise it up until the lock releases. Pull out the wedge and open the door.
Author Topic: Box Stuffing Variation

scuzzy-elo
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posted 07-11-2005 11:13

I posted this ages ago with no real feedback or other possible variations either so I am posting it again in hopes of various methods. Box stuffing is when you stuff a bunch of wanted items into a larger item's box while in a store. The next step is to purchase the large item yourself or have someone else do it. Remove the items stuffed inside and return the large item. Easy as pie. A variation is to take your wanted items, loaded with rf tags, and stick them inside of a metal toolbox in the hardware and tools aisle. This would block rfs, serve the same purpose as using a large item, and probably be cheaper to buy than a large item. This is good for if you drop your receipt and you can't return ithe item, putting you $10-20.00 in the hole for a toolbox as opposed to $50-70.00 for a lamp/ vacuum.
Author Topic: Stealing from secured places

badwiskey
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posted 07-09-2005 07:26

I dont know if anything similar to this has been posted, its probably not a new method by any means, but here goes: First you need a pal. Make him dress all raggedy and really desperate. Have him go into the store without a cart 5-10 minutes before you do, and have him go thru the aisles with the expensive stuff. He will most likely get a lot of attention from the camera's and AP's especially if he circles around the same area more than once. Once you think he's been in there and got enough attention, go in. Either you can call him as a signal that you are coming in or you can walk near him and tap your foot or something. After that he should take as much stuff as he can carry and go somewhere without camera's, like a grocery aisle or behind some shelves, or in a dressing room. When he goes back into sight make sure he isnt carrying any of the crap. This is your chance, the AP will most likely be all over him. Take what you want and hide it, and signal again when you are done. Have him try to bolt out of the store, and AP will most likely catch him but there will be so much confusion you can get away, and they wouldnt have even seen you because they were watching him. 0x29A
Regular posted 07-09-2005 08:07

Thats just soo bad, even rotteneggs would flame you for writing that crap.

I_Throw_Bricks_At_Windows posted 07-09-2005 09:53
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I don't think I understand. But basically what Im getting, is you send in a suspicous looking decoy to attract the securities attention while you go in, and load up on shit? It seems risky though, because you are still assuming that all the security is watching the decoy. badwiskey
Regular posted 07-09-2005 10:16

It works, I mean if you are security and you see an obviously suspicious person who you think has stolen items on him and he makes a big scene, they will most likely be paying more attention to that than you slipping some games/dvd's/ whatever into your coat. asma123
Regular posted 07-09-2005 10:57

you know there are always cameras watching, and filming everything, and probably behind the camera, there is some fat security guard eating doughnuts while watching you. quasicurus
Regular posted 07-09-2005 23:43

Your assumption is based on the store has only a few security personnels. SatanEatsPoptarts
Regular posted 07-10-2005 02:35

that might work in a place with not alot of security personnel and no alarms on the door.. but most likely what would happen is they would catch both of you and figure out what was going on... Deadmax
Regular posted 07-10-2005 08:14

Do barcodes set off alarms? I am a little new at this.

Source
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posted 07-10-2005 13:40

I work in a supermarket its only a small store with about 20 employees and no security cam's or tags or anything for that matter and your idea would easly work in my store, however you wouldn't need to do this, because the people who rob from us don't hide the fact they're stealing, they just come him grab and run like fuck... Edit: I once saw a guy come in walk through all the staff pick up 2 dvd players yes thats right 2! then just legged it... lol he got away too. funny shit to watch. [This message has been edited by Source (edited 07-102005).]
Author Topic: A very good scam

philthemn
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posted 07-09-2005 18:23

Heres a good idea I was told, i thikn it's off lock stock but i dont no. What you do is advertise somewhere (on ebay or in a newspaper or sumthing, it doenst matter) for something worht about £20-40 (quite a low price), agen it doesnt matter what it is you sell. When someone has bought the item,you tell them that unfortunatly you have closed down and changed into a different company (which just happens to be a very hard pornographic movie company) and ofcourse will be sending a cheque refunding you. When the cheque arrives most ppl will be too embarrassed to cash a cheque from a company with a pornographic name such as 'Gay Hardcore XXX' and you can keep their money completely legally (as far as I know). Happy Days! vonelab
Regular posted 07-09-2005 23:17

Isn't that from a movie? Anyways, I suppose a very small amount, but these days most people simply want the money.

Dandys_Rule_OK posted 07-09-2005 23:21
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Listen to this one then; you open a company called the Arse Tickler's Faggot Fan Club. You take an advert in the back page of some gay mag, advertising the latest in arse-intruding dildos, sell it a bit with, er... I dunno, "does what no other dildo can do until now", latest and greatest in sexual technology. Guaranteed results or money back, all that bollocks. These dills cost twentyfive each; a snip for all the pleasure they are going to give the recipients. They send a cheque to the company name, nothing offensive, er, Bobbie's Bits or something, for twenty-five. You put these in the bank for two weeks and let them clear. Now this is the clever bit. Then you send back the cheques for twenty-five pounds from the real company name, Arse Tickler's Faggot Fan Club, saying sorry, we couldn't get the supply from America, they have sold out. Now you see how many of the people cash those cheques; not a single soul, because who wants his bank manager to know he tickles arses when he is not paying in cheques! Dandy philthemn
Regular posted 07-09-2005 23:25

yeah, thats basically the same thing. crazy motherfucker
Regular posted 07-09-2005 23:29

that is basicaly the same thing but thats what it says in the film exactly,and the film is lock stock and two smoking barrels vonelab
Regular posted 07-09-2005 23:39

That's it! Also check out Snatch for basically the same movie (same Director (Guy Richie/Richtie?)) wow... all the confusion and parenthesis and... The Mad Bomber posted 07-10-2005 01:33
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They'll just deposit it in a machine that's what I do with my affiliate paycheques... The Mad Bomber posted 07-10-2005 01:36
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Instead of registering a whole company with some gay name... just write "Gay Dildo Refund" on the cheques note...
Author Topic: post FAST ways to make quick cash.

bluefox
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posted 07-08-2005 16:32

Ok so everyone sees topics asking for ways to make money, so lets all put in ideas for making fast cash. 1- it might be obvious, but sell useless stuff you dont use anymore. DVDs, game systems, old camcorder, games, etc. Either ebay it or hawk it at school. 2- Change. Go around your house and look for quarters and dimes (nickels and pennies are not worth it reward vs effort wise). Now either goto the bank to get rolls to roll them up, or goto a coinstar and dump them in for 90% of the yield (but waaay faster than rolling). 3- Car shopping. Tuesday-Thursday (least ammt of people out at 3am), walk around dark neighborhoods and look for unlocked cars. Steal stuff from the unlocked ones. Change is great (see #2). you can also find ipods, cell phones, etc. Plus the risk is pretty low. 4- steal stuff and sell it to people who want it at a reduced price. I dont like stealing so I wont elaborate, but if you dont mind the risk this can make you alot of cash. anyway, ill post more, I have to goto WORK. y'know, that thing where you work REALLY hard and get payed a fucking little amount? yeah. ark_gamer
Regular posted 07-09-2005 07:08

Car shopping has been pretty good to me. i scored a CD player, eight bucks from some gy's wallet, a nice maglight, a zippo, and tons of change. I also swiped a boom box from a construction site. There is even a place in my town where I can drop off stuff and have them sell it on ebay, and get money. Life is grand! plus i'm unemployed! badwiskey
Regular posted 07-09-2005 07:33

A tip for car shopping, look for old Cadillac cars, if you're lucky it will belong to a black person and you can score yourself a gun.

Real.PUA
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posted 07-09-2005 08:18

Snoopy sells his body for money. He doesn't get much. brendy
Regular posted 07-09-2005 10:02

its not super fast but scrap metal is good , just find a place that has alot and doesnt miss it much and load up a ute most places dont ask much , just take your rego number cause they have to by law I_Throw_Bricks_At_Windows posted 07-09-2005 15:06
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Sell shit on ebay. I listed a truck door and a tailgate for a 7 day auction. The tailgate sold for $405 plus s/h - about 20 bucks for seller fees and shit the door sold at $200 minus about the same amount thats almost $600 i made in a week just getting rid of useless shit another option is to find a store with low security, and steal things, and sell them to minors, like cigarettes and alcohol. the raghead guy downtown sells cigarettes for 35 cents a piece. thats about $7 a pack that he makes instead of the usual $4 or so. But yer, I bought a pack of 5 black and milds for $2.50, and sold them for $1 a piece. Thats almost $3 i made, which was enough to buy 2 packs. Etc. I made good money doing that until someone ratted me off, and i got in trouble with the school for selling them. Blargh. Fucking bastards.

Lynk
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posted 07-09-2005 17:24

quote:

Originally posted by I_Throw_Bricks_At_Windows: Sell shit on ebay. I listed a truck door and a tailgate for a 7 day auction. The tailgate sold for $405 plus s/h - about 20 bucks for seller fees and shit the door sold at $200 minus about the same amount thats almost $600 i made in a week just getting rid of useless shit another option is to find a store with low security, and steal things, and sell them to minors, like cigarettes and alcohol. the raghead guy downtown sells cigarettes for 35 cents a piece. thats about $7 a pack that he makes instead of the usual $4 or so. But yer, I bought a pack of 5 black and milds for $2.50, and sold them for $1 a piece. Thats almost $3 i made, which was enough to buy 2 packs. Etc. I made good money doing that until someone ratted me off, and i got in trouble with the school for selling them. Blargh. Fucking bastards.

Yo, I'd find that snitch and beat the fuck out of him. Everyone knows the rules when your in a gang or mafia shit. (Same in an average life) You snitch, you pay. (or die...<-do it) Go to a local small business store, at night break in take the goods the munchies, cigarettes, lotto tickets, Cash register (get the money later, and sell the register on ebay), some of the dairy products, icecream, ... take the cameras that are watching. Don't foregt to were a mask. And before you leave grab a cappicino if they have those and if the have a gas station, filler up a gas canister.
Author Topic: Best idea ever to get $200

tibberous
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posted 07-08-2005 20:57

Swim goes to a tech school filled with tech books (ie: books people want). He figures he can make a list of whats in stock, find out which sell for a good amount of money (good = > 25$) and then post them on Amazon. He will post like 20 books but not take any until after they sell. Sound good? Getting the books will just require a bookbag. 8 books = around 200$, should take more than a weeks work. Comments? kapocsi
Regular posted 07-08-2005 21:01

I applaud you for thinking of this but at the same time hate you for not realizing that your parents pay taxes for this. Unless you live in a rich community, don't do it. I doubt you live in a rich community anyway just because of the fact that you need only $200. SmartTart
Regular posted 07-08-2005 21:03

Impressive idea, but just dont get too cocky and like steal the books while the teacher is in the room. Alot of times, good idea's go wrong because the person carrying it out is too full oh himself and the idea... Only thing you might want to watch for is some kind of ID number or something like that than can be traced. It is probabley a long shot if you're selling on Amazon or Ebay or something, but in almost all high schools now, they have ID numbers to figure out which student has who's book (and prevent theft). Just make sure the tech school doesn't have something similar, or if it does, carefully remove the stickers. Good luck! tell me how it goes [email protected] SmartTart VladimirIllyichLenin posted 07-08-2005 21:18
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That's a pretty stupid idea because if your plan doesn't go perfectly your fucked from both sides. 1) you won't get the book 2) you'll be fucked with amazon/ebay for fraud/whatever bullshit they can charge you with for not sending the book (or at best you'll have to send back the money meaning you LOSE money through postla costs).

tibberous
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posted 07-08-2005 21:20

First off, swims parents tax dollars arn't paying for this, his tutition money is! He's going to end up about 30 grand in debt, he think he covered 200 dollars. And yeah, swim is going to remove all stickers. Figure since there going straight to consumers the'll be no trouble. Wonder if he'd do better to get hold of a credit card and set the account up fake. Then after getting 8 good reviews he could rip off a few more people... probably not...
Author Topic: Self check out

Master_ziing
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posted 07-06-2005 07:11

This is a way to pretty easily steal things from grocery stores with those Self check-out lines. Go through the store, shopping like normal, and find everything you want to take. Now choose the self check-out line that is out of any employee's view as much as possible and make sure there isn't anyone in line behind you. Scan the items and bag them. Go to the payment screen and choose "Pay with cash". If you are worried about the cameras, get out some money out and put it in, but don't completely pay the amount due. This will make it look like you payed. I recommend putting in a one doller bill. Whether you put money in or not, chose the "go back" option untill you are back at the starting menu. If you had put money in, it will give your money back. Now, making sure none of the employees are watching you, casually walk out of the store as if you had payed. This method has worked for me in the past, but I wouldn't try doing this with Cd's or Dvd's or anything of those sorts that might set of any alarms.

foulmatter2
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posted 07-06-2005 08:41

I don't see how this would work considering the employees in charge of overseeing the self checkout lines have monitors of their own. Monitors that display what people are scanning and keep track of the amount due. If you cancel your transaction, I would think the associates would be more than curious about what happened to the items that you were attempting to 'purchase'. Havoc737903
Regular posted 07-06-2005 09:15

The things also verify your purchase by weight if that changes anything or helps anyone. I'm sure if you "forgot" to scan something you could get away with it as long as no one was looking and it wasn't that big of an item. Master_ziing
Regular posted 07-07-2005 06:10

I have noticed the employees monitering the check-out lines, but I have done this multiple times and they have never done anything. I guess I was just lucky...
Author Topic: wally world "guide"

dogshit
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posted 07-02-2005 22:45

THIS TEXT WAS WRITTEN FOR ENTERTAINMENT PURPOSES ONLY. I AM NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR THE USE OR MISUSE OF ANY INFORMATION GIVIN. Get a passenger van and tint the windows the same color as the van. Don't forget to remove the seats. This way, if someone calls the cops with a description, the description will be "black cargo van" or similar. After completing your "activities", rip the tint off the windows. Once you have the van ready, go up to wally world and park near the garden center entrance. one person should stay in the van with the rear doors open and the engine running. The other person shuld go into wally world and find a cart. Fill the cart with desired items(blank DVDs, games, printers, movies, shitty watches). Go back to the garden center and procede to leave the store with your cart full of stuff. Load the crap into the van and drive away. Get to a hidden location and un-tint your windows and install your real lisence plates. Stash the loot and wait 3-4 months before selling.

loner4life
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posted 07-03-2005 01:12

wow awesome idea, swim thought of same plan, however could be some holes in plan trying to figure out them and way around em. When walking out the store with the cart, if the alarm goes off and you keep walking or run what if someone comes running out of the store after you and catches up to you before you load cart in the van? smoke screen or pepper spray to keep em at distance so u can get away? once stuff is loaded up and you get the fuck outta there you are set but only other thing is how long before the cops swarm the whole area within a mile radius of the store? would that happen when security calls the cops? or is it not that urgent since no violence or threats are involved just theft? if you do get away make sure to get to the next town asap before the cops in the town you drove off in start pulling over every van in sight or is swim over preparing? bluefox
Regular posted 07-03-2005 01:17

you would be much better doing this at LOWES at night. They leave NICE ASS grills and shit outside, get a group of guys with the car you described to go to the front and start loading up the grills best grills into the van. take the van and drive it to someones garage. spraypaint the thing white (it was black, remember?), untint and put back the real license plates. presto. you now have some killer grills for your backyard and ebay. And grills dont have any real method of tracking, so ebaying them is a sinch. You could honestly do it a month after stealing and sell them for a pretty penny. the_mail_man
Regular quote: posted 07-03-2005 07:13

Originally posted by bluefox: you would be much better doing this at LOWES at night. They leave NICE ASS grills and shit outside, get a group of guys with the car you described to go to the front and start loading up the grills best grills into the van. take the van and drive it to someones garage. spraypaint the thing white (it was black, remember?), untint and put back the real license plates. presto. you now have some killer grills for your backyard and ebay. And grills dont have any real method of tracking, so ebaying them is a sinch. You could honestly do it a month after stealing and sell them for a pretty penny.

dont forget the ride on lawnmowers. ark_gamer
Regular posted 07-03-2005 07:18

The only modifacation I would make is to make a ramp into the van with a plywood board. That way, when the alarm goes off, just shove the cart into the van, hop in, kick the board down, and drive away. By the time the cops show up, you're gone. have at least one person in the van with a paintball gun with pepper spray paintballs to keep guards off your ass. This whole operation shouldn't take more than ten seconds. Chris182
Regular posted 07-03-2005 22:37

What about the camera inside the store...they'll get your face and put it on the news, if its a big enough theift they most likely will(if it gets into 1000$) or am i just stupid and you dont need to worry about the camera in the store getting you? ark_gamer
Regular posted 07-04-2005 06:25

That is indeed a concern. I'd advise pulling this stunt on a place far from where you live. faithbanks
Regular posted 07-06-2005 20:33

That's funny...but the garden exit is the oldest trick in the book. If your friend keeps sitting around at the garden exit waiting for you to come barreling out with some stolen merchandise, then someone is going to call the police. And that part about the shitty watches is funny...Wal-Mart's watches are pathetic. I don't steal watches from Wal-mart, I steal them from either Kohl's or JC Penney.

Syrex05
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posted 07-06-2005 21:01

quote:

Originally posted by bluefox: you would be much better doing this at LOWES at night. They leave NICE ASS grills and shit outside, get a group of guys with the car you described to go to the front and start loading up the grills best grills into the van. take the van and drive it to someones garage. spraypaint the thing white (it was black, remember?), untint and put back the real license plates. presto. you now have some killer grills for your backyard and ebay. And grills dont have any real method of tracking, so ebaying them is a sinch. You could honestly do it a month after stealing and sell them for a pretty penny.

I work at home depot and we do the same thing, except all the grill displays etc etc is locked up by cables but if you could cut it then its yours. On a side note if you want a John Deere tractor for free get a pick up truck with a towing cable and loading ramps and tie a cable around the bottom row of john deeres and drive, once the stack falls over unload a deere fomr the 4th or 5th row up since those arent locked and load it up and drive away ( at least at my store we keep all extra john deeres outside stacked up 5x5) or just steal a forklift they leave thwe keys in it and you can simply back it into your truck
Author Topic: Wallet Scam (Question not instructions)

swed173
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posted 07-05-2005 05:26

Has anyone here every heard of a wallet scam where someonme plants a wallet and waits 'til someone finds it then says they found it? From there the scammer says that each person will put in $X and in that way assuring that he won't just walk away. I don't know the complete details but that is a good chunk of it. crazyassindian posted 07-05-2005 05:30
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some jackass just came out with a book on scams, and that's in it. i think it's called the pidgeon drop or somthing. but the point is i wouldn't try something that obvious cus they book is popluar at my bookstore.

matty4522
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posted 07-05-2005 05:32

Ya its called the Bird drop or something i think swed173
Regular posted 07-05-2005 05:35

Thanks Guys. yeah I heard of it from a friend and was more curious then anything. Good ponit about the book being popular, that would definatly make it hard. BigBird
Regular posted 07-05-2005 06:23

Whats this book called? scene9
Regular posted 07-05-2005 07:49

Sounds interesting... please explain in detail someone... dDIzzIEe
Regular posted 07-05-2005 08:10

http:/ /www.crime s-of-persu asion.com/ Crimes/InP erson/Majo rPerson/pi geon_drop.htm earthbound01
Regular posted 07-05-2005 11:11

The book is called "How to Be a Professional Con Artist" I own it and yes, its called the "pidgeon drop" where he plants the package and has reall money on top and cut paper underneath to make it look like the box is full of money. Then he says to the mark "you know were partners on this" And then... I think... im tired and dont want to look it up... he gets the mark to put in some "good faith" money to show that he can trust the mark.... and then he takes thew good faith money and leaves the mark with the box and exits quickly... There are variations like the one you're talking about... but thats the gist... It would be kinda hard to pull off and there's easier ways to make money... tibberous
Regular posted 07-05-2005 15:50

This was done on Golden Girls. I wouldn't try it just for that reason.

vIsUaLLY aPPealiNG
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posted 07-05-2005 15:55

it sounds like a shit idea. you give the victim too much time to take in your face and they would probably be able to recognise you later. nOObGLitch
Regular posted 07-05-2005 19:36

Great I will shove a pidgeon up his ass when someone will do that to me. scene9
Regular quote: posted 07-05-2005 20:34

Originally posted by tibberous: This was done on Golden Girls. I wouldn't try it just for that reason.

LOL isn't that the show with the three old ladies? LOL... awesome. faithbanks
Regular quote: posted 07-06-2005 20:36

Originally posted by matty4522: Ya its called the Bird drop or something i think

The Pigeon Drop actually.
Author Topic: hehe

jonathanp2k3
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posted 07-06-2005 01:13

Hahaha I got 200 free cigarettes. I bought a packet of Marlboro Menthols, however when I opened the pack I discovered that inside were not infact MM's but Marlboro lights. I smoked them anyway. The next time I decided to buy a packet of menthols and replace the contents with lights. So this time I send the pack away to Phillip Morris and they write back saying they are very sorry for the incovenience and have enclosed a carton of cigs! You should try this out: buy a packet of say menthols, and then replace them with the lights and write a letter of complaint to PMI. They tend not to ask many questions [This message has been edited by jonathanp2k3 (edited 07-06-2005).] static_void
Regular posted 07-06-2005 01:38

I am an executive from Philip Morris. What you have done is a form of fraud. We will prosecute you to the full extent of the law. You can expect a Philip Morris employee to arrive at your household within the next four to five business days, so don't bother smoking your ill-gotten cigarettes. jonathanp2k3
Regular posted 07-06-2005 01:40

aw fuck FireHawk3029
Regular quote: posted 07-06-2005 01:46

Originally posted by static_void: I am an executive from Philip Morris. What you have done is a form of fraud. We will prosecute you to the full extent of the law. You can expect a Philip Morris employee to arrive at your household within the next four to five business days, so don't bother smoking your ill-gotten cigarettes.

LOL, it'd be quite funny if it was true!

static_void
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posted 07-06-2005 01:50

Hehe. But seriously though, congratulations on screwing a big tobacco company out of 200 cigarettes. illegal smile
Regular posted 07-06-2005 01:53

now i wanna try that, do they need ID and did you fill up the pack all the way?

jonathanp2k3
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posted 07-06-2005 01:55

Just send a letter to them with a return address. I would take on cigarette out the pack tho just for authenticity i.e:"I smoked one and then realised that these weren't the brand I thought I bought..." White Knight
Regular posted 07-06-2005 02:12

Great, now they are killing you for free static_void
Regular posted 07-06-2005 02:12

this does fit into bltc, but you should make a similar post in Bad Ideas -lets get a bunch of people ripping off these billion dollar tobacco corporations! MasterMind420
Regular posted 07-06-2005 02:15

I don't think the tobacco companies would care. At least they know someone is consuming 200 of their cigarettes and becoming more addicted so they can easily make back their money and more. I know 200 cigarettes isn’t a lot but it still contributes in their favor. Whatever just a thought. h0ppinlowrider
Regular posted 07-06-2005 02:33

You had to buy the light cigs right? so the MM were not free. Is there a big price difference?

jonathanp2k3
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posted 07-06-2005 02:35

nope exact same price. Think of it as: buy one pack, get 19 free! SilentOp47
Regular posted 07-06-2005 03:08

^^Isn't there 20 in a pack? That means you would only be getting 9 free. Correct me if I'm wrong and there is only 10. I just dont smoke so I don't know, that's just what I thought. Sanity0verRated
Regular posted 07-06-2005 05:03

Yeah, you didn't get 200 free cigarettes, unless you got to keep the one you replaced with lights. chris_the_drummer posted 07-06-2005 05:08
Regular quote:

Originally posted by Sanity0verRated: Yeah, you didn't get 200 free cigarettes, unless you got to keep the one you replaced with lights.

they sent him a carton not a pack Sanity0verRated
Regular posted 07-06-2005 06:20

So he bought just a pack, and replaced the pack with the lights, and got a carton?(got confused because he called it a packet) stoned_children
Regular posted 07-06-2005 06:25

dude, its like that woman who got a deep-fried chicken head in her KFC. so what do they do? Give her more of the same product thats like if you got a bag of chips with poison in it and on complaint you get more free chips. funny huh?

jonathanp2k3
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posted 07-06-2005 12:07

quote:

Originally posted by jonathanp2k3: Hahaha I got 200 free cigarettes. I So this time I send the pack away to Phillip Morris and they write back saying they are very sorry for the incovenience and have enclosed a carton of cigs!

Fraudulent
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posted 07-07-2005 08:53

did you have to send back the opened pack? PinkFloyd830
Regular posted 07-07-2005 09:21

To bad I don't like tobbaco.... insaneike_420
Regular quote: posted 07-07-2005 15:42

Originally posted by Fraudulent: did you have to send back the opened pack?

Common sense says yes... and good score on $30 worth of cigs! later

God of Toilets
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posted 07-07-2005 16:25

This is fantastic. Sell 'em to people who can't buy/afford their own cigs for $1 each. You'll make $200 if you sell all of them. I'd do it. ablkebrazibah
Regular posted 07-07-2005 16:32

congrats, you have clip and cigarettes for a month now. i wanna try this with Du Maurier. (can't believe i used caps) on another note, has anyone noticed that when you flip the DuM thing upside down it goes from du M <-> W np

my friend told me it stood for white nazi power. anyone else heard this? this is actually more of a Conspiracy! question than anything. [This message has been edited by ablkebrazibah (edited 07-07-2005).]
Author Topic: Trick Cashier Scam

vonelab
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posted 07-27-2005 00:06

WHAT YOU NEED 10x $1 Bills 2x $10 Bills STEPS 1. Buy an item under $1 and give the cashier a 10$ bill. You'll recieve 9x one dollar bills and some change. --------------------------------------------You now have $29. --------------------------------------------2. Have someone with you say "Hey, I have an extra $1 if you wanna cash those 9 ones for a single $10." - ---------- ---------- ---------- ---------- ----- ---------- ---------- ----------------------3. Get the one dollar bill off your friend and hand the cashier 9 ones and a single $10 together... (Put this $10 in so it seems like you mistook a $1 for a

$10) and take his $10 simultaniously (wait for him to get the 10 out and be ready to hand it over by keeping your attention on your friend in conversation so it seems like your waiting for him and not paying attention till hes ready). --------------------------------------------You had $29, handed the cashier $19, then recieved $10 from the cashier. You now have $20 --------------------------------------------4. The cashier should now be counting your money and notice $19. If he doesn't, pretend to notice your mistake of putting a $10 in there. Say to your friend "Got another $1... I'll get a $20". Of course he already has another... so the cashier has $19 in his hand... your friend has the extra $1... You recieve a $20 dollar bill. --------------------------------------------You recieve a $20. You now have $40. --------------------------------------------The trick is making sure they hand the $10 over right as you hand the $19 cheeze wizz
Regular posted 07-27-2005 01:55

thats a nice con.....think of it ur self? ResdogMrwhite posted 07-27-2005 02:23
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No, its an elaboration on short changing scams, there is a huge cult following for scams like that... easy money, as I can vouch for my below 10 IQ coworkers it works on, assholes like him are the reason I had to sit through an 1 and a half short change prevention seminar at work though. Thanks you fucking butt nugget. A side note, Some of us are smart... I've cut short changers off well over ten occasions by just shutting the door and holding on the the money... shortchanging them, and what they're doing is illegal so they cant complain to the manager or police. ResdogMrwhite "100% against shortchangers wasting my time"

vonelab
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posted 07-27-2005 03:41

A better method... Simply buy something under 5 dollars with a 50... look for the cashiers that don't count out the money they hand you, u want the ones that bundle it together and put it in your hand. When ya get your change... turn around and get rid of a 20 then turn back around quick and say "Wait a minute, I gave you a 50... theres only xxamount here". To get rid of a 20, craft a nifty elastic device with tape to ure hand that will fling it up your shirt quick... The cashiers mind wont question that you pocketed it because you do it so quickly that they just see you turn to walk away and quickly turn back. The key is quickness here. Also, the illusion is the two twenties you get... your not recieving doubles of anything else, it would be easy to forget taking out two twenties especially if its busy and ure head is potato fried from all the people comin into ure gas station and handing out all that change. dDIzzIEe
Regular posted 07-27-2005 05:04

Another short-changing variation: http:/ /web.archi ve.org/web /200406031 10413/www. rorta.com/ scams/twin ing.shtml

Author

Topic:

Pickpockets

h0ppinlowrider
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posted 07-24-2005 02:01

I have read almost every guide on pickpocketing and I think I am ready to go out and try it in public. I have practiced on friends in school but they all know when I tap them or what ever I am picking because I have been practicing for a while. Well anyways is anyone else here a pickpocket and have any storys or tips they can share with me? I am gonna target older people too because they are basicly retards anyways. KarEEmDaNIggA
Regular posted 07-24-2005 02:07

Don't target elderly please. That's just really mean/wrong. But remember, teams work best.

h0ppinlowrider
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posted 07-24-2005 02:10

quote:

Originally posted by KarEEmDaNIggA: Don't target elderly please. That's just really mean/ wrong. But remember, teams work best.

You dont live in Florida, Old people here ruin everything worthwhile. We have an ampatheature and they are trying to shut that down. We had a night club and they complained it was ruining the town and had that shut down. They made it so our car stereos cannot be heard within 10ft of the car or we get a ticket. So I think they can either be robbed from or lined up and killed. ProtextBlue292
Regular posted 07-24-2005 04:52

One time I pick pocketed this cooler torch lighter from this kid at school. That is the only pickpocketing I have ever done Tokolosh
Regular quote: posted 07-24-2005 12:16

Originally posted by KarEEmDaNIggA: Don't target elderly please. That's just really mean/ wrong.

Just because it's easier, doesn't make it wrong.
quote:

Originally posted by KarEEmDaNIggA: But remember, teams work best.

Correct. Handicaps do work very well, remember that. As for going solo, we all know crowded places are the best. But the best crowded area? Stairs. Markets, Bustations, people can turn in directions unknown to you. Whereas stairs, in most cases, are one way. And it amplyfies that whole idea of people 'unaware of everything around them', i.e. you taking stuff from their pockets. School stairs are such a breeze for pick pocketing, but because it's a rush, make sure you target your mark, don't go for a random selection while on the stairs. But if you're looking to go into the big bad world of pick pocketing outside of school, don't start hiting places like lifts straight away. I'll post more later if I can be bothered, I have much to say on this subject because I believe pick pocketing isn't looked at enough these days. But I must depart.

Garrett
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posted 07-24-2005 16:33

Ive read the guides and seen the videos, but when i go to do it in oublic i just freeze up. It takes real guts to go through with it. 703
Regular posted 07-25-2005 22:51

I would say girls are the easiest to pickpocket. Yesterday I went to the Vans Warped Tpor in Minneapolis, MN and while i was there i got like 6 wallets. They had very little oney in the though. I got all them while in the crowd watching the bands( The Offspring and Billy Idol fucking Rocked!!) I would also go to where they were selling food and just walk right in the middle of the huge line and I got tons of tickets and got free food. I would also go up to all the girls with phones in there back pockets and take them if they were t-mobile. I also got a bunch of glass pipes. Warped tour fucking rocked. Just remember not to be scared and if someone notices it just get ready to run and dip into a crowd. 703

undergoing_treatment posted 07-26-2005 21:58
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sounds good must try h0ppinlowrider
Regular posted 07-26-2005 22:06

Well on monday I have the anger managment tour 3 so I am gonna try some picking when its crowded going up and down stairs. 0x29A
Regular quote: posted 07-26-2005 23:59

Originally posted by h0ppinlowrider: Well on monday I have the anger managment tour 3 so I am gonna try some picking when its crowded going up and down stairs.

hahaha... never did the name 'Bad Ideas' ring soo true Mitty
Regular quote: posted 07-27-2005 05:09

Originally posted by 703: I would say girls are the easiest to pickpocket. Yesterday I went to the Vans Warped Tpor in Minneapolis, MN and while i was there i got like 6 wallets. They had very little oney in the though. I got all them while in the crowd watching the bands ( The Offspring and Billy Idol fucking Rocked!!) I would also go to where they were selling food and just walk right in the middle of the huge line and I got tons of tickets and got free food. I would also go up to all the girls with phones in there back pockets and take them if they were t-mobile. I also got a bunch of glass pipes. Warped tour fucking rocked. Just remember not to be scared and if someone notices it just get ready to run and dip into a crowd. 703

wow, you are a fucking dick. I hope you get caught by one of their boyfriends and you get your ass beat, you freakin' degenerate. Donswald
Regular posted 07-27-2005 05:19

Sweet. September 30 I'm going to a System of a Down concert in Chicago with some people, I can get some shit in the mash pits. diet n00b
Regular posted 07-27-2005 05:21

dude rock on- I stole 300 dollars from old ppl's purses in a church while they were all in the choir.. I hate old ppl. that was all in one day too I fucking love the feeling of free wad of cash. but as for pick"pocket"ing, I've never had the balls to do it. too risky ih and as for the pickpocketing- I foresee at least 4 more threads abt it in the next day.. bad ideas gets "fads" I guess and there come a whole bunch of threads abt one thing.. car shopping for example dDIzzIEe
Regular quote: posted 07-27-2005 05:42

Originally posted by h0ppinlowrider: I have read almost every guide on pickpocketing

It would be beneficial if you could provide the links to any pickpocketing guides... The only one I can think of is Secrets of a Pickpocket: http://www. readersdigest.co.uk/magazine/CHAY-4TAQ7D.htm and Purses and Watches Pickpocketing Technique: http:/ /www.totse . com/en/ba d_ideas/sc ams_and_ri p_offs/pur sesandwatc h170261. html [This message has been edited by dDIzzIEe (edited 07-27-2005).]

h0ppinlowrider
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posted 07-27-2005 17:02

http://www.geocities.com/grandmastathief/ It has pictures and shit too
Author Topic: 2 For 1 Deal

Emperor
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posted 07-27-2005 18:33

I'm not sure if it's been discussed or anything.. but, I did it today Next time you go to McDonald's (or anywhere with a drivethrough)... get your shit, rummage through your bag When you find something you want more of but don't feel like paying, wait until the 16 year old employees aren't looking, and put the burger on the floor, where it is hidden from view Next, just say 'Hey, I ordered another cheeseburger!' and hand them the bag, they will check and to their surprise it's not there! And give you a new one. Nothing magical, but it's simple, and effective.
Author Topic: Free Fuel

martin
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posted 07-24-2005 08:20

Does anyone here fill their tank up at a fuel station and drive off without paying? Is there a way to do this without being caught? It's becoming expensive as fuck and I'm too poor to pay. erbus
Regular posted 07-24-2005 08:46

nope, you're almost sure to get cought if you're that desprate, siphon it off parked cars on the street

martin
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posted 07-24-2005 08:54

quote:

Originally posted by erbus: nope, you're almost sure to get cought if you're that desprate, siphon it off parked cars on the street

What if I covered my plates and did it in the middle of the night with no people around? Are cameras the only security they have? Good idea,I hadn't though of siphoning. Rock
Regular posted 07-24-2005 09:42

That's why you have to pre-pay at night if you really want to do it get the furtherest one and hide under and full up a bottle(you know one of those red ones?) don't take your car or you'll be spotted but a bottle, your sweet. martin
Regular quote: posted 07-24-2005 09:56

Originally posted by Rock: That's why you have to pre-pay at night if you really want to do it get the furtherest one and hide under and full up a bottle(you know one of those red ones?) don't take your car or you'll be spotted but a bottle, your sweet.

We don't have to to prepay where I live. You just fill up, pay and leave as usual regardless of what time it is. The bottle idea is good but would have to be done real quick. I was originally thinking of getting a couple of plates from another car, putting them over mine and then just taking them off after I drove off. Don't know if it'll work though.

tibberous
Regular

posted 07-25-2005 03:47

Would say it depends on your car and how far away you live. Red Corsica - Yes Gold Hummer - No

One_Armed_Scissor posted 07-25-2005 04:46
Regular

The town I use to live in, my friend stole gas for 6 months straight. I swear to God he never paid for gas- ever. Now in that town, every gas station has pre-pay only. puzzledmind
Regular posted 07-25-2005 06:57

I happen to work at a gas station. I used to have no problems with people driving off without paying, before I worked there. But now, I fuckin' hate them. Mainly because the bosses will usually take the losses out of the employees' paychecks, here. I chased a fat man's car down once when he tried to not pay for gas. We're really allowed to do anything outside of killing someone here to stop a gas theft in progress. I threw rocks at his car. Heh. And you do have to understand, the more people steal gas, the higher the prices will go (albeit right now it only adds about .5% of our chain's overrall yearly theft to the price), and the more likely it will be for all gas stations to switch to prepay. And that's a pain in the ass. So....don't steal gas, you cheap bastard. Buy a bike. LoL. --Puzzledmind [This message has been edited by puzzledmind (edited 07-25-2005).]

kieren
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posted 07-25-2005 07:09

I work at a gas station. It happens all the time. We have cameras, but they suck, and it's hard as hell to see what happens. Go there, don't look dodgy, be polite, park far away from the building, fake plates would help. Make sure it's a busy period and the staff are preoccupied. Then just make a break for it. Kinda common sense really. Sliced Bread
Regular posted 07-25-2005 07:10

Here in my wonderful state of NJ, we have gas attendents do all the pumping and shit, so therefore stealing gas is next to impossible. blink
Regular posted 07-25-2005 16:30

At a small gas station with no pumps you get a small amount of gas, AND A RECEIPT. Now fill up and drive off. When you get pulled over, tell the officer there must be some mistake, "I have my receipt right here"! blink
Regular posted 07-25-2005 16:31

That was a really stupid mistake. I feel sheepish. What I INTENDED to say is a small gas station with no CAMERAS. the lost cause
Regular posted 07-25-2005 19:58

blink, there is an edit button. dude, dont steal petrol from the station. siphon it from your enemies cars! steal=bad siphon=good

10 elevenths
Regular

posted 07-25-2005 21:45

Yeah stealing gas is a common crime. My physics teacher told me a story about it once. He said at a gas station this one time he was in line to pay for his gas. Infront of him this black woman was at the cash register. The guy told her how much it was and she said that that was more than what she pumped. She then complained very loudly about him discriminating against her, and got in quite the uproar about it. It was just a distraction, while her friend stole gas and drove away. However it didn't work. My physics teacher came back the the station later and said he got the lisence plate number. The gas station didn't even need it, a bunch of other people had seen it too, plus they had the plates and make of the car. Lesson? People are quite dilligent about this, and regular people will go out of their way to turn you in. A well thought out plan will not necessarly succed. I agree with siphoning. Just go out in the night and fill to your hearts content. Harder to get caught, and if you do get caught the penalty will be smaller. spider plant
Regular posted 07-26-2005 03:23

find a landscaping truck. they almost always have gas cans in back. just learn the difference betweend regular and 2stroke gas. 2stroke will fuck up your car. FrontMeSomePussy
Regular posted 07-26-2005 05:11

You know what, working for a place that takes wages out of the workers wages is some place you don't want to work. I am sure if you hurt someone for stealing gas, they will sue you for everything you got also. Quit being a dumbass get an education and get a better job. By the way, thefts are written off either by insurance claims or taxes at the end of the fiscal season.

Nzyme
Regular

posted 07-27-2005 17:58

quote:

Originally posted by blink: At a small gas station with no pumps you get a small amount of gas, AND A RECEIPT. Now fill up and drive off. When you get pulled over, tell the officer there must be some mistake, "I have my receipt right here"!

I was thinking of a very similar idea. You can buy half a tank of gas say on Monday, legitly. Then on tuesday, fill up a gas canister, so it doesn't show up in your fuel gauge(this is assuming no cameras), and then when the officer stops you, you show him the reciept, and hopefully he won't notice the date, or you can coax him into thinking it is that date. I think your idea is a little better though.

puzzledmind
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posted 07-29-2005 05:10

quote:

Originally posted by FrontMeSomePussy: You know what, working for a place that takes wages out of the workers wages is some place you don't want to work. I am sure if you hurt someone for stealing gas, they will sue you for everything you got also. Quit being a dumbass get an education and get a better job. By the way, thefts are written off either by insurance claims or taxes at the end of the fiscal season.

Hey dipshit, I just graduated. This is called "Working to get through college". Once you get out of junior high, you might understand the concept.
Author Topic: Original Scam.

acid_drop
Regular

posted 07-29-2005 00:29

I've come up with new scam. I'm pretyt sure it's new, or at least it's new to these boards. Now I've done this all legitimently, but I think it could work out to others favor. The first thing you need to do is gain a non-profit status 501(c)3. What you need to do is make an independant film script or some type of media that that would qualify for this. Very first thing to do is find a sponsor. But to begin with I'll tell WHAT a fiscal sponsor is. Basicly, if you're making a flim you can either go through the IRS (very costly, and time consuming) to gain the 501c3 not for profit status, or go though a fiscal sponsor. This fiscal sponsor will give you the 501c3 status so you can recive grants, and large donations. Your donators will want you to have this status, so they will recive a tax refund on their donation. These donations will be written out to your sponsor and then they will pass the money, or tangible donations on to you. They catch is they retain around 5-10 percent of the grants or donations. This isn't at all bad, expecially if your doing it as a scam, but even if you are going to do it legit style. So we've now got the annoying ass information down, lets get movign. Each sponsor will want you to supply at least a discription of your project and a budget. The discription write up is simple and straight forward,the budget may be where you struggle. Basicly you should include "travel expenses, Computer media station, money for other equipment e.g. camera lighting banks props and that. So you can make it where it comes out to around 100,000 dollars. (Cameras are around 3,000, media station with hardware/software should also be around 3,000.... And then your salery for people involved shuch as yoru film editor should get a few grand.) so you can see how it could add up quickly. Also you can apply for grants, which could be quite heafty if your project is big enough. Make sure your Title, and movie descritions are really sappy and documentary style. Mine was fictional, and it was hard as hell to get grants and shit. What you do is write in to busniess or compnays (not microsoft or something massivly huge), somewhat locally or small that could donate a computer or cameras if you write convincingly. You can ask for donations from pretty much anybody really, and always make sure to mention you're not or profit and that they WILL get a tax deduction for most, if not all of what they donated. Basicly, just ask for cash donations, or hardware/software donations from places that have that stuff and/or sympathise with the film arts. Just a reminder, make sure you make a sappy ass film descrition, and the safest way would to be to produce a small film. Maybe even like a 10 miniute one. Becaus they will ask you for progress reports and reciepts on what you spent it for. THe way to take care of the recipts is to buy the movie related shit, and then turn around and sell it. So this is a lot of hassel sure, but there isn't a great deal of risk, and there is

NONE if you actually come up with a 5-10 miniute film. Even if it looks like total shit, just tell them things went wrong and your editor decided to fuck you over cause you didn't pay him enough. Now I'm not sure if I wrote this clearly enough for you to understand, but if you ask me I can reinterate and clarify certain parts for you. This isn't entirely easy, but the return could be huge if you tackle it the right way. I've done this legit and had a good hour film that was well recived. I'm just saying that it is possible for this system to be taken advantage of and exploited. Have fun, and remember, I'm not responsible for your actions. I merely posted a theory, and left the decision in your hands. It is
Regular posted 07-29-2005 00:47

Too long/Have my own scams acid_drop
Regular quote: posted 07-29-2005 00:59

Originally posted by It is: Too long/Have my own scams

Then just dont respond. I'm pretty sure they show post counts on each post anymore, so what exactly was the point of that post? acid_drop
Regular posted 07-29-2005 05:09

Can't edit title can I?? dDIzzIEe
Regular posted 07-29-2005 06:28

acid_drop, drop me an email: [email protected]
Author Topic: Proper way to siphon gas with sketch

Zerataul
Regular

posted 07-29-2005 23:34

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b156/purplekhanabooze/gas_siphon.gif you blow in through A, tank fills with air, gasoline has nowhere to go but in the second tube (B) and into your tank/bucket etc. [This message has been edited by Zerataul (edited 07-29-2005).] spider plant
Regular posted 07-30-2005 06:13

youre retarded. go fuckin drink the gas tehn pee it into a tank thats how to siphon. Raster
Regular posted 07-30-2005 06:16

Haha, that was so fucking funny!!! black_light
Regular posted 07-30-2005 06:17

OH EM GEEZ PUT YER PEE PEE IN TEH GAZ TANK!!111one!1oneone!11 L0L ZORS Rock
Regular posted 07-30-2005 09:40

You must have a hella lotta breath, do you know how big a gass tank is? Not only that you would need a plug or the air would just come out of the top. Much easier just to suck it. 10 elevenths
Regular posted 07-30-2005 16:18

Fairly inovative, but totally unworkable for many reasons. You'd have to form an air tight seal over the gas cap. The air you blew in probably wouldn't displace the gas, it would just fill the space in the tank already occupied by air; which would be on top of the gasoline. Plus you would have to have the lungs of the Hulk to do any of this. Just suck it out, and have a mint for after.

delusional_reality posted 07-30-2005 20:21
Regular

are actually siphon it? two pipes one container with the two pipes in it (container is air tight) one end of the one of the pipes is in the ''gas'' tank and the other your mouth or compresser is attached to you blow in this pipe and a partial vacuum is created so atmospheric pressure pushes the gas in...duh
Author Topic: Goodwill

Parliament
Regular

posted 07-30-2005 04:00

Goodwill is a goldmine. Before you brush it off as a dumping ground for the stained and threadbare, consider the virtually non-existent security. At my Goodwill, the only cameras cover the registers, and I am not convinced they are even operational. The dressing rooms are unattended, as well. Bring a backpack and/or loose clothing, and go to town. Understand that not everything there is trash. There are often gently worn, brand-name clothes and shoes, and many new items with the original store tags still on. It may take a few minutes of rummaging to find these hidden gems, but it is well worth it. The highlights of today's exploit: -brand new Abercrombie and Fitch skirt -mint condition Abercrombie and Fitch shirt -green Adidas -Le Tigre polo shirt [This message has been edited by Parliament (edited 07-30-2005).] badwiskey
Regular posted 07-30-2005 04:13

Yeah, Goodwill isnt that bad, they have some pretty cool stuff sometimes. Once I saw a sega pico, and another time there was a really cool suit there. Ive never tried stealing from them though.
Author Topic: The Bitch Calling Scheme

faithbanks
Regular

posted 07-30-2005 19:43

Bitch calling is one of my favorite schemes. To start, go to your cabinet and pick up an item such as a carton of ice cream. Next, look on the back for that toll free customer service number. Think up a good lie about the product (i.e. the ice cream has apparently melted and been refrozen before it got to you). Next, call the people up with the lie. They will ask you for your name (give them a bullshit one that has a same or similar last name as you so you can get the mail from them), the barcode number, where you brought the shit, how much you paid for it etc. Just give them the information and if you don't remember or you didn't pay for the item in the first place, just lie! They'll either send you a coupon for a free one or send you a refund or sometimes they send the maildude around your house with a package of goodies. Swim has opened a bank account under her alias and cashes these checks. Swim has also gotten free shampoo, soap, TV dinners, batteries, make-up and more using this scheme. It is easy and can be done on any product with an 1-800 number on the back. Sometimes they will even send you goodies by mail...Swim has gotten boxes of candy, acne cream and deodorant like this. Two words of advice. 1. They may send you a postage paid mailer so you can send the item back for testing. This is especially true if you do this for a personal care product and claim that it smells like butt or burned your face. A good way around this is to send a partially used item or just lie and say you sent it because stuff is always getting lost in the mail. But, they rarely do this. 2. Keep in mind that one company may make more than one product. For example one company may make everything from a particular brand of potted meat to another brand of fish stick TV dinners. So, be careful not to keep sticking up the same companies over and over again or they will get really suspicious if your address keeps popping up over and over again. Spread the misfortune around mates. A good way to get items for this is to go through your parents closets for products to call on, or you could always just shoplift the items as I do. Or, you could do what I did once. I filled my shopping cart full of items that had customer service numbers on the back. Then I just went in the eatery and called on my cellphone bitching about every single product. Then I ordered an Icee, put the shit back on the shelf, stole some items and just left. One to two weeks later my mailbox was stuffed with packages and coupons for totally free shit for swim. Here's another tip...make the thing you're bitching about plausible! For example, don't call up the lucky charms company and be like "oh! there's a dead frog in my cereal". Say something like "the marshmellows tasted stale" or something like that. Make the lie believable please! This also works well if you steal from stores. A lot of times I will steal things and then I'll go through the line paying for things with my free coupons to get

LP off my ass. It works. Why do I call it bitch calling? Well, you call, you bitch and you get free shit. It's that simple. 0x29A
Regular posted 07-30-2005 20:12

Honestly, thats just soo low, it blows my mind. The lowest form of shoplifting, stealing candy from a supermarket, takes more guts than the shit you posted. The words trailer park trash cant even begin to describe what you are. People like you are why I cant stand poor people. Optionryder420 posted 07-30-2005 20:25
Regular

Oh yes, you definently opened up an account with an alias and are doing these miniscule scams. You're a dumbass. faithbanks
Regular quote: posted 07-30-2005 20:27

Originally posted by Optionryder420: Oh yes, you definently opened up an account with an alias and are doing these miniscule scams. You're a dumbass.

I had the account for other nefarious reasons

faithbanks
Regular

posted 07-30-2005 20:31

quote:

Originally posted by 0x29A: Honestly, thats just soo low, it blows my mind. The lowest form of shoplifting, stealing candy from a supermarket, takes more guts than the shit you posted. The words trailer park trash cant even begin to describe what you are. People like you are why I cant stand poor people.

Well, if you want to read something so "high" than you shouldn't be on bad ideas. I have better things to do than to trash synagogues and take revenge out of my family members like half of the things I've read. He who points the finger of blame at someone else but reflects the shadow back upon himself. I personally see nothing wrong with "bitch calling"...the merchandise is overpriced and artery clogging anyway but they think people have no other recourse. And about me being poor--sure. I do this for kicks...I simply hate most people in general and delight in fucking them over. Cheers you judgemental jacking off on your sister's senior pictures motherfucker! Emperor
Regular posted 07-30-2005 20:33

you sound like you need to get laid faithbanks
Regular quote: posted 07-30-2005 20:43

Originally posted by Emperor: you sound like you need to get laid

I'm glad that you brought that up. I was boosting in the mall earlier today when I went to housewares which is where I bag all of my loot. It is really out of the way and private...that's why boosters love it and so do perverts. I swear I saw bodies moving around in the display bed so I walked by and I saw this chick and her man under the covers. Damn, couldn't you at least wait until you got to the parking lot! I saw them later at the food court and I practically was right behind them and they wouldn't make eye contact.

Some Old Drunk Guy
Regular

posted 07-30-2005 20:51

liar. dDIzzIEe
Regular posted 07-30-2005 20:56

Here is a written variation of the same swindle: http:/ /www.totse .com/bbs/A rchives/Ar chive-0000 09/HTML/20 030316-7-0 03182.html and faithbanks, drop me an email: [email protected]
Author Topic: Great find for vending machien hackers

Raster
Regular

posted 07-30-2005 04:58

Ok, was was looking up random stuff on ebay, when I ran acrossed vending machiens, there was a pic of the manufacture of one, looked it up and I found service manuals for hundreds of them!!! Here you go: http:/ /mtgeb01.m aytag.com/ RD/techbul letins.nsf /webtb?Ope nPage&Base Target=main1 All you need to know about vending machiens lifejunkie
Administrator posted 07-30-2005 05:18

Moving to Bad Ideas. Raster
Regular posted 07-30-2005 05:26

Well, acctual it wouldnt have mattered if it was in there, cuz it was technical guides, but whatever. ass...

thex2cube
Regular

posted 07-30-2005 07:27

free money COIN PAYOUT MODE This function allows you to dump coins from the coin mechanism. Press select button 4 to enter mode and the lowest coin value dispensable will show on the display. Press select button 2 or 3 to scroll through the different coin values available. Press and hold select button 4 to dump the coins whose value is shown on the display. Press select button 1 will return to "CPO". Press select button 2 to scroll to the next routine. free soda PROMOTIONAL SALES This function is used to initiate a promotional sale. Press select button 4 and the display will show "un" (the number of vends required to initiate the promotional sale), "Fr" (the number of free beverages delivered), or "SELXXX" ("XXX" are the characters representing the selection numbers enabled for the promotion). Press select button 2 or 3 to scroll through "un" "Fr", and "SELXXX". With the prompt you wish to enter showing on the display, press select button 4. Raster
Regular posted 07-30-2005 08:35

haha, ya ok...

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Disclaimer Certain parts of this text file deal with activities and devices which would be in violation of various Federal, State, and local laws if actually carried out or constructed. I, DIzzIE, do not advocate the breaking of any law(s) :-). This text file is presented strictly for informational and entertainment purposes only. I do not guarantee that any of the information contained in this file is correct, workable, or factual. I am not responsible for, nor do I assume any liability for, damages resulting from the (mis)use of any information in this file. Please sign here __________________ stating that you understand and agree to adhere to the terms presented in said Disclaimer before proceeding any further. You may not read the rest of this text if you do not provide a signature written in the freshest yak blood. Amen. Preamble Another year, another heap o' shit scams. Old schoolers will remember when this thing started out as a compilation post on the &TOTSE Bad Ideas forum back in 2003, and was subsequently compiled into a textfile by TX297. And thus was born Heap O' Scams I. In 2005, I compiled a second Heap, ergo the birth of Heap O' Scams II. Well, now is the time for a third sibling, a continuation of the preservation of the fine art of scam artistry. Simply click on the appropriate number in the table of contents to go directly to that post, and hit your browser's back key to return to the table of contents. You'll doubtlessly notice that there are some trends which repeatedly show up over the years: receipt cons, complaint scams, rogue recycling methods, siphoning techniques, and so forth. However, below the waves of redundant commonality there may arise an undercurrent or two of marvelous innovation; dive deep, and don't forget to come up for air! Version Links The Heap O' Scams I can be found here (mirrored here) The Heap O' Scams II can be found here The All-In-One compilation (which contains the unofficial Bad Ideas FAQ [v1.2], along with Heaps I and II) can be found here And, of course, don't forget to check out www.dizzy.ws and www.rorta.net for more scam ideas ;) Plea Demand for Distribution Ideas die by becoming forgotten. Post this guide on torrent trackers, usenet groups, other web forums or old school BBSs (drop me an email if you know of any existing textfile BBS!), IRC channels, emule and KaZaA, and so on and so forth. Print it out and pass it around in school, leave copies in libraries and bookstores, street corners and newspaper machines. When somebody raises questions answered here, link them to the guide. Plagiarize, rewrite, cut and paste, have sexual intercourse with it without permission, and otherwise modify this text. As Free once said, "it's absolutely free because it's yours. Think about it." And most importantly, discuss and build upon the ideas contained herein with one another. To submit a scam for Heap O' Scams IV email [email protected] The soundtrack to which this heap was composed to consists of Gae Bolg, Schandmaul, and In Extremo. Enjoy! -DIzzIE July 17, 2006 Table of Contents 1. How to Own Wal-Mart...[shoplifting] 2. car shopping help 3. Siphoning gas 4. Confusing the cashier into giving you a dollar [short changing]

5. stealing copper 6. Easy way to make $$$$$$$$ [scrapping] 7. Slim Jim Thread 8. wuts a really easy ass way to get like $100 in a week? 9. Impressioning 10. easy free products [complaint scam] 11. scam ideas 12. Where to find copper? 13. gotta free carton of smokes [complaint scam] 14. RECEIPT SCAM? 15. Simple Con Trick [bar bet] 16. donation jar scam 17. u want money huh? free? easy scam? come in [pedophile baiting] 18. If you work fast food, read my scam... [change skimming] 19. selling warehouse skids [pallet recycling] 20. Funny Mail Order Scam Idea! 21. So I'm staying at this hotel 22. School Textbooks 23. Easiest way to make some cash stealing...(need more ideas though) [school theft] 24. selling broken game to ebgames 25. A SCAM TO MAKE YOU GOOD AMOUNT OF MONEY. [new age con] 26. Easy Airport theft??? 27. Ingenius theft idea (or maybe not) [shoplifting] 28. free cigarettes [complaint/return scam] 29. back from beach week-scam ideas... 30. siphoning? 31. Free drive-thru 32. Paypal Scam 33. Barnes and Noble [book discounts] 34. Kmart Serial Swap [barcoding] 35. How to make a product defect? 36. Train Hopping 37. Free Printing on College Campuses 38. self checkout scam 39. Raffle Scam 40. Stealing copper + aluminum from construction sites 41. Shoplifting: Tom Hanks Style 42. If you really MUST try to get free fast food...[couponing] 43. gym locker scam 44. Blockbuster movies/games for 5 bucks 45. Simple method to get a group of people into the movies for free 46. Very easy way to score clothes/wallets 47. Quick Video Game Scam. 48. Dumpster diving with a purpose 49. Want free shit? You got it! [complaint scam] 50. Found some Radio Shack Employee Documents 51. CVS check cashing policy allows for security flaw. 52. Nice way to get money with paypal. 53. Free Video Games 54. Bathroom scam.

55. Scraping for fun and profit. 56. Bad Ideas FAQ 57. The $50 scam...[shortchanging] 58. Time Card Fun 59. good little distraction for you [purse snatching] 60. The Pon Poning Scheme 61. walmart!!! what to steal how to steal it and how much it cost. list of lifting scams 62. Telescamming / e-mail scamming thru. spam lists 63. return scam, think it'll work? 64. Box Car Shopping 65. Criminal History Vol.1--The Spanish Prisoner 66. Quentin's Guide to Various Bad Ideas 67. wal mart!!! barcode swapping-no scanning and printing barcodes make 300$ easy a day 68. Wal-Mart's new relaxed shoplifting policy
Author Topic: How to Own Wal-Mart...

Philadelphia
Regular

posted 03-15-2006 03:55

Okay this scam basically works with PC Games, DVD’s, CD’s And Lower priced Console Games (PS2,Xbox & Gamecube) Ever notice those bargain bins in Wal-Mart that have unfamiliar low grade movies? Well these are used for the perfect distraction. Take a Video Game, DVD or CD off the shelf bring it to a nearby bargain bin that has the most activity. Now simply place the product you would like to shoplift into the bin. Allow other people to shuffle around the other products to burry your merchandise. Once your item becomes unnoticeable begin to pretend as if you are digging through the bin to find something. However instead try to rip the shrink rap off your misplaced product. Perform this under all the other buried products. Remove the CD from the jacket and pocket it behind someone. Walk out the door. Depending where the bins are you might not have access to all DVD’s, CD’s etc. If not just take an item that is located outside of the electronics section. Questions: What is the best way to pocket a CD? Is it best to directly leave the store, or keep walking around? Please give your opinion on how to improve this scam…

Nocturnal Variant
Regular

posted 03-15-2006 04:01

You cannot just OWN Wal-Mart. You cant just MAKE it leave. Once its here, its here for good. *holds up sign* "its not safe to talk here meet me outside" Philadelphia
Regular quote: posted 03-15-2006 04:03

Originally posted by Nocturnal Variant: You cannot just OWN Wal-Mart. You cant just MAKE it leave. Once its here, its here for good. *holds up sign* "its not safe to talk here meet me outside"

Ignore the title, and give some tips. Okay? btaylor74
Regular posted 03-15-2006 04:32

i used to do this samething it works pretty good draco237
Regular posted 03-15-2006 05:29

TOO TIME CONSUMING! longer u spend in a store, better the chance security or LP will notice you Radtacular
Regular posted 03-15-2006 05:33

As you pull the disc out.. pull it out between two of those bargain bin dvd's and walk to a safe place with them.. pocket the disc then decide you dont want those dvd's and leave

roll2daspot
Regular

posted 03-16-2006 00:59

I know someone who got owned by wal-mart like a week ago, he worked there for like 6 months, then he stole a shitload of gift cards and activated them, then he tried to use them with his employee discount, of course he got busted/charged/fired. sloppycomeshot
Regular posted 03-16-2006 02:35

i've found a really easy way to get brand new PC games for 10 bucks. all you have to do is find the cheap $10 PC game section and pick up one of those but make sure the UPC is a sticker on the outside. (just make it look like you're reading the back of the games while you check for the sticker.) also pick up the new $50+ game you want. now go to the stuffed animal aisle or another equally unmonitored area and peel the UPC sticker off the cheap game and slap it over the UPC on the $50 game. find an old lady cashier and go through her line, she'll never know the game is supposed to be $50. the item will scan at $10 and "PC software" will show on the screen and receipt so you don't have to worry about the names of the games being similar at all. now leave the store and enjoy your new 80% off game! or go to another store and do a noreceipt-return with the game (remove the sticker first :P ) and then you just made a few bucks! you can also sell the games to your friends or on ebay for about 40 bucks. i did this a bunch of times and went to 4 different walmarts around my area and returned 2 games at a time per store! i just said my grandparents sent me the games for *random holiday* but i already had them. they gave me no problems at all and i ended up with $400+ credit on gift cards for walmart! in the end it cost me only $80 to do this, so i made a $300 dollar profit after selling the gift cards on ebay. you are much less likely to get caught "ticket switching" than if you just ripped the boxes open and stole the games. have fun! pengd0t
Regular quote: posted 03-16-2006 04:16

Originally posted by sloppycomeshot: i've found a really easy way to get brand new PC games for 10 bucks. all you have to do is...

For an even better method, couldn't you just buy a $10 game, or peel the sticker if you could do it well enough, and take it home and scan it, then print it to a sheet of large labels. You could probably print several on a single label sticker then x-acto them out to an appropriate shape. You could manufacture a whole roll of the things. Also, does wal-mart use "store" coupons? If so, if you managed to get one of those for some miscelllaneous electronics item, you could use a coupon to get even more off of your newly ten-dollared game. Of course the coupon would be scanned, palmed or taken out of view otherwise, and some other piece of paper fed into the self-checkout.

This seems like not a bad method at all. Philadelphia
Regular posted 03-17-2006 00:44

Thanks for the tips.... Looks like the three of your methods are better then mine. fire_jade
Regular posted 03-17-2006 03:40

If you wanna own wal-mart, you need to buy shares, slowly building up, until you own more than 51%. splitter307
Regular posted 03-17-2006 03:47

there used to be this really dumb guy that worked at my local wal mart and some items need approval and shit in the self checkout and he used to stand right near me and put his code and password in...i used them to change prices on shit and everything..i got anything i wanted for about 1 dollar...you have to at least make it look legit.but be careful because the persoon that stands near the self checkouts has a monitor where they can see the screen of every self checkout..only do this when that person leaves their station to help a customer or something...if you can find the code and get this done, it works great

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Topic:

car shopping help

splitter307
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posted 03-16-2006 18:25

hey guys i need some help robbing cars: what are the best places to do it without getting caught? what are some precautions to take? best ways of getting in (dont care if they notice) best place to do it as in the most stuff in the cars

bluefox
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posted 03-16-2006 18:28

I gotta goto class but when I get back ill post some tips.

Experimental
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posted 03-16-2006 19:00

Alot of what plays into car shopping is common sense. For starters, don't try a car with a light on the dashboard. Dark neighborhoods, without motion sensor lights. Large parking lots, but be careful for cameras (themepark parking lots are easiest and I have never known them to have cameras). Precautions... Wear good shoes, and if you have a buddy going with you have one on lookout and one stashing shit in a bag. Don't wear flashy clothing or be loud, more common sense things. Best ways of getting in? Open the door. You'd be surprised how many people forget to lock their cars, or just don't. Otherwise, I wouldn't try. When an alarm goes off it wakes up the neighborhood. If you can find a good upperclass area to car shop from, go for it. It's a high risk, which ups the reward. In my opinion a large themeparks parking lot or a beach parking lot is best. There's a topic on the beach one already, go look at that. splitter307
Regular posted 03-16-2006 20:11

what we normally do is go to an apartment complex...we check for unlocked doors and if they arent, i have a bb gun and i just break the window and get in..its actually not that loud...after that we usually raid the car and then pop the trunk and check in there...what else can we do? Experimental
Regular posted 03-16-2006 23:19

Don't do that unless the apartment parking is seperate from the aparments, not in the middle of all the apartments. Don't break the window with a BB gun, first of all if someone catches you you're considered armed and second off you're breaking the window; nice way to leave traces. jarmungand
Regular posted 03-17-2006 03:33

Experimental is def. right, the BB gun is not worth bringing along just to break windows with. Won't a rock or your fist or a wrench work just as good? Breaking into a car and stealing from it is larceny, but if you have the BB gun when you're doing it it becomes robbery, which is a significantly more serious charge. If you're using a lookout make sure he's worth bring along. Every person you bring adds to risk; its just another person that could potentially rat you out to the pigs. The lookout should be keeping an ear on the police scanner and an eye on everything else. -j

Optionryder420
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posted 03-17-2006 04:57

Okay guys, you're breaking into cars, not doing some huge ass heists. I'll give a few pointers though. First, think about it, it's 1am-4am on a weekday night, you have work tommorrow and need your rest. You hear a car door open and slam shut, are you going to immediatly wake up and assume your cars getting broken into? No. You're suddenly woken by a car alarm(and by suddenly, I mean it takes you 10-15 minutes to realize wtf is going on) do you immediatly assume it's yours? No, you think "God damn neighbors need to turn that shit off." If it takes a while to turn off, you decide it must be yours and head outside. You're sleeping and hear glass break, do you immediatly wake up thinking your car window just got broken? No, you most likely don't even wake up, and if you do, to you it's just some damn drunks throwing bottles at the ground. Trust me, the only way of really getting caught doing this is if a car pulls up on you robbing their neighbors house. Or if a cop drives by. Do wealthier neighborhoods that are more secluded. They'll have the most unlocked cars due to their sense of security. Also, those type of neighborhoods will have quite a few unlocked cars with keys and open garages. If a motion sensor light goes off, who the fuck cares? People don't wake up suddenly to a light going off, they'll roll over and go back to sleep. At the most, if a motion sensor light goes off, just walk away. Wear gloves, if it happens that you only steal cash all night, and someone called the cops, you can ditch the gloves and you'll have a good court case to a win at the worst... Best scenario they'll just let you go. Park your car at the entrance or close to it of the neighborhood. Start deep in the neighborhood and work your way back to your car. BUT! Don't park too far, running from the cops all night would not be fun. If a car drives by at any time, just leave. AND, don't take your gloves off in front of a car, just put your hands in your pockets and act like you're cold or something. Come on guys, like some of you even said, it's common sense. Making a lot of noise is not a big deal, you can make quite a lot of noise and go unnoticed... even then though, be careful.

ShakeDown
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posted 03-17-2006 05:23

the bb gun is kind of a good idea, it is quiet as hell hardly makes a shattering noise, i have never used it to car hop but i have shot windows out. the best way is to get somthing pointy and skinny becasue car windows are tempered, so it spiders and not shadders unless the force is concentrated. get one of thise deals with the poitny thing on it, a flash light, razor, and tire pressure gagues on it and use the pointy thing to break windows thats what its ment for and i have jacked about 20 of them. Hes right, people dont assume shits happening to them, so u can make noise. they will blame it on those damn racoons tipping the garbage over or maybe a deer in the back yard. it helps if you have had alittle to drink, not drunk but enough so ur alittle more crazy, you will do it alot better becasue u wont be tip toeing around. when somone drives by i usually just hop in the car and flip on a light and act like im grabbing somthing from it, they dont know its not ur car and if you just keep on with what ur doing it looks legit, if you shut the door and walk away that looks suspecious. i used to do this shit all the time we have it pretty much down to a science. We used to jack shit and sell it on ebay, if your gunna do that change ur address and shit and wait a month or two before you sell it unless they check. i jacked a navigation system worth a grand and the dollar signs clowded my vision and i listed it too soon. just be smart and u wont get fucked, we were pulling at least 5 grand every 1-2 months sometimes more. its harder to get caught then hide the money from ur parents bluefox
Regular posted 03-17-2006 06:01

When it comes to car shopping, my favorite technique involves a you and a driver. As the driver drives down the street, he stops at every car w/o a blinking light. You hop out and quickly check to see if its open or not. If not, then jump back into your drivers car. He drives to the next car on the street and you jump out again. As soon as you have tried ever car on that side of the street, the driver drives around and you attempt the other side of the street. The driver is crucial. Without him, you would be spending HOURS on foot walking around neighborhoods looking for open cars. It is exhausting. The driver also is on constant watch for any signs of nieghborhood activity, cops, people, etc. His job is to be alert of the surroundings so you dont have to. You can concentrate on pilphering the opened car without needing to sketch out about your surroundings. If something bad arises, he gives the quick signal and you are back in his car in 2 seconds as if nothing happened. Sorry if this is long winded, im quite baked right now. But seriously, the driver technique is GREAT for car shopping. Anything found is split 50/50, with loose car change going to the driver for gas money spent.

Experimental
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posted 03-17-2006 06:37

Along with bluefox's idea, if you DO get caught going and seeing if every car on a street is open or not, you can bullshit something about a school journalism report or an article for the paper you were working on as freelance, seeing how many people keep their cars unlocked at night. Security, awareness, neighborhood-friendly shit. Say that surveys wouldn't cut it, considering that people lie and the cold hard facts were needed. Anyway, have any of you ever been to/lived in Texas? I've been here my whole live in a number of neighborhoods/cities and everyone I know owns a gun. I've seen a light go off from a raccoon and a guy come outside yelling with a shotgun. There's always the possibility, moreso in some places than others, but don't get too cocky or used to this. If you become arrogant you WILL get fucked. If you see lights flip on anywhere in a house, get out of there. Not motion sensor lights, indoor lights. And no, I'm not a country hick/cowboy/any other generic texas redneck names you can think of. I live in a residential area but almost everyone here was raised with guns and we all hunt, if there is a theft the community protects itself. We don't even have alarm systems out here, but only one robbery has been commited in the past 5 or so years here. It's not because we don't have thiefs - trust me we do - but our dogs and people are more efficient than any alarm system. That brings up another point - every time our dog barks at something at night he gets let out. Good watch dog, he's caught someone watching our house from a forest across the street and someone walking behind our fenceline, not to mention countless animals. When you see a dog, hear a dog, or a door opening, get out of there or just go to the street and act like someone getting a jog. If the dog attacks you with no reason you can threaten you getting it put down, and that will silence the owners for sure. Optionryder420, I can only assume the worst and all preparations must be made. I don't know exact conditions of where he's shopping from, so I'm trying to cover all the bases. I'm sure you'd rather be prepared than in jail, yes? No offense either, a balance between both of our points along with all others in this topic must be made and custom tailored to any car shopping situation.

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Topic:

Siphoning gas

Chronic The Hedgehog
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posted 03-16-2006 20:31

I've decided that I am too good to pay for my gas from now on, I am also too good to suck on a hose to get gas, what I have decided is to buy one of these http://tinyurl. com/dpz37 and just stick the hose in someone's gas tank, fill up a jerry can and be on my way. I just thought I would post this so that you know there is a better way to get free gas then using your mouth as a pump. boozehound420
Regular posted 03-16-2006 23:19

i already have one, only use it for emergencies though, and when ever gas gets over 1.00$ a litre

Experimental
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posted 03-16-2006 23:22

I'll stick to my hose, thank you. Mouth's working fine, don't need to spend my money on that. Maybe when I get some extra cash and gas becomes a real fucker, I might get one of those. Good idea, but not for me right now. Chronic The Hedgehog
Regular quote: posted 03-17-2006 04:42

Originally posted by boozehound420: i already have one, only use it for emergencies though, and when ever gas gets over 1.00$ a litre

Did you have to make any mods to it to get it to work right, like could you remove that gas tank from the tube and pump? chubbyman25
Regular quote: posted 03-17-2006 06:53

Originally posted by boozehound420: i already have one, only use it for emergencies though, and when ever gas gets over 1.00$ a litre

Holy crap, that's almost $4 a gallon. I don't think I've ever seen it over $2.50 a gallon As far as syphoning, syphon pumps are really easy to get. Syphoning by mouth is about the stupidest idea ever. Experimental
Regular posted 03-17-2006 07:39

I might end up shelling out some cash for one or something, but not right now. No need at the moment.

driveby
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posted 03-17-2006 08:10

quote:

Originally posted by chubbyman25: [QUOTE]Originally posted by boozehound420: [b] I don't think I've ever seen it over $2.50 a gallon

It got over 3.00 a gallon where I live after Katrina. Chronic The Hedgehog
Regular posted 03-17-2006 15:28

I live in canada, we pay by the liter, and right now its at like 1.03 a liter, thats just too damn much. boozehound420
Regular posted 03-17-2006 21:28

ya i just cut the hose, the hose is the perfect size to fit down in it too, since its about the same size as the gas station pumps and ya gas is a bitch, here right now its 1.00 a litre in the city, 0.89 in the valley wich is retarded, we supply the US with half there oil, and the US needs more so were just giving all our oil to them, wich makes our prices go up. FUcken BULLLSHIT, my regal downs the fucken gas too, 20$ a day minimum jungle1
Regular posted 03-18-2006 04:37

Fuck Gas! Buy a hydrogen conversion from UnitedNuclear.com when they start sellin that shit! You're all tools. IPhantom
Regular posted 03-18-2006 06:35

i dont understand why syphoning gas would be considered a bad idea to begin with. I*Phantom

Equality 7-2521
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posted 03-18-2006 07:16

I'll go out on a limb in saying it's a bad idea because it's stealing. Anyone still use their mouth or is that out these days? Sebastian the Small
Regular quote: posted 03-18-2006 09:58

Originally posted by chubbyman25: [QUOTE]Originally posted by boozehound420: [b]i already have one, only use it for emergencies though, and when ever gas gets over 1.00$ a litre

Holy crap, that's almost $4 a gallon. I don't think I've ever seen it over $2.50 a gallon As far as syphoning, syphon pumps are really easy to get. Syphoning by mouth is about the stupidest idea ever.[/B][/QUOTE] Obviously your not from australia we havent been lower then $1.20 a liter in a long time *crys for our broke back pricing*

Canis_Major
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posted 03-18-2006 12:52

thats all very well but most cars have locks on the petrol tank... and $1 a litre? thtas cheap compared to over here, its £1 a litre in most places which is £1.75! Sk8erfreak986
Regular posted 03-18-2006 17:37

The united states has the cheapest gas prices in the world that's why we shouldn't be complaining... Insane Worm
Regular posted 03-18-2006 20:32

I was under the impression that most new cars have screens over the tank to prevent syphoning. fire_jade
Regular posted 03-18-2006 22:34

They do, these kids are all lying

300ZXZ31
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posted 03-18-2006 23:07

ha ha you yanks complaining about your fuel prices, in the uk I pay £1.08 for my fuel per litre. So thats like $2.00 a litre....

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Topic:

Confusing the cashier into giving you a dollar

APguy
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posted 03-18-2006 19:49

When you're getting change, and it's a whole number with an ammount of coins under 50 cents, give the cashier that ammount and she'll add up to 50 cents in order to give you a whole dollar. For example: Change----------3.25 You give the cashier a quarter She/he should get confused and give you $4 Profit! This works most of the time, especially with new cashiers. Jessica1610
Regular posted 03-18-2006 20:11

ooor you could go to the burger king in kingston NY order 15 dollars in food , hand the lady at the drive thru a 20 and get 15 dollars back. [This message has been edited by Jessica1610 (edited 03-18-2006).] 51 Cent
Regular quote: posted 03-19-2006 02:43

Originally posted by Jessica1610: ooor you could go to the burger king in kingston NY order 15 dollars in food , hand the lady at the drive thru a 20 and get 15 dollars back.

huh

killer in da shadowz12345
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posted 03-19-2006 03:20

i used to do this wehn i was like 12 or sumthin n i made about 200 bux total, now i jus bring a gun and demand they show me da money fabrication of the mind
Regular posted 03-19-2006 03:51

APguy, you’re such a hustler. Why would such a witty con man like you be dabbling in this small time business propaganda? ... Millixion
Regular posted 03-19-2006 04:48

Why would he give you an extra dollar? If he/she could simply do math, which, if I'm not mistaken, is a prerequisite to getting a cashier job, he/she should just give you the right ammount of change. joecaveman
Regular posted 03-19-2006 06:18

I work a cash register. That is ridiculous, NO ONE is going to get confused if you give them a quarter, you couldn't get a toddler to fall for that. I call bullshit, you haven't made any money from this. seekr
Regular posted 03-19-2006 17:54

That scam is old and cashiers/managers already know about it. If the cashier gets confused, they'll either close the drawer and call the manager, or just simply call the manager. carmine
Regular posted 03-19-2006 18:08

Buy something under $1, hand them a 20. Seem dissapointed at the mass amount of change, ask if you can exchange for a 10. Hand them a 5 and 4 ones AFTER they give you the 10. Tell them that your not sure if its enough, so they'd better count it. Sure enough, its not enuff, so you say, y'know what, i'll go with a 20, and hand them a 10 and a 1. Then, you walk out of the store 10 bucks richer, because you gave them a 10 dollar bill that was already theirs. I've made at least $500 doing this. carmine

TweEeKeR
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posted 03-19-2006 18:59

quote:

Originally posted by carmine: Buy something under $1, hand them a 20. Seem dissapointed at the mass amount of change, ask if you can exchange for a 10. Hand them a 5 and 4 ones AFTER they give you the 10. Tell them that your not sure if its enough, so they'd better count it. Sure enough, its not enuff, so you say, y'know what, i'll go with a 20, and hand them a 10 and a 1. Then, you walk out of the store 10 bucks richer, because you gave them a 10 dollar bill that was already theirs. I've made at least $500 doing this. carmine

Thats genius. [This message has been edited by TweEeKeR (edited 03-19-2006).] deathcultNBS
Regular posted 03-19-2006 19:14

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Jessica1610: [B]ooor you could go to the burger king in kingston NY order 15 dollars in food , hand the lady at the drive thru a 20 and get 15 dollars back. hey do you have AIM>? i was just at that burgerking yesturday. the one near barnes and nobles..

DeadlyAssassin
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posted 03-19-2006 22:45

quote:

Originally posted by Millixion: Why would he give you an extra dollar? If he/she could simply do math, which, if I'm not mistaken, is a prerequisite to getting a cashier job, he/she should just give you the right ammount of change.

Actually, most places do not make you take a math test because the computers do the math for oyu..... when its busy and you total it out an cash it then the customer says

oh i have change and hands you an additional quarter it is quite easy to mess up. Fate
Moderator quote: posted 03-19-2006 23:36

Originally posted by joecaveman: I work a cash register. That is ridiculous, NO ONE is going to get confused if you give them a quarter, you couldn't get a toddler to fall for that. I call bullshit, you haven't made any money from this.

You would be surprised. There are a lot of stupid motherfuckers who cannot make change and a lot of them can only land jobs either flipping burgers or ringing up burgers. I used to work in retail as a cashier, too. People would try to pull that jive shit on me and I'd call them out on it. But I worked with people who were so dumb that they would have fallen for it. It's the public school education at work. These kids cannot do math. I know, I got chewed up and spat out by the public school system along with everone else, and I didn't turn out too much more fucked up than I already was when I went in. But picture yours truly not a week ago, standing in the Arby's on business 30, purchasing his daily regimen of grease, salt, and cheese to the tune of 6.41 and handing the woman at the register seven dollars. This woman is normal by all outward appearances. Usual compliment of teeth and hair. Not wearing a crash helmet or knee pads. Looks like she can dress herself and tie her own shoes. Judging by the fob on her uniform belt loop, trusted by the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania to operate a motor vehicle on its public roads. She seems to be hemming and hawing a lot over the cash drawer. Looking at me sort of anxiously. Something's wrong. Aparently her Idiot Readout is broken - The computer hasn't told her how much change to give me. This woman cannot count out change. Which is in and of itself bad enough. I mean, I've known plenty of people who couldn't come up with the difference between 700 and 641 without having to work it out. Hell, I used to work with some pretty hopeless cases. But this! This takes the cake. She calls the manager over. The manager just kind of looks at us both funny. She puts her hands on her hips, she's squinting at the cash drawer and at the screen. What is this, did I hand her a three dollar bill? The manager can't make change, either. They're both doing that thing that people do when they're trying to figure out some insurmountable math problem without writing it out on a napkin. They're moving their lips silently, the cashier is still hovering over the cash drawer pensively like it's a box of live snakes; The manager is counting things out on her fingers. Finally, I give up.

"It's 59 cents," I mention. "Really?" "Yes, really. Look, just subtract 41 from 100, right?" "Oh. Uh, thanks." I should have told her it was eight bucks. She probably would have believed me. And in this case, I wasn't even trying. The both of them are lucky I was feeling honest. See, these are the sort of people it will work on. They can't count, they can't add, they can't subtract. If the display on the cash register isn't telling them exactly what to give you they stand there like a deer in headlights. And if they punch in the tender wrong! Well, suffice to say I've made a ten dollar profit (one to many zeroes on the keypad) many a time by various dolts who don't even notice the discrepency and figure "the computer is always right". The fact that they're giving me more than I gave them doesn't even seem to register. It's like their brains don't work and the numbers mean nothing. Incredible, really. black_light
Regular posted 03-20-2006 23:18

thanks to technology and lazyness i get to punch in what they give me and the computer tells me the change, amazing! and when ever people are like oh wait i think i have change i just tell them its too late. Big Floppy Titties
Regular quote: posted 03-21-2006 03:49

Topic: Confusing the cashier into giving you a dollar

Confusingb the cashier into taking a dollar is by far the most difficult.

Jessica1610
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posted 03-21-2006 18:07

quote:

Originally posted by deathcultNBS: [QUOTE]Originally posted by Jessica1610: [B]ooor you could go to the burger king in kingston NY order 15 dollars in food , hand the lady at the drive thru a 20 and get 15 dollars back. hey do you have AIM>? i was just at that burgerking yesturday. the one near barnes and nobles..

haha yea. Its ohsnapitsjenn126

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Topic:

stealing copper

sawed_off_pump
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posted 03-19-2006 16:28

what do you guys think about stealing an ass load of copper and taking it to the scrap metal place and selling it? i know where a trailor used to be in the woods and they moved it recently and havn't been back to get the pipes and things, but have them all layed out for the taking. Havoc737903
Regular posted 03-19-2006 18:24

My dad gets scrap copper wire from work sometimes and you can get good money for it. If they are to ask you at the scrap yard why you have copper, say your dads a pumber or something. It's good stuff if you can get a lot of copper. sawed_off_pump
Regular posted 03-20-2006 23:59

yeah i got $326 in my pocket right now. that was really lucrative. i still owe the rent though. im thinking of going around to construction sites and stealing the air conditioning copper pipes. i made way over $200 in less than a day. although some things i stole were brass and looked like copper, but i got 83 cents a pound for that too. i got $1.20 per pound for the copper, copper and brass i had about 210 pounds all together. im getting another pistol tommorrow it'll only cost $200. and i still have $20 of crack and a dog i can breed. i took some losses in the past weeks, but im still ahead and i still have plenty of guns and money. kids, crime pays! [This message has been edited by sawed_off_pump (edited 03-21-2006).]

Whiteboy5000
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posted 03-21-2006 00:36

quote:

Originally posted by sawed_off_pump: and a dog i can breed.

You like that, dont you?

Lynk
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posted 03-21-2006 01:39

quote:

Originally posted by sawed_off_pump: kids, crime pays!

Yep... Yo, not y\to go off topic but how did you killing the dealer end out? h0ppinlowrider
Regular posted 03-21-2006 01:44

OMG nigga your alive! Whats good man....Dont know much about stealing copper but on the show "The Wire" some crack heads do it and make some money. I was thinking about stealing/finding scrap metal and selling it but I cant find a place that takes it near me. Damn Nigga Your Alive! How did that thing work with the crack dealer? toker420
Regular posted 03-21-2006 02:00

damn dude post an update

justin1635
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posted 03-21-2006 02:30

http://www.totse.com/bbs/Forum7/HTML/018585.html Andreas
Regular posted 03-21-2006 06:01

What is copper, like 2 USD a lb? whiteymoza
Regular posted 03-23-2006 15:55

We were working on a shitty estate left the hot water cylinder outside (woth about £30) it was gone in 5mins at the same place I caught three chavs and an old man trying to steal the copper pipes from the tubes on top of the van. Cunts Fate
Moderator posted 03-23-2006 16:14

You'd be surprised how lucrative scrapping can be compared to a lot of the other scams and half-jobs you could be wasting your time doing. Favorites are copper and brass, which fetch a pretty high price per pound for raw metals. Aluminum also. We've also had guys trying to steal our 48x40 pallets, because they're worth 5 to 10 bucks a pop if you haul them to the right place. The auto shop behind our store had all kinds of problems with scrappers. They'd pull a motor (or part of one) from a car and set it aside to work on something, and a couple of times some fucker came right up in broad daylight, plain view, and tried to take the motor these poor guys were still working on. They also had a couple of cars stolen from their lot, though by defnition all cars that had something wrong with them. They also lost some rims and tires from parked cars. I imagine that stuff's got to be worth something to somebody, otherwise nobody would bother. When I left the store we'd pretty much scared off every scrapper in town both from our place and the neighboring auto shop, because both myself, the ownder of the store, and his son are gun toting lunatics and sooner or later everybody knew it. [This message has been edited by Fate (edited 03-23-2006).]

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Topic:

Easy way to make $$$$$$$$

boozehound420
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posted 03-22-2006 15:20

this is for the all you people who post "i need 100$ HELP ME" Every city must have multiple metal recycling plants like mine does, well BRING SOME FUCKEN METAL TO THEM right now im doing some work on a 10 million dollar house and they have piles of copper laying around left over from parts of the roof, I grabbed a fairly large armfull and threw it in my car, little did i know copper sells for 5000$US a tonn, i got 125$ for what i could carry in my arms. Plans are in work to take the entire pile wich would be worth atleast 5000$, problem is my dad has worked on and off for these people for 5 years, alont with my dads subtrade buddies, and they alll know about the copper the good thing about copper is its fucken heavy, if you can find a pile of the copper piping used for plumbing in a house that shit is fucken heavy, especially when there 15 feet long, im hoping to find a supply yard with alot of copper thats eazy to take stainless steele is also worth alot, i took in a stainless steele sink that was about to get thrown away and got 15$ for it, it was only a 1 sided one also but if you cant find any of the better metals just take in plain old steele, if you fill the box of a truck with steele its probly 500-1000$ worth, but ill stick with the copper [This message has been edited by boozehound420 (edited 03-22-2006).] Don Quixote
Regular posted 03-22-2006 16:24

Don't steal it from a metal yard, they'll put a call out and when you go to trade it in, even if they buy it, you're fucked. boozehound420
Regular posted 03-22-2006 18:04

how you figure, if i were to take say 500 pounds of copper piping, cut it into random sizes and take it in to the farthest metal recycling place from the spot where i got it what the fuck can they do first they dont care where the hell you got it from, and if they did ask you could just say my dads a plumber and wants me to clean out his van even if you were to steal a full tonn of copper, just trade it in slowly over amonth its not like there serial numbers on it or something Don Quixote
Regular posted 03-22-2006 18:13

I guess you could also trade in small amounts to a lot of different places.

eclipsed88
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posted 03-22-2006 19:14

titanium is worth a lot aswell, prices on it tripled just this year. but the only places you will find titanium are on BMX bike parts, space ships, and some motocross parts. Ozzy Osbourne
Regular quote: posted 03-22-2006 20:04

Originally posted by eclipsed88: titanium is worth a lot aswell, prices on it tripled just this year. but the only places you will find titanium are on BMX bike parts, space ships, and some motocross parts.

and spark plugs boozehound420
Regular posted 03-23-2006 04:03

ya titanium is worth a fucken shitload, i just mentioned copper cause its worth it for the amount of it you can find you can get platinum out of cadilac convertors, so if you can find a big ass pile of them in an auto recker or something and take them for free go for it, never know, a box full might be enough to make a ring Tech_AceSpades
Regular posted 03-23-2006 04:16

hmmm... i shud raid the local hardware store... ... yea... or break into sumones house and jack thier under-sink pluming... jk gadzooks
Regular posted 03-24-2006 06:24

Dude... you live in Surrey? Surrey, BC? boozehound420
Regular posted 03-24-2006 16:10

i live near surrey ya....

bluefox
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posted 03-24-2006 20:09

There was a thread on the money money money (MMM) board here at TOTSE about stealing Aluminum Ladders out of sheds and stuff, and taking them to the recycling plant. Im not sure why that thread wasnt in BI, but whatever. Unfortunatly, it only pays 60 cents per pound of aluminum, so it isnt as cost effective as copper tubing. Yannow, stealing from Lowes is mind-numbingly easy, and I was thinking maybe stealing some copper tubing from there would be easy money? Obviously you could only go for small sections of copper you could fit down your pants leg, but if you hit up 5 Lowes, it might be worth it. I dunno, im thinking out loud here. Fate
Moderator posted 03-24-2006 20:16

You have to factor in risk versus reward, not to mention how much gas you're going to burn going to different stores, stealing four bucks worth of copper, hauling it around, and then driving to the scrap yard. I think the most feasible way to do it would be to obtain a large haul from someplace all at once, but in most cases other people have laid claim to the copper before you. For instance, even if they're knocking down a house the contractors (or whomever) are probably just as keen on cashing that stuff in themselves as you are. They're not stupid, you know. Perhaps with luck (and a pickup truck, maybe a few friends) you could make off with a pallet of the stuff while it's being delivered or unloaded to somewhere, or if it happens to sit idle at a construction site or similar. Stealing large quantities from a store obviously isn't going to work, because making off with one ten foot section of pipe is tough enough, let alone a whole pile of them. An interesting proposal, though, would be to back a truck up to the loading dock of a Home Depot or similar, get a couple of guys in contractor looking gear (fake uniforms with a fake company name would be an interesting proposition) and with the aid of a fake work order and receipt and some real brass ones, load up a quantity of the stuff as if you bought it. When we were young and unemployed, a few friends and I made some quick cash scrapping railroad spikes. Nowadays that would probably get you in trouble, but back then we enjoyed warm, idylic summers where people didn't stick their noses into your business and Columbine and 9/11 hadn't happened yet to cast suspicion on everybody. Anyway, steel is worth about 35 cents a pound these days and we made maybe 20 back then. Figure each railroad spike is worth about a quarter and you've got at least something. The railroad tracks near us were a quadruple line, and as they repaired things the crews would tend to just leave the old materials there. It was common to find piles of hundreds of railroad spikes (remember that there are usually four on each side of each tie) just lying there for the taking. We also nicked and cashed in those plates that the rails sit in, the big auger screws that hold down the electrical lines, and even felled (and disconnected!) chunks of the copper electrical line itself. Other scrappable metals are aluminum, zinc, brass, tin, and even plain iron. [This message has been edited by Fate (edited 03-24-2006).]

bluefox
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posted 03-24-2006 21:07

Good point. Nix the stealing the metal from Lowes idea lol. As you hinted Fate, the railroad idea would be much more difficult to pull off post columbine/911. If someone saw me lifting up railroad spikes, it would be easy for them to assume I was attempting to sabatoge the rails and derail the train. Now obviously just finding a area of railroad track with no people around is easy...but it might not be worth the effort for 25cents/spike. If I had a LARGE truck, I would concider snatching pallets from behind stores. Recycling plants give $1.50 per pallet according to that thread I referenced earlier. Pallets are easy enough to find, go behind walmart and there are 10-20 old pallets just lying there. Problem is the size of them. If anyone has a large truck, you might wanna concider doing this. Still though, pallets are fucking huge and might not be worth the effort. Im trying to think of places that would have scraps of valuable metal. There is a National Welders warehouse nearbye my house. I might go DDing around that place. Obviously constructions sites are hit and miss. You might find some good quantities of metal...but you always have to contend with surrounding buildings and people hearing your activities. Hauling metal, no matter what kind, out of a dumpster into a truck bed or car is going to make ALOT of noise and arrise suspicion.

Fate
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posted 03-24-2006 21:54

Well, we weren't pulling up spikes and metalwork that was in use. Just the stuff that was lying around. But it was a lot of work for not much money. A minimum wage job would probably be more profitable; Steel is heavy and doesn't pay much by the pound. But it's better than nothing. If you're getting paid 1.50 each for pallets you're getting ripped. The place my old boss took them to gave him 5 bucks a pop, if I recall, and I've heard of higher. But I imagine it varies. Note that the only pallets you'll be able to sell are the 48x40 4-ways (say it ten times fast) which are the 'standard' resuable pallet and are identifiable by the fact that they measure 48x40 and have cutouts in the side supports that allow a forklift to pick them up from all four directions. Any other pallet is as we affectionately refer to them, a shit pallet. They're good for firewood or maybe a one way trip for some cargo. But nobody will buy them, because they're usually flimisier and manufacturers make them however they please, which means they're all different shapes and sizes, weight ratings, and a mismatched batch of them will never stack right.

acid_drop
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posted 03-24-2006 22:52

So how many of those pallets do you think I can get in the back of my bro's Chevy with the long bed? They wouldn't lay straight so I'd have to lay them at an angle in the bed, up against the side. Also where would accept them? This pallate idea is a very good one if you have the means to move them I'd assume. gadzooks
Regular quote: posted 03-24-2006 23:02

Originally posted by boozehound420: i live near surrey ya....

Where are the metal recycling plants around here? Are they in the phonebook? How did you find them? BobDude
Regular posted 03-24-2006 23:09

One of my friends told me about house stripping. If you know a house is abandoned or going to be knocked down, raid it and grab all the metal you can. He has made tons of money doing this. Imagine knowing an office building is going to be knocked down in a week, and they usually won't remove the copper that is in the cellings for pipes. Just go in, tear the place up, and make a few hundred dollars. I also just remembered, there are dumpsters where TONS of scrap metal are dumped, as there is tons of construction scrap metal. My mom owns a company that provides containers for people who need to dispose of organic or metal waste, and they hold about 5 tons. Just jack some metal in the container and profit. ~BobDude

Fate
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posted 03-24-2006 23:17

quote:

Originally posted by acid_drop: So how many of those pallets do you think I can get in the back of my bro's Chevy with the long bed? They wouldn't lay straight so I'd have to lay them at an angle in the bed, up against the side. Also where would accept them? This pallate idea is a very good one if you have the means to move them I'd assume.

The boss has a Ford F250, I think, and it's got a toolbox across the front of the bed. If you stick the pallets in lengthwise, so to speak, with the shorter 40" side facing the cab they fit between the wheel wells. What we did was gather up a stack of about fifteen with the forklift and make sure we got 'em as straight as we could. Then we'd load one stack as far as the forklift could load it into the bed. Then we'd take a second stack of the same size, and use it to push the first stack to the front of the bed. With the tailgate down two stacks would fit with part of the second resting on the tailgate. If we took the toolbox off we could probably fit two stacks in and close the gate. We never went much higher than twenty or so because it starts getting pretty precarious. Anyway, to keep the things from flying away we used ratcheting tie down straps to secure both stacks. Drive carefully when you have a fuckton of pallets on your truck, because if you lose that load and you peg somebody's car you'll probably be liable.

acid_drop
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posted 03-24-2006 23:38

I assume they are light enough for two guys to lift? Me and a friend could manage it, i mean it's just wood right? We'd have to load one by one, but no big deal. sweepingjaguar
Regular posted 03-25-2006 02:04

What is a pallet?

Fate
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posted 03-25-2006 03:18

A pallet is the square wooden thing made of boards that cargo comes on, as in the thing that enables a stack of whatever to be picked up with a forklift. Not a native English speaker? A 48x40 probably weighs about 25-35 pounds, empty. Anybody who isn't a total wuss can pick one up. I used to toss those things around three at a time, and I'm a pencil necked geek who gets sand kicked in his face by burly guys at the beach. You shouldn't have much problem. It's faster with a forklift, but it's one of the perks of doing it legitimately. [This message has been edited by Fate (edited 03-25-2006).] spazz
Regular posted 03-25-2006 03:25

yes they are light. one guy could pick one up

boozehound420
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posted 03-25-2006 19:02

im really fucked up right now, but you guys missed my point, fuck the pallets, here the hindus pay 2.50 a pallet no matter what but thers the orange painted ones that get you 8.00 each but you have to have proof that you were the guy who took them the copper idea is just a thought if you ever see a pile laying somewhere, after about a year the copper is not shiny anymore, it goes a dark brown, then even longer it will turn green just keep you eyes open Peter_Griffin
Regular posted 03-25-2006 21:17

stainles steel is worth way more, ever had to buy a SS butterfly nut? $1.39 for a piece of metal no bigger than a quarter Golden Ferrinkaweasle
Regular quote: posted 03-26-2006 01:31

Originally posted by Tech_AceSpades: hmmm... i shud raid the local hardware store... ... yea... or break into sumones house and jack thier under-sink pluming... jk

If your gonna break into someone's house, go for the good stuff not the plumbing you stupid cock sucker FRESH
Regular quote: posted 03-26-2006 01:45

Originally posted by eclipsed88: titanium is worth a lot aswell, prices on it tripled just this year. but the only places you will find titanium are on BMX bike parts, space ships, and some motocross parts.

What parts of the BXM bike. I have one and i quit riding plus some fatass rode my bike and popped the wheel. acid_drop
Regular quote: posted 03-26-2006 06:25

Originally posted by FRESH: What parts of the BXM bike. I have one and i quit riding plus some fatass rode my bike and popped the wheel.

Unless you were serious about the sport and put in a good 800+ in your bike you have nothing but a piece of aluminum under you. Don Quixote
Regular posted 03-26-2006 15:40

Just a note about taking metal from railways. We loaded some train track (that stuff is so very heavy) into the back of a friends' ute a few months ago to use to build a frame for his block and tackle... by the time we had it roped down, a cop car was heading down the hill towards us, screaming over their microphone to drop our weapons. Not actually having any weapons, and knowing this couldn't end well, we hopped into the ute and took off with what speed the ute could still manage, weighed down like that. We got away only because we knew the bush tracks decently. Everything is a terrorist threat these days. Word to the wise - keep away from train tracks visible from the road, learn your way around as much land as you can, and buy a four wheel drive. The frame works fine, by the way.

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Slim Jim Thread

Tokolosh
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posted 03-28-2006 18:30

I’m going to update this thread when I can with things like new pictures and video’s. What’s a Slim Jim? It looks like this: http://tinyurl.com/qdh5n It’s used to lift, or sometimes, push the lock in the car door to open it. This is achieved by inserting the Slim Jim between the car door window and the weather stripping. If the car hasn’t got a rubber weather stripping, or you just don’t want to cut it, a wedge should be used to create a suitable enough gap to slip it down there. When I bought my Slim Jim I got a little booklet with it, so I thought I'd scan it to show you it. Slim Jim's are not hard to obtain, all you need is a debit card and you can get them online. If you're from the UK, you can get them from sites like; http://www.topsecretmagic. co.uk/lockpicks.html If all else fails, you can always make one for yourself. Just get yourself a sturdy metal, coat hanger. Anyway, here's the file, hope it helps. http://tinyurl.com/h4onx (Sorry for the sloppy scanning Further Info Extracts from “Scuzzy-elo's - Bypassing Car Locks” Guide:
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Procedure 1 Slide the slim jim down between the weather stripping of the car and the window at about a 105 degree angle with the hooked bottom pointing toward the keyhole. http://free.hostdepartment.com/s/scuzzyelo/slim2.jpg http://free.hostdepartment.com/s/scuzzyelo/slim3.jpg Lower it down until only the handle is sticking out and slide it over toward the lock until you hit an obstruction. Keep the slim jim pressed against the obstruction and slide it up until the hook grasps the obstruction. http://free.hostdepartment.com/s/scuzzyelo/slim4.jpg

Pull up firmly on it and the door will unlock. Notes I don't think this will work on sliding locks however, there are other ways to open a door with sliding locks. (i.e. the wonder tool)

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Procedure 3 This is one of the easiest methods. Some people leave their windows cracked a little so that their car doesn't get hot. Hold your slim jim firmly in one hand, so as not to drop it inside, and slide your hand into the cracked window. Angle the slim jim toward the lock button and maneuver it with one of the techniques mentioned in procedure 2. http://free.hostdepartment.com/s/scuzzyelo/jim1.jpg http://free.hostdepartment.com/s/scuzzyelo/jim2.jpg Notes If you think your hand will get stuck in the crack, grab onto the edge with both hands and pull down on it a bit. It won't come down much further but just enough for you to get your hand in.

P.S. DizzIe just recently e-mailed me that he's edited some of the text to bring the file size down for our beloved 56k users. Link at: http://tinyurl.com/msd32 Side Note: DizzIe's also compiled a guide on scanning, so check that out: http://tinyurl.com/ kmjgn Whilst on the subject, we'd very much appreciate it from any user to do a nice bit of a scanning here and there from any guides/pages/booklets/books/etc that you may have that will help the BI forums. Thanks.

TroyMcClure
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posted 03-28-2006 20:22

quote:

Originally posted by Tokolosh:

you're goin down, motherfucka! Docta?
Regular posted 03-28-2006 21:07

Hi Tokk, remember me?! So the majority of us know what little we need to know about slim jims. With the security market these days, with road vehicles in mind, arent these little devices antient history? For example, what cars released in the past two years can be broke into using a slim jim? Fate
Moderator posted 03-28-2006 21:11

My wager would be most of them. Now, setting off the alarm is a different story. But for the hypothetical of locking your keys in your car (say) you could just get 'em off the seat and shut the thing up. bully42001
Regular posted 03-29-2006 00:27

Snap into a slim jim ohh yeah niteopsninja
Regular quote: posted 03-29-2006 00:46

Originally posted by bully42001: Snap into a slim jim ohh yeah

HAHAHAHHAHA Damit! that gave me a smile

VegetaRobGT
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posted 03-29-2006 05:22

Slim Jims are yummy. Don Quixote
Regular posted 03-29-2006 05:36

More details on making one from a coathanger? IE, what a finished coathanger one will look like. Loc Dogg
Regular quote: posted 03-29-2006 07:20

Originally posted by Docta?: Hi Tokk, remember me?! So the majority of us know what little we need to know about slim jims. With the security market these days, with road vehicles in mind, arent these little devices antient history? For example, what cars released in the past two years can be broke into using a slim jim?

You must be on crack. You're telling me that EVERY car in the world is brand fucking new? Fuck no. This would be great in my country. I want a Slim Jim. Cheers, ToKo. S510
Regular posted 03-29-2006 07:26

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Docta?
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posted 03-29-2006 17:37

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Originally posted by Loc Dogg: You're telling me that EVERY car in the world is brand fucking new?

Joyriding has never been my thing, and I fail to see the point of stealing an old car...

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wuts a really easy ass way to get like $100 in a week?

th3dud3
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posted 03-19-2006 21:04

i need about $100 like in a weeks time, anyone know a REALLY EASY way to get some money? but no fuckin vending machine scam bullshit or anything like that 10 elevenths
Regular posted 03-19-2006 21:07

Why do so many people think that there is a super easy way to make a lot of money? I really dont get it. Sell drugs, or steal it. Neither is especially easy, as it entails risk. Otherwise get a job. davetolomy
Regular posted 03-19-2006 21:19

There are so many ways to make easy money. You just need to research and practice at home. Here's a short con for you. If you hit ten different cafe's for 7 days you should get loads. The "Free Money" con: Look for someone sitting on their own at a cafe table with a wallet or phone at the table. Now bend down to tie your laces about 3 metres away. Whilst your down there slide a coin of a high vaule under the table. Now double back and walk past them. As you go past say: "Hey mate there's some money there" They'll see it and bend under the table to get it. Quickly take the item and pocket You should do it quickly enough so you hardly stop moving Andreas
Regular quote: posted 03-19-2006 21:35

Originally posted by davetolomy: There are so many ways to make easy money. You just need to research and practice at home. Here's a short con for you. If you hit ten different cafe's for 7 days you should get loads. The "Free Money" con: Look for someone sitting on their

own at a cafe table with a wallet or phone at the table. Now bend down to tie your laces about 3 metres away. Whilst your down there slide a coin of a high vaule under the table. Now double back and walk past them. As you go past say: "Hey mate there's some money there" They'll see it and bend under the table to get it. Quickly take the item and pocket You should do it quickly enough so you hardly stop moving

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w33dmastr
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posted 03-21-2006 01:41

Another really easy one to do is fencing off your goods from shoplifting if you are in highschool. Steal some JD or high-cost bottles of Cough syrup such as Delsym or a lot of other kinds and sell it on the cheap side. JD can be worth $10-20 to highschoolers easy, so five bottles or so is enough to make $100. Tarnak
Regular quote: posted 03-21-2006 04:22

Originally posted by 10 elevenths: Why do so many people think that there is a super easy way to make a lot of money? I really dont get it. Sell drugs, or steal it. Neither is especially easy, as it entails risk. Otherwise get a job.

He can't get a job or make money selling drugs in just one week from ground 0. Run up to someone, hit them until they fall over, take their wallet, run. Repeat until you have $100.

mikemayberry
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posted 03-21-2006 04:49

sell your blood plasma twice.

draco237
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posted 03-21-2006 05:27

collect cans on the street like the bum u truely are Loc Dogg
Regular quote: posted 03-21-2006 05:43

Originally posted by Tarnak: Run up to someone, hit them until they fall over, take their wallet, run. Repeat until you have $100.

Yeah. Or you can wait in the shadows near an ATM and wit for someone to take out cash, run up, bust their head in with a pipe and take the cash. Wear a mask so the camera don't catch you. Risk
Regular quote: posted 03-21-2006 08:00

Originally posted by Tarnak: get a job

Adrenochrome
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posted 03-21-2006 08:17

Selling child porn on TOTSE. Azankenn
Regular quote: posted 03-21-2006 08:20

Originally posted by mikemayberry: sell your blood plasma twice.

I hear sperm goes for quite a bit too

Jayo
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posted 03-21-2006 13:03

in the uk there is a program on the bbc called "Hustle". Last friday had loads of small cons, including the money under the table beast. but they are fictitious characters that are fictitious professionals. but got alot of good ideas. pyrozarc
Regular quote: posted 03-21-2006 14:27

Originally posted by Jayo: in the uk there is a program on the bbc called "Hustle". Last friday had loads of small cons, including the money under the table beast. but they are fictitious characters that are fictitious professionals. but got alot of good ideas.

Yeah that program fucking owns. Also if you're in the UK, there is another program at 10.30pm on Thursday called "The real hustle", which shows a lot of short cons. Its on BBC3. Both of the shows are useful for learning stuff like that. Does anyone know any links to pages with details on short cons? rogueop
Regular posted 03-21-2006 15:19

A sperm/plasma donation plan would almost surely get you at least $100 for the first week. Subsequent plasma donations are not rewarded quite as much, but I'm not sure about sperm. Or you could sell coke.

Niggers_With_Attitude
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posted 03-21-2006 16:07

i think they give you $60 a pop for plasma "donations" but you can only do it once or twice a week and you can't smoke weed Charlie Lucky
Regular posted 03-21-2006 16:39

Work for me

Criminal Money
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posted 03-21-2006 16:57

Break into about 100 cars a night for a week and trust me you'll get loads. You can get from a couple of quid change to a high-tech laptop. Or you could stake out somebody's house for about five days, wait till you know they out and the house is completely empty. Then, if you a locksmith, pick they lock and steal they stuff. Or just break down the door and nick they stuff, leave no trace to you. If you worried that you left a trace just move a couple thousand miles away lol. That's a basic draft of B&E. Have fun! Deep
Regular quote: posted 03-21-2006 17:17

Originally posted by davetolomy: There are so many ways to make easy money. You just need to research and practice at home. Here's a short con for you. If you hit ten different cafe's for 7 days you should get loads. The "Free Money" con: Look for someone sitting on their own at a cafe table with a wallet or phone at the table. Now bend down to tie your laces about 3 metres away. Whilst your down there slide a coin of a high vaule under the table. Now double back and walk past them. As you go past say: "Hey mate there's some money there" They'll see it and bend under the table to get it. Quickly take the item and pocket You should do it quickly enough so you hardly stop moving

never work there are other people around in the cafe, video cameras the people that work there, no way would one of those not see you take the wallet

davetolomy
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posted 03-21-2006 21:55

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never work there are other people around in the cafe, video cameras the people that work there, no way would one of those not see you take the wallet

God your a fucking idiot. Other people don't watch a complete stranger. The pick up takes two seconds. People that work there don't stand watching customers and you wouldn't pick a place with camera. It's misdirection and it fucking works. Spinsta
Regular posted 03-21-2006 23:11

Mow lawns, shovel snow, go do some work for people. Payday Loan? BlackAbstract919
Regular posted 03-22-2006 00:35

Steal large amounts of candy (Sam's Club amounts) and sell them at a (non) fixed price in each class and during lunch. SIDENOTe - Doing this is illegal and you can get in trobule for it DEADBEATDAD
Regular posted 03-22-2006 00:38

Boost cars. SpeakSoSoftly
Regular posted 03-22-2006 08:22

get a part time job? working 20 hours a week can bring in $150 very easy. Unregistered
Regular posted 03-22-2006 12:21

Rob a convenience store, take the money home, return any excess money obtained (optional)

S510
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posted 03-22-2006 12:28

http://tinyurl.com/e4upr Silver Cold
Regular quote: posted 03-22-2006 17:11

Originally posted by Criminal Money: Break into about 100 cars a night for a week and trust me you'll get loads. You can get from a couple of quid change to a high-tech laptop. Or you could stake out somebody's house for about five days, wait till you know they out and the house is completely empty. Then, if you a locksmith, pick they lock and steal they stuff. Or just break down the door and nick they stuff, leave no trace to you. If you worried that you left a trace just move a couple thousand miles away lol. That's a basic draft of B&E. Have fun!

100 cars a night, unless he is the fucking flash that sounds a little imposible, And if he needs a $100 in one week i dont think he is a locksmith.. and you dont have to be a lock smith to know how to pick a lock. and if you beak down there door how is that not leaving any trace of you and if your stealling there stuff ofcourse there going to know you were there..... i rest my case [This message has been edited by Silver Cold (edited 03-22-2006).] Omnis99
Regular posted 03-22-2006 19:25

depends on how much heart you got man.the mugging idea is extreme but if you really need it then you really need it.how about you find a bank that has a deposit slot that is away from main view.ride a bike up to it or walk wearing a beanie and some glasses.slide a bag in the slot and tape it on the inside.wait till 4 or 5 in the morn and get the bag out.there will prob be money in there.if you are lucky..alot.but dont forget those cameras!

niggersexual
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posted 03-23-2006 02:08

If you don't need the money right away, working is the easiest solution. If people are going to break your legs by saturday, then contact a disciplinary official or follow them around and place banana peels by them so they slip and break their own legs. Joebob
Regular posted 03-23-2006 02:25

Well, at my school the vending machines are 65 cents for a can of whatever. So you put in a dollar, you get 35 cents. I figured, that's pretty good stuff so I ripped off the toll way scam and whenever I am in need of a extra few bucks, I'll stuff some kleenex in the coin slots and come back a day or two later. My school has cameras not that far away from the machines so I try to make it look as if I bought a pop and am bending down to get my change. Dunno if this has already been posted or what edit: Oh...no vending machine scams..didn't read that part, guess I'll keep this up [This message has been edited by Joebob (edited 03-23-2006).] handgernade14
Regular posted 03-27-2006 01:16

go to a near YMCA just go to the pool lockers either pick locks or do it with a shim and also check the lockess occupied lockers my friend got 60$ in one day doing this also w/ a cell phone jewlery and a shirt he liked psychedelicist
Regular posted 03-27-2006 01:44

Something my friend and I thought up a while back while we were a bit stoned. Buy a roll of those cheap ass raffle tickets, 100 tickets go for maybe $5 at most (but we still haven't managed to find somewhere that sells them). Go door to door in a city a few miles from your own, say you're from some church holding a raffle to raise funds for a mission trip. You can sell them for $2-3 a ticket, give them the address of some building to go to a week from now where the supposed raffle will be held. 100 raffle tickets at $2-3 is $200300, and you can usually do it within an afternoon or 2. Not only do you make money, you can sit and watch 50-100 people milling around in some parking lot wondering what the hell is going on. Or, you can play it smarter and give different addresses/dates/times to everyone, because if they all meet at once they'll realize they got ripped off big time and will more than likely call the police. Or, siphon people's gas and sell it to your friends at 1/2 the price. It takes a bit longer, and you might need to buy a few more gas cans to hold all the gas (they aren't that cheap). Don't use a siphon pump, they don't work worth shit, many times they don't even reach the car's gas tank, just stick with a hose and try not to get gas in your mouth. Also, try to go for older cars, especially old beat up cars like station wagons, they're less likely to have alarms on the

gas cap (regular car alarms don't often come with these, but they're fairly cheap to add onto your car, so go for the people who have shit cars). Mugging/robbery is effective if you don't mind possibly harming others. I wouldn't, but it's easier than the other methods. Sell crushed up BC powder to idiots as cocaine, they can give you a head rush, so someone who's never done coke before might just be fooled into believing that it's coke. Don't sell it to cokeheads though, unless you want your ass beat. I haven't bought coke before but I think around here it's about $100 a gram, so selling one gram of BC powder can easily get you what you need, you could probably sell it for more since these people also don't know how much coke sells for. I've been thinking the same thing recently, my chacking account has a -$150 account because some asshole drained it of the $3000 odd dollars in it. I don't have a job, and my parents don't know I had 3k in my account so I can't let them know, I'm running on empty and got no spare change so I've been racking my brain trying to think of what can be done. This is all I've come up with so far. So I might be fucked. I wouldnb't rule out vending machine scams though, sometimes they actually work. 51 Cent
Regular quote: posted 03-27-2006 02:03

I've been thinking the same thing recently, my chacking account has a -$150 account because some asshole drained it of the $3000 odd dollars in it.[/B]

Damn that sucks.. did you let someone else in on the account info? Or what happened? psychedelicist
Regular quote: posted 03-27-2006 02:31

Originally posted by 51 Cent: Damn that sucks.. did you let someone else in on the account info? Or what happened?

Some kind of ATM fraud, actually probably the same kind I used to pull. There's a file on it in BI. I don't know how he could have gotten my signature, account number, or some of the other stuff, but he ended up draining the account over the course of a week (spring break week, cause I left my atm card at home so it wouldn't get stolen, so I had no idea how much money was in my account).

Fuckin karma chose a great time to bite me in the ass. nicemarmot
Regular posted 03-27-2006 05:37

Body parts. MasterPython
Regular posted 03-27-2006 06:16

You could whore yourself out to a fat chick for 100 dollars. Supra_09
Regular posted 03-27-2006 06:38

Go around a rich neighborhood with a paper saying you are fundraising for a school trip you are going on to Washington DC (If you live there make it somewhere else) and have a forged signature on it like that of an adult teacher, and go to about 20 houses when the doctors, lawyers, and people are home, and in no time you'll make over $100. I've tried it and it worked... Its worth a try anyways crackhead
Regular quote: posted 03-27-2006 18:16

Originally posted by th3dud3: i need about $100 like in a weeks time, anyone know a REALLY EASY way to get some money? but no fuckin vending machine scam bullshit or anything like that

Get a J-O-B! Admiral Lanno
Regular quote: posted 03-27-2006 21:15

Originally posted by Silver Cold: 100 cars a night, unless he is the fucking flash that sounds a little imposible, And if he needs a $100 in one week i dont think he is a locksmith.. and you dont have to be a lock smith to know how to pick a lock. and if you beak down there door how is that not leaving any trace of you and if your stealling there stuff ofcourse there going to know you were there..... i rest my case

STFU idiot. People do it all the time, I think they call it a car run. You run through the suburbs from one car to the next, opening car doors that people forgot to lock, grab money from all of the change holders/glove compartments. People leave a lot of money in their cars for toll roads and such, if you hit my car right now, you'd get at least 3 bucks. (you'd also get a birdshot up your ass so don't think about it)Don't bother taking cell phones, I imagine they're a pain to sell. 60 cars an hour is quite feasible. If you see nice looking sunglasses or a laptop or something you can take those as well.

landfill
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posted 03-28-2006 20:37

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Originally posted by davetolomy: The "Free Money" con: Look for someone sitting on their own at a cafe table with a wallet or phone at the table. Now bend down to tie your laces about 3 metres away. Whilst your down there slide a coin of a high vaule under the table. Now double back and walk past them. As you go past say: "Hey mate there's some money there" They'll see it and bend under the table to get it. Quickly take the item and pocket You should do it quickly enough so you hardly stop moving

Anybody who watches 'Hustle' knows about this one, so it's a bit risky. Havoc737903
Regular posted 03-28-2006 23:40

I know an easy way to make $100 in a week. It's called a job. Get one. I've got one. I work 3 days a week, 4 hours a day, and I make $100 every week.

Sioux-Reborn
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posted 03-29-2006 11:32

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Originally posted by MasterPython: You could whore yourself out to a really fat chick for 100 dollars.

Or 100 not-so-fat chicks for $1 a piece. Edit: Scratch that, 100 MEN for $1 a piece. [This message has been edited by Sioux-Reborn (edited 03-29-2006).] mayor of monkey town posted 03-29-2006 13:39
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Suck the dick. Old gay guys would pay a young'n like you plenty to take some of the cock. If you think your hard, then rob the guy who hires you to suck his dick.

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Impressioning

Immortalis Devoto
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posted 03-23-2006 21:39

Ive become handy with picks and pickpocketing keys but im ready to atempt to impression keys now. The only way i know of is to Smoke a blank key with soot from a candle then insert the blank turn left then right with a pair of plyiers then cut it down to size but i wanted to know if any one else had any ideas. Fate
Moderator posted 03-24-2006 13:29

I don't get it. What's the above supposed to do? When I impressioned keys I made a two part mould out of water putty (available at a hardware store near you) doped with a little corn starch to keep the two halves from sticking together. Poked two holes in the mould while it was still wet, one to pour the metal into and one to let the air out as I did. When it dries, water putty is pretty damn heatproof. I used to use it for solid fuel rocket engine nozzles and it would hold its structure. Anyway, we had buckets of brass shavings from cutting keys, so we'd take a cast iron spoon rest (bought it from some country general store) that had a pour spout on it, melt some brass shavings in it with a MAPP torch, and pour them into the mould. The reslting key usually needed finish work to get the mould sprue off of it and smooth it down a little. We recommended that the customer bring the lock in if they could so we could test the key and do any finishing work with a needle file if we had

to. Did wonders on duplicating most keys with blanks that are impossible to find, and also some security keys that had various oddities like an extra set of teeth cut into the side. Optionryder420
Regular posted 03-24-2006 14:34

Yeah, I don't get what he's saying either... I never tried making any keys, but always thought the best way would be how you mentioned... Of course, I'd use epoxy+filler because that's just more easily available to me. Fate
Moderator posted 03-24-2006 14:46

Watch getting your mould and your material stuck together that way, though. Optionryder420
Regular posted 03-24-2006 15:57

Pam or wax paper. I've made fin female molds out of modeling clay. Immortalis Devoto
Regular posted 03-24-2006 21:40

Look i dont know about that method of the candle, i have never tried its just something i have read about didnt sound like it would work to me any way , the mould thing is good tho ill have 2 try it. Although where am i going 2 get brass shavings from? Fate
Moderator posted 03-24-2006 21:49

Well, you don't need brass shavings per se. What you need is brass in general. You could also use zinc or anything else easily castable. Lead is a bad idea; too soft. Various coins are made of brass, and it's probably not much of a stretch to get (or filch) some brass plumbing fittings or similar for raw materials. The shavings will be easier to melt than a solid chunk of whatever, though, with the higher surface area and smaller particle size. I used brass shavings because at the hardware store we had bucketfulls of them, and regular key blanks are made of brass. I figured if we had the stuff and it was free and would work, why buck the trend? If you want to use zinc, post 1963 pennies (IIRC, I may have the date wrong) are copper clad zinc. You can melt them with an ordinary propane torch. If you want to test a penny for zinc content, just hold it on the top edge of your index finger and flick

it into the air with your thumb (which is how I flip coins, I don't know about you). If it rings the penny is made of copper through and through. If it goes "tink" but doesn't ring it's zinc. Immortalis Devoto
Regular posted 03-24-2006 22:00

Okay this is probably a stupid question but where can i get ahold of a MAPP torch? xap
Regular posted 03-25-2006 09:50

What he means is, if you cover a key blank in soot (or "smoke" it black over the tip of a lighter's flame), when you rock it back and forth in the lock the pins will scratch out the soot on the blank, making it easier to see where to file down. I tried this method again not three weeks ago, and it truly doth sucketh the big rocks. Wooo...yeah. Impressioning takes a *long* time to learn, man. Even the good instructional videos out there for it leave you feeling like, "What? What the heck is he looking at on that key that he knows where to file???" The marks left by the pins are dang hard to see and interpret. Even smoking a blank is not really reliable, and it leaves a lot of dirty junk inside the lock, fouling up the pins. Picking is a lot easier to learn, takes less time to open the door, and if you can take the lock off after, you can always remove the pins, measure them and make a key later off the measurements. As for casting keys - you can get a "Clam Kit" for $55 from Lockmasters.com that does those same things, or just buy the low-melting-point alloy for $18, I think. [This message has been edited by xap (edited 03-25-2006).] Fate
Moderator posted 03-25-2006 12:39

What the devil is smoking the blank doing to do for you in the first place? Yes, it may tell you how far down the key each tooth should be, approximately. It will not tell you how tall each tooth needs to be. If you insert a blank into a properly keyed lock it will push all the pins up all the way and accomplish nothing. If you insert a blank into an improperly keyed lock, one of the pins will be too long and won't have enough play, and will hit the top of the cylinder and your blank key won't go in all the way. black_light
Regular posted 03-25-2006 17:35

i think he is talking about holding the key he wants to dupe against a blank, getting sut(sp?) from a candle all over it then when he removes the key there will be a sut outline of the teeth on the key blank which he can then cut down but youd probably fuck up and hit the sut by accident.

Fate
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posted 03-25-2006 19:31

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...The only way i know of is to Smoke a blank key with soot from a candle then insert the blank turn left then right with a pair of plyier...

Then I must have been confused by the utter non-sequitur. If you want to cut a copy of the thing, lay the keys on each other and use a quick blast of spraypaint to mask off the original key aginst the blank. What you do about the paint on the original is your problem. Can't you just take the thing to a hardware store and get a copy made if you want one so badly? xap
Regular posted 03-25-2006 22:32

Eris preserve us...*no*. Smoking a blank is not used for outlining a key. You hold a key blank over the very tip of the lighter's flame until the metal turns black. You insert the key into the lock holding it in vice grips. You turn it gently to the right as far as the locked cylinder will permit, and rock it up and down. You turn it to the left, and rock it up and down. You then carefully remove the key and look for where the pins have scratched away the black on the metal. You then file down in those spots, one cut depth at a time. You re-blacken the metal with the lighter, insert, repeat, until you find the black isn't being scratched off any more, which means you've found the right depth for that specific cut. You go until all the cuts are no longer having the black removed, and the lock should theoretically open to that key. There's another system involving a UV marker and UV light that does the same thing, but generally for night work. In any case, even smoking a blank is still really difficult to master, because it's hard to interpret the scratches when you don't have much experience. Impressioning Kwikset locks is terrible, because Kwiksets have such sloppy tolerances. It's much easier on things like Master padlocks (with keys, not combos obviously) or cheap wafer locks, like the kind you'd find on desks or toilet paper holders. If you really want to learn this, I'd hit up Ebay. Go to Business/Industrial, Safety & Security, Locks and Locksmith Gear, and look at the locks for sale. Pick up some cheap wafer locks and blanks to match, and a set of needle files, and a small pair of vice grips (locking pliers, for the newbie). Without smoking the blank, I seriously doubt you'll be able to read the shiny spots and scratches on an unsmoked key blank to begin with, not your fault, it's just really tricky to learn without a pro right there to guide you over and over. Practice all you like in the comfort of your own home. Anybody thinking of learning this for B&E...really, don't bother. You can't do this fast enough on the usual time deadlines involved in burglary. If you can get the lock off the door in the first place to take home and try to impression a key, you can make a key based off the pins and won't need to impression anyways. Better to stick to picking, or stealing and copying the actual key.

Immortalis Devoto
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posted 03-26-2006 01:50

Look forget i ever fucking mentioned the damn smoking idea.I dont care about it only new ideas. Fate
Moderator quote: posted 03-26-2006 02:04

Originally posted by xap: (Bunch of stuff.)

Okay, maybe I'm conused here. But every lock I've ever taken apart has had top springs that extend the pins basically to the midpoint of the cylinder and keep tension on them against the key the entire time no matter what as long as the key is still in there, if the teeth are the right depth or not. The tension changes, obviously, but the pins do not end when the teeth of the key are in the correct position. That happens at the shear line, with tension still on the pins and the key. So unless I'm totally missing something with your description of the process, would not the soot be scratched off the key by the pins each and every time you insert the key into the lock? The only way you'd lose tension on the pins to prevent scratching on any of them is if you got them all correct and lined up the shear, at which point the lock would be open and the point would be moot anyway. xap
Regular posted 03-26-2006 05:26

*blinks a few times* You know, that's like that old "does the center of a record move faster than the outer edge" problem. I never really thought about it before, but the way you describe it impressioning does seem impossible, even though I've watched other people do it many times, and just barely managed it myself a few. Huh. *stares at nothing for a while, thinking* That's really weird. But yeah, truly, it does work, for reasons I now realize I don't understand. Maybe it's something to do with the twisting of the cylinder...maybe when you twist it, the pins that are properly at the shear line no longer feel as much pressure from the top pins and springs, and just more sort of rest on the blank instead of pressing into it (like a less exaggerated version of the way mushroom pins tilt if you try to pick normally). And yeah, when you finish (or get really close to) the last cut, the lock will start to grudgingly turn each time you twist the pliers. You then polish it up, finalize the cuts until it turns smoothly, maybe use depth key sets as a guide to make it more accurate if you like.

Immortalis Devoto: Ooh, tetchy. xap
Regular posted 03-26-2006 14:51

Ah, here we go. This online manual pretty much says the same thing: http://www.gregmiller.net/locks/impress.html When the pins are turned, they bind and leave marks. But when the pins reach the shear line, they no longer bind and stop marking. I guess it's just one-a them-there science things. Tokolosh
Moderator posted 03-26-2006 14:57

http://freewebhosting.hostdepartment.com/s/scuzzyelo/keys.html Fate
Moderator quote: posted 03-26-2006 15:20

Originally posted by xap: *blinks a few times*

When you did it, would you describe perhaps that the pins in the correct positions made different marks? It could be that the pins that have met the shear line are giving a little more play than the others. I'm intruged at this proposition and I have a KW1 cylinder on the door of my apartment as well as a few blanks. I'm tempted to try, but I wonder what perhaps the staff might think. I also have the advantage of having a working key to compare to. This sort of thing tickles my fancy and I'd like to bunk or debunk it as scientifically as possible... xap
Regular posted 03-26-2006 16:29

Heh...there's no debunking to be done, thou doubtful dilettante. Impressioning works, as I have witnessed with mine own eyes on many occasions, and performed with these own two mitts. I recently purchased a video by Steve Young on the subject, which while being technically instructive, was made in the 80's, and thus Young's horrible hairstyle was quite distractive. The one defining characteristic of masters teaching amateurs how to impression is the common cry of, "Where the hell are these shiny scratches you're talking about?" It's almost impossible to see at first, and there's no way to communicate it by text. I've never noticed the pins making *different* scratches per se, when at the shear line, just an absence of scratch entirely.

Oogh. Kwikset. Good luck with that, Sonny Jim. Seriously, Kwikset sucks for impressioning. Better to try it with a Master padlock first. Immortalis Devoto
Regular posted 03-27-2006 00:14

Its like talking to a brick wall. xap
Regular posted 03-27-2006 00:48

ID: Sorry if you're offended by our prattle, but we're really trying to work out impressioning here. You'd be so lucky to get half this good amount of info on a teenager-populated web forum. You said you wanted "new ideas", but I doubt very much you know what those ideas are, and haven't even defined what sort of info beyond impressioning it is you're looking for. Forgive us for hijacking your thread, but unless you've actually got a notion of some other skill you're interested in, I'm sure most of the young folks around here would love to learn more about doing impressioning right. Immortalis Devoto
Regular posted 03-27-2006 17:56

No im not offened just feel a little left out. What im seeking to obtain is the ultimate weapon. Knowledge, skill, tequniue. The ability to bybass any security system. Imagine a locked door and the only and i mean only way to open it is with a key but u cant steal the key or the lock itself. How can i make one with these restrictions. People feel save, secure, and sleep well at night because of locks and security alarms. I want an entire arsenal of skills to choose from to bybass any security measure i should ever come across. The ability to remove the feeling of security through the most terrifying way possible is almost a lifes passion and pursiut for me. To look upon the act of killing with total indiffrence is to reach a point at which there are no more barriers left to cross. No more mental barriers left anyway. Both physically and mentally i wish to become the best at stealth that i possible can. I want to hack any security alarms, key pads , scanners, i want to pick any locks, and infiltrate any area. This is my goal as crazy as it may sound. Its an ego thing. -Every breath leads me one less to my last xap
Regular posted 03-28-2006 10:38

Wow and holy carp, son. It's like you just kind of transcribed my life's mission from ten years ago. (Er...spelling, though. "Technique". Heh.) Believe me, I know *exactly* what you mean, because I was sitting in your shoes a decade ago, and made the long, slow crawl of self-education. I may not be able to turn you into the God of Bypass, but I can definitely educate you, and your speech hath mightily impressed me. Drop me a line at [email protected], and let's talk privately.

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easy free products

justaskmeok
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posted 04-01-2006 04:10

well, this is not original, but very easy. i had a kodak digi cam that had a fucked up rotor. i wrote kodak, and they sent me a kodak easy share dx7630 cam. anyways after that, i wrote mountain dew, marlboro, mcdonalds, subway, marshall fields. almost everywhere, and they always send me free shit, and i do it all be email. this is under how not to get scammed or whatever, but it really works, im proof, and my next compliaint ill post the response. i also got free cub tickets last year saying an usher spilled beer on me. man theres so many companies who want us happy its sick. im from the 60610 and we dont play. i love everyone on this board especially the ones that dont like me. anyway who else does this shit? HARDMAN
Regular posted 04-01-2006 15:07

This is a good way to rip off major corporations. They're more concerned with protecting their reputation than saving a few bucks on some crap they send you. bluefox
Regular posted 04-01-2006 15:50

Post a sample letter you have sucessfully passed off as a valid complaint to these companies. Im curious as to what you wrote. Do you have any tips for complaint letters? ...I mean, to get a FREE digicam just because yours mildly fucked up (the rotor or whatever) is awesome. What proof did you send them that you had legitly paid for it? What buzz words/phrases do you have to say to make them want to send you stuff? dDIzzIEe
Regular posted 04-01-2006 16:37

A few tips...Complaint Letter Scam bluefox
Regular posted 04-01-2006 16:50

I seem to recall some tips for product complaint letters in your Bad Ideas FAQ Dizzle, but those were for free cigarettes or something. This guy (allegedly) got a free digicam, which is on a whole different level, so im wondering if there are any special tips needed to sucessfully scam something like that. AdamF
Regular posted 04-01-2006 17:35

I got a free elliptical machine back in January.

Sonofjango615
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posted 04-01-2006 19:38

Is there any database tehy can keep, or should we wait a few weeks if we want more free stuff from the same company? or do they just not keep track? anyone know? Rxq
Regular posted 04-01-2006 21:27

POsta sample letter? What is the e-mail adresses?

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scam ideas

Pink
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posted 04-02-2006 19:51

any one got a good scam idea just want to see what u ppl think mikemayberry
Regular posted 04-03-2006 00:27

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often less than helpful. Randy Waldron, Jr., has worked tirelessly for eight years to straighten out his credit record, and he continues to deal with the fallout. "It's been a very long and arduous battle," he says. "Recovering my identity was really the absolute hardest part. I think a lot of victims assume the problem will go away." Keep your children's Social Security and other identification information in a locked file drawer, never in your wallet. If there's evidence that your kids might be the victims of identity theft, order credit reports on them from the three nationwide credit bureaus: Equifax, Experian and Trans-Union. The credit search should come up empty. If it doesn't, contact local law enforcement immediately, and visit the Identity Theft Resource Center's website at idtheftcenter.org. Look Out for These Cons The Latest Work-at-Home Swindle Posting your résumé on an online job-search site can be a great way to tap job opportunities. Be warned, however, that genuine employers aren't the only people trolling those sites -- they're also favorites of scammers operating work-at-home schemes. The latest incarnation of this time-tested fraud begins when the crook gets your email address and other personal information from a résumé you've posted online. He sends you a note in which he claims to represent a money-transfer company looking to hire you to test its money-wiring services. His firm will send you a check, he says, which you are to deposit in your bank account before wiring the money back -keeping a "commission" of 5 to 20 percent for yourself. "The company's check is counterfeit, of course," explains Susan Grant, director of the National Fraud Information Center. "And you're stuck owing your bank all the money you've wired." Grant advises job hunters to be wary of any too-good-to-be-true employment offers, especially one that involves wiring money. Fake Jury Duty Con Jury duty may be a pain -- but the new fake jury duty scam is worse. The con begins when you receive a phone call, supposedly from your local court. The caller says that a warrant has been issued for your arrest because you've failed to report for jury duty. Flustered, you protest that you weren't notified -- this must be a mistake! Not to worry, says the helpful caller; I'll just need your Social Security number and date of birth to check our records. You provide that information -- and the scammer has what he needs to steal your identity. Real courts usually correspond by mail, not the telephone. And they don't need your Social Security number -- just your name and address should suffice. Medicare Fraud As many seniors know, the Medicare prescription drug program that took effect on January 1 is nothing if not confusing. It also administers an awful lot of money -- and the confluence of cash and confusion has drawn con artists like flies to you-knowwhat. Some fraudsters simply bilk seniors by selling phony plans, while others pose as insurers selling Medicare drug benefits in order to pilfer personal information. No legitimate Medicare prescription drug plan will send salespeople to your door uninvited. Likewise, participating insurers are prohibited from asking for personal information as part of their marketing. Insurers may ask for your Social Security number when you're actually enrolling in their plan -- but they'll only need credit card

or bank account numbers if you're signing up for automatic payments. Protect Your Personal Information Pretexting Some ID thieves have figured out an easy way to get your personal financial information: They ask. They don't identify themselves as crooks, naturally. In one common pretexting scheme, the caller claims to be conducting a survey on behalf of your bank or another financial institution, and asks questions designed to ferret out your account number, date of birth, Social Security number and so on. Once the con artist has that data, he can call your bank and pretend to be you -- then bleed you dry. Never give out your personal information to an unsolicited caller. "IRS" Phishing Scam You're probably familiar with phishing, even if you don't recognize the name: A scammer sends an e-mail that appears to come from your bank, eBay or another real company and asks you for personal information such as credit card or Social Security numbers. Roughly a quarter of home computers receive at least one phishing e-mail each month, according to a recent study by AOL and the National Cyber Security Alliance. Those e-mails are annoying, but a new twist on the scam is downright scary: The messages appear to come from the IRS, and claim that you either are due a refund or have tax problems. You're asked to click on a link to a website where you can clear up the matter -- and that's when the scam really kicks into gear. The link sends you to a page that appears to be on the IRS site (the URL even includes "www.irs.gov"), but in reality it is a fake site designed to collect your private financial information. An e-mail that claims to be from the IRS probably isn't. "The IRS doesn't send unsolicited e-mail," says IRS spokesperson Michelle Lamishaw, who points out that the agency has no reason to ask for financial access information such as PINs, account passwords and credit card numbers. Never follow a hyperlink in an unsolicited e-mail, no matter who it's from. Type in the URL yourself. If you think you may be due a tax refund, you can check by calling 800-829-1040 or by logging directly onto the IRS website at www.irs.gov and clicking on "Where's My Refund?" Pharming Phishing is bad enough, but get a load of this insidious new mutation. Pharming criminals hack into your computer and implant hidden software; when you try to log onto a legitimate e-commerce site, the software takes you instead to a copycat, where the crooks can gobble up your credit card numbers and other personal information. You can stymie pharmers by installing and maintaining computer security systems, including software such as Norton AntiVirus or McAfee VirusScan -- which feature antivirus and anti-spyware protections -- and firewalls such as ZoneAlarm or Norton Personal Firewall. That's easy to do. Simply buy and install the software and sign up for automatic updates. Don't Be Deceived by Technology Internet Telephony Trickery Consumers like Internet telephone service -- called voice over Internet protocol (VoIP) -- for lowering their phone bills. And scammers like to exploit the new software to nefarious ends. They have figured out how to use the technology to disguise their true locations -- allowing them to hide overseas while appearing to operate in the United States. Such deception can be an effective tool for duping American citizens who have learned to be wary of offshore schemes.

The Federal Trade Commission recently brought charges against a Costa Rica-based outfit that allegedly sold bogus franchises in a coffee display-rack business for investments ranging from $18,000 to $85,000. "The company used VoIP technology to appear as if it were operating from New Mexico, when it actually had no U.S. operations," says FTC spokesperson Jacqueline Dizdul. Warns Lydia Parnes, director of the FTC Bureau of Consumer Protection, "The days are gone when consumers could rely on a phone number to know where someone is located." High-Tech ATM Snooping You can say this for con artists: They have a remarkable talent for exploiting the newest technologies. One emerging scam capitalizes on the miracle of wireless digital cameras. The California Bankers Association reported in 2005 that criminals have taken to affixing wireless cameras to the front of ATMs, often cleverly disguised as part of the machine's card-scanning equipment. The camera then transmits a recording of the transaction -- including the card number and PIN -- to a device held by the scammer, who's waiting nearby. A clever criminal can use that information in all sorts of ways, like stealing from your account and appropriating your identity. Be suspicious of any devices attached to the front of an ATM or keypads missing their Braille markings, and report any unusual-seeming electronics to the bank and police. Scholarship and Government Grant Flimflams Everyone likes an unexpected windfall -- no one more than cash-strapped college students and their cash-strapped parents. Crooks capitalize on that hope by claiming that you've qualified for a government grant or your child has won a scholarship, as long as you pay a processing fee or give your Social Security or credit card number to hold the award. In the fall of 2005, Scott Holmblad of Cottage Grove, Minnesota, received a telephone call from a firm that claimed to specialize in obtaining government grants. The voice on the phone said the U.S. government had hired the company to locate the 29-yearold business manager and inform him that he had won a $5,000 grant. All Holmblad had to do, said the caller, was agree to have a $275 processing fee withdrawn directly from his bank account. The caller offered to post-date the withdrawal for seven days, ostensibly to allow time for the paperwork to clear. Holmblad sniffed out the scam, but played along -- and when the firm attempted to withdraw the money just three days later, it found that he had closed his account. "I had a little fun at their expense," Holmblad explains. Government grant agencies and scholarship-awarding organizations typically won't initiate correspondence with you or require an up-front fee. Be wary of any offer that demands an immediate response or uses a P.O. box for a return address.

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Where to find copper?

Darkfire
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posted 04-03-2006 14:07

A few friends and I broke into a junk yard, took some metal and sold it to another, anout a year ago. I think we got some shitty metal, though, because we basically filled my trunk but got $40. I hear about copper all the time. I have kept my eyes open for it wherever I go and I haven't seen any. I admit that I haven't gone out specifically to look for it, but I really don't know where to start. Can someone help me out with a few tips as to where I can find it? Fate
Moderator posted 04-03-2006 16:14

Copper is used widely in: - Pipes - Electrical wire (it's code in most places, older wiring can be aluminum) - Roof flashing on fancy houses and buildings - Some garden and lawn ornaments, because people like the green patina it develops. Note that brass also turns green when it corrodes (due to its copper content) but it too fetches a respectable price when sold. Darkfire
Regular posted 04-03-2006 16:23

Say I go to a construction site. Any wire or pipes around that area could be traded in? LawnChairSkank
Regular posted 04-03-2006 23:15

Air conditioner condensers have a shitload of copper in them. My dad's an HVAC guy and everytime he replaces on he takes it in ands gets like 25$ a peice. Go to a local HVAC place and they should have a ton of them in there dumpster.

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gotta free carton of smokes

justaskmeok
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posted 04-08-2006 06:16

swim bitched at marlboro sayin i lol <____ bought a carton of reds, and i opened it and they were menthol. they asked for proof of purchase, i said i through it away. to make this shorter, there sending me an age verification to sendback to them, then a coupon for 1 free carton.....off to bigger things now.

lordsjohnson
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posted 04-08-2006 06:18

Goody for you. You're amazing. DonMuttoni
Regular posted 04-08-2006 06:18

I think even this thread would be pointless without pics..... but I love Marlboro too http://tinyurl.com/9ocm4

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RECEIPT SCAM?

blah45
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posted 04-08-2006 16:04

i was reading on this forum bad ideas and i read the one on stealing things from walmart and what to do with it so i thought what if i bought some item any item brought it home came back a day later with the receipt and no item walked into the store picked up the item and brought it to the return counter and returned it would this work? if it would i would have the product and store credit or cash what you guys think? i dont know if this has been posted but im a noob Fate
Moderator posted 04-08-2006 16:06

Possibly. The key lies in the fact that most Wal Marts have to entrances, and the returns desk is more to one side or the other, in that little nook sort of thing set into the front wall. It would be quite possible to nab merchandise from other parts of the store and bring it to the counter without anyone paying any attention to you. Millixion
Regular posted 04-08-2006 17:35

Any wal-mart I've ever been to has had it's return department right next to the front door. I think it would be pretty suspicious if you walked past that, grabbed an item, and then returned to that location. Maybe if you spent enough time in the store it would be ok, but if I was working there, I would raise a red flag to anyone coming from the store with an item. Maybe I've just been hanging around here too long Another thing to consider: If it's an electronic item, it needs to have it's electronic tag removed before returning, as I'm sure they'd check for that on any suspicious return.

Just Insane
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posted 04-08-2006 18:37

Its really easy to do this with clothes. Your Papi
Regular posted 04-08-2006 18:42

Could work. If they really look over the receipt, they might realize it though. Vilkacis
Regular quote: posted 04-08-2006 19:47

Originally posted by Your Papi: Could work. If they really look over the receipt, they might realize it though.

^I don't get this. How could the reciept show info that would give it away? Simplest with untagged items, and probably bringing in the bag from their store you brought it from would make it seem more legit.

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Simple Con Trick

Lucky7
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posted 04-08-2006 09:14

This isn't my idea, but I'll pass it on for those of you who like to win a few £s or $s out of your mates. 1. Put £10, £20, £50 (or whatever currency/amount you want) on the table.(I'll use the example of £50) 2. Instruct your 'friend' to put £50 on the table of their own. 3. Tell them you are going to bid for the money, say that because you're a gentleman/ woman you will bid first so they have the advantage. 4. If you want you can play some patter about completing rounds of bidding etc. so they feel like they know what they are doing. 5. Bid £50 (or whatever amount you put in in the first place). 6. They might bid something like £55, but probably something more than £50. 7. Accept their bid. 8. give them the £100 on the table and take their £55 (or whatever). You make a profit of £5 or whatever they bid over. Fun to do on mates.

blinky101
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posted 04-08-2006 09:35

I sell tea to kids in baggies. They think its weed. I sometimes stick around to see them pretend to be high. lol Its all in good fun. Lucky7
Regular posted 04-08-2006 09:39

hehe how cruel :P blinky101
Regular posted 04-08-2006 09:43

Well your talking about young people who dont know much about the diffrent currencies? Just trade them 1000 yen for 20 pounds. They'll think they're rich. can buy the yen from any major bank. [This message has been edited by blinky101 (edited 04-08-2006).] Lucky7
Regular posted 04-08-2006 09:50

You

No, this trick is about confusing people about auctions where the thing you are bidding for is money itself. Currency stays the say all the way through. If you put in £s they put in £s if you use $s they use $s. You make money whatever you use :P Der Commissar
Regular posted 04-08-2006 11:19

sounds like a nice scam, but i'd only do it on mates, It's not worth having your face fucked up with a broken bottle when you're on the train by some poof because you ripped him of $5 at the pub last saturday Lucky7
Regular posted 04-08-2006 11:59

I agree, it's a very 'Haha I got you this time... see you tomorrow' kind of prank... m_hindler
Regular posted 04-09-2006 01:03

lol yea i can see the auction working but then ure friend looks down and goes wtf? now i only have 45 pound--give me back my god damn money!

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donation jar scam

bluefox
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posted 04-07-2006 19:33

While im sure its been done before, I was walking out of a mom n' pop resteraunt a few days ago and realized a great and easy potential scam. Just get alot of old jars, tape a label to them that has the name of a random charity and the words 'donation jar' on them. Then walk into random locations, like resteraunts and gas stations (preferably near rich neighborhoods), and ask the owner if you can set up a donation jar for your charity near their cash register. I figure 10 or so jars littered around local businesses would pull in some nice gas money and a maybe little extra every week or two. Risk seems to be VERY VERY low for this scam, which is always a plus. Honestly, there are only a few minor problems I can find with this idea. Someone who REALLY works for the charity I name might walk into the store, notice the donation jar, and possibly do some calling and find out it is a scam. But even IF that happens, the worst that would happen is the store nixing the jar (I think?). So yeah, does anyone have any input to help flesh this scam out? Are there any gaping holes in the plan im overlooking? Thanks. blah45
Regular posted 04-07-2006 21:09

your cruel bluefox
Regular posted 04-07-2006 21:11

Im cruel? This is like the most mellow scheme compared to others on this board. Go bug them since you dont seem to have any constructive input for this. pyroanarchist
Regular posted 04-07-2006 21:11

If you give 10% to charity, its legal. Pink
Regular posted 04-08-2006 01:28

You would be better off I you went to a random neibourhod and went door to money. I think of a creative cause I will garentee it better than what you have planned

Pink
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posted 04-08-2006 01:29

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Originally posted by Pink: You would be better off I you went to a random neibourhod and went door to money. I think of a creative cause I will garentee it better than what you have planned

*IF YOU*

Fate
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posted 04-08-2006 02:14

There's an edit button, you know. You ought to use it. This won't work at most chain stores, but privately owned local businesses may go for it. Another more believeable scam would be to make the donation jars for new high school band uniforms or something universally lame that some random kid might actually be trying to get local businesses to keep on their counters. viz7bl
Regular posted 04-08-2006 02:58

It is legal if you donate a % to charity, but not if you use a charity's name that is not affiliated with you. I did this scam in blacksburg, made a little over $1,000 from the days of Nov 25th to Dec 26th. It was "Help bring christmas to the needy." with a sheet that explained the charity. Basically I lied and said that all donations go into providing a christmas dinner for needy families. The dinner was located at the mormon church. What I did was illegal because I didn't donate any of it to charity. len
Regular posted 04-08-2006 12:07

heres another idea... run up to the counter of a shop and steal a donation jar! takes way less time and thought.

Fate
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posted 04-08-2006 12:41

Wouldn't you know it, that's prosecutable. There were two guys in my area last year who got busted for that. They were hitting various convenience stores around the area not to hold up the joint but to steal the donation jars on the counters. On the fourth store they hit word had already gotten around and store employees clotheslined one of them and held him for the cops. He ratted out the second, and they both were convicted. Millixion
Regular quote: posted 04-08-2006 17:41

Originally posted by viz7bl: It is legal if you donate a % to charity, but not if you use a charity's name that is not affiliated with you.

Honestly, who's going to run a record on who donated how much money from a jar in a mom and pop store to which charity? This is a pretty good idea if you play it right. You definitly only want to hit mom and pop stores, and you definitly want to have a sheet of paper explaining the charity, along with pictures of needy children and whatever. Too bad lent's almost over, that's a good season to do it. I do pose the question just out of curiosity; is it in fact legal if you donate as little as 10% to the charity you listed on the container? Canis_Major
Regular posted 04-08-2006 17:54

if yuo make up charities... then noone from that charity will be able to recognise it. godzillaroar2000
Regular posted 04-08-2006 17:54

I think! Wow, I (hypotheticly of course) always thought of doing this but it sounds so easy now...I think I'm going to do it (hypotheticly)! S510
Regular posted 04-08-2006 18:04

Good Idea,

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faithbanks
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posted 04-09-2006 03:11

Golly, I sure did miss a lot during my TOTSE hiatus. SWIM will be trying this scam. cac0
Regular posted 04-09-2006 03:47

Make shure you dress nice when you come and pick up the jars.

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u want money huh? free? easy scam? come in

justaskmeok
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posted 03-30-2006 06:35

well i dontlike pedofiles. so what i do and have been doing for the last 3 years is scamming them. its vryeasy and ive made about 40 grand in cash and merchandise. here it goes. ok pick out a name. i use the name steph. anyway go into chatrooms, and say 12 f pics, or whatever. alot of people will im u. tell them you live with just your mom, and shes not home alot, and also shes abusive and a drunk. tell the man u want to leave and move out, or your mom is kicking you out. get a po box. you dont really need an id for one. tell the pervert you need money to leave, they will send cash. also ive had them send digi cams for pictures, gift cards, and especially money. i got my first guy for 1000 dollars cash. this was like 3 years ago, and his dumbass is still waiting for me prolly. i guess this is a sick way to make money but i look at it like fuck them. u also have to usually talk perverted, and obviously act like a lil boy or girl. never say your younger then 12. if they want a pic, just go to photobucket.com and send them a pic of someone. i used to use facepic.com anyway im sharing this with everyone cause i guess its my contribution to this site. remember go in chatrooms. be prepared. if they ever wanna talk on the phone tell them your mom moniotors your calls. im not looking for anyone to compliment me on this, i just want to show you all the perfect scam. if anyone has any questions just post. go for it u lil jerks, it works. me justaskmeok
Regular posted 03-30-2006 06:51

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ nooner
Regular posted 03-30-2006 07:53

Pretty sleazy, but I do not doubt it works. I'm surprised mroe don't have an issue with PO boxes though.

Risk
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posted 03-30-2006 08:51

Sixteen would be a better age, as there are more girls at sixteen who seriously think they're smart and want to be indipendant. This is why adults who want to get into these types of relationships will be more trustworthy to actually give money to you. PO box is also a bad idea. Why would a twelve year old girl have a PO box? Get it sent to an abandoned place or a house across the street. And of couse, spell like every other teen out there (the thread starter is pretty good at it). This could work. It's luck more than anything. Where'd you get the idea? Were you a twelve year old girl offering 'pics' three years ago? It's kinda obvious you didn't scam $40,000... Nik
Regular quote: posted 03-30-2006 10:21

Originally posted by Risk: Where'd you get the idea?

http://tinyurl.com/me3sh Fat Penis
Regular posted 03-30-2006 15:17

thanks bro. stay white brother. jonogt
Regular posted 03-30-2006 15:42

good idea, but ya i don't beleive 40k either, and find a different place than the PO box scorpio2121
Regular posted 03-30-2006 15:59

I smell bullshit 40k my ass but it sounds original and i like the way you have thought about it, and yeah, no chance of any 12 year old girl having a po box

marusushi
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posted 03-30-2006 17:11

Perhaps this could be a solution for getting rid of pedophilia? Besides, I think it's perfectly okay to scam sickos. Fat Penis
Regular quote: posted 03-30-2006 17:15

Originally posted by marusushi: Perhaps this could be a solution for getting rid of pedophilia? Besides, I think it's perfectly okay to scam sickos.

dude, i just did totse username check. you have been asking for underage girl pix for awhile. think before you post. wierdo. Fate
Moderator posted 03-30-2006 17:30

Despite your tenuous grasp of the English language and your claims of profit that are no doubt greatly exaggerated, you actually have a halfway decent idea. Beware those FBI agents who you always hear about on the news arresting people because they have nothing better to do than pretend to be 13 year old girls and/or pedophiles and run around arresting people. I wonder if any of those guys have ever managed to pull a sting operation against themselves? Interesting line of thought. spazz
Regular posted 03-30-2006 18:35

Well now i am runin over to yahoo to try this out. reject
Regular posted 03-30-2006 18:45

I'm thinking of doing this, but im too lazy to go and set up a PO box. Could I just get the guy to send money to my house, and if he comes round just deal with it and deny all knowledge (whilst keeping a baseball bat handy, just in case), but then could he get the police on me for deception or some shit? I don't know, sounds like a very good idea though.

Nik
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posted 03-30-2006 19:21

I don't think so, he's giving you the money to help out and not paying for something, isn't he? And even if he were paying for something it'd be the sexual favours of a minor.

m3altoon623
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posted 03-30-2006 20:58

hmmm......I saw something very similar to this on law and order about a month ago. You could also black-mail them if you wanted to go all-out. threaten to expose them unless the give you x amount of dollars. that idea cam from a book called The Brethren by John Grisham. Aft3r ImaGe
Regular posted 03-30-2006 21:32

It's pretty original for this site as opposed to some of the other stuff here. We need more social engineering scams that the people can't report you on. The report would be fishy if some 40 year old man submitted a report about someone claiming to be 12 took their money they gave for them to possibly bribe them into being kidnapped/ worse. jonogt
Regular posted 03-30-2006 21:41

i think i'm going to try it, and tell my friend that if he should start having packages postmarked to "ashley" (or some other big-blue-eyed looking-for-love 15 yr old type name) show up at his door, that theyre for me lol justaskmeok
Regular posted 03-30-2006 21:46

well i found the idea just thinkin about how to make easy money, i also say my neighbor is an older guy and i drink with him, thats whose po box it is. also 40 k is easy that was doing it part time like 4 hourts a night and checking my email often. justaskmeok
Regular posted 03-30-2006 21:51

also like i said have some patience if your thinking about doing this hypothetically, of course. and i think if you got caught doing this, the pedophile will get into troule not u. the pigs or fedipigs would laugh that shit out of court, especially if your underage ripping off a 50 yo child raper. anyway 40k i didnt say in all cash, laptops digi cams, gift cards, id say about 20 in cash. lol one fuck sent some fake as jewelry once. youll get all kinds of shit.

Cannabisman
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posted 03-30-2006 23:42

This sounds like a very good idea, I mean he can't do shit about it or I could just say he was trying to pay a minor for sex. Man, awesome, I'm gonna need to get a PO box soon. jonogt
Regular posted 03-31-2006 01:27

wats the pt of the PO box thing?? i would say do a 15 year old girl... isn't 16 the legal adult age for a female? if so that might cause problems i dunno.. but ya i'm just gona use my friends address. he orders all kinds of stuff and his parents never question it. if someone did show up there and try to make some deception claim bullshit, he'd knife em (given it wasnt the police) angryanalrobot
Regular posted 03-31-2006 03:24

SWIM is definately trying this. (seriousally it's not me..) Risk
Regular quote: posted 03-31-2006 04:58

Originally posted by jonogt: wats the pt of the PO box thing?? i would say do a 15 year old girl... isn't 16 the legal adult age for a female? if so that might cause problems i dunno.. but ya i'm just gona use my friends address. he orders all kinds of stuff and his parents never question it. if someone did show up there and try to make some deception claim bullshit, he'd knife em (given it wasnt the police)

No... I'm pretty sure it's eighteen for either sex. The point would be so he couldn't track you. And JAMOK, why would they give you gift cards and laptops? That makes no sense. Digi cams I could understand.. It's pretty obvious you're lying about that, just leave it and you've still got an idea. jonogt
Regular posted 03-31-2006 05:12

ya i guess no tracking ability would be good, but i think it'd cut down on how much stuff you could get cause it'd look fishy.

Elephantitis Man
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posted 03-31-2006 05:19

Hmmm...I'd do it if there was a reliable way to get the shit to my house. Frankly, I'm not too eager to hand out my real address to a sicko who I've scammed out of a few hundred bucks. That's the biggest hole. Someone find a solution to it, and I'll give it a go. nooner
Regular quote: posted 03-31-2006 05:40

Originally posted by Elephantitis Man: Hmmm...I'd do it if there was a reliable way to get the shit to my house. Frankly, I'm not too eager to hand out my real address to a sicko who I've scammed out of a few hundred bucks. That's the biggest hole. Someone find a solution to it, and I'll give it a go.

Learn the routes and times of the mailman. Have the stuff shipped to random houses around town, OR houses of people you don't like. Go around after the mailman and pick out any stuff from the mail that's yours. Some advice on this, however: 1) Make sure it's a house off the beaten path. Tampering with mail is a federal offense, if the neighbors see you, you're doing time(or at least a hefty fine). 2) Recon, recon, recon. Find a house where you KNOW the inhabitants will not be home at the time of the mail. Know when the mailman gets there. Find some place to wait where you can see the mailbox but no one can see you. 3) Do not get attached. If even ONE letter addressed to "Julie" is picked up by the actually occupant of the house, move on to a different house, no matter how much recon you've done or how perfect the house is. Don't pick an abandoned house. Mailmen DO notice if frequent packages start showing up at a house where no one is reported to live, in fact, some may forward the mail to the previous occupant's address. Fayt
Regular posted 03-31-2006 06:47

Actually this can and would easily. I've seen a website where this girl will post ANY seductive picture on there... if you ask right. No nudity, just underwear shots. Well, guys will send her money, underwear to wear, etc. No body has ever seen her face either... it's all body shots. Seriously, her whole ward drobe was bought by random guys online. Some people will pay anything for their kicks.

justaskmeok
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posted 03-31-2006 06:48

anyway im going to sound like a fag, but the only reason im giving this idea out isnt cause im retiring doing it. its cause all u fuckers like me appreciate this kind of shit, and you all are cool in your own ways. if u have a direct question for me, just post to my sn. theres ins and outs. u can use a close buddy, DONT GET THAT shit sent to your house. please i thought about that, then i figured these fucks could hurt my mom foreal. well i guess thats it im just waiting for questions CAUSE I KNOW one of you is going to be determined about this and BANK of these fucks. yes im the real green lantern, the evil genious. peace Jacobjac
Regular posted 03-31-2006 11:43

Sounds easier than it is. It's a nice idea but it certainly isn't easy.. You have to talk your way in to it for hours.. You can't exactly ask for money straight away.. Then you may find out that theyre (most of the time) not interested in giving money. And if they say they are interested.. Chances are, they're lying. They'll get some picks.. jack off.. And finish their business. Bye, you're blocked. What this topic doesn't cover is the ones that want naked pics and webcams and so forth. They don't feel a usual pic is good enough. In closing.. You'll be very lucky to pull off getting money, by simply giving the guy a picture of you and telling him your story. WhyteWydow
Regular posted 03-31-2006 11:55

That's a great idea dude. If they don't require too much ID for the PO box, I will try that. justaskmeok
Regular quote: posted 03-31-2006 20:05

Originally posted by Jacobjac: Sounds easier than it is. It's a nice idea but it certainly isn't easy.. You have to talk your way in to it for hours.. You can't exactly ask for money straight away.. Then you may find out that theyre (most of the time) not interested in giving money. And if they say they are interested.. Chances are, they're lying. They'll get some picks.. jack off.. And finish their business. Bye, you're blocked.

What this topic doesn't cover is the ones that want naked pics and webcams and so forth. They don't feel a usual pic is good enough. In closing.. You'll be very lucky to pull off getting money, by simply giving the guy a picture of you and telling him your story.

your def right, thats why i said u need patience. it took me 1 month on my 1st pervert, and i got a g out of him.

ManInBlack
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posted 03-31-2006 22:14

I can't believe that no one has picked up on the fact that this is not a new idea. In fact, as the original poster described it, the scheme is almost exactly the one that is pulled in a John Grisham novel. Since I read it in high school, I can't remember the name exactly, but it is based on a true story and it is the one with the 3 judges in federal prison who pretend to be young boys and advertise for "penpals" in gay publications. They may have even used anonymous PO Boxes. I have no doubts as to the success of the idea, but c'mon, give credit where credit's due. Your Papi
Regular posted 04-01-2006 00:30

Nice this is a wicked plan man. SWIM want to try it but he don't have resources to a P. O box. If you are intersted in working together they can divide earnings. If some one is intersted in this contact him [email protected] He got msn or email him. [This message has been edited by Your Papi (edited 04-01-2006).] gunjah
Regular posted 04-01-2006 02:34

i got this guy really going (hes a weirdo) but how should i get on the sybject of him sending money? He said he spent nearly 1k on thongs for his last 14 yo g/f (what a freak) lol HARDMAN
Regular posted 04-01-2006 02:35

I have to admit, this is actually a pretty clever and safe way to make money. More importantly it is, in my opinion, socially righteous. Fuck over some pedophiles for their money… and I seriously doubt they will contact the police. But technically I don’t think there’s anything against the law about sending some money and shit to some kid, so still be careful about them contacting the cops anyway. If you want extra security I suggest you do all your operations at a public computer such as at a coffee shop or a school computer(make sure it’s one that you don’t need a personal username to log onto though). This may be a little paranoid, but also try to never develop a routine for when you do your operations, and keep on the lookout for police surveillance teams. But really you don’t have to worry about this so much as long as you make sure the pervert actually *solicits you for sex while thinking you are underage.* Right there you have proof of that guy's crimes on your harddrive.

Yes, it will probably take patience and time to actually get some money, but your skill level at it will improve over time. I mean, it’s better than actually getting a fuckin job. And as an earlier poster said, there is always the option of blackmail. Just tell that motherfucker you tracked his IP address or tell him you will show the police your computer records. Then bam! just take that motherfucker's money and pocket that shit. [This message has been edited by HARDMAN (edited 04-01-2006).] RP_NS
Regular quote: posted 04-01-2006 02:46

Originally posted by gunjah: i got this guy really going (hes a weirdo) but how should i get on the sybject of him sending money? He said he spent nearly 1k on thongs for his last 14 yo g/f (what a freak) lol

haha HARDMAN
Regular quote: posted 04-01-2006 02:46

Originally posted by gunjah: i got this guy really going (hes a weirdo) but how should i get on the sybject of him sending money? He said he spent nearly 1k on thongs for his last 14 yo g/f (what a freak) lol

Try asking him for small things first and then work your way up. Or if you want to get real psychological you can do the opposite and ask him for something really big first, and when he doesn't give it to you, start acting really upset over it and ask for something smaller. He will be more likely to give you something smaller if you ask for something big first.

gunjah
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posted 04-01-2006 03:09

id bet i could get this guy to send me something, but i need a PO box, how hard are they to get and ho wmuch do they cost? do u think i coul djust go to one of those package places that will accept your packages for you? Or would it be too suspicious to have him send it to my name? blink
Regular posted 04-01-2006 03:36

A Post Office box near me is $37 for six months. It is located in a mall, so the P.O. Box is never written in the address. For example, it would be like 1023 Crossgate Center. I could even buy the PO Box, then file a change of address form and have the mail sent to a different address. For First Class Mail, it can be forwarded for a year. This will virtually eliminate any chance encounters with the sicko. KrylonSpy
Regular posted 04-01-2006 03:44

Just adding some of my thoughts. PayPal or maby just GCs to places you buy things from regularly Amazon.com, clothing retailers... justaskmeok
Regular quote: posted 04-01-2006 03:59

Originally posted by ManInBlack: I can't believe that no one has picked up on the fact that this is not a new idea. In fact, as the original poster described it, the scheme is almost exactly the one that is pulled in a John Grisham novel. Since I read it in high school, I can't remember the name exactly, but it is based on a true story and it is the one with the 3 judges in federal prison who pretend to be young boys and advertise for "penpals" in gay publications. They may have even used anonymous PO Boxes. I have no doubts as to the success of the idea, but c'mon, give credit where credit's due.

youroutyour godamn mind man. i mae this up. jealous fuck. i try to contribute, and i get bullshit.

justaskmeok
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posted 04-01-2006 04:00

quote:

Originally posted by gunjah: i got this guy really going (hes a weirdo) but how should i get on the sybject of him sending money? He said he spent nearly 1k on thongs for his last 14 yo g/f (what a freak) lol

congrats i told u. justaskmeok
Regular posted 04-01-2006 04:03

i know all or most of you are paranoid. im not. if anyone has a personal question and wants to ask me just email me. if your a cop good, im just making one pedo poorer. sorry totse, and bored im posting so much, its just my original idea, and dude up there talking about john grisham, and saying i didnt come up with this gets on my nerves. well its all good. lets make some money. Your Papi
Regular quote: posted 04-01-2006 04:04

Originally posted by blink: A Post Office box near me is $37 for six months. It is located in a mall, so the P.O. Box is never written in the address. For example, it would be like 1023 Crossgate Center. I could even buy the PO Box, then file a change of address form and have the mail sent to a different address. For First Class Mail, it can be forwarded for a year. This will virtually eliminate any chance encounters with the sicko.

Thats a pretty good price for 6 months from what I know. contact me.

ManInBlack
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posted 04-01-2006 04:13

quote:

Originally posted by justaskmeok: youroutyour godamn mind man. i mae this up. jealous fuck. i try to contribute, and i get bullshit.

http:/ /www.amazo n.com/gp/p roduct/055 3502417/10 2-4073260- 2708154?v= glance&n=283155 The Brethren By John Grisham "The novel does feature three antiheroes of a sort, the brethren of the title, judges serving time in a federal prison in Florida for white-collar offenses. They're a hard bunch to root for, though, as their main activity behind bars is running a blackmail scheme in which they bait, hook and squeeze wealthy, closeted gay men through a magazine ad supposedly placed by "Ricky," a young incarcerated gay looking for companionship." Suck my dick you ignorant fuck. P.S.: Not only are you not original in any way, you also spell and use grammar like a 4th grader with Down syndrome. [This message has been edited by ManInBlack (edited 04-01-2006).] mayor of monkey town
Regular posted 04-01-2006 05:35

Yeah i might try it, its not something you can do on an idle whim though. Hmm, i'll think about it. Its taking money off a dangerous person in most cases. HTA_37
Regular posted 04-01-2006 07:02

Jeezus, I've been at it for 3 hours, and all I got were a bunch of perverted guys wanting naked pix! I even hinted that I need money and crap... jeezus, these people are dumb!!! I think this would work, but it's not right now...

mikemayberry
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posted 04-01-2006 09:54

it seems like it could be a good blackmailing system instead of what you all are discussing. i also thought of the brethren when you mentioned it because of the position you are putting the mark in. but to the original poster's credit, it is a different take on the idea. why do you all feel so great about stealing from perverts? they probably worked for the money too. stop trying to justify your theft and just embrace your willingness to betray another human being. ewahwoowah
Regular posted 04-01-2006 10:57

wat the hell is a po box? scorpio2121
Regular posted 04-01-2006 11:04

Its a box you can have mail sent to instead of your home address, you may have one if you dont want people finding out your home address, just go to your local post office and ask about one.

gunjah
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posted 04-01-2006 13:29

I really like this idea, and whoever is trying to take the deserved respect away from the poster should stop, i think this is a great idea and i acctually enjoy misleading these people, its funny. thanks for the idea scorpio2121
Regular posted 04-01-2006 17:36

what chat rooms do you normally use by the way, and do you make a fake im account for it, and how long does the whole hting normally take ? p.s you may be able to impersonate the mum after you have scammed the guy, saying that you'll phone the police unless you give htme more money.

HTA_37
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posted 04-01-2006 18:58

quote:

Originally posted by scorpio2121: what chat rooms do you normally use by the way, and do you make a fake im account for it, and how long does the whole hting normally take ? p.s you may be able to impersonate the mum after you have scammed the guy, saying that you'll phone the police unless you give htme more money.

I use the Yahoo! Flirt Room, and yes, you have to make a fake account and profile. It takes long too, you can't just jump into some sob story, or they'll think ur crazy. scorpio2121
Regular posted 04-01-2006 21:23

ok cheers, im working on some social engineering jobs at the moment but i might get onto it sometime soon. Evil.Commando
Regular posted 04-02-2006 00:59

YOU CUNTS. Some bitch scammed me $700 like that. FUCK! HARDMAN
Regular quote: posted 04-02-2006 01:48

Originally posted by Evil.Commando: YOU CUNTS. Some bitch scammed me $700 like that. FUCK!

Haha, what a dumbass.

L3viDoG
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posted 04-02-2006 02:38

Lol I did this before, But I Pretended I was a 14 year Lesbian, and this one chick who was 16 also a lesbian kept sending me money to come and see her. Lol it was great Diesel
Regular posted 04-02-2006 03:00

Get him to send it to your paypal or somesuch. Risk
Regular quote: posted 04-02-2006 03:28

Originally posted by gunjah: I really like this idea, and whoever is trying to take the deserved respect away from the poster should stop, i think this is a great idea and i acctually enjoy misleading these people, its funny. thanks for the idea

I also like this idea, but it's obvious the thread starter is lying about the money earnt. When faced with a question about credabilty, they reply with an insult that has nothing to do with the actual question. Do you seriously respect someone on the internet, who 'spells and uses grammar like a 4th grader with Down syndrome'? slosh
Regular quote: posted 04-02-2006 03:58

Originally posted by L3viDoG: Lol I did this before, But I Pretended I was a 14 year Lesbian, and this one chick who was 16 also a lesbian kept sending me money to come and see her. Lol it was great

HINT: That wasn't a lesbian. That was a 38 year old bald pedo.

smart_n00b
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posted 04-02-2006 04:09

WOW!!! This really works!! I've already got a 36 year old guy from GA offering to send me 100$ for a webcam. how funny.... I have message archiving on, so when the money is in the mail, I will let everyone see the conversations.. p.s. it only took me about two hours :-P .. If anyone has questions about it just ask. thanks Dark_Magneto
Regular quote: posted 04-02-2006 04:41

Originally posted by Risk: Do you seriously respect someone [b]on the internet, who 'spells and uses grammar like a 4th grader with Down syndrome'?[/B]

If you're acting like a little kid, I doubt a high level of intelligence is involved. If I had the time and motivation I bet I could slow-play some reluctant people and have them sending me money by the end of the month with no pictures or nothing. You have to make it believable though. Talk about your teacher, your school, your dog, your parents, etc. almost daily with them. build a really good rapport with this person, then suddenly dissappear for a few days. Come back with some sob story, play your cards right and it shouldn't be too hard to get some horny pedos sending items/money. [This message has been edited by Dark_Magneto (edited 04-02-2006).] Jokke
Regular posted 04-02-2006 18:18

I have done stuff like this before. Only with Refill cards for my cell phone, I’m going to try a little faster but more risky way. I’m going to get a friend of mine and his girlfriend to help me. My thoughts where basically the same only that we get the perv to meet The girl (my friends girlfriend.) And tell him to bring money for sex. The girl builds up the relationship with the perv, And we jump him when he meets up. Steal all his money and beat him up.

sobe4uandme
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posted 04-03-2006 00:09

do you guys know of a good program for your computer that along with a computer/phone headset, allows you to change your voice in real time or close to it so that you could have a short convo with the perv and sound like a 12 yr old. i bet you could speed the process if you talked to him on the phone within an hour. even if just to say hi so he can hear a little girls voice and blow his load. he'll get so excited that hed be willing to give you whatever u ask. i was thinking that you tell him u have to go on vacation in two days and your going to europe with your mom(who u hate), but you would do anything to not go. he'll then suggest( thinking he's smooth as a baby's ass, (i didnt intend to pun that when i was typing..ha..but anyways..)) that you come get away from the bitch and stay with me. tell him you cant sneak away now, but it would be easy to ditch your mom in the czech repub., where you'll need 2500 cash wired to you in order to get a plane ticket back to the states. thats another idead... i dont know if this was brought up, but instead of going thru the trouble of a po box. call him, never let him call u and get anything sent to you wired as cash...that way instead of getting dildos and computers in the mail, say u want to buy a dildo so u can masterbate to him, but it costs 500 bucks, and the new computer u need bc mom took it away, is now sent as cash instead of a computer (unless you really need a new one, but for me i just got one so another 2500 cash sounds better). whats your thoughts??? jonogt
Regular quote: posted 04-03-2006 00:40

Originally posted by sobe4uandme: do you guys know of a good program for your computer that along with a computer/phone headset, allows you to change your voice in real time or close to it so that you could have a short convo with the perv and sound like a 12 yr old. i bet you could speed the process if you talked to him on the phone within an hour. even if just to say hi so he can hear a little girls voice and blow his load. he'll get so excited that hed be willing to give you whatever u ask. i was thinking that you tell him u have to go on vacation in two days and your going to europe with your mom(who u hate), but you would do anything to not go. he'll then suggest( thinking he's smooth as a baby's ass, (i didnt intend to pun that when i was typing..ha..but anyways..)) that you come get away from the bitch and stay with me. tell him you cant sneak away now, but it would be easy to ditch your mom in the czech repub., where you'll need 2500 cash

wired to you in order to get a plane ticket back to the states. thats another idead... i dont know if this was brought up, but instead of going thru the trouble of a po box. call him, never let him call u and get anything sent to you wired as cash...that way instead of getting dildos and computers in the mail, say u want to buy a dildo so u can masterbate to him, but it costs 500 bucks, and the new computer u need bc mom took it away, is now sent as cash instead of a computer(unless you really need a new one, but for me i just got one so another 2500 cash sounds better). whats your thoughts???

i don't think young teenage girls understand the process of wiring money and stuff, do they? whoa... what if you played it dumb on the concept and had him "tell you about" how it works and then sent it to you over that. i think if i was a ped and a supposed 12-15 yo. girl said ya paypal/wire me money i would raise an eyebrow. cocacola14
Regular quote: posted 04-03-2006 01:56

Originally posted by jonogt: i don't think young teenage girls understand the process of wiring money and stuff, do they? whoa... what if you played it dumb on the concept and had him "tell you about" how it works and then sent it to you over that. i think if i was a ped and a supposed 1215 yo. girl said ya paypal/wire me money i would raise an eyebrow.

Yeah that sounds better

dDIzzIEe
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posted 04-03-2006 04:54

I don't say this too often, and perhaps not often enough, but the original post is obviously bullshit, and frankly some of you who've replied positively to this should know better. First of all, regarding the PO Box. If anyone knows of a place that hands out PO boxes without proof of identification/residence, please do tell... AFAIK, in the US one must have not one, but two forms of ID (primary photo ID and a secondary piece of identification), as well as proof of residence. Don't believe me? Call up your local PO, or check the PO Box application form, available here: www.usps.com/forms/_pdf/ps1093. pdf . But anyway, the logistics behind obtaining a PO box aren't even important in this case. The fact of the matter is that PO boxes are not anonymous. From the ZIP code/PO Box it is possible to determine which exact physical mailing location the PO box belongs to. Whatever package you receive can and likely will be marked, so when you take that package out of the box the predator will know exactly who you are. Don't think anybody would actually bother going through all the trouble of staking out the post office that's halfway across the country or even around the world? Then step back from the super opportunity of getting a shiny digital camera for a second and ask yourself the common sense question of why the fuck someone who's willing to spend $400 for your camera won't be willing to come to you the moment you hand out a physical address, any address. Drop sites are hardly safe either, so don't get your hopes up. Far be it from me to tell you not to do whatever you want, but remember that the cardinal rule is to be sure that the person you're conning isn't conning you. This is far from safe, and if you've got any illusions of scoring an easy free digicam, think twice about what you're getting into. mayor of monkey town
Regular posted 04-03-2006 05:54

Thats what i was hinting at. Pedos dont hang around by themselves, the fucks work in groups. And i wouldnt trust them not to be murderers, these are the most twisted and fucked up people in our society. The money seems easy, but people get killed everyday.

justaskmeok
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posted 04-03-2006 06:20

quote:

Originally posted by Evil.Commando: YOU CUNTS. Some bitch scammed me $700 like that. FUCK!

LMAO scorpio2121
Regular posted 04-03-2006 08:32

HAHAHAHAHA this is fucking classic, been on what like 5 minutes and im already onto one guy. scorpio2121
Regular posted 04-03-2006 08:43

these guys are fucking scum, he's so obviously grooming me, if i knew this guy's address, i'd physically beat upon him myself. This is the convo so far : top-man36: mornin rebecca rebecca_cutie: hiya top-man36: how are u rebecca_cutie: im ok, little annoyed top-man36: annoyed at what rebecca_cutie: my mum top-man36: what about mum rebecca_cutie: she just shouts all the time, she doesnt realise i can take care of myself rebecca_cutie: enough about me, how are you ? top-man36: whats your age rebecca rebecca_cutie: 13 top-man36: i think mums only tryin to look after u rebecca_cutie: yeah i guess rebecca_cutie: so how are you ? top-man36: dont take to much notice if she shouts a lot lol,im ok thx a bit cold rebecca_cutie: how come your cold ? top-man36: not sure its a cold day dont u think rebecca_cutie: a bit, its windy,thats for sure rebecca_cutie: so where abouts do you live ? top-man36: yes it is,so where are you from,im in lancashire rebecca_cutie: im in gloucestershire top-man36: what town?im near wigan lancs rebecca_cutie: when im at my mums, cirencester, when im at my dad's, stroud rebecca_cutie: what about you ?

top-man36: oh i see,so mum and dad are apart,i live in wigan rebecca_cutie: yeah, they split up about 3 years ago, hit my dad pretty hard, and mums been shouting ever since top-man36: it sounds like mums been takin things out on you rebecca_cutie: maybe top-man36: thats not nice for you is it rebecca_cutie: sometimes i do wwish i could live with my dad all the time top-man36: cant you live with ya dad then rebecca_cutie: nah, something about mum having full custody top-man36: ohh all the legal stuff,well when u get past a certain age u can go where u like rebecca_cutie: yeah, i'd love to go wherever i like now top-man36: do u feel older than 13 then rebecca_cutie: yeah top-man36: just hang on for anothere few years then you ll be free rebecca_cutie: yeah i guess, i just want to run away now top-man36: awww where wud u go to tho rebecca_cutie: no idea pyrozarc
Regular posted 04-03-2006 11:46

Scorpio, thats some good shit. Before you ask him for any money, you should talk to him for longer. You should also see if you can be on to several people at the same time. Means more money for you. Anyway keep up the good work, keep posting the conversations. scorpio2121
Regular posted 04-03-2006 11:48

yeah, basically i've moved onto showing him a pic of 'me' with my ass out, and he's calling me 'babes', so i said ill speak to you tomorrow, and i kept complaining about how much i'd like a webcam. il get onto more convo's soon. Fate
Moderator quote: posted 04-03-2006 13:23

Originally posted by dDIzzIEe: I don't say this too often, and perhaps not often enough, but the original post is obviously bullshit, and frankly some of you who've replied positively to this should know better. First of all, regarding the PO Box. If anyone knows of a place that hands out PO boxes without proof of identification/residence, please do tell... AFAIK, in the US one must have not one, but two forms of ID (primary photo ID and a secondary piece of identification), as well as proof of residence. Don't believe me? Call up your local PO, or check the PO Box application form, available here: www.usps.com/

forms/_pdf/ps1093.pdf . But anyway, the logistics behind obtaining a PO box aren't even important in this case. The fact of the matter is that PO boxes are not anonymous. From the ZIP code/PO Box it is possible to determine which exact physical mailing location the PO box belongs to. Whatever package you receive can and likely will be marked, so when you take that package out of the box the predator will know exactly who you are. Don't think anybody would actually bother going through all the trouble of staking out the post office that's halfway across the country or even around the world? Then step back from the super opportunity of getting a shiny digital camera for a second and ask yourself the common sense question of why the fuck someone who's willing to spend $400 for your camera won't be willing to come to you the moment you hand out a physical address, any address. Drop sites are hardly safe either, so don't get your hopes up. Far be it from me to tell you not to do whatever you want, but remember that the cardinal rule is to be sure that the person you're conning isn't conning you. This is far from safe, and if you've got any illusions of scoring an easy free digicam, think twice about what you're getting into.

Valid points. However, seeing as you are not a 12 year old girl or whatever the original post indicated but probably quite a bit older and quite a bit male, it wouldn't be much of a stretch to take the pedos things, be waiting for him with a bat, and turn his battered carcass over to the police afterwards. Or give him some stylin' cement shoes. Or just give him enough of a thrashing he'll be afraid to get anywhere near a chat room for the rest of his life.

momjesso
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posted 04-03-2006 14:10

This is quite a good idea. I have no problems ripping off child molesters. But one issue about the PO Box. You can rent a REAL address with Mail Boxes etc. down the street or get an internet mail drop address, like with Capital Express, there are lots of places for this. Just search the web for "mail drop". Most of these places will even ship internationally, mail, packages, whatever, so no worries there. I'm old enough to be a grandma, so I'm giving you good advice, ok? WhyteWydow
Regular posted 04-03-2006 15:32

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All I have to say, is that I'm getting the P.O. box today. Great idea my friend. I'm gonna try to get 500 bucks and say it's for a charter bus to wherever they live and buy a pound of regs with it! Great idea man, thank you! ManInBlack
Regular quote: posted 04-03-2006 16:21

Originally posted by Fate: Valid points. However, seeing as you are not a 12 year old girl or whatever the original post indicated but probably quite a bit older and quite a bit male, it wouldn't be much of a stretch to take the pedos things, be waiting for him with a bat, and turn his battered carcass over to the police afterwards. Or give him some stylin' cement shoes. Or just give him enough of a thrashing he'll be afraid to get anywhere near a chat room for the rest of his life.

Yeah, that's what I'm thinking. Obviously, PO Boxes are not anonymous at all without a very good fake ID and risk of serious PATRIOT-act style trouble. However, I think the point is that by far most of these perverts are little shits who can only abuse children. I don't think a full-grown man has much to worry about. And I'd relish the chance to curbstomp a pederast. I'm pretty sure that your average pedophile will be so embarassed to find out that someone other than a child knows his secret and will be glad to pay any sum to shut you up.

Jokke
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posted 04-03-2006 19:38

quote:

Originally posted by Jokke: I have done stuff like this before. Only with Refill cards for my cell phone, I’m going to try a little faster but more risky way. I’m going to get a friend of mine and his girlfriend to help me. My thoughts where basically the same only that we get the perv to meet The girl (my friends girlfriend.) And tell him to bring money for sex. The girl builds up the relationship with the perv, And we jump him when he meets up. Steal all his money and beat him up.

So i found my pedo. And He is driving from Oslo. (About 1 hour drive to my town) So I'm sure that not going to meet him on the street later. He agreed to pay 3500nok (about 522$) to have sex with the 15 year old "Girl" We got as bate. So when he walks out of his car me and my friend is going to beat him up and steal his money. And maybe steal some shit from his car. Wish me luck guys. I'll report back tomorrow Edit: And By me and my friend I of course mean SWIM And SWIMS friend [This message has been edited by Jokke (edited 04-03-2006).] Fate
Moderator posted 04-03-2006 19:47

Man, I can't wait to hear all about this. justaskmeok
Regular posted 04-03-2006 20:26

just my contribution, and these pedos will do anything and pay any price.

HARDMAN
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posted 04-03-2006 20:35

Hey guys, just a little advice. If you can get the guy's phone number you can easily find out where he lives if he's in the phone books. Go to Google and type in "phone number lookup." This will be very helpful if you want to blackmail the guy or the rare possibility that things start to go bad. dirty piss stool
Regular posted 04-03-2006 21:48

I dont know if this was said already, but if you give the fucker your address and he sends you the money you could be like. "My mom found out!" And then he'll be all scared and shit to even go to your house. But this is a good fucking idea.... HTA_37
Regular quote: posted 04-03-2006 22:13

Originally posted by smart_n00b: WOW!!! This really works!! I've already got a 36 year old guy from GA offering to send me 100$ for a webcam. how funny.... I have message archiving on, so when the money is in the mail, I will let everyone see the conversations.. p.s. it only took me about two hours :-P .. If anyone has questions about it just ask. thanks

WHOA! How the fuck did you do that?! 1baddude
Regular posted 04-03-2006 22:26

I'm already working on scamming 3 pedos already. www.freechatnow. com is a perfect place to find pedos. YAHOO and MSN chats are now 18 and above so they wont work if your pretending to be a young girl. The website www.zabasearch.com lists unlisted addresses sand phone numbers for free, it's the best way to search for a pedo's address if you want to blackmail him. I signed up for a p.o. box toady (with i.d.). Only problem is that they asked if anybody else was going to use my p.o. box and I gave them the fake girls name and they said she would need an i. d. to pick up mail. So now i'm gonna have to convince the pedo's (in character) that my mom opens my mail so send it to my friends address (my p.o. box with my real name on envelope) where I can get it and run away that night. Kind of sucks I have to give my name so post office will stick his letter in my box without any problem. The slim chance that the pedos come to my state i'll kick there ass if I have to. Great way to make easy money, the pedos can't go to the cops and if they do they

will be arrested not you lol. [This message has been edited by 1baddude (edited 04-03-2006).] dirty piss stool
Regular posted 04-03-2006 22:59

Dude! This shit is so funny Ive almost got some dude to send me 200 bucks! I LOVE YOU MAN! I dont know how to go about and say, send me the money for it because it would sound sketchy. How should I do it? MAN I said 12/f and about 10 people IM me in a matter of 10 seconds. EDIT: It didnt work cause I dont have good tactis hahaha.... [This message has been edited by dirty piss stool (edited 04-03-2006).] HTA_37
Regular posted 04-03-2006 23:12

Hey guys, I need some help here! What are the best chatrooms? Cuz I went on FreeChatNow.com, and it was just a bunch of lil horny buys wanting a flash And how long does this process usually take? I'm not gettin shit from these people. When I say I want a digicam so I can take pix, they are all like 'yeah'. AND HOW DO YOU PEOPLE GET SHIT?! I need some convo's posted or something!! gunjah
Regular posted 04-03-2006 23:27

im gunna try to get my pedo to buy me this nice bong for my "birthday" tehe. If thats too much maybe ill go for a cheaper one EDIT: had to tiny url it: http://tinyurl.com/py32d [This message has been edited by gunjah (edited 04-03-2006).] 1baddude
Regular quote: posted 04-04-2006 01:07

Originally posted by HTA_37: Hey guys, I need some help here! What are the best chatrooms? Cuz I went on FreeChatNow.com, and it was just a bunch of lil horny buys wanting a flash

And how long does this process usually take? I'm not gettin shit from these people. When I say I want a digicam so I can take pix, they are all like 'yeah'. AND HOW DO YOU PEOPLE GET SHIT?! I need some convo's posted or something!!

Just go to www.freechatnow.com and go to the adult room! thats where all of the pedos are, just type 14/f/hot movin/lookin to meet guys in person or whatever, ive already got a few hundred dollars headin my way. haha.

RP_NS
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posted 04-04-2006 01:44

haha this is great im tryin to make this guy send me stuff im chrissy !~ chrissy ~!~ says: so wat do u tink of mi pic Connor says: your hot Connor says: asl again? ~!~ chrissy ~!~ says: 13 f toronto Connor says: 13 Connor says: mmm Connor says: thats young ~!~ chrissy ~!~says: is dat bad Connor says: no Connor says: it turns me on

PumpingColdHydraulicHeart
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posted 04-04-2006 01:57

.--------------------------------------------------------------------. | Session Start: Monday, April 03, 2006 | | Participants: | | ?-x-$hELbÿ-x-? (@hotmail.com) | | ...ite.com (E-mail Address Not Verified) (@excite.com) | .--------------------------------------------------------------------. [07:32:26 PM] @ex: hey how are u [07:32:41 PM] ?-x-$hELbÿ-x: im kinda happy [07:32:46 PM] ?-x-$hELbÿ-x: going to a party tonight [07:33:10 PM] @ex: really what are u wearing to the party [07:33:21 PM] ?-x-$hELbÿ-x: wouldnt u like to know [07:33:35 PM] @ex: please tell me hunny

[07:34:51 PM] ?-x-$hELbÿ-x: clothes! [07:34:59 PM] @ex: tease, u have a bf? [07:35:08 PM] ?-x-$hELbÿ-x: nope [07:35:15 PM]@ex: are u a virgin? [07:35:24 PM] ?-x-$hELbÿ-x: what a thing to ask [07:35:37 PM] @ex: just curious [07:35:53 PM] ?-x-$hELbÿ-x: are you a virgin [07:36:01 PM] @ex: nope [07:36:09 PM] ?-x-$hELbÿ-x: how old r u [07:36:37 PM] @ex: 19 [07:37:00 PM] ?-x-$hELbÿ-x: whats exite.com [07:37:11 PM] @ex: a search site like yahoo? [07:37:39 PM] ?-x-$hELbÿ-x: o kl [07:40:04 PM] @ex: so are u or are u not a virgin? [07:40:10 PM] ?-x-$hELbÿ-x: im still a virgin [07:40:16 PM] ?-x-$hELbÿ-x: but ive given blowjobs tho [07:40:28 PM] @ex: really, but that would be nice to have u do? [07:40:30 PM] @ex: u swallow? [07:40:52 PM] ?-x-$hELbÿ-x: i never tried to [07:41:06 PM] @ex: tried but can;t? [07:41:12 PM] ?-x-$hELbÿ-x: i dont no yet [07:41:21 PM] ?-x-$hELbÿ-x: becuz i never tried to b4 [07:41:25 PM] @ex: never, so do u make these guys cum? [07:41:55 PM] ?-x-$hELbÿ-x: always [07:42:05 PM] @ex: where do they cum, on u or what? [07:42:18 PM] ?-x-$hELbÿ-x: in my mouth [07:42:59 PM] @ex: bet it is sexy as hell having u down there [07:43:43 PM] ?-x-$hELbÿ-x: lol how do u no [07:43:57 PM] @ex: cause u are hot as hell..... [07:44:10 PM] @ex: there is alot I would like to do with you [07:44:28 PM] ?-x-$hELbÿ-x: theres a lot id like to show u [07:44:35 PM] ?-x-$hELbÿ-x: after i save enuf money [07:44:38 PM] ?-x-$hELbÿ-x: [07:44:46 PM] @ex: what if I just bought it for you [07:44:57 PM] @ex: if it was mailed to ur house would u get into trouble? [07:45:26 PM] ?-x-$hELbÿ-x: well my mom isnt home lots and i usually get the mail [07:45:30 PM] ?-x-$hELbÿ-x: she might ask where i got it [07:45:47 PM] @ex: if u think u can hide it I will send it to you [07:46:05 PM] ?-x-$hELbÿ-x: i can say i borrowed it from 1 of my friends [07:46:12 PM] ?-x-$hELbÿ-x: ill brb k? [07:46:18 PM] @ex: k [07:46:21 PM] * ?-x-$hELbÿ-x-? is now Be Right Back [This message has been edited by PumpingColdHydraulicHeart (edited 04-04-2006).] Rowy
Regular posted 04-04-2006 02:47

Haha. I'm a girl, this will be even easier. Actually if you think about it, you guys know what sick fuckers will do so you have some sort of insane advantage.

PumpingColdHydraulicHeart
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posted 04-04-2006 03:07

quote:

Originally posted by Rowy: Haha. I'm a girl, this will be even easier. Actually if you think about it, you guys know what sick fuckers will do so you have some sort of insane advantage.

stay off of our turf. the pedo business is ours nooner
Regular posted 04-04-2006 04:02

lmao, priceless convos, guys. I'm thinking of getting the PO box and explaining that it's my cousin Danny's, that my parents usually open my mail so my cousin lets me use his PO box. Need to get a little cash first so I can register one though. HARDMAN
Regular posted 04-04-2006 04:28

FUCK! I totally had this 37 year old guy in my pocket, but then my internet connection fucked up AS USUAL and by the time I was able to log back on 3 minutes later he had promptly signed off. I still have his username so I might be able to find him online again, but fuck I don't know if he trusts me anymore. I totally had that guy! Be careful, because some of these guys will offer to come visit you. This guy wanted to visit me and of course I played the whole oppressive mother card. When this guy asked to come visit me I didn't want to give him the cold shoulder, so I told him that my mother was too oppressive to let me out, but I would be free when summer vacation came along. Does anyone find it scary how many willing sex offenders there are in this country? I posted in a chatroom that I was a 15 year old girl and I swear I got like 10 private messages.

PumpingColdHydraulicHeart
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posted 04-04-2006 04:39

indeed. shit man i thought some people were exaggerating a bit, but as soon as i said 12 / f any older guys? BAM fifteen mafuckers just message me one after the other, it was insane. these guys are DIRTY motherfuckers man. shady as shit 1baddude
Regular posted 04-04-2006 04:46

Getting money is easy but you have to get in the psychological mindframe sort of on thier wavelength.
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Begin-- find pics of some cute innocent girl off myspace, have them ready to send to him on msn messenger as bait, 1. Know when to cut your losses and move on to another pedo that's worth your time. 2 Men in 30's or 40's are best to hit. 3. Let them know you can be a bad girl but your still a virgin (they like the innosence) 4. sweeten up to them, let them know they've gained your trust. 5. gradually bring up your situation with crazy mom storie. 6. Ask where they are from and if it's a good place to live. 7. Manipulate them on a personall level, make them feel you can fulfill thier sick needs (bondage,sex,desiplin,whatever) 8. Now is the time to incorpatate the whole "hey im movin soon and not sure where to go,99% of the time they are willing to help. 9. seal the deal with cash payment,tell them you are so thankful for thier help and cant wait to see them.

10. continue talking with them for a good 20 min. at least to make them think your really into coming to see them.Talk with them the next day to make sure they sent payment/keep in touch with until you pretend to leave. After you get payment tell them you are leaving to see them, after about a week they will think you got lost on the way. I have about $300 on the way for me already. Just be smart and lead good convos, become that girl for that time. This is fucked up and I laugh about it all the time. Follow my guidelines and you will be golden. [This message has been edited by 1baddude (edited 04-04-2006).]

PumpingColdHydraulicHeart
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posted 04-04-2006 04:50

quote:

Originally posted by HARDMAN: [B]FUCK! I totally had this 37 year old guy in my pocket, but then my internet connection fucked up AS USUAL and by the time I was able to log back ....B]

wtf. was that you talking to me about panties and stockings? hard_man?

HARDMAN
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posted 04-04-2006 05:37

quote:

Originally posted by PumpingColdHydraulicHeart: wtf. was that you talking to me about panties and stockings? hard_man?

No. Must be a coincidence. Danger
Regular posted 04-04-2006 06:19

my god the world is a dirty fucking disgusting place... I was in their for like 20 minutes but all I got was one guy who wanted to send me a webcam.. Well thats fuckin gay and fuck that.. Im done with this for now but im going to do it for sure this is gold. Seriously.. I got too many messages I couldnt talk to all the pervs.. So, so many.. deadkennedy
Regular posted 04-04-2006 06:20

here's my take on this. i am a 17 year old male. i could easily rent out a hotel room or something. just get the pervert to come to the hotel. i could say i ran away or something or fuck it just say i am horny and like 15. thats pretty descent. you can always get people to come. then as soon as they come to the door take a picture, their wallet, and print out he conversation. tell them next time you see them you want 2000 bucks as a down payment and keep extorting them. don't go too overboard. take a couple people with you to seriously beat these fuckers up. if the cops come, just be "honest". tell them you were doing a prank and wanted to exploite some perverts.

i mean, when they come to the door, you take their picture throw them into the room. if you have 3 guys with you they will probably not try to fight. just say hey... give us your wallet. of course they will. (check for guns) take down their address. if they don't have a wallet..which would be smart... have someone go out to their car and get it( you were watching tem come in weren't you?). Take down information about them. All you have to say is ask them how much they will give you. If they say fuck off... dont try to beat them up... simply call the police and tell them you were on the internet and this pervert came to your hotel... he will try to say you were going to blackmail him.... but they will figure that he would have accepted if you did... or you could say he offered to give you money or something... sorry about the rambling its just 3am.

nooner
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posted 04-04-2006 06:58

quote:

Originally posted by deadkennedy: here's my take on this. i am a 17 year old male. i could easily rent out a hotel room or something. just get the pervert to come to the hotel. i could say i ran away or something or fuck it just say i am horny and like 15. thats pretty descent. you can always get people to come. then as soon as they come to the door take a picture, their wallet, and print out he conversation. tell them next time you see them you want 2000 bucks as a down payment and keep extorting them. don't go too overboard. take a couple people with you to seriously beat these fuckers up. if the cops come, just be "honest". tell them you were doing a prank and wanted to exploite some perverts. i mean, when they come to the door, you take their picture throw them into the room. if you have 3 guys with you they will probably not try to fight. just say hey... give us your wallet. of course they will. (check for guns) take down their address. if they don't have a wallet..which would be smart... have someone go out to their car and get it( you were watching tem come in weren't you?). Take down information about them. All you have to say is ask them how much they will give you. If they say fuck off... dont try to beat them up... simply call the police and tell them you were on the internet and this pervert came to your hotel... he will try to say you were going to blackmail him.... but they will figure that he would have accepted if you did... or you could say he offered to give you money or something... sorry about the rambling its just 3am.

This is stupid. With the "gifts" idea there is nothing prosecutable. As soon as you grab him, you've just accepted a kidnapping and assault charge. Then comes charges for extortion, verbal harassment, yada yada yada. Not to mention a guy would most likely go into such a situation expecting a sting since that's how cops set it up. Chances are if he did go to the cops the judge would throw out your circumstantial and possibly fabricated evidence, not to mention it would fuck everything up for the rest of us since that's the kind of happening that could make the news.

Don't be a dumbass, don't be greedy. This is a gradual buildup of chump change deal. You want to do extortion, there's much better ways of going about it. Danger
Regular posted 04-04-2006 07:05

TIP- AN EASY WAY TO TALK THEM INTO GIVING YOU GIFTS FAST IS BY TELLING THEM ITS YOUR BIRTHDAY SOON. ShadyAsShit
Regular posted 04-04-2006 07:06

i agree. let's just keep all links to ourselves. that way we may be more dispersed and there would be more opportunities for everyone wanting to scam child molestors. Yay for everyone! dirty piss stool
Regular posted 04-04-2006 07:21

I used that pic of that chick in SG where the kid said it was his 13 year old sister and she had spongebob pants on with her pants partially down... It worked great and hilariously. scorpio2121
Regular posted 04-04-2006 07:27

I can still use the yahoo chat rooms, but im thinking of moving onto chat now becuase quite frankly im getting bored of the shitty link process they've got on yahoo. Problem for me though: my ocmoputer fucked up and now when you have programs up, they dont come up in the task bar, how fucked up, i like the birthday idea and will try it out later. cheers for the convo's guys, they are worth the read for a good laugh. edit: dirty piss pool, thats the same pic i used , hahaha [This message has been edited by scorpio2121 (edited 04-04-2006).] ShadyAsShit
Regular posted 04-04-2006 09:17

man. i got that one fucker in the bag for a webcam. now i'm working my way up to this other guy to send me some $$ for a 'bus ticket' i told him some sob story about how 'shelby' has to get out of town because she aided in a murder haha. and he seems to have bought it. this guy is wiggidy wiggidy wack he seems really guilt ridden and everything. very hesitant. can't wait until i say "PWNED!"

justaskmeok
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posted 04-04-2006 11:16

i didnt think this postwould low up like this. i have another one, thats even better, but imma wait a lil while to contribute. i gave out this idea and all i got was some food stamps. nLS
Regular posted 04-04-2006 11:31

Ok, sounds like a good plan, we still have to problem of getting the money/items, any ideas for getting said items in the UK? nLS
Regular posted 04-04-2006 11:43

omg your right i went in with the name barbie_13 got 6 pms instantly nLS
Regular posted 04-04-2006 11:51

http://tinyurl.com/oxd8v hahahahahaha alexkrycek
Regular posted 04-04-2006 15:11

Tell them (initially) that you've just moved. When you've received the package, get in contact with them asap and say "Shit, I'm sooo sorry but I gave you the wrong address." Assuming you've done a good job, they'll believe you and let it go. It doesn't matter if they're mad or just plain murderous. It's unlikely that they'll spend another $300 for a plane ticket just to verify whether or not you're lying. Just keep playing the innocent (but stupid) girl and they may not suspect that you're trying to con them. Or you can pull that eBay scam: just claim you never got it. We've also been assuming that you can only get tangible goods out of this scam. What about online porn? This is a great way to get access to those premium sites. Just act like you're excited by that stuff. Or you can get some expensive software out of it (just don't ask for something like Final Cut Pro). [This message has been edited by alexkrycek (edited 04-04-2006).]

nooner
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posted 04-04-2006 19:30

quote:

Originally posted by alexkrycek: Tell them (initially) that you've just moved. When you've received the package, get in contact with them asap and say "Shit, I'm sooo sorry but I gave you the wrong address." Assuming you've done a good job, they'll believe you and let it go. It doesn't matter if they're mad or just plain murderous. It's unlikely that they'll spend another $300 for a plane ticket just to verify whether or not you're lying. Just keep playing the innocent (but stupid) girl and they may not suspect that you're trying to con them. Or you can pull that eBay scam: just claim you never got it. We've also been assuming that you can only get tangible goods out of this scam. What about online porn? This is a great way to get access to those premium sites. Just act like you're excited by that stuff. Or you can get some expensive software out of it (just don't ask for something like Final Cut Pro).

"Did you ever send me that webcam? What? No, I live at 13 Teanik drive, not 13 Peanik drive! No wonder I didn't get it!" Jokke
Regular posted 04-04-2006 20:19

So my plan fucked up. I planed to meet the guy at a school near by. But I didn’t know that there was a conference or something that day. So the school’s parking lot (Where we where going to jump him) was filled with cars students and parents and teachers. So we had no idea of ho was the perv. And even if we did we would get busted for sure. [This message has been edited by Jokke (edited 04-04-2006).] HTA_37
Regular quote: posted 04-04-2006 21:28

Originally posted by Jokke: So my plan fucked up. I planed to meet the guy at a school near by. But I didn’t know that there was a conference or something that day. So the school’s parking lot (Where we where going to jump him) was filled with cars students and parents and teachers. So we had

no idea of ho was the perv. And even if we did we would get busted for sure.

Shit. That sucks. Anyway... I've moved on to using the Yahoo! Flirt room, becuase the freechatnow. com shit is just gay. I'll report back later. blue_tacos
Regular posted 04-04-2006 22:17

So what is the most secure way to getting something? From what I've read, PO Boxes are not very safe. Thanks

HTA_37
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posted 04-04-2006 22:19

Wow. I suck at this. Scamming pedos is not my thing. I'm gonna give a few more shots at it, but then I'm moving on. Anyone got any good tips before I give up?? 1baddude
Regular quote: posted 04-04-2006 22:21

Originally posted by HTA_37: Shit. That sucks. Anyway... I've moved on to using the Yahoo! Flirt room, becuase the freechatnow.com shit is just gay. I'll report back later.

The freechatnow.com is not gay, your probaly not doing it right. Go thier and enter the adults room. As soon as you do thier are tons of old horny basturds messaging you already. But what you want to do is type this on the main message post so everyone sees it -- 14/f/hot movin/lookin to meet guys in person , they immediatly see this and think hmm, this young girl is moving soon. (If there wondering where your moving to you know that they are looking to bang that young girl.) Then they message you and ask about where your moving to and thats when you start with the whole not sure yet/crazy mom storie. I already have pedos on my msn lined up to help the girl out any way possible and I have money in the mail on the way from this

chatroom. It is the perfect place to do buissiness. Hell I would do this for a full time job but it wouldn't be good when the I.R.S comes knockin on my door wondering where I get my income from. Trust me it works. : ) Also be careful that these sick basturds don't have a gun handy on them if you jump them because I don't want anyone to get shot while trying this. 1baddude
Regular posted 04-04-2006 22:25

Read my guidelines I posted near the bottom of page 2, they should help out greatly if anyone is having trouble. HTA_37
Regular quote: posted 04-04-2006 22:25

Originally posted by 1baddude: [QUOTE]Originally posted by HTA_37: [b] Shit. That sucks. Anyway... I've moved on to using the Yahoo! Flirt room, becuase the freechatnow.com shit is just gay. I'll report back later.

The freechatnow.com is not gay, your probaly not doing it right. Go thier and enter the adults room. As soon as you do thier are tons of old horny basturds messaging you already. But what you want to do is type this on the main message post so everyone sees it -- 14/f/hot movin/lookin to meet guys in person , they immediatly see this and think hmm, this young girl is moving soon. (If there wondering where your moving to you know that they are looking to bang that young girl.) Then they message you and ask about where your moving to and thats when you start with the whole not sure yet/crazy mom storie. I already have pedos on my msn lined up to help the girl out any way possible and I have money in the mail on the way from this chatroom. It is the perfect place to do buissiness. Hell I would do this for a full time job but it wouldn't be good when the I.R.S comes knockin on my door wondering where I get my income from. Trust me it works. : ) Also be careful that these sick basturds don't have a gun handy on them if you jump them because I don't want anyone to get shot while trying this. [/B][/QUOTE] Hey, thanks, I'll try that. But I'm still giving up, lol.

1baddude
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posted 04-04-2006 22:30

quote:

Originally posted by HTA_37: Hey, thanks, I'll try that. But I'm still giving up, lol.

Don't give up, it's so easy, 1 pedo = $150 a pop. I figure asking for $500 gas money to travel like 1200 miles is a little bit ridiculous and he might catch on, so I tell him i have like like $50 saved up then I swindle him into sending $150. If you can find a really twisted pedo than milk him for like $300 or $400, tell him you'll bring a friend or something, lol Just be creative. Also it may take an hour to gain rapport and make a strong emotional connection between you to but for $150 /hour thats not bad. Make them feel a physical and emotional connection for you. Sorry i'm rambling, i'm just so into this makin money thing lol, [This message has been edited by 1baddude (edited 04-04-2006).] HTA_37
Regular posted 04-04-2006 22:58

I think I'm catching a fish here, lol. I think this dude is gonna send me a cam!

HTA_37
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posted 04-04-2006 23:16

Oh snap guys, I think I fucked up. I wuhz talkin to this dude and I was about to get something, when he asked to call me. In the spur of the moment, I gave him my phone number and had my sis talk to him, now my mom's pissed cuz she thinks hes gonna track our phone number (even tho it's unlisted) and kill us. Lol. (I didn't mean the lol part) 1baddude
Regular posted 04-04-2006 23:42

This ladies and gentlemen is some phucked up stuff your about to see. It's about the 5th convo i've had with him, this isn't even one twentyth of the sick shit i've had to endure either. But he already sent $150 plus i'm gonna milk him for another $300 cause hes that twisted and hes in love with me lol.I spelt bad on purpose also. sarah says: hye my dirty lil man 2. lol sarah says: brian says: hey sexy

sarah says: hey baby brian says: hows my girl brian says: you have your home work done sarah says: pretty much but id rather talk 2 u lol brian says: lol I know more like you want to sexually abuse me sarah says: oh yur so right its hurts lol literally its going to brian says: good brian says: I cannot wait sarah says: me either brian says: I want my body to hurt so bad from you sarah says: ur gonna b all bruised up good sarah says: when im threw sarah says: with u sarahsays: then im gonna start all over sarah says: again n again sarah says: ur gonna luv it sarah says: u there baby? brian says: yes sarah says: have u been thinkin about what ur gonna do 2 me 2 brian says: good will you leave perm bruises on me sarah says: oh yes brian says: yes brian says: good adn you gonna scratch your name in me with a knife sarah says: oh yes i will and then sum brian says: would you make me drink your pee brian says: good sarah says: i have much in store for u! brian says: good brian says: so did you make up a shopping list lol sarah says: yes lol, in my purse brian says:

cool read it off to me please sarah says: k let me get it brian says: ok sarah says: 1 min sarah says: k ill read a lil and the rest will be a suprise brian says: ok brian says: read the good part sarahsays: ok sarah says: bamboo stick,horse whip, furr handcuffs,whip creme, pino pong paddle lol i cant wait brian says: mmmmmmmmmmmnice sarah says: i have more suprisess 2 brian says: great brian says: so would you make me drink your pee too sarah says: oh id squirt it right ion ur mouth brian says: great brian says: I could rip that top right off you sarah says: oh yes brian says: hey do you want me to wear underwear when we meet and go shopping sarah says: ya, make sum slits 2 brian says: or do you want me to get rid of all of them or ahve you do that brian says: ok brian says: I am actually making some slits in them now sarah says: oh perfect sarahsays: do u think ill be able 2 leave tomro night sarah says: ? sarah says: if ur letter comes brian says: I sent it today sarah says: good, hopefully i can leave tomro nite sarah says: brian says: yes brian says:

I do so much wantto be you bitch boy sarah says: im gonna buy leather to and dress u and me up in it brian says: great brian says: hey guess what I bought today sarah says: what? brian says: somethign you will like sarah says: niceeee brian says: some bikini panties and a couple skirts for me toi wear brian says: you like sarah says: nice brian, im gonna make more tears in em with my teeth brian says: good sarahsays: and blind fold u and get out the horsewhip brian says: nice hopefull on my cock sarahsays: brian says: I love you so much sarah says: i luv u 2, i cant wait for us tm meet in person brian says: me too brian says: so would you like me to put on a pair of panties right now sarah says: yes, do u have a matching top? brian says: no but we can get some for me when we go shopping brian says: ok brb sarah says: k [This message has been edited by 1baddude (edited 04-04-2006).] Danger
Regular posted 04-04-2006 23:55

^haha man thats some vile shit.. And its so fucking easy... I might giver another go today, but definantly this weekend.. It feels so fucking dirty though....

ShadyAsShit
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posted 04-05-2006 00:18

This dude i talked to was all into scat.... and he was wearing his masturbation pants with a cockhole in them hahahaha 1baddude
Regular posted 04-05-2006 00:21

CHA CHING!!! Yes now I convinced him to send at least $300 more dollars, i told him now i want to fly over to see him and that I would need money for the ticket and need money to buy pain inflicting devices on him. He wants me to make him his slave and dominate him, eewwyy i need to take a shower, I feel so fucking filthy --filthy rich that is. Boy hes gonna be sad when I never show at the airport... [This message has been edited by 1baddude (edited 04-05-2006).] ShadyAsShit
Regular quote: posted 04-05-2006 00:42

Originally posted by 1baddude: CHA CHING!!! Yes now I convinced him to send at least $300 more dollars, i told him now i want to fly over to see him and that I would need money for the ticket and need money to buy pain inflicting devices on him. He wants me to make him his slave and dominate him, eewwyy i need to take a shower, I feel so fucking filthy --filthy rich that is. Boy hes gonna be sad when I never show at the airport...

aaaahahahaha pwnage. HTA_37
Regular posted 04-05-2006 00:50

Lol, you guys are lucky, I can't find anymore pervs. I'm getting like 30 year olds that say I'm too young. I even boosted my age up to 17. I had one guy, but I lost him cuz I said he could call anymore. pkrchmp012
Regular posted 04-05-2006 00:52

i prlly wouldn't do it but i will give credit where it's due.

HTA_37
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posted 04-05-2006 01:09

Lol, I think we got a perv here! ahaha Ok, I got one desperate dude, but idk if its a 'one night IM stand' or not. Report back later. (PS: God it feels so dirty talkin to these people) RP_NS
Regular posted 04-05-2006 01:26

ok this is fucked up, i was talking to a pervert yesterday in a chat room and he adds me on msn messenger so that i could send him my picture, and today i was talking to him again and it turns out that he added me on his 15 year old sons account, and i was talking to his son, heres the conversation .. ~!~ chrissy ~!~ says: hey brandon says: hey ~!~ chrissy ~!~says: wats up brandon says: nm u ~!~ chrissy ~!~says: nm ~!~ chrissy ~!~ says: do u hav a pic brandon says: display brandon says: do u ~!~ chrissy ~!~says: how old r u again brandon says: 15 ~!~ chrissy ~!~says: o ~!~ chrissy ~!~ WHO WANTS REACH STC TOMMORO ?? says: did u add me brandon says: idk brandon says: do u have a pic ~!~ chrissy ~!~says: ya ~!~ chrissy ~!~ WHO WANTS REACH STC TOMMORO ?? says: wher u from again brandon says: wow brandon says: colorado ~!~ chrissy ~!~says: lol brandon says: u r hot

~!~ chrissy ~!~says: i think theres something u should know lol brandon says: what ~!~ chrissy ~!~says: ur dad is a peadophile ~!~ chrissy ~!~says: lol brandon says: what ~!~ chrissy ~!~says: ur dad is a peadophile brandon says: what are u talking about ~!~ chrissy ~!~says: he was talkin to me in this chat room yesterday n then he went on ur account n added me brandon says: when was this, like what time yesterday ~!~ chrissy ~!~says: like at night time ~!~ chrissy ~!~ says: is his name andrew brandon says: holy fuck brandon says: he told u his real name ~!~ chrissy ~!~says: andrew was like his nick name thing in the chat room ~!~ chrissy ~!~says: so ya brandon says: thats his real name brandon says: what was he doing that u called him a pedo ~!~ chrissy ~!~says: because i put 14 f lookin for older guys n he message me n add me brandon says: omg brandon says: what the hell do i do haha HTA_37
Regular posted 04-05-2006 01:31

ahahaha, I feel kinda bad for that Brandon kid. I think I'm developing something, I keep hinting I need a cam too mizz_sexii_azz: I wish I could send you some naked pix wildside2k1: can u send mizz_sexii_azz: no, I dont have a cam I hope this goes well *Crosses fingers* Oh, and good luck to everyone else who's not gettin anywhere with this.

1baddude
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posted 04-05-2006 01:53

I just went to www.freechatnow.com adult room and did my thing and 6 people im'd me only being there 5 seconds. Don't forget to make a fake yahoo email for the "girl". Also add the sickos worth your time to ur msn messenger (sign up for msn passport with yahoo email add.) soon after you begin feeling them out for potential profit. This is to great. [This message has been edited by 1baddude (edited 04-05-2006).] slosh
Regular posted 04-05-2006 03:14

So, what address are you giving these people? P.O. boxes can lead to problems and are some times hard to get. 1baddude
Regular posted 04-05-2006 03:23

There is no age limit to get a p.o. box,just need i.d., I'm just having money sent to my p.o. box. slosh
Regular quote: posted 04-05-2006 03:25

Originally posted by 1baddude: There is no age limit to get a p.o. box,just need i.d., I'm just having money sent to my p.o. box.

Yes, but as it was mentioned earlier in the thread P.O. boxes are not completely anonymous. I don't realy like the idea that it may be possible for these people to track me down. 1baddude
Regular quote: posted 04-05-2006 03:49

Originally posted by slosh: Yes, but as it was mentioned earlier in the thread P.O. boxes are not completely anonymous. I don't realy like the idea that it may be possible for these people to track me down.

Well i'm actually giving the pedos my real name and po box. The post office asked if anyone else would be using my po box and i told them this sarah girl would and she was my girlfriend but they said she would have to show id to pick up mail with her name on it. So that ruined my chances of cash being sent to sarahs name at my po box. If mail just starts showing up addressed to somone else to ur po box they will hold the mail and wonder why that girl doesnt register her own po box. So i'm just giving the pedos my real info and saying (in character)that the address is a friend of sarah because sarahs mom opens her mail. I'm not worried about them tracking me down. Firstly the post office won't just hand them my real address, even if they do pay $70 or more to search my real address I can a. deny everything b.kick thier ass c. say a family just moved out a week ago and he just missed them b4 they moved or just kick his ass then go to the police with the records. The 1 in a million chance they would actually get up off from thier lazy asses they would be coming for what reason? To kidnapp a girl? I'm sure he knows he would either be shot trying to kidnap a girl or the police would arrest him if he tried that. Trust me they are not going to track anyone down.Even if they know they got scammed they are smart enough to think that a full grown man scammed them and theres no sense in travelling 1200 miles to get thier asses handed to them. Everyone needs to stop being paranoid lol It's no big deal. [This message has been edited by 1baddude (edited 04-05-2006).] loadedpeace
Regular posted 04-05-2006 05:43

So far I've just been working on a couple people on the freechatnow.com site, and I think I may have a couple good leads. I talked to one guy who I think may have actually not been a pedo, & was just being nice, which was funny considering the cirumstances. My favorite line was when he said "Sorry about your parents, I was lucky to have great ones." Um hm. Then why are you chatting here? Anyway, what other sites are people using to chat up these freaks and what are some good sites for photos, I've only been using myspace so far & just finding young looking 18 year olds. ApocFrenzy
Regular posted 04-05-2006 06:01

Why don't you just have them not write a name on the package. That way they will still deliver it and you don't have to give any name... gadzooks
Regular posted 04-05-2006 06:31

These poor dudes are just lookin' for some lovin'. You people are all sick! gadzooks
Regular posted 04-05-2006 06:34

Oh, and to the original poster, cut the "12/f/cali" act while your on totse. Your spelling and grammar are horrendous.

dirty piss stool
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posted 04-05-2006 07:20

Dude, I already got some motherfucker sending me 150 $ cash!!!!!!! Now I hope he doesnt jizz all over it! scorpio2121
Regular posted 04-05-2006 07:36

^ bet he does anyway, im gonna try free chat now because yahoo is getting a bit over rated, ill tell you guys how it turns out, as for the p.o box, im using safe houses until i can scam enough money to pay for one. midgeymonkey2
Regular quote: posted 04-05-2006 13:01

Originally posted by RP_NS: ok this is fucked up, i was talking to a pervert yesterday in a chat room and he adds me on msn messenger so that i could send him my picture, and today i was talking to him again and it turns out that he added me on his 15 year old sons account, and i was talking to his son, heres the conversation .. ~!~ chrissy ~!~ says: hey brandon says: hey ~!~ chrissy ~!~says: wats up brandon says: nm u ~!~ chrissy ~!~says: nm ~!~ chrissy ~!~ says: do u hav a pic brandon says: display brandon says: do u ~!~ chrissy ~!~says: how old r u again brandon says: 15 ~!~ chrissy ~!~says: o ~!~ chrissy ~!~ WHO WANTS REACH STC TOMMORO ?? says: did u add me brandon says: idk

brandon says: do u have a pic ~!~ chrissy ~!~says: ya ~!~ chrissy ~!~ WHO WANTS REACH STC TOMMORO ?? says: wher u from again brandon says: wow brandon says: colorado ~!~ chrissy ~!~says: lol brandon says: u r hot ~!~ chrissy ~!~says: i think theres something u should know lol brandon says: what ~!~ chrissy ~!~says: ur dad is a peadophile ~!~ chrissy ~!~says: lol brandon says: what ~!~ chrissy ~!~says: ur dad is a peadophile brandon says: what are u talking about ~!~ chrissy ~!~says: he was talkin to me in this chat room yesterday n then he went on ur account n added me brandon says: when was this, like what time yesterday ~!~ chrissy ~!~says: like at night time ~!~ chrissy ~!~ says: is his name andrew brandon says: holy fuck brandon says: he told u his real name ~!~ chrissy ~!~says: andrew was like his nick name thing in the chat room ~!~ chrissy ~!~says: so ya brandon says: thats his real name brandon says: what was he doing that u called him a pedo ~!~ chrissy ~!~says: because i put 14 f lookin for older guys n he message me n add me brandon says: omg brandon says: what the hell do i do haha

haha!that is fucking awesome! yay for destroying pedo's lives!*dances*

midgeymonkey2
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posted 04-05-2006 13:08

Hey,i live in australia.im assuming most of you are working out of america. I'm thinking,should i say,"i have a friend who lives in australia,and if you send it to her first t won't be as suspicious to my mum" what do you think?anyone want an accomplice, [email protected]

1baddude
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posted 04-05-2006 21:52

quote:

Originally posted by midgeymonkey2: Hey,i live in australia.im assuming most of you are working out of america. I'm thinking,should i say,"i have a friend who lives in australia, and if you send it to her first t won't be as suspicious to my mum" what do you think?anyone want an accomplice, [email protected]

Hey midgemonkey, when you find the right pedophile you have it made!!! Because after you both have talked for a week or two say you will fly to see him and the plane ticket will be $879.00. It may take more time to find one that will want to give that much money but the profit will be worth it. ShadyAsShit
Regular quote: posted 04-05-2006 22:19

Originally posted by midgeymonkey2: Hey,i live in australia.im assuming most of you are working out of america. I'm thinking,should i say,"i have a friend who lives in australia, and if you send it to her first t won't be as suspicious to my mum"

what do you think?anyone want an accomplice, [email protected]

that's shady as hell. I'm in canada and i already told the dude i was in canada. but i don't have an address so i'm trying to figure a way for him to send it to my friend in the states, who will then send it to me. but that's suspicious. so i'm getting my pal to get me an address. werd HTA_37
Regular posted 04-05-2006 23:22

You guys are all pretty good at this. Lol. I don't have good tactics. Oh well, I'm gonna try a few more, I got a bunch of pix this time, so yeah... HTA_37
Regular posted 04-05-2006 23:51

I think I got a dude now. Lol, I hope I don't mess this one up

Loc Dogg
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posted 04-06-2006 00:04

I'm gonna try this too. I'll be out of a job in two weeks so I'll need some money while I look for another job. Could you all post the pics of these girls you are using? I suck at finding pics of young slutty girls. I just hope there are these kinds of sick pedos in Australia. I need money!!!

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u want money huh? free? easy scam? come in

HTA_37
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posted 04-06-2006 00:24

quote:

Originally posted by Loc Dogg: I'm gonna try this too. I'll be out of a job in two weeks so I'll need some money while I look for another job. Could you all post the pics of these girls you are using? I suck at finding pics of young slutty girls. I just hope there are these kinds of sick pedos in Australia. I need money!!!

Just go on myspace.com, or tagged.com 1baddude
Regular posted 04-06-2006 00:40

Get this, the same guy I am conning now is on his cam wearing panties,skirt, panties on his head also,drawing with markers on his skin etc. This is a short list of what he wants sarah to do to him--Shave his head,clamp him with plyers and vicegrip,abuse him,make him submit,break his bones he says pain=pleasure, spraypaint him,carve sarahs name in him with a knife,suspend him from a beam, make him wear womens clothing that sarahs peed on,pee in his mouth, This shit is just wrong, that's just the stuff off the top of my head. NO JOKE, but hey he's sending $380 total so i'm happy. This guy is deranged!!!! ive had to talk to him for like 7 hours total so far but after tomro when he thinks sarahs boarding the plane i'm threw with this shit with him. GROSSSS HTA_37
Regular quote: posted 04-06-2006 00:47

Originally posted by 1baddude: Get this, the same guy I am conning now is on his cam wearing panties,skirt,panties on his head also,drawing with markers on his skin etc. This is a short list of what he wants sarah to do to him--Shave his head,clamp him with plyers and vicegrip,abuse him,make him submit,break his bones he says pain=pleasure,spraypaint him,carve sarahs name in him with a knife,suspend him from a beam,make him wear womens clothing that sarahs peed on,pee in his mouth, This shit is just wrong, that's just the stuff off the top of my head. NO JOKE, but hey he's sending $380 total so i'm happy. This guy is deranged!!!! ive had to talk to him for like 7 hours total so far but after tomro when he thinks sarahs boarding the plane i'm threw with this shit with him. GROSSSS

Lol, wtf, that guy is messed up. bad. 1baddude
Regular posted 04-06-2006 01:00

So what's everyones status on this so far? How is everyone coming?

Acorn
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posted 04-06-2006 01:01

WOW That's ingenious! Thanks Millixion
Regular posted 04-06-2006 01:10

Someone brought this up on page 2: What about having them send you money to paypal? Would it seem shady if you told someone that you wanted a webcam, and when they offered to send you one, you whined about how you wanted to pick out your own. Then get him to send you money, but say you want to buy it on ebay, and to send you money to your paypal account insead. This is such a fucking good idea, too. Props to the OP. slosh
Regular posted 04-06-2006 02:30

So you are all using P.O. boxes with your real name then? HTA_37
Regular quote: posted 04-06-2006 02:40

Originally posted by 1baddude: So what's everyones status on this so far? How is everyone coming?

Pretty bad. I've got a couple of pedos, but I suck at bringing up webcams and money, without sounding too shady, so on sat. I'm going to a friends house and we're going to work on this together.

ApocFrenzy
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posted 04-06-2006 02:45

Maybe you guys will find this helpful http://www.reputablefirm.com/maildrop. html

Millixion
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posted 04-06-2006 03:07

Yeah, I got like 5 guys talking to me. I'm pretty sure that most of them are just looking to roleplay, get off, and leave. How do you spot a milker? slosh
Regular quote: posted 04-06-2006 03:18

Originally posted by Millixion: Yeah, I got like 5 guys talking to me. I'm pretty sure that most of them are just looking to roleplay, get off, and leave. How do you spot a milker?

Watch him through his webcam, I guess. smart_n00b
Regular quote: posted 04-06-2006 04:00

Originally posted by 1baddude: So what's everyones status on this so far? How is everyone coming?

I received 100$ yesterday for a "webcam" And I'm expecting 120$ monday.. lol this is so fun.. and easy.. them gullible pedo's just wont learn...

justaskmeok
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posted 04-06-2006 04:15

quote:

Originally posted by Millixion: Someone brought this up on page 2: What about having them send you money to paypal? Would it seem shady if you told someone that you wanted a webcam, and when they offered to send you one, you whined about how you wanted to pick out your own. Then get him to send you money, but say you want to buy it on ebay, and to send you money to your paypal account insead. This is such a fucking good idea, too. Props to the OP.

<--- thanksbro,i appreciate that

scorpio2121
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posted 04-06-2006 09:54

Guy's i have a problem, i got this guy to send me a computer but where the hell should he send it ?, i dont want it to be sent to my house, so where should i send it?, any help would be appreciated. batranelu
Regular posted 04-06-2006 11:45

hmmm very good ideea ... in my opinion ripping off sick perverts is the right thing to do cause it makes me feel good about myself :P ... can i get some chat rooms filled with these perverts ? Jacobjac
Regular posted 04-06-2006 12:11

Day 1: Bad. I feel I'm doing a well enough job at it.. Enough to make 2 men cum anyway. I had to sit there through one guy doing it on cam. I felt I had these two guys hooked.. After they finished their business, I got blocked. That adult chat is a goldmine. Very hard to keep up. I keep touching on the subject of getting out but the most I got was from one guy, saying he would pick me up -_- I thought I had him baited well.. But when

he finished up.. He went. Nonetheless there's a few on my MSN so I can try tomorrow if theyre online. I have no idea how you're all getting these gifts.. You've obviously managed to get the lowest people out there.. Or, the lowest people out there, with money to spend on little girls. The logs are great.. one guy wanted to 'deflower' me. I had some mates over when he said that. Goodness. Ah yes.. Also.. I live in the UK, Canada, Australia and the USA. grayboy
Regular quote: posted 04-06-2006 14:42

Originally posted by Fayt: Actually this can and would easily. I've seen a website where this girl will post ANY seductive picture on there... if you ask right. No nudity, just underwear shots. Well, guys will send her money, underwear to wear, etc. No body has ever seen her face either... it's all body shots. Seriously, her whole ward drobe was bought by random guys online. Some people will pay anything for their kicks.

OMG FUCKING PERVS ps what were you doing there? Kurtis0
Regular posted 04-06-2006 21:57

This is funny and all, but I cant seem to get anyone to offer money or cameras or anything...God theres some sick fucks out there.Im gonna keep at it until I get SOMETHING other than sick perverts asking me what im wearing and shit Fuzi0nX
Regular posted 04-06-2006 22:05

I dont see how you convince someone to send you money to "come see them" especially if your a "14 year old girl"..i dunno..and..how the hell do you talk someone into sending a computer is beyond me... I managed to talk one guy into a webcam..but i have to ask myself..is it really worth it? Is a 20$ webcam worth an hour of being someones cyber-bitch? something to think about

1baddude
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posted 04-06-2006 22:57

To make money you have to tailor they're individual needs. Some guys are into domination while others just want straight sex. Just ease into telling them your homelife situation then the pervs will think that they are sly and slowly convince you to live with them instead of your "wicked mother" (often times they will bluntly say come live with me). You'll get the feel for it and know when you have a "milker" ($$$) or when you just have a "wanker" (beats off then leaves). Also make sure to add the "milkers" to msn messenger, that way you can give them hott pictures. Once they see the pictures they have it in they're mind that your so gorgeous and they will strive to bang you at any cost (moneywise & litterally). You have to kind of use reverse pyschology on them too so it seems to them like they are trying to persuade you to come to them. Also the drop boxes sound good but not worth the $600 for this scam in my opinion. Millixion
Regular quote: posted 04-06-2006 23:01

Originally posted by Jacobjac: Day 1: Bad. I feel I'm doing a well enough job at it.. Enough to make 2 men cum anyway. I had to sit there through one guy doing it on cam. I felt I had these two guys hooked.. After they finished their business, I got blocked. That adult chat is a goldmine. Very hard to keep up. I keep touching on the subject of getting out but the most I got was from one guy, saying he would pick me up -_- I thought I had him baited well.. But when he finished up.. He went. Nonetheless there's a few on my MSN so I can try tomorrow if theyre online. I have no idea how you're all getting these gifts.. You've obviously managed to get the lowest people out there.. Or, the lowest people out there, with money to spend on little girls. The logs are great.. one guy wanted to 'deflower' me. I had some mates over when he said that. Goodness. Ah yes.. Also.. I live in the UK, Canada, Australia and the USA.

I'm in the same boat. All of the guys I talked to started role playing. I knew that none of them would send me any stuff because they just wanted to get off and

move on. Seriously, how do you detect who will send you money? One_Armed_Scissor
Regular posted 04-07-2006 03:55

This scheme is awesome: So far. I got a guy sending me $200 for a plane ticket to his place. Another guy sending me a web cam. Another guy is sending me $150 for a plane ticket. $350 and a webcam in 3 days. Basically, I got on www.expedia.com and typed in my location and their location and sent them the website stating the price of the plane ticket. Basically, I was just like "I want to leave this place so bad. I hate my mom. I wish I could live with someone who could take care of me and would love me. I'd do anything right now for a plane ticket out of this place." etc... I never actually said "give me money." Basically, just talked about how I was a dirty little slut and all this shit. And then talked about how I hated my mom and I needed to get out of the house and find someone who would take care of me, etc. I just let them put 2 and 2 together... dirty little slut looking for a place to stay.... hmmmm what do you think? I also put the address to my friend's house who happens to be the national kickboxing champion for his weight class :-) [This message has been edited by One_Armed_Scissor (edited 04-07-2006).] One_Armed_Scissor
Regular posted 04-07-2006 06:06

I usually go into a chat room and type something like "16/f looking for older men to meet!!! serious guys only!" And I usually get like 20 people IMing me and like after talking to some for awhile, they're generally willing to send money... but they wanna "get to know" me first. suckers. 13579
Regular posted 04-07-2006 07:41

i think i'm going to try this. i'll say that i will give them pics if i can somehow get a cam/webcam. then eaither sell them at school or keep them.

scorpio2121
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posted 04-07-2006 09:04

quote:

Originally posted by Fuzi0nX: I dont see how you convince someone to send you money to "come see them" especially if your a "14 year old girl"..i dunno..and..how the hell do you talk someone into sending a computer is beyond me... I managed to talk one guy into a webcam..but i have to ask myself..is it really worth it? Is a 20$ webcam worth an hour of being someones cyberbitch? something to think about

I just developed a friendship with the guy, then i said i'd love a webcam, but my computer too slow to run it, then i said its my birthday coming up, then i just straght out asked him. by the way, ive sorted the where to send problem out, im gonna send it to some random place and ask them to sign it for me, becuase 'my dad got muddled up in his address book' Jacobjac
Regular posted 04-07-2006 16:41

Arck, this is bloody repulsive. Looks like I've finally got a guy hooked. I just need to return shortly and say that 'mom' will do it. I'd hate to see what he will/has actually done to actual little girls. This guy seems like he's in to some freaky shit. http://web.aanet.com.au/Jacobjac/log.txt This is the fat nerd.. http://web.aanet.com.au/Jacobjac/moron.png [This message has been edited by Jacobjac (edited 04-07-2006).]

midgeymonkey2
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posted 04-07-2006 17:02

quote:

Originally posted by Loc Dogg: I'm gonna try this too. I'll be out of a job in two weeks so I'll need some money while I look for another job. Could you all post the pics of these girls you are using? I suck at finding pics of young slutty girls. I just hope there are these kinds of sick pedos in Australia. I need money!!!

i live in queensland,you should add me on msn: [email protected] update:i only have 2 going,ive been slack. the amount of 14 yr old horny cunts in chat rooms shits me.i just tell them what im doing,it shuts them up. might have one sending me money for a cam,its my "bday" on the 9th. thats my situation anyway. Tip:get a fake myspace account,and search with criteria set to 16-17 yr old chick , until you find one that looks 14 or so. midgeymonkey2
Regular posted 04-07-2006 17:04

sky_smarty: got your pix, realy looking diferent from the first u sended. but nice! sophie sweet: i might have send one of me mate,soz!lol how r u? oh,and be careful you dont send two different kinds of pix...yeah. 1baddude
Regular posted 04-07-2006 18:02

I heard someone say they type 16/f/hot, never type an age higher than 15, because if you try to blackmail him he may know that certain legallitys exist in certain states regarding sexual consent laws/cyber sex laws. Also if you tell him your 16 he may go to the police reporting stolen money - then he may not be in as much trouble because he thought you were 16 or 17 rather than 15,14, or 13.

1baddude
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posted 04-07-2006 18:05

Did everyone hear about the guy who works for the U.S. Department of Homeland Security who got raided by the police yesterday and arrested for trying to convince a "14 year old" girl online to come see him so he could have sex with her but the 14 year old girl was actually a police officer, how crazy lol midgeymonkey2
Regular posted 04-07-2006 18:58

sky_smarty: but... wich 1 is you then? sophie sweet: im the one with long black hair sky_smarty: blond or dark? sophie sweet: ^^^ sophie sweet: dark sky_smarty: ^^^? sky_smarty: wot that means? sophie sweet: its like up look up at wat i wrote sophie sweet: yah? sky_smarty: lol sky_smarty: i got it sophie sweet: lolz! sky_smarty: messenger is slow... got yr answere right after i sended the question sky_smarty: so how r u today? sophie sweet: yeh,its all weird toite,but wats new? sophie sweet: YAY MY B DAY TOMOZ! sky_smarty: party! sophie sweet: 4 sure! sky_smarty: had mine last friday sophie sweet: aqwww happy b day!bit late but oh wells sky_smarty: so we're both aries... sophie sweet: yahuh! sky_smarty: tnx lol sky_smarty: wot u gonna do? sophie sweet: ima meet all mah gals at the beach an stuff wit my family,ten havin a shindig at me mates place that nite sky_smarty: shindig? sry, i'm dutch sophie sweet: party!lol sky_smarty: and blond sophie sweet: hehe! sky_smarty: enjoy sky_smarty: but behave sophie sweet: lol alwayz! sky_smarty: like i always do sophie sweet: hehe sky_smarty: i do! sky_smarty: lol sophie sweet: sure!lol sky_smarty: true! sophie sweet: haha!see!i know you alre4ady lololol sky_smarty: the only times i got in trouble is with base jumping... sky_smarty: authority's in holland, belgium and germany still dont know how to deal with that sky_smarty: lol sophie sweet: haha!are there laws against it? sky_smarty: nope sky_smarty: thats the problem... sky_smarty: we are outlaws

sophie sweet: ohhh!awesome! sky_smarty: there are no laws about it sophie sweet: so they cant do anyfin? sky_smarty: all they can held against us is unlawfull entry, burglary, tresspassing, endangering society sophie sweet: ENDAGERING SOCIETY?WAT,YA GONNA LAND ON SOMEONE!LOL! sky_smarty: we are not treated like terrorist, but its close sky_smarty: ehm... yea... or causing traffic jams sophie sweet: ! haha sky_smarty: and if we jump powerlines we are assumed to be able to endanger power supply for west-europe sky_smarty: or we can cause an innocent by-passer to have a heartattack sky_smarty: so... lots they try... sophie sweet: yeah,any excuce by the sounds of it! sky_smarty: but lately they focus more on the jump itself... sky_smarty: only to find out its unregulated sophie sweet: haha!"nice try,see ya!*jump*" sky_smarty: law enforcement is a very frustrating job sophie sweet: haha! sky_smarty: actualy... we had that a month ago sky_smarty: we went to a bridge on the german-belgium border sophie sweet: yeh?! sky_smarty: the moment we pulled over to step out the car a custom-patrol showed up sky_smarty: normaly it takes me 15 seconds to get ready on the edge sky_smarty: my mate only needed 1 second this time sophie sweet: hahahahaha! sky_smarty: i needed more, a full 2 seconds sky_smarty: the joke was, we jumped from germany sophie sweet: haha!you should have yelled"booya!"or summin,wudda been hella hilarious! sky_smarty: but we landed in belgium sophie sweet: ahahahaha! sky_smarty: so they drove down, only to found us on the other side of the border sky_smarty: "ok guys, good nite. but dont do it again 2nite plz..." sophie sweet: haha,at least they were nice lol sky_smarty: those guys down were ok sky_smarty: but our driver had the "bad guy" sophie sweet: awww poor guy sky_smarty: we heard him barking over the radio sophie sweet: ! sky_smarty: they let him go sky_smarty: thank god, otherwise we had to drive sky_smarty: not drive, walk 400 miles sky_smarty: lol sophie sweet: woah woah woah! sky_smarty: so where is yr party? sky_smarty: i might drop by sophie sweet: lol! at me besties,north ward lol.ur a bit far but iniit ya?lol! sky_smarty: still there or connectio problem? sophie sweet: nah i still here! sophie sweet: maybe connection probs,coz it takin ages to get replies... sophie sweet: hello? sky_smarty: i noticed sky_smarty: saw u "typing a message" for ages, but never saw wot u answered sophie sweet: crazy... sophie sweet: better now? sophie sweet: it was rainin b 4 sky_smarty: so wot u tried to say b4 i asked if u were still there? sky_smarty: lol sky_smarty: u type quick!

sophie sweet: hehe i sure do! sky_smarty: 3 lines in a split second! sophie sweet: fastest fingers in the west! sophie sweet: that sounds like a toungue twister lolol sky_smarty: sophie sweet: sky_smarty: depends on who is listening... sky_smarty: to others it sound like u r alone a lot sky_smarty: but that cud b just me... sky_smarty: lol sophie sweet: lol you lost me!...i dunno wat ya mean but yeh i am alone alot,i go online wen everyone is asleep sophie sweet: hello? sky_smarty: nm sky_smarty: naughty jk sky_smarty: lol sophie sweet: ah ok lol im a bit slo 2 nite sky_smarty: how old u gonna b tomorow? sophie sweet: 15 w00 w00! sky_smarty: makes me feel old sophie sweet: awww!hehe!*hug* 1baddude
Regular posted 04-07-2006 23:30

^um ok? Jacobjac
Regular posted 04-08-2006 03:07

For the record, are there any online paedophile reporting services? Preferably anonymous? Does 911.com actually do anything? This guy doesn't look like he's going to give me money. Rather.. He's coming to my state.. and renting a hotel for the two of us. Unfortunately for him, I don't live in the US at all. So I figure I'd report people like this. Perhaps they could make a raid while he's waiting for 'me.' Seeing as I'm not going to get anything out of this.. I might as well save an actual little girl. [This message has been edited by Jacobjac (edited 04-08-2006).]

1baddude
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posted 04-08-2006 04:11

Really you could report it but it would just be easier to make his ass travel across the U.S. and waste money. send him to a gay bar or something. You could report it but there wouldn't be much of a strong case, the police would have to take your convo records and statement to court and then prove that hes a stalker but there might only be enough credential if a police officer pretended to be a little girl. I'm only keeping convo records incase some guy claims I stole his money and then i'll show the records to save my ass and send him to jail. Also you could make him think that your really the police and scare him into never trying this again. [This message has been edited by 1baddude (edited 04-08-2006).] Jacobjac
Regular posted 04-08-2006 09:24

Yeah I suppose. I've wasted too much time on him.. I might just threaten and scare him until he feels like giving me money. If he says no? I have no problem tipping off the cops, anyway. I've made people's lives on the internet hell before. I'm a strong believer in revenge. faithbanks
Regular posted 04-09-2006 03:08

This is not a bad idea...I'm going to try this. Oh and the legal age depends upon the state. Some states say the age of consent is fourteen, some it is 16, some it is 17 etc. Bullshit I say...it is nothing but a social construct. Do the research on your state before you take the plunge and post your age as 16 when that is the legal age of sexual consent for your area anyway. Anyway, I actually am female so it won't be too big of a lie. Silhouette
Regular posted 04-09-2006 05:47

lol i need to try this. i could do with a bit of extra cash. problem is, i dont know where to get them to send it. i live in canberra, australia, any ideas?

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If you work fast food, read my scam...

-OutKastRegular

posted 04-09-2006 21:37

It can only work at some places, but if you are sneaky, you can get close to $100 a day (yes it requires you to have a job). It is very easy, and unless someone witnesses you, there is nothing to worry about. In order for this to work, your workplace must give senior discounts, or something similar. First, memorize every price you can after sales tax, and memorize every price after tax with a senior discount. When someone gets something, tell them the full price, but only ring up the register with a senior discount. Then you keep the difference. For example, if an item, after sales tax is $10, or with a senior only $9, them tell the customer the $10 price, and you keep the extra dollar. Keep track of how many times you do this, so you can later add up the total, and when you are alone, you can take the money out of the register. Noone will every know what happened, and if your place is like mine, they have cameras, but never record anything. Curry
Regular posted 04-09-2006 21:40

sounds pretty tight actually, although you would have to make absolutely sure that the cameras werent on. another problem i see is that no place near me has any kind of senior discount or anything. except amusement parks. just a thought. Dutch Master
Regular posted 04-09-2006 22:04

Wouldn't the customer see that you were telling them a higher price on the register. Frakir
Regular posted 04-09-2006 22:07

Many fastfood resturaunts don't have a screen showing the total. It's not a bad idea. I used to do it at Arby's. It paid for most of my liquor back in the day.

bluefox
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posted 04-09-2006 22:24

You might get caught as soon as the head manager is going over monthly expenses, and notices the huge amounts of senior citizen discounts given. If you dont wanna get caught, I would JUST do it on large orders sparingly. When a family comes in and orders 35 bucks of food (30 with the SS discount), as you are giving them the change from the register, slide a 5 dollar bill into your wallet. Frakir
Regular posted 04-09-2006 22:39

Alas, my manager was a good friend of mine. He knew what I was doing and probably just 'overlooked' the discounts.

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selling warehouse skids

blinky101
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posted 04-09-2006 11:04

Ive spotted loads of these are they worth anything? Who buys them? camaro_racer88
Regular posted 04-09-2006 11:08

Are you talking about those things that look like a skinny ladder and have wheels on them so stuff can slide down them? If so, they're heavy, take them to a recycle plant. blinky101
Regular posted 04-09-2006 11:10

no the wooden platforms that the fork lifts put their pokers in. http://www .cardboard boxes.ca/s itebuilder content/si tebuilderp ictures/.p ond/used-p allets-skids.jpg. w300h400.jpg Fate
Moderator posted 04-09-2006 12:33

It's called a pallet. Let me clue you in to the pallet game, son. There are places that will buy pallets. Often they advertise in the paper or you can find them in the yellow pages, and they're usually located towards the more industrial or dockside area of your town. There are standards for pallets, but it varies by country. In the USA, the usual 'standard' pallet is the 48x40 4 way. Say it ten times fast. It is so named because it is 48x40 inches, and has cutouts so it can be picked up from any of its four sides by a forklift. 48x40's are clean and square, and don't have any overhanging slats or other bullshit.

This is important - You can only sell the 48x40's. The rest of them are what we affectionately refer to as 'shit pallets', and their uses are as follows: - Ballast - Firewood - Free nails - A place to sit out back - Something to test the chain saw on - Good for beating the shit out of with a sledge hammer when you're pissed off - Something that we have to cut up and fit in the dumpster, somehow, because nobody wants the things Get it? After a little while of measuring you'll be able to spot a 48x40 at twenty paces in the dark with a fog. It's not that hard. Depending on the market and where you sell in your area you can get anywhere between 5 and 15 bucks a pop for pallets. Bring a big truck, find a lot of pallets. Notice that most businesses know precisely how much their pallets are worth and won't just give them to you. They plan to cash them in themselves. As an object of value, boosting the pallets from out back of a place is, technically, stealing. We busted lots of people trying to steal pallets from our store, and held one beligerent motherfucker at gunpoint over it until the police arrived. So watch out, aye? blinky101
Regular posted 04-09-2006 23:43

cool thanks, *getting out the measuring tape*. This is a major company, I wont have anyone come after me to kick my ass . Plus no one works there at night. Ive seen some just left outside backdoors of businesses at night. But this one has stacks of them.

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Funny Mail Order Scam Idea!

Poker_Dooder
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posted 04-10-2006 16:41

Advertise that you will buy US nickles from people at a profit. Send $5 for info. They send you the $5, you sent the info... Info = OK heres the deal... I will buy as many US nickles from you at a profit as you want to sell me. I will buy each nickle for $0.01, limit is one nickle per month. They can't say they didn't get the info, you sent it! They can't say that it's false advertising, you said that you would buy them at a profit (in this case 4 cents). ...but it is illegal, so I wouldn't do it, but the idea brings a smile to my face.

SilentMind
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posted 04-10-2006 16:46

People are stupid. People arent that stupid. Poker_Dooder
Regular quote: posted 04-10-2006 16:58

Originally posted by SilentMind: People are stupid. People arent that stupid.

They would send the five dollars Because of the very simple fact that would read it from a selfish, greedy point of view. They would read it as "I can make money selling this nimrod nickles that I have laying around my room???!!! Hell yeah I'll send the five bucks to find out how!! After all if it's bullcrap, it only took me five dollars to find out, but if it's real I could make my money back plus loads more!!" Yes, people are that stupid. I met a guy once who told me he was a pro gambler, I asked him what he plays, he said "keno". Hell, people will pay for water. It's free out of the sink, and people know that they can have all the free water they could ever want, and they still will pay top dollar for water. People are really something else. Fat Penis
Regular posted 04-10-2006 17:16

maybe you could try selling copper engravings of arbraham lincoln, our 16th president. Poker_Dooder
Regular posted 04-10-2006 17:47

yeah, I posted this so you could get a quick laugh at one of my silly ideas that I dont plan on actually doing.

SpeakSoSoftly
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posted 04-11-2006 06:33

ya they are always in the pennysaver. i see those "make $200 a day stuffing envelopes" i think its liek the same thing. you send them money for info. not 100% sure though.

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So I'm staying at this hotel

angryanalrobot
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posted 04-12-2006 02:41

Is there anything fun I can do at night here? It's not exactly a hotel, more of a resort, like five three story buildings layed out around this river. My freind and I are really bored and need something to do... pengd0t
Regular quote: posted 04-12-2006 03:06

Originally posted by angryanalrobot: My freind and I are really bored and need something to do...

Sounds like this is going to get moved to Sex & Affection... flaphappy
Regular posted 04-12-2006 03:09

Get some bolt cutters, make your way to a staircase, go to the top of it, find the ladder that goes to the roof, cut off the lock, and throw shit off. It's fun to see what will break and what will not. Mr.-Dookie
Regular posted 04-12-2006 03:12

anal robot, im geussing your friend is male, and im geussing you like boys, you can play with each others assholes. dDIzzIEe
Regular posted 04-12-2006 03:58

Breaking into Hotel Safes Miscellaneous Hotel Cons... Enjoy

Don Quixote
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posted 04-12-2006 04:05

Also, walk around and just steal stuff. You can go to the restaurant and if noone's there; viola, you have yourself a new dinner set/fridge full of beer. stanley-dookiewilliams
Regular posted 05-25-2006 19:38

just molotov everything emericaskater
Regular quote: posted 05-26-2006 21:29

Originally posted by stanley-dookie-williams: just molotov everything

Fate
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posted 05-26-2006 21:55

dDIzzIEe, (christ, just looking at your username makes my brain hurt) that's a good and informative link on fingerprinting keypads. Kanashuri
Regular posted 05-27-2006 04:38

murder/suicide TWINTURBOSkyline
Regular quote: posted 05-27-2006 05:48

Originally posted by flaphappy: It's fun to see what will break and what will not.

Try this dude.

Twilight_Orange
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posted 05-27-2006 06:42

Walk around the halls looking for a room that smells like weed, then knock and get them to sell you some. Smoke a bowl or 2, then hit up the vending machine. Bordum sloved. Staples
Regular posted 05-27-2006 09:38

Find the nike missile site under the hotel! Seriously? look around in the basement for stuff. DesyphIX
Regular quote: posted 05-27-2006 10:11

Originally posted by pengd0t: Sounds like this is going to get moved to Sex & Affection...

Rofl. enfaded Serenicity
Regular posted 05-27-2006 10:33

Hotels / Resorts are the best place for robbing stuff and purvurtation. Find yourself a nice sturdy knife and card some doors and get yourself some goods. Just explore the place and go where your not meant to. see what stuff you can find. Also purvurtation , Hotels / motel / resorts are the best place for this. Find a room , find a window. What more is there to say ? But I guess if you just wanted to do stupid shit you could throw stuff at peoples doors and watch them come out angrily.

KvS
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posted 05-30-2006 23:29

quote:

Originally posted by dDIzzIEe:

Miscellaneous Hotel Cons... Enjoy

HAAHA ive done every one of the Hotel Cons on that site...they all work quite nicely. Theres a Hilton Suites by my house that has the best free Breakfast Lunch and Dinner in the executive lounge on the top floor that is locked on the elevator, but you just take the stairs. [This message has been edited by KvS (edited 05-30-2006).] Drsimmons
Regular posted 05-31-2006 23:46

yeah, dude just steal towels from those maid carts they leave in hallway. Steal food people leave outside there rooms ride the elevators!!!!!!! shit man everyone loves that. The best is pressing all the buttons and walking out of a crowded elevator. saskatchewanpirate
Regular quote: posted 05-31-2006 23:54

Originally posted by dDIzzIEe: Breaking into Hotel Safes Miscellaneous Hotel Cons... Enjoy

Very nice links my friend.

flabob
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posted 06-01-2006 00:12

Utilize the mini bar, then call for it to be restocked and utilize it again. Then go swimming. 'tis a favorite past time of mine whenever I'm at a hotel..

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School Textbooks

The Placebo Effect
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posted 05-19-2006 22:19

I'm sure people have posted these ideas before, but I guess I wasn't around then. I tried search, but came up with nothing, so I decided to go straight to the people. At my school most of the kidiots can't hold onto their textbooks for more than a quarter. So I have a pile of everything from biology to calculus text piling up in my closet. I was hoping to unload these for cash. Complications are many: I live with my parents, but can still have stuff shipped to myself here. I'm under 18, and don't have a credit card, and my bank account isn't under my name so I'd have to go to some "Check-Into-Cash" places to get the money. Any suggestions? If not, thanks for reading. -TyPE Fate
Moderator posted 05-20-2006 01:29

Sell for cash to people in your school? Where are you getting your books from? I assume you're still talking high school, in which case the only books with any value will be the ones that your school issues. And you'll have to sell for less than a student just paying for the cost of a new book (which isn't much of a stretch, those stupid hardbound textbooks can go for 75-90 bucks, new). Lots of kids might pay good money to keep mommy and daddy from killing them. Corbenix
Regular posted 05-20-2006 01:46

Its not wise to sell the textbooks to people from your school because every book in the school is registered in the school database and also all textbooks have a number code on the books. So If one were to sell the textbook to the other person and the other person was to return the book at the end of the year. It would be viewed as stolen and the buyer would most likely rat you out. Try eBay? or other schools in your district. Cheers.

The Placebo Effect
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posted 05-20-2006 02:36

Ah, key information I failed to mention. Yes, it is still in high school. The system works as follows: As long as you bring the correct book, they're ok. If you get it off eBay, or buy one from the school, all they require is you bring the correct text. At the end of the year, they give you the option of selling them back IF you bought them from the school. Now, I can't sell them all back to the school, because once, a kid tried, and got suspended for the rest of the year, so he missed finals and had to retake most of his courses. I don't know how to sell on eBay without PayPal or a credit card, and even once I do I'd need to find someway to cash the check. I guess what I'm after is a market that'll pay cash directly. I'm willing to ship, but only for easy payment. -TyPE Corbenix
Regular posted 05-20-2006 03:04

Wow.. Money back for books.. In Highschool? Where are you located? The Placebo Effect
Regular posted 05-21-2006 16:07

Richer-suburbs of Chicago. Millixion
Regular posted 05-21-2006 18:14

I tried selling some textbooks on ebay once. Nobody buys them. At my school, you have to buy your books at the beginning of the year and sell them back at the end. They won't let you sell more than one of each subject back to them, but kids are swapping books for cheaper all over the place. So yeah, I guess try to sell them off to other kids. Corbenix
Regular posted 05-21-2006 19:08

In my school. You just return the book and pay for any damages that might be on the book. I currently have $20 of damage due to water? I find that BS. Cheers.

gunjah
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posted 05-21-2006 20:20

at my school all the books suck, but they take down the number in the book and write it on a slip with you name, ussally unless theyre really crappy. Like my english book for example, we're the last class to use them so we get to burn them at teh end of teh year (or well take them home rather) Corbenix
Regular posted 05-21-2006 20:44

gunjah. what school do you go to. My school is like that too. MKHS?? Cheers. pist0la
Regular posted 05-21-2006 21:05

I've thought of doing something similar a while ago btu never got around to it. there are companies that buy text books like BIGWORDS.com. most books don't go for much, but if you have a lot it can really add up, but they will buy some books for about 20-40 bucks each. godzillaroar2000
Regular posted 05-21-2006 23:58

heh, I lost ALL my books this year...except for like Java, and History. elpyro
Regular posted 06-02-2006 01:08

EBAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!

ladybridgeport
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posted 06-02-2006 03:48

Yea sell on ebay every book has an ISBN number, it's the equilvlent to a model number, not a serial number. Just do a search under the ISBN number and it will pull up multiple dealers selling that book. Try selling college books instead. Also do it around time classes begin so the last minuters will pay extra for it. r2
Regular posted 06-03-2006 03:01

This is a very good scam. In my school, there are usually 3 cabinets per class and they are stuffed with many different types of textbooks, my school has a lot. Get the ones in the best condition, the newer the addition the better. Rip out the page where it shows a name list and the school info. Don't worry about the serial code on the side of the book. You can sell them on www.buysell.com for 30$ each. They sell VERY good, especially in september.

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Easiest way to make some cash stealing...(need more ideas though)

lycosidae
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posted 06-05-2006 23:38

I just got back from college, and damn college campuses are nice for stealing things. First of all, the science building has no cameras AT ALL. I would go in at 7:00 PM, not even dark out. I'd bring my backpack as if I was going to do lab work or something. Go in an open room (most rooms empty), and take things such as laptops, graphing calculators, hot plates, balances, etc etc etc. I could go in, load up my back pack, and get out. Nobody even saw me. What are some other easy steals like this you can do at home? GofB
Regular posted 06-06-2006 00:29

If your at home there is no need to steal things. They most likely already belong to you.

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selling broken game to ebgames

john_deer
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posted 06-05-2006 22:57

well...will i get caught? the game isn't broken in half or anything, but it won't load the actual game (menu loads). no scratches on back that are big (VERY small one) if not, what can i do with the game, eb says they'll give me like 35 CDN Darian_AR
Regular posted 06-05-2006 23:05

Don't worry about it man. I've gotten away with this plenty of times. Most of the time, they will ask for an ID. Just say that you don't have one (works very well if you don't look at least 18). They will either do this or have you fill out a form that you put your addy and name/number down on. Simply enough, just make a bogus address on a street that's in your town. Bogus name as well. And if you have games (cd's, I gather), they won't ever take the time to load them up, especially on a busy day. They will check systems and controllers (most of the time) but they never check games if the surface looks decent. Simple enough. give them bogus info and don't go back in for a month or 2. -or- go back in with a disguise. john_deer
Regular posted 06-05-2006 23:07

so do i HAVE to give them bogus info - i already got a game card w/ credit on it (i'd perfer if the 35 bucks got on there)

Darian_AR
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posted 06-06-2006 01:08

na dude, just get the credit (or cash, whatever) and come back later or go to another EB games and put that money on the card. (or does EB do that?) Sorry it might not work if you can only reload a card in intervals. But just like I said, come back later when another employee is working and put that money back on the card. you might loose a little value since you get out cash, but it's not like the game is working anyway. Sorry for the grammar mistakes and not capitalizing the first letter of each sentence. I feel lazy tonight. ^_^

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A SCAM TO MAKE YOU GOOD AMOUNT OF MONEY.

aussie_king
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posted 06-06-2006 22:53

This scam is a little harder to pull off than the last but if you're a half decent bullshit artist and not a complete retard you can do it. Now a lot of us hate this new age bullshit why not take advantage. The next big gathering of people selling this crap, things like markets fairs expos crap like that this scam can be appilied. You set up a stall with something like "Purge Satan from your life" Or "let me help you get the evil spirits out of you're life" or some shit like that. Now you get the gullible fool to stand up talk about his/her life for 3 minutes then the next 7 minutes you get them to close their eyes while you wave your hands "Satan/ evil spirits be gone" then you charge the retard 15 dollars. Think about it $15 for 10 minutes 90$ an hour $900 for 10 hours. Easy just don't be a fuckhead. TwoMulatto
Regular posted 06-06-2006 23:04

Better yet, while their eyes are closed and they are meditating have your buddy gank his wallet. Don Quixote
Regular posted 06-06-2006 23:18

They did this on The Chaser's War On Everything the other night. The object was to see what these new age types would fall for... he managed to sell them something called a "bollocks candle". So this is a decent scam.

Hitman 47
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posted 06-07-2006 07:59

quote:

Originally posted by aussie_king: This scam is a little harder to pull off than the last but if you're a half decent bullshit artist and not a complete retard you can do it. Now a lot of us hate this new age bullshit why not take advantage. The next big gathering of people selling this crap, things like markets fairs expos crap like that this scam can be appilied. You set up a stall with something like "Purge Satan from your life" Or "let me help you get the evil spirits out of you're life" or some shit like that. Now you get the gullible fool to stand up talk about his/her life for 3 minutes then the next 7 minutes you get them to close their eyes while you wave your hands "Satan/evil spirits be gone" then you charge the retard 15 dollars. Think about it $15 for 10 minutes 90$ an hour $900 for 10 hours. Easy just don't be a fuckhead.

you give us Aussies a bad name. The_Lurker
Regular posted 06-07-2006 23:30

-_Sioux-Reborn
Regular posted 06-07-2006 23:51

I, being the psychic that I am, predict that this thread will be locked by morning. +1 kenwih
Regular posted 06-08-2006 00:53

or you could just start a church and pass the offering plate around...

Its steven
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posted 06-08-2006 05:48

I can see it all now! "God, and How he can make you money!"

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Easy Airport theft???

VivaLaAmsterdam
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posted 06-13-2006 04:42

Hello TOTSE. SOoo. I was in LAX today and I happend to notice somthing very interesting. When you leave the terminal to go to baggage(haha baggage) claim, you grab your luggage and leave right? well what is stopping us enlightend individuals from grabbing the "wrong bag" that just happens to have say, golf clubs, guitars, etc. and leaving and having the misfortune of not realizing our mistake til were at, say, a pawn shop getting money. Tell me how your local airport is and whether you think this is a good idea. i know you can do this at LAX if you have a car {can't really just walk in there} this seems to good to be true for me but i don't see any flaws OUT!!!! Sponsored Link
Regular posted 06-13-2006 04:47

As far as i kno from where ive been (Tampa intntnl, Frankfurt am main, ect) you can only get to the baggage claim from the terminal and you cant get there form the outside. Besides they got so many plainclothes and security cameras n shit, its not even funny how risky it would be. RedWasp
Regular posted 06-13-2006 04:54

As long as you get off the plane with the baggage, and take a couple of generic bags, you're good to go. Golf clubs and guitars aren't what you should take. VivaLaAmsterdam
Regular posted 06-13-2006 04:54

well at LAX you can walk into where people come out and straight to the carousells with the luggage with massive crowds of people waiting for bags, and if you dont see eyes move, dive for one of them, you just look like you're getting luggage, and voiala, but that IS just at LAX in the amereican airlines gate.

stonerdelasoul
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posted 06-13-2006 16:56

weeeeeeeell i think i can see 2thang wrong with this, and that is: 1) what if you're stopped by customs on the way out, what you gonna say? 2) some airports have checks to see if your boarding pass matches your luggage labelling, but i dont know about in lAX im thinkin england, and were an island. RobotChicken
Regular posted 06-13-2006 17:01

In smaller airports in NY, there's nothing separating the luggage claim from the exits. Easily do-able but the risks aren't worth the rewards. People usually pack clothes and shoes in big bags and carry laptops/goodies with them. CaptainCrunch
Regular quote: posted 06-13-2006 17:07

Originally posted by VivaLaAmsterdam: Hello TOTSE. SOoo. I was in LAX today and I happend to notice somthing very interesting. When you leave the terminal to go to baggage(haha baggage) claim, you grab your luggage and leave right? well what is stopping us enlightend individuals from grabbing the "wrong bag" that just happens to have say, golf clubs, guitars, etc. and leaving and having the misfortune of not realizing our mistake til were at, say, a pawn shop getting money. Tell me how your local airport is and whether you think this is a good idea. i know you can do this at LAX if you have a car {can't really just walk in there} this seems to good to be true for me but i don't see any flaws OUT!!!!

Yeah, LAX is like, packed and its so easy to just grab someones bag. Done it before and got someones sony vaio and around 7$ in quarters, great fun. I wish I lived in cali again

Optionryder420
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posted 06-13-2006 17:30

quote:

Originally posted by Sponsored Link: As far as i kno from where ive been (Tampa intntnl, Frankfurt am main, ect) you can only get to the baggage claim from the terminal and you cant get there form the outside. Besides they got so many plainclothes and security cameras n shit, its not even funny how risky it would be.

Tampa isn't like that at all, I'm there at least once a month and I park my car in the short term parking and walk to the baggage claim all the time. DeadlyAssassin
Regular posted 06-13-2006 18:51

even better... well if you have a nice car.... dress up in a suit and grab for expensive looking luggage... when/if questioned claim you are a shoffeur PirateJoe
Regular quote: posted 06-13-2006 19:38

Originally posted by stonerdelasoul: weeeeeeeell i think i can see 2thang wrong with this, and that is: 1) what if you're stopped by customs on the way out, what you gonna say? 2) some airports have checks to see if your boarding pass matches your luggage labelling, but i dont know about in lAX im thinkin england, and were an island.

1) whoops, i grabbed the wrong bag, sorry. 2) i know SFO, LAX, chicago/o'hare, Syracuse, and Rochester don't have anything like that. Remedios TB
Regular posted 06-13-2006 19:41

It sounds easy, if anything goes wrong well you got the wrong bag.. it happens all the time, at least in Hollywood it does

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Ingenius theft idea (or maybe not)

CCC
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posted 06-10-2006 04:29

Well what if you were at say a wal-mart when it wasn't very busy and managed to slip a camera or something small and worth $$$ into a garbage can under some stuff, or putting it into another bag then into the garbage can, or maybe even into a McDonald's bag so it doesn't look suspicious. Then you loiter around back until they take out the garbage (you could even mark the garbage bag...somehow) and you grab your shit. SpectraL
Regular posted 06-10-2006 04:39

Five years LP. All removal of garbage by employees or outside cleaning staff monitored by one LP staff at back door. Once bags are in outside container, and garbage removal employees are back inside, LP guy/gal rips bags/boxes open to examine contents. LP also periodically checks garbage container and surrounding area throughout shift for hidden merchandise. Old. SpiderPlant
Regular posted 06-10-2006 04:39

most likely walmart uses a compactor like almost every other large dept store. SpectraL
Regular quote: posted 06-10-2006 04:47

Originally posted by SpiderPlant: most likely walmart uses a compactor like almost every other large dept store.

Garbage is checked way before the compactor switch is thrown. SpiderPlant
Regular posted 06-10-2006 04:57

ok so either way its not gonna work. either lp will find it or if they miss it it will be crushed. hell i feel bad for lp havin to dig through trash. especally from the cans out front. some nasty people throw away some nasty shit there.

Darian_AR
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posted 06-10-2006 05:28

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Originally posted by SpectraL: Garbage is checked way before the compactor switch is thrown.

I don't know what wallie world you're going to, but I know the ones in AR don't do anything like that. The LP's stay at the front of the store with 2 patroling random isles, etc. I know this because I used to work there. I was in Cashier, Kart Krew, Maintenance and Unloading. There are so many holes and opportunities in ours it almost takes the fun out of shoplifting. SpectraL
Regular quote: posted 06-11-2006 04:26

Originally posted by Darian_AR: There are so many holes and opportunities in ours it [b]almost takes the fun out of shoplifting. [/B]

Some stores are sloppier than others. You just never know, until you try. Just case the back door garbage removal area, and get the schedule and routine, hit next day based on that information. Masta Thief
Regular posted 06-11-2006 04:35

grab it and run dipshit grab it and run! youre trying to come up with a great criminal idea for stealing a camera? At WAL-MART? grab it and get the fuck out of their quik. cobra47
Regular quote: posted 06-11-2006 07:48

Originally posted by Masta Thief: grab it and run dipshit grab it and run! youre trying to come up with a great criminal idea for stealing a camera? At WAL-MART? grab it and get the fuck out of their quik.

I hope you try this and get ass raped by store security. The OP's bin idea is a lot better than your faggoty 'WHERE CAN I FIND A FENCE LOLZOR' posts. PetSematary
Regular quote: posted 06-11-2006 12:43

Originally posted by SpectraL: Five years LP. All removal of garbage by employees or outside cleaning staff monitored by one LP staff at back door. Once bags are in outside container, and garbage removal employees are back inside, LP guy/gal rips bags/boxes open to examine contents. LP also periodically checks garbage container and surrounding area throughout shift for hidden merchandise. Old.

Ok, so this means that someone has to inspect containers holding discarded feminine hygeine products? The undewear of some kid with diarrhea? joecaveman
Regular posted 06-11-2006 17:11

Damn, taking out the trash is a smelly enough job, let alone working your way throgh each bag. XD SpectraL
Regular quote: posted 06-12-2006 03:38

Originally posted by PetSematary: Ok, so this means that someone has to inspect containers holding discarded feminine hygeine products? The undewear of some kid with diarrhea?

It's just split open and sifted a bit with a stick. Nothing so dramatic.

PetSematary
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posted 06-12-2006 11:50

quote:

Originally posted by SpectraL: It's just split open and sifted a bit with a stick. Nothing so dramatic.

Never-the-less it must be inspected and there's gotta be times when it gets unpleasant.

Fate
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posted 06-12-2006 12:48

LP's monitor the trash mainly to prevent employee theft. However, they're looking for obvious things (large electronics, tools, DVD's...) and are not paid to sit there and pick through garbage (figure that at a Wal-Mart this also includes food waste, bathroom waste, &c.) unless there is a serious problem with employee theft going on at that store at that time. SpectraL
Regular quote: posted 06-12-2006 14:02

Originally posted by PetSematary: Never-the-less it must be inspected and there's gotta be times when it gets unpleasant.

Not that unpleasant really, when you keep reminding yourself that this is what you get paid to do, which is try to save the store some money. Plus, it kinda has a pay-off, of a sort. You know it will probably be an employee who put the item there, and this employee will probably be stupid enough to pick up the item himself/herself after their shift. Stand about 500 yards from the bin, smoke a few joints, and wait for the fun to begin. I hate the tears and the bribes the most. mack357
Regular posted 06-13-2006 05:15

how do you monitor where the garbage is thrown out after?

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free cigarettes

JoseValentin
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posted 06-11-2006 18:32

i read somewhere on here once where someone bought a carton of cigarettes and tried to return the empty box (weighted) for a refund. it didn't work so i thought of an idea to get some free cigarettes. Have a friend go in and buy a carton, each one of you can take a few packs. Then a few days later return 1/2 of the box and go ape shit on the manager about how he sold the cigarettes to your younger brother who is less than 18. Obviously they would rather refund your money then get sued for millions. Then you repeat at a different store. If a similar idea has been posted before then i apoligize for trying to steal it, but this seems like it would work 100% of the time. craigsee
Regular posted 06-11-2006 18:43

It doesn't work here since every little fuckhead can buy cigarettes or alcohol :/. Perhaps just stealing them would work? We have this small but really small store, like 5x5m where only one worker works so all you have to do is push her back, grab cigarett packs and run. crazy maniac
Regular posted 06-12-2006 00:19

buy a carton of smokes, take out all the packs, reglue it, make it look like new. go to a different store, and get another carton thats exactly the same as the first. pay for it, walk out, go to your car, switch the cartons, go back in, tell the guy you wanted lights, but he gave you regs instead. he'll take the dummycarton, and you'll get a new carton. 2 for the price of one rinse, repeat. Headshotx7
Regular posted 06-12-2006 01:52

thats actually a pretty good idea^^. Xurich
Regular posted 06-12-2006 21:35

Has anyone in the UK attempted the complaint letter scam of switching the contents of a pack of marlboro lights with marlboro menthols and sending the pack off to Phillip Morris Tobacco, and recieving a letter of apology and a free carton of 200 cigarettes? Just wondering if anyone has had any luck with this scam.

4skins
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posted 06-12-2006 21:55

you can get a free carton of american spirits from their wesbite Johnny Bonanno
Regular quote: posted 06-13-2006 04:08

Originally posted by JoseValentin: i read somewhere on here once where someone bought a carton of cigarettes and tried to return the empty box (weighted) for a refund. it didn't work so i thought of an idea to get some free cigarettes. Have a friend go in and buy a carton, each one of you can take a few packs. Then a few days later return 1/2 of the box and go ape shit on the manager about how he sold the cigarettes to your younger brother who is less than 18. Obviously they would rather refund your money then get sued for millions. Then you repeat at a different store. If a similar idea has been posted before then i apoligize for trying to steal it, but this seems like it would work 100% of the time.

Your right son, this is a really great idea. Until they check the cameras because they will go ape shit to fire whoever sold them to your "Younger brother" And then they will have you on camera. Chances are youd make the news, and friends/family will turn you in. Theres a list of things you will go down for. You spend alot of time in prison with a 350lbs black guy named "Big Daddy D" as your cell mate. But outside of that...

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back from beach week- scam ideas...

bluefox
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posted 06-11-2006 15:55

Ok, I got back from beach week, which of course was a drunken blur, and I have some good scam ideas. I suddenly realized that certain beaches (I was in the Outer Banks NC, your standard touristy seasonal neighborhood community oriented beach) are filled with potential money making scams. The only problem for all of you is you need to actually goto one of these beaches, which might be difficult for the totse people in uh Kansas or whatever. The first scam a friend and I sucessfully pulled off. It was the most easiest thing I could ever have done. Basically, he and I were walking to the beach one night to joint it up, and as we were walking up the beach axcess path, some asshole frat fuckbags started throwing their beer cans at us. We told them to go fuck themselves and just kept on walking...but not before I noticed their defenceless expensive looking surfboards they had left in the outdoor shower that was right

next to the beach axess road (their house was next to it). So the next night at 5.30am, I casually walked up that same beach path, jumped into their outdoor shower, yanked expensive surfboard#1, and walked it back to the road where my buddy had his car ready. After putting it in, we repeated for the 2nd and 3rd surfboards. We then went to a harris teeter 24hr and chilled for 4 hours before driving to the other side of the Outer banks and we pawned the surfboards at 3 random surf shops (we had to give names...no big deal, we made them up). We got 75 bucks, 125, and 250 for each board respectively. This little scam netted us enough dough to cover beach week AND all of our expences, AND get payback at the asshole frat guys who threw beer cans at us. Cops do not generally patrol the upper class beach neighborhood communities late night...for whatever reason it was beyond easy to steal these boards. Just use common sense. I DO recommend a buddy who is the driver, though, in case shit happens you can always GTF out of there. SUMMARY- People leave expensive surfboards/wakeboards/boogyboards/other shit just lying outside their houses. Go steal it when noone is awake and pawn it at surf shops. The second scam I did not personally accomplish...but honestly, looks easy as pie. For this, LOCATION is very important, as you need to hit the upper class (but not toooo upper class) beach community houses. Not every beach house is in use ever week of summer. Online, you can easily check to see whether a house is being occupied durring a particular week. You can double check by simply driving up to it and looking for cars, or other signs of life (beach equip, towels, etc). In the nice expensive house we stayed in for the week, there was NO security measures AT ALL. Doors were locked, but that was it. 3rd story windows werent even locked when we got there....and beach houses are notoriously easy to scale up, with all of the decks and overhangs and shit. So the obvious scam here would be to pick a vacant for the week beach house with adequite foilage cover away from the main roads, in a upscale neighborhood. You pull a car up into the garage at 4-5am. B&E into the house, yank all the electronics, TV, DVD, game systems, surround sound, and any other goodies there. You dump them into your car and drive off. Obviously there isnt as much to take as a normal occupied house in regular suburbia, but the risk is 40x lower because you KNOW noone is in the house. Anyway, I figured I would share this with yall, have fun. L8r. joecaveman
Regular posted 06-11-2006 16:40

I like the second scam. SWIM and his friend did this while staying at a friend's cottage. They went out on the lake in a canoe at around 3:00 am and found a few obviously empty cottages that were isolated enough to safely B&E without attracting attention. They were nice, very expensive cottages. SWIM spent some time at one cottage. Played some pool with his friend, had some stolen food and drinks, before leaving with 15 bottles of very fine wine. Cottages are gold mines. [This message has been edited by joecaveman (edited 06-11-2006).]

bluefox
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posted 06-11-2006 23:29

yeah, they really are. Most people who own them are well-to-do and arent there for seasons at a time, and they are generally somewhat isolated. Im suprised this only got one reply, concidering it was a thread giving scam ideas instead of asking for them...oh well. l8r Quageschi
Regular posted 06-12-2006 00:04

Great idea with the surf boards, im gonna have to check that out this summer. A Don Quixote
Regular posted 06-12-2006 02:14

I posted about this a while ago but I guess it belongs here, too. Go to the beach wearing board shorts and the like as you usually do - you can even go for a swim, if you want. Once you get out, go sit up the top near the carpark. Wait until somebody comes with a nice car and a surfboard - near here this happens every few minutes. When they go into the surf, wait a few minutes. Jump in the water if you're nervous, wait a minute, then come back out. Walk up to where they left their towel and shoes, and turn back at the surf to see what they're doing. Just stand there like you're watching surfers. When he's out a distance just pick up his towel and shoes. Go to his car, find the keys in his shoe or wrapped in his towel, and drive to an awaiting chopshop. Optionryder420
Regular posted 06-12-2006 03:24

Yes, and watch your ass get beat by his many friends. I kitesurf (good day today with the tropical storm!) and we all keep an eye on eachothers stuff. If I see someone I don't know at the beach, I keep an eye on them. But, we usually kite at certain beaches that only us kiters go to... Seriously though, surfers are a tight knit group. The boards you stole were probably well worth over 600 bucs a piece. The surfshop I gaurantee bought them and gave them back to the rightful owners. Don Quixote
Regular posted 06-12-2006 03:32

Not here. Every other person surfs and a lot of people come from the city to do so on weekends. I guess it depends on the area you're in.

redhotchiliman123
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posted 06-12-2006 20:39

[QUOTE]Originally posted by bluefox: [B]Ok, I got back from beach week, which of course was a drunken blur, and I have some good scam ideas. I suddenly realized that certain beaches (I was in the Outer Banks NC, your standard touristy seasonal neighborhood community oriented beach) are filled with potential money making scams. The only problem for all of you is you need to actually goto one of these beaches, which might be difficult for the totse people in uh Kansas or whatever. lol i live in kansas saskatchewanpirate
Regular posted 06-12-2006 21:10

Shit Im going to the beach tomorrow. Its going to be just myself and my parents so I cant really pull anything off that requires a partner or driver or car lol. This sucks I would love to pull this scam. Anyway I might if I meet some lucritive people there (yeah right). Maybe I should watch for people stealing surfboards and ask if I can join in joecaveman
Regular posted 06-12-2006 22:10

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I thought maybe I'd mention that these aren't scams. A scam involves tricking someone into willingly giving you something. These are just theivery ideas. The keys in the towel/shoe idea is an interesting one. I am Jacks User Name
Regular quote: posted 06-12-2006 23:10

Originally posted by joecaveman: I thought maybe I'd mention that these aren't scams. A scam involves tricking someone into willingly giving you something. These are just theivery ideas.

you beat me to it.

DingDong
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posted 06-13-2006 00:44

I do the sufboard stealing aswell, Its Very Very easy in New Hampshire.

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siphoning?

adam.88
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posted 06-14-2006 21:38

anyone know of any tool/device that simulates a vacuum or something so u wouldnt have 2suck though the hose? phade
Regular posted 06-14-2006 21:45

Get one of those rubber bulbs that they use to inflate the band that they take your blood pressure with and squeeze all the air out of it. Then connect it to the tube thats in the gas tank and let go of it. It should re-inflate and create a vacuum to draw the gas up. Edit: Actually I'm not sure about this I imagine it would depend on how big the bulb is and how long (how much air) the tube contains... [This message has been edited by phade (edited 06-14-2006).] sidewayz6.6
Regular quote: posted 06-14-2006 21:52

Originally posted by phade: Get one of those rubber bulbs that they use to inflate the band that they take your blood pressure with and squeeze all the air out of it. Then connect it to the tube thats in the gas tank and let go of it. It should re-inflate and create a vacuum to draw the gas up. Edit: Actually I'm not sure about this I imagine it would depend on how big the bulb is and how long (how much air) the tube contains...

Yes, that will work, but you have to hold your finger over the other end of the buld. Otherwise, it would just suck in air.

TweakNinja
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posted 06-14-2006 22:11

Just posting an idea ive been doing. I live near a Parking lot, In which no one is around for miles at night. It usually where i get licnse plates when i need them. What i Usually Do Is i take my drill, and find a suv, then i drill a hole in the bottom of the tank. ( If you do this Drill very slowly, i ve notice drilling fast creates heat and sparks) Take what i need and then plug it with a rubber stop. It works just make sure the stop is in there good or people will start running out of Gas, and then the jigg is up I have (6) 5 gallon gas can and first i fill my tank then i fill the rest up and keep em out back till i need some more, in one nights work i have a enought gass for weeks, [This message has been edited by TweakNinja (edited 06-14-2006).] Dandys_Rule_OK
Regular quote: posted 06-14-2006 22:59

Originally posted by TweakNinja: ( If you do this Drill very slowly, i ve notice drilling fast creates heat and sparks)

Sparks? I thought all fuel tanks were made of non-sparking material for obvious safety purposes. Dandy [This message has been edited by Dandys_Rule_OK (edited 06-14-2006).] TweakNinja
Regular posted 06-14-2006 23:32

it will throw a spark maybe one or two but all you need is one, all steel sparks, I learned this in welding class, ive learned how tell what class of steel was just by the spark charistics, But maybe more malible then the other but it still mild steel take a grinder to it see what happens Maybe i should add as far as ultra new cars ive never seen, the suvs around here have an mild steel Gas tank. and possible have a ruber liner in side besides that its nothing special.

ps. I live in the US, overseas the safety bar is alot higher, as much most american cars wont pass inspection in the UK with out modification [This message has been edited by TweakNinja (edited 06-14-2006).] WritingANovel
Regular posted 06-14-2006 23:36

I posted something similar before: ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ I have actually thought off an alternative to using mouth to prime the siphon. It involves a syringe, you know the kind nurses use to inject drugs into people. Then, I will devise some sort of coupling (it's been a long time and I have completely forgotten the name, I believe it was Franco coupling or something but when I googled I couldn't find anything); basically what this coupling does is it interfaces between two cylingers of different surface areas/radii. I would then attach one end of the coupling to the tubing, and the other end would be used as the "jack" for the syringe. Then I would just pull back the plunger and sucking up the fluid this way, without having to resort to my mouth. TweakNinja
Regular posted 06-14-2006 23:42

Go down to the local boat shop and get a bilge pump desinged to pump water out a boats hull and modifi it Sentinel
Regular posted 06-15-2006 00:43

aw hell just use your fucking mouth. You won't get gas in it if you're good. BackinBlack
Regular quote: posted 06-15-2006 02:16

Originally posted by TweakNinja: Just posting an idea ive been doing. I live near a Parking lot, In which no one is around for miles at night. It usually where i get licnse plates when i need them. What i Usually Do Is i take my drill, and find a suv, then i drill a hole in the bottom of the tank. ( If you do this Drill very slowly, i ve notice drilling fast creates heat and sparks) Take what i need and then plug it with a rubber stop. It works just make sure the stop is in there good or people will start running out of Gas, and then the jigg is up I have (6) 5 gallon gas can and first i fill my tank then i fill the rest up and keep em out back till i need some more, in one nights work i have a enought gass for weeks,

Don't most cars have a drain plug on the gas tank?

TweakNinja
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posted 06-15-2006 02:31

actually they do at least on the older models ive noticed but, the suvs around where i live are newer and the newer one don't

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Free drive-thru

Juicy J
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posted 06-17-2006 23:18

Okay this is how to get free food at any drive-thru with 2 windows, one where u order and pay and one where u get ur food. Make sure its a busy day and theres people in line behind you. When you reach the ordering window, say you forgot you wallet at home and pull ahead to the next window. The people behind you will order, but your infront of them so at the next window they will hand you they're order. This works because the employee at the first window won't run to the next window to say you didnt order. [This message has been edited by Juicy J (edited 06-17-2006).] 753951
Regular posted 06-17-2006 23:21

Haha, good idea. You'd have to be nice and slow getting to the second window though. And it should work... I mean, the guys in the second windows can't see you. plank00000
Regular posted 06-17-2006 23:28

this guy who looked like SWIM well i think it was him tried this today n it worked. He also gave me some food aswell but as far as i knew it was bought legit.. bloody criminals

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Paypal Scam

philthemn
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posted 06-16-2006 13:17

Ok, heres my idea. You set up the following (always using Tor & Privoxy to keep IP address anonymous): -A fake hotmail account (simply to administrate all the fiddly account creation) use this as the email address for all the other accounts. -A paypal account with all fake details. No bank account or Credit/debit card need be set up. (we'll call this 'paypal-1')

-an E-gold account. Again with fake details. - Another typical E-currency account such as Stormpay etc. Again, with fake details. - A genuine paypal account with real details and your credit/debit card set up. (having privoxy and Tor set-up isn't needed for this, and a different hotmail address should also be used) (we'll call this 'paypal-2') Right, so firstly, you put something up for sale on any of the various paypal shops. (http://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_shop-ext), using paypal-1 . Obviously with no intent to actually sell anything. When you recieve your money, you use one of the currency exchange websites (http://www.emoney-exchange.net/) to convert your paypal money into e-gold. Then you should shut down your paypal account to cut off any communication with the buyer/paypal. Now, convert your e-gold into stormpay currency, and convert that back to paypal, but this time to your genuine paypal-2 account. From there, you can simply withdraw your money into your bank account. If you repeat this a few times with relatively expensive items, alot of money cna be made even with commision charge on exchanges. The logic behind all this is simply to transfer the money over various companies to prevent any single company tracing your money back. The exchanging services are, I believe, anonymous, and so each company would have serious trouble tracking you. Once the money moves between services, it becomes effectively anonymous. The money then returns to paypal, so that you can physically retrieve it to your account, but, of course, no suspicious activity is linked with your tracable, verified account. Can any body spot any flaws, or find any improvements? I have thought about it a little and it seems feasable. [This message has been edited by philthemn (edited 06-16-2006).] Diesel
Regular posted 06-16-2006 13:20

Good idea. I can't spot any flaws as of yet. How much money have you made with this? philthemn
Regular posted 06-16-2006 13:26

none, I just thought of it yesterday...I'm trying to set it all up and work out which exchange sites seem the most legitimate (and have the lowest commision).

Pro
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posted 06-16-2006 13:26

Great Idea! But how can you make a paypal account that doesn't require any need of a creditcard or something like that. philthemn
Regular posted 06-16-2006 13:30

well, I checked it out, and you don't need any details other than the usual ones (Name, Address, Phone) to simply create the account. With no credit card you obviously can't add funds yourself, but you can send and recieve them. [This message has been edited by philthemn (edited 06-16-2006).] Dandys_Rule_OK
Regular posted 06-16-2006 13:59

Those payments can be traced, I know that e-gold has handed over transaction history to the US, unsure about stormpay. I'll have a look and find the sources regarding e-gold when I have more time. Dandy phade
Regular posted 06-16-2006 14:05

The companies themselves might not be able to trace you but once you start doing this with big enough amounts of money the government will get involved and they will be able to trace it. philthemn
Regular quote: posted 06-16-2006 14:11

The companies themselves might not be able to trace you but once you start doing this with big enough amounts of money the government will get involved and they will be able to trace it.

This is true enough, but I wouldn't imagine it being feasable for it to ever escalate to that level. Maybe a way of further covering your tracks would be use the electronic money at some (or many) stage(s) to buy some sort of digital goods (such as an E-book or a membership to a site), and then receiving these through e-mail, and downloading them with tor+privoxy or even on internet cafe (armed with a floppy disk), then selling them above board with COMPLETELY different accounts/details. Do this a few times and everything becomes a little blurred. [This message has been edited by philthemn (edited 06-16-2006).]

phade
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posted 06-16-2006 14:39

Eventually you are going to have to use a credit card though. You can make the trail as long and difficult to follow as you want but if you use a credit card that your connected to they will be able to find you. You could use a stolen credit card but then you have to becareful you do this all quickly before the person whose account your using notices something is up. SilentMind
Regular posted 06-16-2006 15:46

I think a better idea, would be to skip the legitimate account completely. Set up two false ones. When you get the money into the second one, instead of tying that to your credit card, just keep it in that account. Then you can buy things on ebay to resell later with a real paypal account. But if you get too greedy with this, they'll even trace it to your address. I guess at that point, you can use the funds the same way you would carding. Drop houses/P.O. boxes, etc. Your way, you'll get busted eventually, and plus paypal has a 500 a month withdrawl limit unless you give them a social security number. philthemn
Regular posted 06-16-2006 15:52

yeah, the whole reason that I didn't want to involve real, tangable objects is the fact that it is completely traceable to your address. The idea of using digital goods means you can completely break the link. If someone receives an item via email (anonymous account), then they can download it ( with a hidden IP, or a public computer, or leeching wireless somewhere) and sell it under a completely differenty identity. There are no links to the second identity..and how many thousands of people sell a given item at one time on the internet. [This message has been edited by philthemn (edited 06-16-2006).] viz7bl
Regular posted 06-16-2006 16:57

Instead of just transfering it, when you get to the last account that will switch it off to paypal-2, have paypal-2 set up an auction for something common, but too expensive for other people to bid on. Then have your stormpay account bid on it on ebay, make it look authentic by having a question posted if you accept stormpay. And don't use the same computer between the two accounts, have a proxy up or use a public computer. If planned right this will only take an extra few minutes of work on your part and it gives you a bit more security on you not being caught. Worth it in my opinion.

slacker431
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posted 06-16-2006 19:26

i don't know much about how pay pal works with fraud but what happens if you sell something on ebay and someone pays you with a stolen paypal acount? are you held liable and do you have to give the money back? because if you don't you could just set up a legit account in your name and a fake one with someone elses credit card and pretend to buy something from yourself and when the cops ask you about it just play it off that you had nothing to do with it and some guy bought whatever prodict you had for sale and you recieved the funds and mailed it to him and then give them a bogus address. or has that been covered? viz7bl
Regular posted 06-16-2006 19:39

That's exacatly what you do. Just use public computers and proxies with the fake paypal account. Only problem is that with a paypal account that doesn't have credit card/ debit card information, you can't send money out. What I did (if people remember this a few months ago on this forum) I offered people $100 for each $500 check they cashed and sent to a drop off mail point. If they didn't scam me and sent the $400, I kept them for a while which would give them about $1000 profit. It was basic money laundering. When you have money on a paypal account, you can recieve a cashier's check from paypal for $3. No credit card info needed, just a name and address. I did this with one person online, and a guy at college, the online guy stopped responding and sending the checks after about a month, he made out with $900 and I got $1600 out of it. If you find a reliable person to do this with you, you're set, but when the cops catch on (they do) make sure you let your contact know that all they have to do is claim ignorance and they'll be fine. Use proxies when contacting them, use an alternate email address, never use AIM or any other IM system when talking to them. Don't have them send the money directly to your address else the cops can contact them, find out the forward address and bust your ass. Enjoy. And for the morons, when you make the paypal account, you use your contact's information, address and name so (s)he can cash the check. And the above, I didn't really do it, I lied, that was all hypothetical, so coppers can suck my dick and fuck off. Edit: Not bothered enough to look, but I'm sure I wrote in there somewhere that I

did that scam in this forum, I fogot what forum I was in lol. I got the person from the Money Money Money forum. Not this one. Lol. [This message has been edited by viz7bl (edited 06-16-2006).] philthemn
Regular posted 06-17-2006 15:55

does anyone know the best and easiest place to sell using only paypal as verification? SicKn3sS
Regular posted 06-17-2006 20:11

wtf is a proxy gonna do? they can trace that too lol Almost Crimes
Regular posted 06-17-2006 20:31

Can't trace Tor + Privoxy. gunjah
Regular posted 06-17-2006 21:43

the only problem is that(in paypal atleast, i dno about the others) you need a credit card or bank set up to SEND money. The only way aroudn this is to buy a $25 simon gift card (they are visa, the american express gift cards dont work). http://www.simon.com/giftcard/ edit: fixed link [This message has been edited by gunjah (edited 06-17-2006).] NitrousMafia
Regular posted 06-17-2006 21:57

^^^ yea simon gift card works great for credit card necesities online. But alot of people pay thru paypal with credit card, so you need a credit card on file to receive credit card payments. And dont fill out any information on simon gift card cause sometimes logging in they demand info but you dont need it to purchase stuff online like they say.

handgernade14
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posted 06-17-2006 22:28

Go to a YMCA rent a locker, leave, copy the key, comeback and check out of the locker. Check every once and a while for credit card. Copy the info so he dosent know. Set up the paypal 1 with his info. Transfer it to a stormpay with fake info have that account buy something from another fake account but switch the address so its "sending" it to a fake address but with the other account just send it to the write address. cobra47
Regular posted 06-18-2006 01:08

People are unlikely to buy something from you via a PayPal shop if you have no transaction history. That said, people aren't going to look too hard for their missing money because I think PayPal provides free coverage for up to 500 bucks if something goes wrong? philthemn
Regular quote: posted 06-18-2006 10:49

the only problem is that(in paypal atleast, i dno about the others) you need a credit card or bank set up to SEND money.

I've managed to both send and receieve money with a non-verified paypal with no credit card or bank details set up. [This message has been edited by philthemn (edited 06-18-2006).] viz7bl
Regular quote: posted 06-18-2006 18:06

Originally posted by SicKn3sS: wtf is a proxy gonna do? they can trace that too lol

They can't pull the proxy's logs from proxy servers based in countries outside of <insert your country here> jurisdiction. Many of those exist in Africa, and unless you pulled off the biggest computer crime your country had ever seen, they aren't going to come rushing into that country to physically remove you're IP from their databases. And you should be using a public computer regardless along top of that.

john b
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posted 06-18-2006 18:13

on the paypal website it says you can wire money to anyone with an email address. does anyone know how this works because i have looked all over the paypal site and even created an account and come up with FA. obviously you cant deposit cash into an email address. would the recipient need a bank account, a paypal account or what? 753951
Regular posted 06-18-2006 18:15

I think that just means you can "send money" to any email address and that person will then be told that they have funds waiting. To accept these funds they would then set up a paypal account. viz7bl
Regular posted 06-18-2006 18:15

You wire it to someone with an email address after they sign up for paypal. It's just an advertisement. tony101
Regular posted 06-19-2006 02:47

Hey viz7bl could you go over that fuckin paypal scam that you mentioned. philthemn
Regular quote: posted 06-19-2006 10:42

Hey viz7bl could you go over that fuckin paypal scam that you mentioned.

I think what he meant was to sell something with a genuine account on ebay, and get your fake account to buy it. This way you can get fraudulent money to a verified account, and it looks as though the seller is the innocent party. [This message has been edited by philthemn (edited 06-19-2006).]

tony101
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posted 06-19-2006 12:32

quote:

Originally posted by philthemn: I think what he meant was to sell something with a genuine account on ebay, and get your fake account to buy it. This way you can get fraudulent money to a verified account, and it looks as though the seller is the innocent party.

I'm not quite sure that's what he meant, he meantioned sending a cashiers check to your paypal account that is under the name of the person that's sending the cheques. I'd like to try that scam but I quite don't follow it. [This message has been edited by tony101 (edited 06-19-2006).] philthemn
Regular quote: posted 06-19-2006 16:18

I'm not quite sure that's what he meant

oh yeah, sorry, I was thinking of a completely different post.

Author

Topic:

Barnes and Noble

phade
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posted 06-17-2006 18:10

So anyway SWIM went to barnes and noble earlier today. He went down all the sections and picked up about 15 hard cover books. Then he went to the bargain book section and found books that are on sale that are approximately the same size. SWIM then went to a deserted corner of the store and swapped the dust covers of the books he wanted with the dust covers on the bargain books. He now had 15~ hardcover books with bargain price fly leafs on them. He goes up to the lady with his big ass stack of books and and she checks them all out and he walks out the door. Cost of the average hardcover - 25$ Cost of the bargain book - 5-7$ Number of books - 15~ Total cost - 90$ Approx money saved - 285~$ This scam is easy to pull and for all intents and purposes fullproof. If you like to read I suggest that you try this out.

Millixion
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posted 06-17-2006 18:13

Not trying to crash your celebration, but what the fuck are you going to do with $285 (retail) worth of books. If you try to sell them, assuming people will even buy them, they're probably going to sell for right on or even under $90. The only exception being if they're REALLY popular books (Da Vinci Code) and/or manga. Tamerlane
Regular posted 06-17-2006 18:21

He'll read them, dumbass. Ever heard of something called reading? phade
Regular quote: posted 06-17-2006 18:53

Originally posted by Millixion: Not trying to crash your celebration, but what the fuck are you going to do with $285 (retail) worth of books. If you try to sell them, assuming people will even buy them, they're probably going to sell for right on or even under $90. The only exception being if they're REALLY popular books (Da Vinci Code) and/or manga.

He likes to read them so he figures if he is going to continue reading he may as well do it at a discount. dDIzzIEe
Regular posted 06-18-2006 19:45

One may also be interested in some ways to obtain free bookstore credit WritingANovel
Regular quote: posted 06-18-2006 20:24

Originally posted by phade: So anyway SWIM went to barnes and noble earlier today. He went down all the sections and picked up about 15 hard cover books. Then he went to the bargain book section and found books that are on sale that are approximately the same size. SWIM then went

to a deserted corner of the store and swapped the dust covers of the books he wanted with the dust covers on the bargain books. He now had 15~ hardcover books with bargain price fly leafs on them. He goes up to the lady with his big ass stack of books and and she checks them all out and he walks out the door.

The plan is straightforward and easy to carry out, what's more, it seems fool-proof. It's especially good news for people like me/us, who not only like to read, but also desire the ownership of good books. Furthermore, I have always considered books in general to be over-priced. I understand that books are not merely ink printed on paper; and that they are the brain child of writers. However, it seems to me that the price for their labour and efforts should have been borne at the level of the publishers already, so I don't really see why they should trickle down onto the bookstore level.
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This scam is easy to pull and for all intents and purposes fullproof

Let me guess. You tend to read non-fiction, am I right? intended. Love your idea, Phade. You should post more.

Lol j/k. No disrespect

[This message has been edited by WritingANovel (edited 06-18-2006).] viz7bl
Regular quote: posted 06-18-2006 22:01

Originally posted by dDIzzIEe: One may also be interested in some ways to obtain free bookstore credit

How is it that every idea on totse, you've already thought of and made a text file on it. HOW!? Lol. Edit: Checked out Dizzie's link, a must see. [This message has been edited by viz7bl (edited 06-18-2006).]

wapazoid
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posted 06-19-2006 02:04

quote:

Originally posted by phade: So anyway SWIM went to barnes and noble earlier today. He went down all the sections and picked up about 15 hard cover books. Then he went to the bargain book section and found books that are on sale that are approximately the same size. SWIM then went to a deserted corner of the store and swapped the dust covers of the books he wanted with the dust covers on the bargain books. He now had 15~ hardcover books with bargain price fly leafs on them. He goes up to the lady with his big ass stack of books and and she checks them all out and he walks out the door. Cost of the average hardcover - 25$ Cost of the bargain book - 5-7$ Number of books - 15~ Total cost - 90$ Approx money saved - 285~$ This scam is easy to pull and for all intents and purposes fullproof. If you like to read I suggest that you try this out.

I'd say that's a pretty good haul. I'm a bit surprised that you actually found a secluded spot long enough to swap those covers. Maybe it's because the B&N's where I live are always packed with rovers. Were you certain you were in a camera free zone? cegha
Regular quote: posted 06-19-2006 02:13

Originally posted by wapazoid: I'd say that's a pretty good haul. I'm a bit surprised that you actually found a secluded spot long enough to swap those covers. Maybe it's because the B&N's where I live are always packed with rovers. Were you certain you were in a camera free zone?

Honestly how long do you think it takes to switch a book cover. It's not a 30 minute procedure or anything.

wapazoid
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posted 06-19-2006 02:18

Have you swapped 15 covers in a popular book store? nature
Regular posted 06-19-2006 02:57

Who reads books? rapydfyre
Regular quote: posted 06-19-2006 04:27

Originally posted by nature: Who reads books?

Just about everyone who goes to school.

Author

Topic:

Kmart Serial Swap

Aquarillis
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posted 06-19-2006 03:47

Ok, I want to get some Xbox 360 controllers on the cheap... Here's the plan: Swap the bar codes on a normal xbox controller on top of a wireless 360 controller bar code. Since they're both have the name xbox, the cashier wouldn't tell the difference, and from there i can either use them of sell them. grungekid
Regular posted 06-19-2006 03:52

Not a bad idea. Dont get caught or you get in assload of trouble, but you should be fine. Pick your clerk dude. dDIzzIEe
Regular posted 06-19-2006 04:26

Some more tips on barcoding can be found here

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Topic:

How to make a product defect?

baso
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posted 06-16-2006 12:11

I have a mp3 player and if it gets defect and fixed and defect and fixed and defect 3rd time i can get my money back. So how do i make a product defect without they understanding i did it my self? john b
Regular posted 06-16-2006 18:50

why would you want to do this? your only going to get the money you paid for it and you will lose the mp3. mowglee
Regular posted 06-16-2006 19:58

john b: Maybe he stole the mp3 player and wants to get money for it. Try putting it in water or throwing it out the window. Fate
Moderator posted 06-16-2006 20:02

Static damage is your friend. A good source of high voltage static discharge is a piezoelectric grill igniter. A couple of multi-kilovolt zaps across whatever terminals are available on the thing without opening it up (as this generally voids the warranty) should do the trick. The data port or wherever you plug in the USB cable would be a good bet. john b
Regular quote: posted 06-16-2006 20:07

Originally posted by mowglee: john b: Maybe he stole the mp3 player and wants to get money for it. Try putting it in water or throwing it out the window.

but if he stole it there would'nt be a guarantee or warrenty on it.

cegha
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posted 06-16-2006 20:08

this is very easy to do, take your mp3 player, and just do a small 2 foot drop, while changing songs. Insta-kill!! I'm on my 3rd MP3 player, i tend to update about twice a year lol. I don't do it on purpose but i buy warrenty's, and like the previous 2 i have had, i would be sitting in a chair, and change the song and sit it in my lap, and turn around or something and it fell on the floor (were talking a 1-2 foot fall), and it kills it. It fucks up the hd to where the entire hd would have to be replaced for it to work correctly. But yeah, while changing songs, try dropping it and you should kill it. If it reboots and won't let you listen to your music, it's toast. mowglee
Regular quote: posted 06-16-2006 22:36

Originally posted by john b: but if he stole it there would'nt be a guarantee or warrenty on it.

Not true with ipods. "If a defect arises and a valid claim is received by Apple within the Warranty Period, at its option, Apple will (1) repair the product at no charge, using new or refurbished replacement parts, (2) exchange the product with a product that is new or which has been manufactured from new or serviceable used parts and is at least functionally equivalent to the original product, or (3) refund the purchase price of the product." http://store.apple.com/Catalog/US/Images/ipodwarranty.html baso
Regular quote: posted 06-17-2006 05:05

Originally posted by Fate: Static damage is your friend. A good source of high voltage static discharge is a piezoelectric grill igniter. A couple of multi-kilovolt zaps across whatever terminals are available on the thing without opening it up (as this generally voids the warranty) should do the trick. The data port or wherever you plug in the USB cable would be a good bet.

The mp3 is not stolen but bought. i have the invoice also. the trick is that i have paid 200usd for it. then i use it and after some months if i can make it defect without the shop have any proof of any misuse for me i will get the money back. i live in a europe country. So i can not let it fall down from 1-2foot because if the shop finds out when they open it that it has had a fall i will get nothing because its my own fault. To user Fate: you wrote :A good source of high voltage static discharge is a piezoelectric grill igniter. A couple of multi-kilovolt zaps across whatever I live in europe so my english is not perfect. what is piezoelectric grill igniter? multi-kilovolt zaps across? Can you tell me where to buy this stuff and howto use it on the usb plug in the player? Have you ever tried this before? Had success in the scam? cegha
Regular quote: posted 06-17-2006 05:08

Originally posted by baso: The mp3 is not stolen but bought. i have the invoice also. the trick is that i have paid 200usd for it. then i use it and after some months if i can make it defect without the shop have any proof of any misuse for me i will get the money back. i live in a europe country. So i can not let it fall down from 1-2foot because if the shop finds out when they open it that it has had a fall i will get nothing because its my own fault. To user Fate: you wrote :A good source of high voltage static discharge is a piezoelectric grill igniter. A couple of multi-kilovolt zaps across whatever I live in europe so my english is not perfect. what is piezoelectric grill igniter? multi-kilovolt zaps across? Can you tell me where to buy this stuff and howto use it on the usb plug in the player? Have you ever tried this before? Had success in the scam?

hes talking about an electric grill starter. (I believe). You can easily rip them off any electric grill at wally world. Have they taken over europe yet?

Mythicallava
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posted 06-17-2006 05:12

Put some electricity through it, that should do it. Or take a piss on it and when the returns guy asks, blame the dog... baso
Regular posted 06-19-2006 01:07

any serious help here? anyone had experience with this? wapazoid
Regular quote: posted 06-19-2006 01:18

Originally posted by baso: I have a mp3 player and if it gets defect and fixed and defect and fixed and defect 3rd time i can get my money back. So how do i make a product defect without they understanding i did it my self?

So, this mp3 player has to be returned to the manufacturer three times in order for you to get a full refund? That's a pretty wild return policy. Does it apply for the life of the unit, or is there a specific time frame? Has it been returned at least once yet? If you really need the money, why not just sell the damn thing? baso
Regular posted 06-19-2006 01:22

yes three times if they can repair it. But if i can kill it then i can either get a replace or a refund. So isnt it smart to buy electric products then kill them after 6months and get money back? Work with me here........ wapazoid
Regular posted 06-19-2006 01:40

I usually don't buy electronics just to use for 6 months.

Author

Topic:

Train Hopping

Ocontoa
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posted 06-20-2006 01:34

I'm reading evasion, could someone direct me to some documentation (Or explain to me) the finer arts of train hopping, and explain to me exactly what this whole 'receipt scam' thing is? fused
Regular posted 06-20-2006 01:48

Why not just hop freight? It's a shitload more dangerous, but in a way it's less risky. Just make sure you get off before railyards and you won't get caught. It's safer to just hop off the train and walk to the other side of the yards and catch an outbound train than it is to risk getting caught by a security officer. Ocontoa
Regular posted 06-20-2006 01:51

I don't even understand how to get on the trains. I've never seen it done, and never tried it myself..But SWIM has kinda been inspired to just be a nomad for awhile starting in a few weeks after the end of school. So, Uh..This is a stupid question but.. Should he just run after the train and grab onto whatever he can hold onto? [This message has been edited by Ocontoa (edited 06-20-2006).] fused
Regular posted 06-20-2006 02:07

It's easiest to get on a train near the railyards, where the train has not yet accelerated to it's full speed (If the train is going at full speed, don't even try and get on, you will get killed). Trains tend to slow down in heavily urbanized areas (cities, large towns), so that's one of the better places to get on. Another good place is near sharp curves, as a train has to slow down a great deal to ransverse the curve safely. A good rule of thumb is, if it's going faster than you can jog, it's going too fast. Jog along side the train and if you have a pack, keep it on your back (some folks will say to toss it on the train first, but if you fall, you don't want to lose it). As you jog grasp your hands onto the little ladder on the chassis (if there is one, if not, try another car). Once you have a decent grip, get your feet up there, and make sure you keep your balance, and also make sure to keep your feet the fuck away from the wheels or any moving parts. There, you are on it. I can't really help you with how to get into cars to find shelter, as all of my trips have been very short. To get off, wait until the train is going fairly slow, then just climb down while keeping your balance, and as soon as your feet make contact with the ground, start running, or else you will probably get dragged and killed. [This message has been edited by fused (edited 06-20-2006).]

Ocontoa
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posted 06-20-2006 02:14

Can you describe to me some of your experiences? Getting killed isn't really an option for me, and you seem to know what you're talking about. :P fused
Regular posted 06-20-2006 02:22

Well, you should do a lot more reading before you attempt it. I don't want to feel responsible for somebody getting killed. I've only done it a few times myself, and all of my trip have been between 5-10 minutes. Just to ferry my lazy ass a few miles without having to walk. There is a busy railroad track near where I live and it was easier than walking around the city. I hope there is another totsean that is more experienced with actual "out in the country" rail hopping, I'm sure they can help you out. Sentinel
Regular posted 06-20-2006 02:26

This actually sounds really fun. I think I'm going to spend a future summer as a nomad like this. Ocontoa
Regular posted 06-20-2006 02:26

Ah, Thank you though.. Like I said; I've been reading 'Evasion' and have been fascinated with things surrounding the nomadic life of today. Ravendust
Regular posted 06-20-2006 07:21

#1 Just remember getting off is the most critical part, either you wait for the train to slow and then sprint off, or, preferably you wait for the train to slow completely and then throw your backpack off and climb out. I'm lucky because sometimes there are shattered rain gutters in the train station platform walls around the country trains that run in and out of Melbourne. You can get off and in time sneak into one of those if you are extremely nimble and fast. No one will see you there, until the train and its passengers leave, then you are off.

Ocontoa
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posted 06-20-2006 12:39

Heh..You fine gentlemen have saved a young and aspiring hobo from commiting trainicide by accident. :P boozehound420
Regular posted 06-20-2006 15:37

ive met alot of graffiti artist who have gotten FUCKED up by trains, one guy i hang out with regularly was out with his buddy painting trains when the train suddenly jumped forward a couple feet his foot was severd completly except for a couple feet of teninds/veins/threads of musscle his friend wrapped all the grose shit around his foot, picked him up and walked for 30 minutes to the road to call an ambulance just be fucken carefull WritingANovel
Regular quote: posted 06-20-2006 16:10

Originally posted by Ocontoa: Heh..You fine gentlemen have saved a young and aspiring hobo from commiting trainicide by accident. :P

Hello Mr. Ocontoa, I don't suppose you care to have a little chat with me over AIM? If you do, my AIM handle is WritingAPuppy. I have always wanted to be a freewheeling hobo. And I have thought long and hard about it. It might be to our mutual benefit that we get together and talk shop. Thank you for your time. ronaybarkay
Regular posted 06-20-2006 18:09

Me and my friend did train hopping or train surfing as we liked to call it. On the trains in our area they must have designed them so you could do it, theres a bar on the back of the train as well as a foot hold bit ? the train looks like this to get a better idea. http://tinyurl.com/n7wd6

SilentMind
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posted 06-20-2006 20:29

Does anyone have any idea as to the consequences of getting caught playing stowaway on a cargo train? I'm sure security wont like it too much, but what laws are you actually breaking? Do they just throw you off, or will there be legal reprecussions as well? iamaswamp
Regular posted 06-20-2006 21:49

First off, riding freight trains is extremely dangerous if you do not have any idea what you are doing. In fact I highly reccommend not hopping trains until you meet someone who has done it who can atleast show you around a train yard and show you what types of cars are rideable etc. You can lose a limb on a train, you can freeze to death on a train, you can be crushed to death by shifting cargo, you can get locked into a box car and starve to death, you can get arrested, you can get caught in the middle of nowhere in the middle of summer with no water. If you seriously plan on travelling across the country you need someone to show you in person. Until you find someone to show you, I'd suggest reading "Hopping Freight Trains in America" also www.crimethinc.com (the collective that put out evasion) also puts out a free zine called "DIY Guide 2" that has lotsa info on travelling and shoplifting and stuff that also has a good short section on freight hopping. As far as meeting people who hop freight trains, it's not too likely that you know very many old school hobos that can teach you. However, as far as younger people go a lot of crusty punks and anarchists still hop freight trains so if you can find and meet some punks and anarchists you'll probably eventually find some who have rode trains or know people who've rode trains. Also www. crimethinc.net and www.digihitch.com are good sites that people who hop trains sometimes post to. There are also hobo conventions, the rainbow gathering, crimethinc convergence, and punk/hardcore festivals at any of these places you can meet people who have hopped trains and meet all sorts of travellers. You're also going to want to have a copy of something called the "Crew Change" this is basically a zine distributed through photocopies among train-hoppers, it contains information on where train yards are, when trains are coming to those yards, where they might be going, etc. It takes a while to learn how to read but once you understand it the information in it is absolutely invaluable to you while hopping trains. The information, however, is always changing so it might not be entirely accurate, try and find the most recent version you can as well. I suggest not travelling alone, especially when you first start travelling. It's much safer to be with a partner and watch out for each other. Also, if you want to start travelling you might want to hitch-hike first and learn to get around that way and you'll eventually start to meet other travellers and eventually you'll find people who've hopped trains and such. NEVER catch a train on the fly if you haven't had someone teach you, not even if you can "jog" as fast as it. Once you have a crew change you will learn where trains will be stopping, only get on stopped trains. Only if you are with a very experienced train hopper who knows how should you catch on the fly. Also there are many types of trains cars you can get injured on, there are also certain train cars that the cops will think you are trying to rob the train if they find you on, learn what types of cars you can for sure be safe riding on, be

patient and don't risk getting on a dangerous car if you are uncertain. Always bring plenty of water, especially in the summer. Watch out for bulls (railroad police) they usually hang around yards in SUVS or pick-up trucks. There is a whole fucking lot more to it you should learn before you ride trains... maybe I'll write up a bit more later. A receipt scam is when you walk around a parking lot or dig through trash searching for a receipt then steal the product that was purchased and return it to the store with the receipt so that you receive cash. iamaswamp
Regular posted 06-20-2006 21:52

I have been caught hopping trains once and I only got pulled off and had to hitchike out of the town... However, I know people who've spent a couple nights in jail, or who've had to appear in court and pay fines, or who've been beat up by the cops. They pretty much can do whatever they want depending on what they charge you with and where you were caught. Typically, you only get pulled off, sometimes you'll get charged with trespassing, in rare instances you might be tried with something harsher... Never hop a UPS train, military train (all black cars), trains carrying automobiles, or anything else of significant value. Stick to trains carrying junk like coal, scrap metal, lumber, freight, etc. cegha
Regular quote: posted 06-20-2006 21:59

Originally posted by Ocontoa: I'm reading evasion, could someone direct me to some documentation (Or explain to me) the finer arts of train hopping, and explain to me exactly what this whole 'receipt scam' thing is?

Well the receipt scam thing i think your referring to is this. Basically you walk into walmart, and go get a DVD, CD or something you want, and purchase it, come back the next day with the receipt, and go get the SAME DVD, and goto customer service, and just tell them it's not what you wanted and you would like to return it. You end up with the DVD, CD, etc. you wanted,and didn't have to worry about stealing just the CD, DVD, etc. so you have the case and stuff to go with it, and of course you get CASH back.

PsYcHO
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posted 06-20-2006 22:03

Iv hopped onto 2 freight trains in my time, and I was shitting myself both times, but managed it ok. Just get it when its slow, get on, then sit tight. Get off before its totally stopped, but dont go when its moving at any decent speed. YOu wills everly hurt yourself. Best of luck to you. boozehound420
Regular posted 06-21-2006 03:12

i talked to a few buddies last night about it and they;ve all recently stopped doing this, one guy stopped after he almost froze to death, he was dressed warm but what some people dont realize is trains go FAST!!!, they only slow down near roads and someplaces only in day time hours, they easily get up to 100km/h he said he was so fucking cold, the train was at top speed for over an hour and half, eventually he decided he had to jump of, so he waited till there was a grass hill on the edge of the track and jumped when the train was going full speed, broke his wrist and had to walk 4 hours back up the train tracks to town another guy said he almost had a heart attack when he was ontop of a passenger train drunk tryign to get across the river back home cause he had no ride, but he didnt know the train goes top speed over the bridge and shakes violently with over a 200 foot drop to the water below TWINTURBOSkyline
Regular posted 06-21-2006 07:07

I would suggest visiting a train spotting website. Then you can get to know the different types of wagons, locomotives etc and know the safe parts of wagons etc. If there is a station /platform with a loop around it (http://tinyurl.com/ o6937) and wait until a train comes into the platform track and stops to wait for another train to cross. If there is a boxcar your fine. You have shelter and something to hold onto. If the wagon is a container wagon you will want to sit infront of the container in the way of direction so if the train comes to a sudden halt, you wont fall over and into the coupler. If the container wagon is empty sit in the middle of it. Dont try and hop on a coal/grain hopper! I cant really help you all out because I am only familiar with Australian railway set-ups.

iamaswamp
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posted 06-21-2006 07:47

Why not hop grainers? they are some of the best trains to hop... maybe it's different in AU though than it is here in the USA. Anyways yes you can freeze, but not really in the summer, but you will get cold and need a jacket and sleeping bag unless it's the hottest part of summer. Also, DO NOT fucking hop drunk that is a fucking stupid idea. And never fucking hop off a train moving full speed, you will fucking break your neck. Also wear a bandanna/hankerchief soaked in water over your face if you go through any tunnels, the tunnel will fill up completely with smoke from the engine and you need the water soaked bandanna to act as a filter to breathe. [This message has been edited by iamaswamp (edited 06-21-2006).] Ocontoa
Regular posted 06-21-2006 14:55

*stupid question The bandana, Can I soak it and wear it for some time after it dries and still have the 'filtering' effect? hawis
Regular posted 06-21-2006 15:18

Arrrrrrh trainsurfing http://www.fotolog.com/trainsurfers gomp
Regular posted 06-21-2006 19:39

for some reason while reading this I keep thinkin of building a buncha stuff onto a bike so you could hook onto a train and climb on/off easier and at higher speeds. but this is only becasue I am todamn lazy to jog after a train wh ynot ride a bike after it yah know? iamaswamp
Regular posted 06-21-2006 20:41

No the bandanna has to be wet. just take a bandanna with you and pour water on it before you go in a tunnel and tie it or hold it over your moth and nose and breathe through the bandanna for the duration of the tunnel. There still wont be much oxygen, be careful not to pass out if you end up going through a very long tunnel. You only really have to worry about this when you are around huge mountains and shit.

phade
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posted 06-21-2006 21:12

Besides free transportation what is the point of train hopping? I mean honestly if your doing it to look cool your asking to have a leg chopped off. gam3r_with_revenge
Regular posted 06-21-2006 21:56

you guys just gave me idea for this summer ill hop a kitchener train and go to like ottowa So, Uh..This is a stupid question but.. Should he just run after the train and grab onto whatever he can hold onto? [/B][/QUOTE] warren1
Regular posted 06-21-2006 22:18

Ya i live in Ottawa. The trains are so sleek/smooth now its almost impossible. crimethincing
Regular posted 06-22-2006 02:25

I found a link where there is some pretty good advice, especially int he second post. i hope you find it helpful! http:/ /trainhopp ing.tribe. net/thread /0bb21548- 910d-423a- ab57-a53ac c26187a

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Free Printing on College Campuses

sandmander
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posted 06-21-2006 20:55

Alot of college campuses, including mine, are moving over to a system called "PrintWise". If you've seen it you'll know what I'm talking about. Alot of these same colleges have public labs, or labs open 24 hours a day. The system works by sending your print job to a "print station" which is just another PC with the management app on it, allowing you to swip your card and pay. Now this software is called "Go Print" and you can access lots of fun stuff by clicking the "G" at the top left corner of the screen. Doing this you can shut down the app and access windows, which, if you're absolutely cunning, could allow you, theoretically to install some sort of capturing device to monitor the card swips; in essence a keylogger for people's valuable card data. BUT... that's not my point. The point is you can log in from this window and set the PC to a "Release Station" which will allow free printing. The default name and pass for this is admin//admin upon installation and I've found, at least at my school, this does not get changed since it is a trick to find the login in a the first place. If there is a color printer connected then bingo, free dvd labels, pictures, w/e you want. Another thing that actually worked in the lab here is adding the color laser printer directly within windows. This is subject to the PCs restrictions of course, but if you are

able, you can install drivers (even if you have to bring them in via CD) and print directly to the machines with no data trail at all. If you find that the college near you has this system good luck with it and have fun. Remember to always set the print station back to charging for copies or a wily admin WILL eventually find out and ruin your scam. Good luck.

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self checkout scam

MGJ2
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posted 06-21-2006 17:55

im basing this idea on the self checkout systems at most stores. background to buy alchohol, paint and other products u must be at least 18 or 21 and need an employees approval to buy these items at a self checkout system. if u hang around long enough you should be able to see an employee put in the store code followed by there own code. we got an employees code and used it to verify that we were old enough to buy some questionable products. but while we were entering the code there is a button that tells the machine to dispense cash in the amounts of 5 10 or 20 dollars. my new idea is to help get the code easier. since the buttons are a touch screen system and human hands have oils on them i was wondering if u first cleaned the screen with a baby wipe or something and then they entered there code if there would be any way to tell which buttons they pressed. is there any quick way to make fingerprints visible on a touch screen surface. this is just an idea and im not sure how it will work. any ideas are appreciated. thanks Millixion
Regular quote: posted 06-21-2006 18:06

Originally posted by MGJ2: im basing this idea on the self checkout systems at most stores. background to buy alchohol, paint and other products u must be at least 18 or 21 and need an employees approval to buy these items at a self checkout system. if u hang around long enough you should be able to see an employee put in the store code followed by there own code. we got an employees code and used it to verify that we were old enough to buy some questionable products. but while we were entering the code there is a button that tells the machine to dispense cash in the amounts of 5 10 or 20 dollars. my new idea is to help get the code easier. since the buttons are

a touch screen system and human hands have oils on them i was wondering if u first cleaned the screen with a baby wipe or something and then they entered there code if there would be any way to tell which buttons they pressed. is there any quick way to make fingerprints visible on a touch screen surface. this is just an idea and im not sure how it will work. any ideas are appreciated. thanks

Believe me, they do not go through the lengths of fingerprint technology to verify an employee number in a commercial self-checkout machine. I don't really get what your point is. Please elaborate. MGJ2
Regular posted 06-21-2006 18:19

im not saying it takes fingerprints, but to buy an item that you have to be at least 18 or 21 to buy an employee will come over and check ur id. if u have id then they will put in there code and verify that you have id. if you dont, then the machine will not let you but the item. i mean is there a way to view there fingerprints so you can tell what buttons to press to enter the code. the employees finger must leave behind some trace of the buttons they pressed. Fate
Moderator posted 06-21-2006 18:22

On a clean touch screen no extra equipment is required. The cashier's fingerprints will probably be visible on it if you just look at the thing from the right angle. MGJ2
Regular posted 06-21-2006 18:30

wow i didnt know it was that easy, thanks Hookah bookaH
Regular posted 06-21-2006 19:10

I'll try this at Home Depot. But, it might be hard to tell which Order he hits the buttons gomp
Regular posted 06-21-2006 19:13

I think your best bet would be to buy some thing late at night while its slow, watch the code and memorise it, come back when it is crazy buisy, buy some thing small and have the machine spit out way to much change tada

753951
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posted 06-21-2006 19:18

Why go through all that trouble?! Just mess up one of the barcodes of a normal producy, a bar of chocolate or whatever and say it won't scan through. They will come over, put there id in and enter the amount. Just watch em put their code in...

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Raffle Scam

lilmissthis
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posted 06-21-2006 01:14

I've been reading a lot about scams on this forum and I figured I'd share my experience. When I was about 14, my friend and I bought some raffle tickets from the dollar store and printed out some information about the Make-A-Wish Foundation (any other charity would work, too). We then went to the rich part of our city and went door-to-door selling raffle tickets. We told people that our school was selling the tickets and all of the proceeds would be donated to the Make-A-Wish Foundation. I talked about the charity if people were unfamiliar with it, although most were. We also said that the raffle ticket prize was a basket filled with various prizes (movies, soaps, etc.) and we would contact them in a week if they won. People then wrote down their address, phone number, and name on our clipboard and donated money (an average of $5-$10). I only did this once, but everything went smoothly and my friend and I racked in about $50 from a half-hour session. This scheme works really well and the riskfactor is very low. It works best for school-aged people, but I'm sure you could twist the idea around if you are older. TWINTURBOSkyline
Regular posted 06-21-2006 07:24

Nice. stonerdelasoul
Regular posted 06-21-2006 10:35

need a popular UK charity to do this with.-..and a list of addresses from a school would be pretty good, you could claim you were from their kids particular school, they wouldnt disbelieve for a second. yia

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Stealing copper + aluminum from construction sites

john_deer
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posted 06-19-2006 20:06

I know you could get copper wires and such but what else?

BobDude
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posted 06-19-2006 20:27

It's much better to steal them from DESTRUCTION sites. Sneak in before the building is destroyed, rip out as much copper as you can and then hide it somewhere, and do it again. When you can get a few bucks a pound for the stuff, it can be very profitiable, expecially considering that you could get a few hundred pounds of the stuff from a medium sized house. -ORYou can just steal all the metal you want from metal only dumpsters. If you are caught just say you are using it to make something, or have a good excuse. ~BobDude viz7bl
Regular posted 06-19-2006 23:19

Go to houses under developement that have the wiring installed, but not connected up to the towers yet. Take all the wiring and you have yourself easily 30+ lbs of copper for 10 minutes of work. Alluminum ladders. Optionryder420
Regular posted 06-20-2006 03:49

Don't do construction homes, it's basicly going to be legal if you do it from a site that's being demolished or that has been abandoned. Der Commissar
Regular posted 06-20-2006 05:42

My old copper farming thread should be around somewhere... Anyway- r.e. stealing from demolished sites- it's not really that practical- unless you life in the inner city or something. How many abandoned buildings do you know of that aren’t occupied by junkies or already stripped of all valueables including wire, furthermore, to get said wire, you have to break down walls and sift through cockroaches, rat shit and asbestos. Go to a construction site and you get freshly installed wires just hanging from uncovered walls- and maybe even some still on the spool lying around And most construction sites are not guarded and have poor security. If you find a virgin abandoned building and strip it, you’re still breaking the law. Demolition companies salvage the shit and don’t appreciate kids ripping copper out from the walls. But copper farming is a sweet way to make money- $6 a kilo- I have about 50kg cleaned in my garage waiting to be traded in when I need money

Millixion
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posted 06-20-2006 06:08

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Originally posted by BobDude: You can just steal all the metal you want from metal only dumpsters.

I have never heard of a metal only dumpster. Where might one find one of these? boozehound420
Regular posted 06-20-2006 15:40

just be like the junkies in my city, one stole a fucking bronze memorial plak of a bridge fucken crackheads john_deer
Regular posted 06-20-2006 15:52

how bout copper pipes? they are heavier... anyways, what does copper wire look like? n00b question but the type im thinking about isn't heavy Havoc737903
Regular quote: posted 06-20-2006 15:53

Originally posted by Millixion: I have never heard of a metal only dumpster. Where might one find one of these?

Anything auto related. My mom works at a car dealership, and they've got a metal only dumpster that they throw old used parts in, etc. Make sure parts you get aren't covered in oil, and try to get either clean parts, or clean them up once you do get them, because clean copper and other metals get more money at the scrap yard than say a rusted engine block that's falling apart.

Der Commissar
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posted 06-21-2006 03:10

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Originally posted by john_deer: how bout copper pipes? they are heavier... anyways, what does copper wire look like? n00b question but the type im thinking about isn't heavy

You're probably thinking of the wire in small electronics and stuff. If you were to go to construction sites you'd find wire easily 1cm in diamater and in bunches of 3-5 usu. look out your window and you'll most likely see power lines- if you can get 10m of stuff that size you'd be doing ok. And they're plastic coated, btw, so you have to strip all that shit off. Wire is actualy heavier than pipes because it's solid- and worth more money per kg for some reason. carltonbcool
Regular posted 06-22-2006 18:03

forget about the copper. get a trailer and a buddy then go steal the plywood from a construction site. most construction sites have stacks of around 100 4'x8' sheets of plywood that retail for 10$-25$ a peice. the average price for those is around 18$ a sheet of plywood. most places that are building houses have this. if you both lift the plywood together you can carry around 7 to 8 peices of plywood at a time. be quick and load up the trailer with 40 or 50 peices. this can be done in under 5 minutes if you park your trialer right beside or in front of the stacks of plywood. after you load up you will have succesfully stolen 1,000$ in plywood. dont get caught with it of course. i wouldn't suggest doing this unless you have somebody that will buy it. this one guy named swim stole 40 sheets of plywood and took them to home depot and got around 700$ on a gift card. also, if you see a big store being built such as wal mart or home depot or lowes or ace or any other big retail store, go there. if you get there around the time they are installing tile then you are in luck. go there with a van or truck late at night. go to one of the doors and go in. once inside look for tile or other stuff. if you find tile there should be around 600-800 boxes of it. load it up as fast as you can. the tile depending on what kind it is will sell retail for around 20$ a box. take a dolly if you have to. once you get around 100 boxes get the hell out of there. go somewhere where you can see what kind it is. mark down all the information off the boxes such as serial #, place of purchase, and all that other shit thats on there. go to home depot and see if they have the same kind of tile. i almost garuntee you they will have it if the store you stole it from was ace hardware. if they do have it take the tile in a get a gift card. it should be around 1,500$. if you dont want the gift card sell the tile to diffrent people. note: you have to go when they are just starting to tile the store. most likely the store will not have doors on it. if the store does have doors go around and check them all. i garuntee you there is more than one door if not all of them unlocked. they will have diffrent stuff than tile too such as cement bags, electrical stuff, just about anything that will be in the store after it is done being built.

jonogt
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posted 06-23-2006 05:55

this is a pretty informative thread. lets keep it going. i want to cast brass and bronze stuff with my furnace thats almost done. besides plaques, wat are good things for this? Der Commissar
Regular quote: posted 06-23-2006 06:34

Originally posted by jonogt: this is a pretty informative thread. lets keep it going. i want to cast brass and bronze stuff with my furnace thats almost done. besides plaques, wat are good things for this?

Don't take commemerative plaques- it's like destroying your city's heritage. Carlton- Plywood? Most houses I know use gyprock, you know, that white stuff they use for walls? My room has plywood walls, but they stopped using that stuff sometime in the 70s SilentMind
Regular posted 06-23-2006 06:36

What if your city sucks? jonogt
Regular posted 06-23-2006 07:07

ya i wouldnt take plaques... MAYBE this one at this really lame place thats just fulla gays that hook up, but i'd much rather find non sentimentle stuff.

carltonbcool
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posted 06-23-2006 22:32

quote:

Originally posted by Der Commissar: Don't take commemerative plaques- it's like destroying your city's heritage. Carlton- Plywood? Most houses I know use gyprock, you know, that white stuff they use for walls? My room has plywood walls, but they stopped using that stuff sometime in the 70s

they use plywood on the exterior of the house then they put bricks over it. they have the 2x4 house frame then they put the plywood or particle board over the 2x4 frame. then over the plywood/particle board they put a plastic sheeting then over the plastic sheeting they put bricks or siding. here is a picture of a house covered on plywood: http://www.micamountain.com/sandpoint/images/pops/plywood.jpg [This message has been edited by carltonbcool (edited 06-23-2006).]

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Shoplifting: Tom Hanks Style

Xurich
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posted 06-22-2006 22:23

WHAT YOU NEED: 1) Some kind of jacket, preferabbly zip-less. A hoodie maybe? Make sure it is loose, but not ridiculously huge as this will arouse suspicion. 2) A prosthetic (fake) hand (a right hand if you are right-handed, left if left-handed). 3) A pair of trousers. Sew large pockets into the inside of the trousers if you can, although this isn's absolutely neccesary. Depends on what you are lifting. (maybe you could even line these secret pockets with foil, magic-bag style) 4) A small amount of confidence. Try to visit the shop you are planning on lifting from a couple of times before you go through with this, make mental notes on security, cameras, and blindspots. Know exactly where the item you want to lift is located inside the shop. HOW TO DO IT: 1) Glue the prosthetic hand to the inside of the cuff of the sleeve of the jacket. 2) Put the jacket or hoodie on, but don't put your arm into the sleeve which has the fake hand attatched to it. Leave your free arm concealed underneath the jacket. 3) Go into the shop which has the desirable item. 4) Discreetly slide your hidden hand out from underneath your jacket, grab the item, stuff it down your trousers, or into the inner-pocket of the jacket (if it has one). 5) Leave the shop 6) Enjoy your new 'purchases' This way of shoplifting works especially well with books, trust me! I got the idea of this scam from a trashy hollywood news site with an article about

Tom Hanks' confession that he used to shoplift when he was teenager. "Tom Hanks has confessed he used to shoplift as a child. The Oscar-winning actor has admitted he used to take his arms out of his jacket sleeves while walking around the shops and sneakily steal books and cakes with his free hands." Books definitly, I don't know about cakes as I haven't tried this, plus I have no desire to lift cakes viz7bl
Regular posted 06-22-2006 22:30

Lol good idea, I wonder if anyone has created magic pants? Da Black Ice
Regular posted 06-22-2006 22:52

Isn't it noticeable when you can see the sleeve flat and flapping all over the place? Poppeseed
Regular quote: posted 06-22-2006 22:55

Originally posted by Da Black Ice: Isn't it noticeable when you can see the sleeve flat and flapping all over the place?

I wondered that too, then thought that maybe the fake hand was more of a fake arm, that went up high enough that would make it look more real. Remedios TB
Regular posted 06-23-2006 01:48

Dude. If you can make it look just right (I'm thinking winter is best cause you can wear gloves inconspicuously) this is fucking GENIOUS. I never shoplift but I might actually try this, thanks. MGJ2
Regular posted 06-23-2006 02:19

haha im not sure if this would work, but even if it is just a hand you could stuff the sleeve with newspaper or somethingand sew the arm to the side a few inches below the armpit. this would stop the flapping. but im not gnna be the one to test this lol

phade
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posted 06-23-2006 02:27

Yeah and then someone you know comes up to you and wants to shake your hand. kmartcop88
Regular posted 06-23-2006 02:39

Easy way if you ski/snowboard: You already have a jacket on, but now instead of a fancy prosthetic hand just clip or tape a glove to the cuff. Everything else works the same way and if you want a little "support" in the fake arm to make it look more real, an avalanche shovel shaft or rolled up newspaper works well. Tech_AceSpades
Regular quote: posted 06-23-2006 02:41

Originally posted by phade: Yeah and then someone you know comes up to you and wants to shake your hand.

put out ur other hand and say ur other hand is injured Remedios TB
Regular quote: posted 06-23-2006 04:01

Originally posted by phade: Yeah and then someone you know comes up to you and wants to shake your hand.

Only make one hand fake. You can shoplift with one hand right? If you had an arm sling for some reason, you could make THAT the fake arm. Then people won't expect you to be able to move it anyway.

stealth agent
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posted 06-23-2006 05:17

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Originally posted by Xurich: "Tom Hanks has confessed he used to shoplift as a child....... walking around the shops and sneakily steal.... cakes with his free hands."

Wtf?

ShoplifterCatcher
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posted 06-23-2006 08:48

quote:

Originally posted by Xurich: WHAT YOU NEED: 1) Some kind of jacket, preferabbly zip-less. A hoodie maybe? Make sure it is loose, but not ridiculously huge as this will arouse suspicion. 2) A prosthetic (fake) hand (a right hand if you are righthanded, left if left-handed). 3) A pair of trousers. Sew large pockets into the inside of the trousers if you can, although this isn's absolutely neccesary. Depends on what you are lifting. (maybe you could even line these secret pockets with foil, magic-bag style) 4) A small amount of confidence. Try to visit the shop you are planning on lifting from a couple of times before you go through with this, make mental notes on security, cameras, and blindspots. Know exactly where the item you want to lift is located inside the shop. HOW TO DO IT: 1) Glue the prosthetic hand to the inside of the cuff of the sleeve of the jacket. 2) Put the jacket or hoodie on, but don't put your arm into the sleeve which has the fake hand attatched to it. Leave your free arm concealed underneath the jacket. 3) Go into the shop which has the desirable item. 4) Discreetly slide your hidden hand out from underneath your jacket, grab the item, stuff it down your trousers, or into the inner-pocket of the jacket (if it has one). 5) Leave the shop 6) Enjoy your new 'purchases' This way of shoplifting works especially well with books, trust

me! I got the idea of this scam from a trashy hollywood news site with an article about Tom Hanks' confession that he used to shoplift when he was teenager. "Tom Hanks has confessed he used to shoplift as a child. The Oscar-winning actor has admitted he used to take his arms out of his jacket sleeves while walking around the shops and sneakily steal books and cakes with his free hands." Books definitly, I don't know about cakes as I haven't tried this, plus I have no desire to lift cakes

Yeah, when winter comes. Are all of you fuckin' Canadians? Sweat jackets in the middle of the summer? Alaska maybe. And your prosthetic hand needs a tan, to match the rest of your white-trashed ass!

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If you really MUST try to get free fast food...

CmereYou
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posted 06-25-2006 14:34

First, you need one of the little cards. We've all seen them. I got one as a prize as a little kid for winning a reading competition and never used it. They are business card sized and have 'free / complimentary hamburger / sandwich / drink' printed on them. Get one. I shouldn't have to get into how. Now scan it. Modify if required. Pick the automated (You want the lowest chance for hassle as possible) online business card printing service of your choice. Order a few thousand and pay around fifty bucks. Congratulations. [This message has been edited by CmereYou (edited 06-25-2006).] chainy
Regular posted 06-26-2006 02:45

Fast food workers are easy to confuse, and therefore easy to get free food from. A line like "I didn't get my drink/hash brown/chicken sandwich/fries" goes a long way. I promise 9/10 times or more you'll get what you want.

Millixion
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posted 06-26-2006 02:48

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Originally posted by CmereYou: First, you need one of the little cards.

I believe the word you're looking for is "coupon". CmereYou
Regular posted 06-26-2006 05:02

It could be called a coupon but because it's on cardstock and is usually a "complimentary meal" with no discount, pennies or percent off, etc, I don't call it a coupon. EtherFreak
Regular posted 06-26-2006 07:07

just go for the discount. it works… Just have a similar recept (SP?) in your hand, when you walk up to the counter, and say my (bla) was not in my bag…

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gym locker scam

john b
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posted 06-15-2006 02:39

here's an idea! go to your local sports centre or gym. go into changing rooms put coin into locker lock up and leave. make copy of the key go back unlock locker and leave. go back when not to busy and when locker is being used, use your copy and help yourself to wallet, lap, carkeys etc. or if your really clever just copy cc info and put everything back as it was and the guy aint going to know you are using his card till the end of the month. also this will mean nothing is reported and keep it good for the long game, it could be months before they catch on [This message has been edited by john b (edited 06-15-2006).] Der Commissar
Regular posted 06-15-2006 03:48

Good idea. I've thought about doing this except with rental houses (you get they give you the keys and you can inspect the place by yourself) But most locker places use key cards these days, I think. I've been trying to figure out an easy way to get cc no's and this may be it if I can find a place that still uses keys.

john b
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posted 06-15-2006 08:01

if you get card reader you may be able to clone the cards.might be worth posting in the hacking section. could be easier than trying to make a copy key, it takes practice. i was using a wax mould but it is easy to fuck up. if anyone has any ideas post them. Unseeen
Regular posted 06-15-2006 08:50

Well, wouldn't some gym's locker keys or whatever have "DO NOT COPY" or something on them? john b
Regular quote: posted 06-15-2006 09:00

Originally posted by unseem: Well, wouldn't some gym's locker keys or whatever have "DO NOT COPY" or something on them?

quote:

Originally posted by john b: could be easier than trying to make a copy key, it takes practice. i was using a wax mould but it is easy to fuck up. if anyone has any ideas post them.

you make a copy yourself DIY style. takes practice to get it right though. i was using a wax mould and filling with chemical metal. worked sometime and not others. if anyone knows where to get key cutting equip your laughing. [This message has been edited by john b (edited 06-15-2006).]

ShadyBusiness00
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posted 06-15-2006 13:41

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Originally posted by john b: you make a copy yourself DIY style. takes practice to get it right though. i was using a wax mould and filling with chemical metal. worked sometime and not others.

What is DIY? How do you turn the mold into an acutal key though? sam_fisher
Regular posted 06-15-2006 17:27

fuck keys, use shims. bluefox
Regular posted 06-15-2006 17:49

DIY= do it yourself. I kinda doubt this could work in the way you imagined it. Every gym requires membership, and with membership you theoretically get your locker key. When you quit the gym, you hand your key back. Even IF you made a copy of the key via whatever means, just how are you going to get back into the gym to use it? Breaking in is pointless, you might as well bust open the lockers if you do that. It also just isnt worth paying for a NEW membership just to get axcess to your old locker (via your copied key) that some new member puts his running shoes and cell phone in. That being said, there is SOME merit to this scam. A few days ago I made a post about beach community/house scams...this could fit well there. Just copy your beach house key and return when the house is not occupied for a week. L8r Run Screaming
Regular posted 06-15-2006 18:12

Most people in my gym don't lock their lockers at all.

viz7bl
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posted 06-15-2006 18:45

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Originally posted by Run Screaming: Most people in my gym don't lock their lockers at all.

Same here because most people in my town, when they go to the gym, don't bring their cell phones or laptops as the OP was getting at. When I go to the gym, I have my wallet and keys in a small bag that I just keep on my back while running and whatnot. ownanarchy
Regular quote: posted 06-15-2006 20:29

Originally posted by Run Screaming: Most people in my gym don't lock their lockers at all.

Yeah. I stole from lockers all the time while I was at school when everyone was in gym. They are too lazy to use their combo locks because they want to be the first out of there. Hell, half the time, everyone left their clothes on the ground whith wallets, Ipods/mp3, ect, in them. Fucking morons. I locked my shit up, because I don't want karma to get me again. john b
Regular posted 06-15-2006 21:36

in the UK nearly every public swimming pool and sports centres has the key lockers where you put in a pound coin and then you can lock the door, take the key with you, and then unlock when you come back, you then get your money back. you often get businessmen and proffesional types using these facilities, so they use the lockers for phones, laptops, wallets and anything else that they would'nt want to leave in their car. i presumed that it would be the same sort of set-up in the states.

CrimeSceneInstigator
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posted 06-15-2006 21:40

These sound like the lock-ups in airports/bus stations/train stations. The keys have the little orange plastic bit on them. Good idea, you can get key cuttng mchines but they are pricey:http://www.kellysearch.com/qz-product-52635.html [This message has been edited by CrimeSceneInstigator (edited 06-15-2006).] viz7bl
Regular posted 06-15-2006 21:42

Psh, here in the states (for the most part of what I've seen) everyone is trying to make a buck. Most of the lockers I see you pay a quarter to use the locker and the key, and when you return the key, that's it, no quarter back. If it were like it is in the UK, I'd go through every locker with all the keys, pay someone a few $100 to make copies (I actually have someone who works with locksmithing who'd do it) and voila, I'd make a fortune. You lucky british chaps have it so good, other than your country roads smelling much of sheep dung (misses England...) john b
Regular posted 06-15-2006 21:47

LOL phade
Regular quote: posted 06-15-2006 21:49

Originally posted by ShadyBusiness00: What is DIY? How do you turn the mold into an acutal key though?

You pour metal that has been melted into the mold.

john b
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posted 06-15-2006 21:59

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Originally posted by Der Commissar: But most locker places use key cards these days, I think.

are these anything like the cards used on hotel room doors. im sure it must be possible to clone these cards. they have the magnetic strip just like a credit card. if so then this scam could be applied to hotel rooms also, rent room for one night and then you have unlimited access from then on. soon as the next person goes in you can help yourself, it would probably be put down to staff theft. even better! john b
Regular quote: posted 06-15-2006 22:02

Originally posted by phade: You pour metal that has been melted into the mold.

try chemical metal. you must have it in the states, it is used for filling dents in car body repair, comes in a tube, mix with hardener and in about two minutes its set hard like metal.

phade
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posted 06-15-2006 22:11

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Originally posted by john b: try chemical metal. you must have it in the states, it is used for filling dents in car body repair, comes in a tube, mix with hardener and in about two minutes its set hard like metal.

Never heard of it so I was thinking along the lines of this http://en.wikipedia. org/wiki/Field%27s_metal but the chemical metal might work to I don't know because I'm not familliar with it.

Phrenks
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posted 06-15-2006 22:22

The thing is, why bother to make a key to get into someone's locker when you can just find a combination lock and crack it? Especially if it's Masterlock, there are a lot of web pages out there that can tell you how to get in them. john b
Regular quote: posted 06-15-2006 22:28

Originally posted by phade: Never heard of it so I was thinking along the lines of this [URL=http: //en.wikip edia.org/w iki/Field% 27s_metal] http://en. wikipedia. org/wiki/F ield%27s_metal[/URL] but the chemical metal might work to I don't know because I'm not familliar with it.

check this: http ://www.wes tern-marin e.com/page 77.htm or: http:/ /marinesto re.co.uk/p age/mrst/C TGY/plasti c-padding- products-i sopon/ [This message has been edited by john b (edited 06-15-2006).] john b
Regular quote: posted 06-15-2006 23:23

Originally posted by phade: Never heard of it so I was thinking along the lines of this [URL=http: //en.wikip edia.org/w iki/Field% 27s_metal] http://en. wikipedia. org/wiki/F ield%27s_metal[/URL] but the chemical metal might work to I don't know because I'm not familliar with it.

Unseeen
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posted 06-15-2006 23:23

quote:

Originally posted by john b: you make a copy yourself DIY style. takes practice to get it right though. i was using a wax mould and filling with chemical metal. worked sometime and not others. if anyone knows where to get key cutting equip your laughing.

Hmm. I don't know... I don't think it would be worth the trouble though... Der Commissar
Regular quote: posted 06-16-2006 05:23

Originally posted by john b: are these anything like the cards used on hotel room doors. im sure it must be possible to clone these cards. they have the magnetic strip just like a credit card. if so then this scam could be applied to hotel rooms also, rent room for one night and then you have unlimited access from then on. soon as the next person goes in you can help yourself, it would probably be put down to staff theft. even better!

Shit, I don't know- but, yeah, I was thinking about hotels and airports re the card thing- I've never been to a gym in my life lol. But I'll put the card copying scam on the list of things to think about doing but most likely never do.

john b
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posted 06-16-2006 11:04

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Originally posted by viz7bl: Psh, here in the states (for the most part of what I've seen) everyone is trying to make a buck. Most of the lockers I see you pay a quarter to use the locker and the key, and when you return the key, that's it, no quarter back. If it were like it is in the UK, I'd go through every locker

with all the keys, pay someone a few $100 to make copies (I actually have someone who works with locksmithing who'd do it) and voila, I'd make a fortune. You lucky british chaps have it so good, other than your country roads smelling much of sheep dung (misses England...)

surely a quarter is worth paying out if your going to make $500 + listen everyone i was doing this a few years ago. it works. its just hard to make the key properly. if you can get it right your laughing, but dont go and rinse the same place to much or they will be onto you. better to do one locker 2 or 3 times move on to another somewhere else but keep the key for 6 - 10 months and it could be good again. this is definetly one of those scams where getting greedy/lazy will fuck you up. plus these types of lockers are not just in sports centres you can find them in all sorts of places. im sure there must be plenty even in the states. [This message has been edited by john b (edited 06-16-2006).] john b
Regular posted 06-16-2006 18:14

[This message has been edited by john b (edited 06-16-2006).] N3oc0N
Regular posted 06-16-2006 19:32

How can I reach you John? Its definately worth your time. n3oc0n at yahoo dot com viz7bl
Regular quote: posted 06-16-2006 19:42

Originally posted by N3oc0N: How can I reach you John? Its definately worth your time. n3oc0n at yahoo dot com

Why do you need to reach him, I know it's likely just paranoia, but none the

less I smell bacon sizling on the stove. Needs attending to. N3oc0N
Regular quote: posted 06-16-2006 19:53

Originally posted by viz7bl: Why do you need to reach him, I know it\'s likely just paranoia, but none the less I smell bacon sizling on the stove. Needs attending to.

Dude, You might wanna stop projecting yourself. viz7bl
Regular quote: posted 06-16-2006 19:58

Profile for N3oc0N Search: All posts by this registered user. Date Registered: 06-16-2006 Status: Regular Total Posts: 3 Current Email: Not available. Homepage: http Occupation: Finance Location: U.S.A Interests: People

It looked like you made your account specificly to ask him how you can contact him after he claims to have done something illegal. In my book, that warrants much suspicion. Pigs are getting more stupid day after day if you happen to be one. john b
Regular posted 06-16-2006 20:03

n3oc0n, my e-mail address is in your inbox

N3oc0N
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posted 06-16-2006 20:10

quote:

Originally posted by viz7bl: It looked like you made your account specificly to ask him how you can contact him after he claims to have done something illegal. In my book, that warrants much suspicion. Pigs are getting more stupid day after day if you happen to be one.

Dude, what is it with you. I\'m not looking for an argument, just help on what i now have. He seems to know what hes talking about.

handgernade14
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posted 06-16-2006 20:41

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Originally posted by Unseeen: Well, wouldn't some gym's locker keys or whatever have "DO NOT COPY" or something on them?

locksmith's sometimes even leave "DO NOT COPY" on the new keys for you

Sunshine
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posted 06-16-2006 21:34

Put the key in clay and mold it, then pour in superglue or something along those lines... Then pull apart the clay, and bingo! Key. Just be gentle when you turn it as it could break. CrimeSceneInstigator
Regular posted 06-17-2006 16:46

john b
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posted 06-17-2006 22:55

N3oc0N, sent you mail. get back when u can N3oc0N
Regular posted 06-17-2006 22:59

got it itsAllHypothetical
Regular posted 06-18-2006 02:35

Swim says People always use the locker rooms at the YMCA BobDude
Regular posted 06-18-2006 03:19

Read this for important key-mold informatoion Easiest way to copy keys? Make them yourself. Go to your closest K-Mart, find their key cutter, and write down the model number. Go online, find the PDF, and read the manual. You now know how to copy keys. Go back to K-Mart, make sure no ones looking, and copy it. Even pay for the key if it will make you feel better about yourself. This is a good idea, and it works. They usually won't stop you if they see you know what your doing. -ORGrind off where it says 'Do not copy", or put a oval shaped hole where it used to be =) ~BobDude CrimeSceneInstigator
Regular posted 06-18-2006 18:38

i got one of the keys from the greyhound bus station parcel lockers. i tried to copy it but i made it to thick to go in. any suggestions? john b
Regular posted 06-19-2006 09:08

just keep trying. practice will make perfect.

Junkyard Snail Bopper
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posted 06-19-2006 09:14

quote:

Originally posted by Unseeen: Well, wouldn't some gym's locker keys or whatever have "DO NOT COPY" or something on them?

it wouldn't be impossible to find a friend with friends or such that works at a hardware store or somewhere that could make a copy john b
Regular posted 06-21-2006 21:14

PsYcHO
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posted 06-21-2006 21:30

That sounds like a good scam to me, but youd need a while to get the key making process right. Once you had it tho..... john b
Regular posted 06-24-2006 18:05

john b
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posted 06-25-2006 18:35

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Originally posted by PsYcHO: That sounds like a good scam to me, but youd need a while to get the key making process right. Once you had it tho.....

if you know a dodgy keycutter you've got it made. easy make 3-4 hundred pound a day(6-8 hundred us$)

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Blockbuster movies/games for 5 bucks

MR.Kitty55
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posted 06-27-2006 15:53

Ive actually seen people do this... Go down to your local blockbluster rent a new game or movie for 5 bucks or whtever it is then instead of returning it replace it with a shitty movie or game that you dont want any more... There are to many movies/games being filtered in to notice and if they do just tell them you put the wrong game/movie in the box and apologize Works perfectly with games like Madden that have a new game every year. For example i knew someone who instead of buying Madden 2006 for 50 bucks rented it and replaced it with Madden 05 and kept the 06 copy and never had a problem SilentMind
Regular posted 06-27-2006 17:36

Except the blockbuster games have blockbuster stickers all over the discs. Spam Man Sam
Regular posted 06-27-2006 18:30

Thats only a problem if you want to resell the game. whocares123
Regular quote: posted 06-28-2006 01:27

Originally posted by Spam Man Sam: Thats only a problem if you want to resell the game.

no, because then the game you gave back doesn't have a blockbuster sticker. TroyMcClure
Regular posted 06-28-2006 04:51

paz0ned Silhouette
Regular posted 06-28-2006 09:14

what stops him from making new stickers? get sticker paper for printer, scan disk, print, and cut out the bit(s) you need.

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Simple method to get a group of people into the movies for free

The_Lurker
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posted 06-25-2006 00:12

This might not work in some theaters. Have two somewhat related looking people go to the front of the movie theater. The older person tells the man at the door, "My dad is in (insert movie you want to see) and I need to get my credit card (or some cash) from him so I can buy gas. I'm gonna have my little brother/sister wait here for me ok?". The door man most likely won't see anything wrong and he'll let them right in seeing how they have to come back for their "sibling". The person inside goes to the desired theater and props open the back door letting the group in then walks back out with the credit card (which he already had) in his hand (cash works too). He thanks the doorman and walks to the back with his "sibling" to be let in by the group. [This message has been edited by The_Lurker (edited 06-25-2006).] WhyteWydow
Regular posted 06-25-2006 00:15

Just say you wanna go play some games that are beyond that ever-restricting rope, and they'll just be like "okay". Works great on a busy night cause then they won't be able to keep track of who went in or not, and you get a free movie. Besides, the ticket takers are usually old fucks who wouldn't remember you anyway. ~Whyte 10 elevenths
Regular posted 06-25-2006 00:19

Where I live you can almost always just walk in and nobody will challenge you. Just do it while things are a tad busy, make for the bathroom or whatever. Piece of cake. shorelinetrance
Regular posted 06-25-2006 00:19

5 mins after the movie starts walk by therope, the one that stops you from getting in, go under it. [This message has been edited by shorelinetrance (edited 06-25-2006).]

Speedy8
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posted 06-25-2006 00:27

quote:

Originally posted by WhyteWydow: ever-restricting rope ~Whyte

ahahahh dude that made me laugh my ass off cobra47
Regular posted 06-25-2006 01:35

lollerskates If you're in a group of fifteen people, buy five tickets. Five people go up, all give their ticket stubs to one person. He goes out, gives the spare ticket stubs to 4 more people and they come up. Repeat process, everyone gets in for 1/3 of the price. BingBing925
Regular posted 06-26-2006 05:02

Or if your at an IMAX or something, you could just buy one ticket, person goes in, opens door in the back, and there you go ark_gamer
Regular posted 06-26-2006 05:16

Can you really just open the door and let people in? crackwhore24
Regular posted 06-26-2006 05:31

*Lurks around in thread* Oh wait thats your job!

streetjusticeforall
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posted 06-26-2006 05:40

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Originally posted by ark_gamer: Can you really just open the door and let people in?

Yes. Unless it is either over filled, or very few seats sold, they will not catch you. If they do just say you chucked your ticket. Worse thing that happens if they check the camera and you say maybe your camera fucked up cuz I bought a ticket asshole, and you storm off. kmartcop88
Regular quote: posted 06-26-2006 06:00

Originally posted by streetjusticeforall: Worse thing that happens if they check the camera and you say maybe your camera fucked up cuz I bought a ticket asshole, and you storm off.

Or pretend to be retarded.

BingBing925
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posted 06-26-2006 07:07

you can open the doors regardless. Just make sure a worker that looks like a snitch isnt around. the movies in my city, you can enter by urself, go down the hall, open the double exit doors and let them in. I wouldnt do it at like a duplex or anything with only 2 screens.

black_light
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posted 06-26-2006 20:55

sometimes they wont even have people to take your ticket at my theater so ill go out to eat dinner after the movie is over. once dinner is done i go to the customer service desk and say i ordered these tickets in advnace and something came up id like a refund, no problemo. stupid fuckers deserve it... kenton
Regular posted 06-28-2006 02:05

An easier method is have two people buy tickes. They both go in the theatre but one leaves and brings both the stubs. That person gives the "already in theater" persons stub to another person. And then u reapeat many a time... streetjusticeforall
Regular quote: posted 06-28-2006 03:19

Originally posted by kenton: An easier method is have two people buy tickes. They both go in the theatre but one leaves and brings both the stubs. That person gives the "already in theater" persons stub to another person. And then u reapeat many a time...

Every theater I have ever been to rips the ticket a bit or swipes it with a felt marker for that very reason.

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Very easy way to score clothes/wallets.

darkjedi
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posted 06-24-2006 09:29

Locker rooms. Places like the YMCA, or anything of the sort, most people don't bother locking the lockers. I can't count the time I open a locker to put my shit in and find a guys full set of clothing and wallet, and once cell phone and iPod. Just wait to be the only one in there, take it and walk off.

tunamelt
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posted 06-24-2006 09:32

or, at pools like the one near my house, all the lockers have the same keys. so buy one for a quarter, profit a hundred or so. wash, rinse and repeat. joecool89
Regular posted 06-24-2006 09:42

how do you think the person your stealing it from feels? darkjedi
Regular posted 06-24-2006 09:50

I never steal. I leave them notes in their wallets telling them to buy a lock next time. john b
Regular posted 06-24-2006 18:03

that's pretty much my idea. http://www.totse.com/bbs/Forum7/HTML/020608.html phade
Regular quote: posted 06-24-2006 18:17

Originally posted by joecool89: how do you think the person your stealing it from feels?

More importantly, who the fuck cares? r2
Regular quote: posted 06-24-2006 18:20

Originally posted by joecool89: how do you think the person your stealing it from feels?

Owned.

john b
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posted 06-24-2006 22:26

quote:

Originally posted by joecool89: how do you think the person your stealing it from feels?

they should fucking well lock their lockers then. that is why they have locks on. i have no sympathy for people who make stealing their shit so easy!

emericaskater
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posted 06-24-2006 23:02

quote:

Originally posted by joecool89: how do you think the person your stealing it from feels?

I think of it like a lesson learned... Lock your fucking locker next time and I won't steal it! emericaskater
Regular posted 06-24-2006 23:35

OMG my town pool!!!! but most normal people bring them in bags and leave them next to their tables in crowded areas so someone is bound to see... Masta Thief
Regular posted 06-25-2006 02:05

wow! why did you feel the need to tell experianced shoplifters n' pickpockets this? Criminal Money
Regular posted 06-25-2006 17:59

I feel like this Thread is a waste of space... By the way, is The Shady Dealer still in BI? He was still here before i left...

Run Screaming
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posted 06-25-2006 18:00

No video cameras either. Needsahug
Regular quote: posted 06-25-2006 18:17

Originally posted by joecool89: how do you think the person your stealing it from feels?

Usually, whenever I leave stuff in an open locker to be stolen, I hide nearby with a camera or a camcorder and catch the thief in action. Then, I do little things to make him feel bad. Scratch his car, steal his mail, put thumbtacks into his shoes and so on. Then, I deliver the evidence to his parents and the police. I feel happy, because I know I'm doing the good, the just, the right thing and making this world a better place to live in for all of us real people who don't need to steal. Nah, just kidding. [This message has been edited by Needsahug (edited 06-25-2006).] john b
Regular posted 06-25-2006 18:51

i think my idea is better http://www.totse.com/bbs/Forum7/HTML/020608.html yours is just obvious and just pure chance Don Quixote
Regular quote: posted 06-25-2006 18:55

Originally posted by joecool89: how do you think the person your stealing it from feels?

Welcome to BI, please check your morales at the door.

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Quick Video Game Scam.

a1b2c3d4c5d6e
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posted 06-23-2006 08:32

This actually happened to my friend and I gave whoever did it plenty of kudos. (Although my friend was very angry, I told him. Wouldn't you do it?, and it's not that much effort to take it back is it?) Well it was funny. My friend bought a game. For about 3 days he kept wondering why it didn't work. He then looked at the disc and it was purple. I'm sure you're already catching on. Well, What happened was. He/She had a label maker. He/She scanned the disc, and replaced the actual soul caliber 3 with a blank CD. LOL! Returned the game, and went home with a brand new copy of soul caliber .

Your return reason can just be that "It doesn't work." So they can't really blame you for a damn thing. So try it out if you please. BTW shoplifter catcher, since you don't work at the CSM desk. There's no way you can stop people from doing this. So you lose. Thx for playing. [This message has been edited by a1b2c3d4c5d6e (edited 06-23-2006).] CBUM
Regular posted 06-23-2006 09:22

haha! good idea! rapydfyre
Regular posted 06-24-2006 02:14

Not bad, but all you end up with is an extra disc. I guess you could eBay it... cegha
Regular posted 06-24-2006 02:48

you can't return opened games for this reason. You could make a copy or do this. You would have to re-shrinkwrap the game somehow.

Ethical Hitman
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posted 06-24-2006 03:11

Even though you can't return opened games or DVD's for cash, you can return them for a new copy of the product if you say it is defective. Then, return the new one for cash. Works, even if the workers complain, they can't do anything about it since it is company policy. phade
Regular quote: posted 06-24-2006 03:12

Originally posted by Ethical Hitman: Even though you can't return opened games or DVD's for cash, you can return them for a new copy of the product if you say it is defective. Then, return the new one for cash. Works, even if the workers complain, they can't do anything about it since it is company policy.

I don't know about that... Some stores in my area have no return policies for DVD/ CDs. Soviet_Ninja
Regular posted 06-24-2006 03:16

Just do the same thing with a rented game except scratch up the blank because they tend to look at it when you return it sometimes, you can possibly find the label on the net. Ethical Hitman
Regular posted 06-24-2006 03:22

Well I read about it in an online article, and I know for a fact that it would work in my area. Some new DVD-Rs don't even look purple. They just are a slightly off-shade of the normal. the racial janitor
Regular posted 06-24-2006 03:36

you could rent a game and do the same thing, right? Ethical Hitman
Regular posted 06-24-2006 04:35

But with most rental stores, you require a credit card to register. Therefore, they can track your number, find your name, and make you pay for a whole new game. At a store, you can pay with cash.

0therean
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posted 06-24-2006 04:59

Nice, I like this one. Gotta get me a label maker. cegha
Regular quote: posted 06-24-2006 05:14

Originally posted by 0therean: Nice, I like this one. Gotta get me a label maker.

Wally world has a starter kit thing from "fellos" that has like 20 gloss labels, and 20 paper labels, and a CD stomper. If you get really hardcore into this scam, you could get a lightscribe CD writer where it actually prints the label DIRECTLY onto the disk, to make it look even more real. WhyteWydow
Regular posted 06-24-2006 05:41

Buy it from place where used games are "Guarenteed to Work!" or something like that. Then they have to refund/replace it. Very clever idea though. ~Whyte shorelinetrance
Regular posted 06-25-2006 00:15

I pawned all my video games, they just open up the case, see if the game is inside, so if you can make a label that looks legit, many of them on the web cd labeler apps and such, just pawn the games, get the money and leave. TroyMcClure
Regular posted 06-25-2006 01:43

OR instead of using a blank cd that you paid for, use a free aol cd. it's the same shade as a regular game and it's better than cheap, it's free. Gatman
Regular posted 06-25-2006 02:58

www.cdcovers.cc Great place for labels, I do this with movies.

cegha
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posted 06-25-2006 03:16

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Originally posted by TroyMcClure: OR instead of using a blank cd that you paid for, use a free aol cd. it's the same shade as a regular game and it's better than cheap, it's free.

Dood that is perfect, there the SAME exact shade as a game, and you could just stick a label over it. Genecks
Regular posted 06-25-2006 04:43

Gotta love the new kids with the new toys. - Kamisama Remedios TB
Regular quote: posted 06-26-2006 03:59

Originally posted by TroyMcClure: OR instead of using a blank cd that you paid for, use a free aol cd. it's the same shade as a regular game and it's better than cheap, it's free.

Lmao this is great, I can just see some kid buying a new CD/DVD and putting it in his computer and having AOL come up instead Millixion
Regular posted 06-26-2006 04:38

First of all, this isn't "Quick". Second, what kind of label maker does your friend have? Personally, I can spot a crappy printed out label that was peeled off a sheet and stuck on a disk a mile away. It's blindingly obvious if you just run your thumb across the surface of the label. It's a good idea in theory, but seems like it would be kind of hit or miss to pull off.

a1b2c3d4c5d6e
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posted 06-26-2006 08:48

quote:

Originally posted by Millixion: First of all, this isn't "Quick". Second, what kind of label maker does your friend have? Personally, I can spot a crappy printed out label that was peeled off a sheet and stuck on a disk a mile away. It's blindingly obvious if you just run your thumb across the surface of the label. It's a good idea in theory, but seems like it would be kind of hit or miss to pull off.

Ppl at CSM desks usually aren't going to even touch the disk. They'll open it, see that it's the "game." And then give you your money. Could be a hit or miss. But it obviously worked because my friend was a victim of it. Can you think of one better? stonerdelasoul
Regular posted 06-26-2006 12:11

some places buy old 2nd hand cds (for a tenth of their value), so get a load of blanks, copy over their labels and put them in the cases, so long as they look perfect you'll be laughing CaptainCrunch
Regular posted 06-26-2006 12:25

Hah, I got a lightscribe, im gunna try this at teh blockbuster Fate
Moderator posted 06-26-2006 12:54

What you need are silver topped blank disks. They're readily available for pennies if you buy online. Then you can simply buy transparent CD labels, which do a much better job of mimicing the silkscreened-on-bare-disk-surface look of most commercial CD's.

bud212002
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posted 06-26-2006 21:11

NFS Underground 2 was 2 disc. I installed it, and put it in a CD holder that held only one disc and returned it. I kept the disc that had to be in the CD drive to play!! They opened it and looked at it and did not catch it. A few weeks later I looked and it was back on the shelf, someone was pissed I bet when they bought it!!

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Dumpster diving with a purpose.

Wyrm
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posted 06-30-2006 04:38

Anyone here dive for Food not Bombs

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Want free shit? You got it!

carmine
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posted 06-08-2006 00:13

Call companies and tell them you bought their product but it was moldy, broken ect.... They will send you back a free coupon for another, which you can easily reproduce and distribute. An example.... 1 800 CLIFBAR me: Hi, I recently purchased a 24 pack of Cool Mint clif bars from the soand-so bike shop. Several of them were moldy. It said on the package to call this number, so..... ClifBarInc: Ok, what's your name and address please? me: 3 so and so rd, ect. ClifBarInc: Alrighty we'll send you a replacement right away, me: Thanks. bye. It helps is you act angry. Some numbers to call: 1800WRIGLEY 1800COCACOL 1800CLIFBAR find more! have fun!! KAR-MEIN

Still_born
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posted 06-08-2006 00:19

A freind of mine used to go to walmart and find the most exspensive medicines they had otc, then he would write down the serial off of the barcode of the package and call the company and tell them the medicine was missing somthing,he would tell them the serial and they would send him coupons in the mail,he would return those to walmart for gift certificates. He said he made 200 bucks doing this at two walmarts and used the certificates to buy xbox360 games. [This message has been edited by Still_born (edited 06-08-2006).] total mayhem
Regular posted 06-08-2006 00:28

Haha, the simplest scams are the most effective! Drsimmons
Regular posted 06-08-2006 02:15

PIzza Hut has a money back gurantee. If you call the number on the box and say its shitty they give you a gift certificate. Millixion
Regular posted 06-08-2006 02:30

+1 Awesome idea. I think everyone should post products to try this on. kmartcop88
Regular posted 06-08-2006 02:39

Awesome, so now people can stop posting "how do i make $100 fast without stealing" I'm doing this all summer, this is pure gold. ICantThinkOfAnythingNow
Regular posted 06-08-2006 02:57

Copy down the codes for those Visa Cards at Grocery Stores and wait a few weeks for someone to buy it and get it activated.

skidmeister927
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posted 06-08-2006 03:26

^ that is the best one yet EDIT- CLIFBAR.COM YOU GUYS ARE GENIOUS [This message has been edited by skidmeister927 (edited 06-08-2006).] skidmeister927
Regular posted 06-08-2006 06:06

Got some more numbers... btw all the ones with the * in front of them are fishing companies. 1800-587-6937 Powerbar-self explanatory 1800-468-1714 Hersheys-Candy 1800-627-7852 M&M's Mars-more candy 1877-289-2376 Aeropostale-Jeans 1800-653-6289then 4Old Navy-Gives gift cards 1866-kma-rt4u K-Mart-Lotsa shit 1800-440-0680 Target-ditto 1800-505-3837 Walmart-"" 1800-642-7676 Microsoft-get serial # in store and tell them it doznt work 1800-323-0768 BalanceBar-surprisngly good 1800-588-9030 *Zebco 1800-334-9105 *Shakespeare 1800-466-5862 *Okuma 1877-577-0600 *Shimano 1877-502-5696 *Johnson Hope this helps Sweep
Regular posted 06-08-2006 07:13

Get a can of coke, call the number and say "Hey I don't mean to be a bother, but I bought this soda out of a vending machine, and it was half full. I just thought I'd let you know, to maybe have your drivers check it out, because there was soda ALL over the can, no telling how many other cans were open." They LOVE it when you point shit out like that. Sent me a fee coupon for 24 cokes dDIzzIEe
Regular posted 06-08-2006 07:58

http://tinyurl.com/mh8tz Hey carmine, drop me an email: [email protected]

viz7bl
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posted 06-08-2006 16:41

I was just going to note that this is archived AND a text file on totse. I do prefer the writing method as I doubt I would be able to hold a straight voice doing it on the phone, not to good with social engineering. damien445
Regular posted 06-09-2006 01:46

online is easiest, for the companies that support it. email them with your address, any serial numbers, your complaint, and tell them how you've loved thier product for so-and-so years, and you don't want to have to stop buying it. they gotta send you something. Millixion
Regular posted 06-10-2006 02:07

Which items could I complain about to target? Wouldn't they just refer me to the company that actually manufactures the product? Remedios TB
Regular posted 06-10-2006 13:04

How far do you think you could take this? Like, okay food is easy to get, and items like electronics they are going to want the reciept/item, but I'm thinking I could say, call in to a magazine place, say that I have subscribed to a magazine every year for x years, but this time I sent in the check and check was cashed but I never got the magazine, and get free magazine subscriptions? How far have you all taken this? Alternatively, instead of doing the "find receipt in parking lot, get item in store and take it to return desk for cash refund" thing, could you say, find a receipt for a PS2 or whatever, go buy a used/broken PS2 for cheap, send in the receipt + broken PS2 and say it broke and get a new PS2? Poppeseed
Regular posted 06-10-2006 15:17

I dont think the magazine would work, they would ask for you name and check to see if you already had a past subscription. What I've done is called 1-800-4MY-XBOX (I think) and said I would like to cancel my Xbox Live account for a reason like too many jerks online. They will normally offer to give you a free Live game or like 4 (or more/ less) months of free Live.

Remedios TB
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posted 06-10-2006 16:57

So you could say you had been buying the magazine awhile and finally decided to get a subscription.. that way you would still look like a "loyal customer" without having them check anything Generic Box Of Cookies
Regular posted 06-11-2006 02:44

I did that a couple weeks ago. Except the product I got was shitty. I got a Monster XXL and it was fucking terrible. I wrote them an email telling them how fucked up it was, and they sent me a letter telling me that they are gonna send me a gift. I don't know what it is yet. faithbanks
Regular posted 06-12-2006 01:57

This is called "Bitch Calling". I made a thread on this earlier...I'll have to look for it. I've gotten everything from free hair products to free food. Ah, good tymes! stonerdelasoul
Regular posted 06-12-2006 20:22

any english companies this scam can b done to?ay? NEM0
Regular posted 06-17-2006 06:17

Fucking great ideas, guys. Definetely gonna have to try some of these. I love TOTSE! jimbo121589
Regular posted 06-17-2006 20:29

Pretty smart. I'll expand. If it is food from a large organization that you want, then send them a professional looking letter. Don't act angry or anything, just say that when you opened the packaging there was a fly or something on the chips (or whatever it is) and give them a return adress. Normally, they will send you an entire box of the food. a1b2c3d4c5d6e
Regular posted 06-18-2006 00:55

+1 Awesome Thread.

Don Quixote
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posted 06-18-2006 01:36

Tried this this morning. I called the Coca-Cola contact listed on their website and said that I'd bought a coke that had been flat, but the seal wasn't broken. They asked if I still had the bottle and I said yes, but I'd tipped the rest out. They said that's fine, and that they're sending me a case of cans and not to bother sending in the bottle. Chimro
Regular quote: posted 06-22-2006 08:42

Originally posted by skidmeister927: 1800-587-6937 Powerbar-self explanatory

I called and said their powerbar was defective and short-circuted my computer and they just laughed at me. I guess this phone number doesn't work. Jack in the Closet
Regular posted 06-22-2006 10:00

I'd try this this if my parents wouldn't be so suspicious of a 24 pack of clif bars, unless they wanna get in on the action too. Clifford the Big Red Bong
Regular posted 06-22-2006 10:30

my cousins school had them do a class project on this once. they had to find a company they liked (my cousin chose those "tech-deck" people who made finger-boards) and complain to them about something in order to see what they could get for free. it worked aparently. ive bounced this idea around in my head for a while but i havent done it out of lack of interest. i have a few semi-important questions though.. first of all, say i got a coupon for a free bag of chips and copied it a few times. after the first time it was used, wouldnt the barcode tell the register that it was already used? also assume you got caught using a copied coupon. thats forgery, right? what kind of charges could you face?

Clifford the Big Red Bong
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posted 06-22-2006 10:35

i just had a good idea.. once you guys start getting coupons, scan them and post them here! we could make a huge acrhive of coupons for free shit. we may never need to buy food or soda again. think about it. throopguy21
Regular quote: posted 06-22-2006 14:33

Originally posted by Clifford the Big Red Bong: i just had a good idea.. once you guys start getting coupons, scan them and post them here! we could make a huge acrhive of coupons for free shit. we may never need to buy food or soda again. think about it.

genius

stick person
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posted 06-22-2006 16:12

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Originally posted by ICantThinkOfAnythingNow: Copy down the codes for those Visa Cards at Grocery Stores and wait a few weeks for someone to buy it and get it activated.

well you would have to buy stuff offline, and it can get traced back to you

DeusEchelonDitis
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posted 06-22-2006 16:27

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Originally posted by Chimro: I called and said their powerbar was defective and short-circuted my computer and they just laughed at me. I guess this phone number doesn't work.

I loled! its a candy bar and not hardware.

T521
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posted 06-23-2006 09:21

anybody tried this with beer? Sypher_X
Regular quote: posted 06-23-2006 17:33

Originally posted by Chimro: I called and said their powerbar was defective and short-circuted my computer and they just laughed at me. I guess this phone number doesn't work.

Please tell me you're joking. RedWasp
Regular posted 06-23-2006 20:44

I'm getting free coke!

0therean
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posted 06-23-2006 21:59

We tried calling the coke company at school one day, but they kept us on hold too long. so we jsut said fuck it and decided to hang up. They had good hold music though... fivetwelve
Regular posted 06-23-2006 22:30

dont do this with clif bars. clif bar is a damn awesome company and i personally would feel like shit ripping them off. coke however, is a whole different story. SilentCivilian
Regular posted 06-23-2006 22:48

okay guys, look in the bad ideas (written section) go to scams and this EXACT thing is there.. my god.. RedWasp
Regular posted 06-24-2006 09:02

Now what's the chance we could do this for money? Firework season's coming up, I'm thinking $200 house damage 15' away. Or injured children. stick person
Regular quote: posted 06-24-2006 15:27

Originally posted by RedWasp: I'm getting free coke!

what did u say

pyromaniac001
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posted 06-24-2006 16:41

I just filled out a complaint form at coke website. http://www2.coca-cola. com/mail/eQuery_product.html do you think they are gonna mail me coupons or a free 20oz? i sed that i bought a 20oz from a vending machine and it was leaking. i gave the old "I hope this doesnt happen to anyone else" Lmao. stick person
Regular quote: posted 06-24-2006 18:28

Originally posted by pyromaniac001: I just filled out a complaint form at coke website. [URL=http: //www2.coc a-cola.com /mail/eQue ry_product .html]http ://www2.co ca-cola.co m/mail/ eQuery_product.html[/URL] do you think they are gonna mail me coupons or a free 20oz? i sed that i bought a 20oz from a vending machine and it was leaking. i gave the old "I hope this doesnt happen to anyone else" Lmao.

i did the same exact thing haha Clifford the Big Red Bong
Regular posted 06-24-2006 19:02

ive called around to some places. once i get some coupons and find someone with a scanner i can use, ill upload what i have. should i make a new thread just for coupons for free shit? pyromaniac001
Regular posted 06-24-2006 20:42

u should make a coupon thread. ill upload some if i get them from coke. rodriguez-162
Regular posted 06-24-2006 20:59

you don't always have to complain. Writing thank you letters works too. "Like thank you for years and years of your wonderful products/i am a loyal customer, etc.

Weedy
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posted 06-25-2006 02:50

quote:

Originally posted by pyromaniac001: I just filled out a complaint form at coke website. [URL=http: //www2.coc a-cola.com /mail/eQue ry_product .html]http ://www2.co ca-cola.co m/mail/ eQuery_product.html[/URL] do you think they are gonna mail me coupons or a free 20oz? i sed that i bought a 20oz from a vending machine and it was leaking. i gave the old "I hope this doesnt happen to anyone else" Lmao.

HA this is what I told them "I had bought a Coca-Cola 20oz from a vending machine out side of WalMart, only to find out it was leaking. You might want to talk to your drivers in the Brooklyn Park, Minnesota area. I hope that this did not happen to anyone else." pyromaniac001
Regular quote: posted 06-26-2006 03:24

Originally posted by rodriguez-162: you don't always have to complain. Writing thank you letters works too. "Like thank you for years and years of your wonderful products/i am a loyal customer, etc.

Then they are like : "Thats very nice and we appreciate your years of commitment ot our product." This forum is about getting stuff free not not getting stuff free. Remedios TB
Regular posted 06-26-2006 03:35

I did this to Slim-Fast and sent in the UPC number (that I got off of a bar at the store) and they wrote back saying they needed more information, like a time stamp on the bar, and gave me a coupon for $0.75 off certain products. Useless. I'm planning on calling up Starbucks later and complaing about flat coffee at one of their stores. I am hoping for a gift card..

The Placebo Effect
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posted 06-26-2006 16:12

quote:

Originally posted by pyromaniac001: do you think they are gonna mail me coupons or a free 20oz? i sed that i bought a 20oz from a vending machine and it was leaking. i gave the old "I hope this doesnt happen to anyone else" Lmao.

They'd send you a coupon for either a free 20 oz. or a case maybe. I'm scared they'd make us try Coke Black. Anyway, we should try as hard as possible to spread out with different companies. If anyone went to the ClifBar site, they saw the sort of small, people-focused company it is. They would notice a massive flood of complaints for the exact same reasons. Due to people too un-original to think of new reasons and just copying ones of this thread, they'll realise something's up and stop giving out free shit. -TyPE

pyromaniac001
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posted 06-26-2006 19:45

I got another email from Coke. THey want the address of the vending machine, the serial number on bottle, my full name, and my daytime phone number. I think i will just buy one, damage it, and say i bought a full case. Da Black Ice
Regular posted 06-26-2006 20:36

Sounds like they're catching on.

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Want free shit? You got it!

Tehjo0HatinNoob
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posted 06-26-2006 21:01

Dear Coca-Cola A few days ago, I purchased a bottle of sprite from A vending machine at a cvs pharmacy in New York City. When the bottle came out of the vending machine, it leaked and was sticky. The bottle was 1/4th full but the seal wasn't open. I then threw the bottle away because it was dripping alot and my hands were very sticky and wet. Then I preceded to buy another one. This one was wet and sticky as well. This is the second time this has happened to me this year. The first time was when I bought a Coke at Roosevelt Field mall. I am very unsatisfied with qualities of these products. I buy Coca-Cola products everyday and I hope this never happens to me or anyone

else again.

MR.Kitty55
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posted 06-27-2006 15:39

Hello, I have been a loyal customer to the coca-cola company for some time now dating back to my child hood and have never experienced a problem with one of your products up until just last week. I purchased a 20 0z. Coke from one of your many vending machines at a Wal-Mart in Virginia and the bottle was severely damaged not to mention leaking. It had appeared someone intentionally had shaken up the bottle as a cruel joke; my main concern of course is that this may be one of many defects in your products and I am most likely not the only customer to have experienced this problem. Sincerely, Gerald Walsh lmfao RedWasp
Regular quote: posted 06-27-2006 21:11

Originally posted by Da Black Ice: Sounds like they're catching on.

Not really. They want to know where the product was dispensed at, probably to bitch at the owner/distributor. Everything else is for them to mail you a free product. This scam has worked for a very long time, they already know it's going on- but can't do much about it or they'd end up screwing PR. [This message has been edited by RedWasp (edited 06-27-2006).] stealth agent
Regular posted 06-27-2006 23:50

Can anyone test this with a way to make cash profit, like pills or something.

rodriguez-162
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posted 06-28-2006 00:08

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Then they are like : "Thats very nice and we appreciate your years of commitment ot our product." This forum is about getting stuff free not not getting stuff free.

I did it with dicks sporting goods and they sent me shit. schoolsucks
Regular quote: posted 06-28-2006 16:04

Originally posted by Still_born: A freind of mine used to go to walmart and find the most exspensive medicines they had otc, then he would write down the serial off of the barcode of the package and call the company and tell them the medicine was missing somthing,he would tell them the serial and they would send him coupons in the mail,he would return those to walmart for gift certificates. He said he made 200 bucks doing this at two walmarts and used the certificates to buy xbox360 games.

did he say it was too misshapen to swallow or was just a big solid clump at the bottom of the bottle or something.

stealth agent
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posted 06-28-2006 20:36

What meds particulary? Remedios TB
Regular posted 06-28-2006 23:39

I've tried this with meds, haven't heard back yet. I said half the bottle was missing : / I've been writing letters because I hate making phone calls, so I'll post when something works.

Cunt
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posted 06-29-2006 04:07

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Originally posted by stealth agent: Can anyone test this with a way to make cash profit, like pills or something.

Are you retarded? Seriously. RedWasp
Regular quote: posted 06-29-2006 05:19

Originally posted by stealth agent: Can anyone test this with a way to make cash profit, like pills or something.

There are laws aginst them shipping off free prescription medicine like that. I'm assuming that's what you mean... xanax
Regular posted 06-29-2006 06:54

Of course...that would be the pharmacy's fault and any good drugs would be under close scrutiny about amounts and any that were suspected missing.

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Found some Radio Shack Employee Documents

hkassassin
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posted 07-01-2006 21:03

I was snooping around behind my local Radio Shack and inside the dumpster I found a box full of internal documents, financial statistics, employee newsletters etc. I've scanned all the ones that are relevant to Bad Ideas. Employee Newsletters (loss prevention stuff) http://tinyurl.com/eu5k4 http://tinyurl.com/hd7nd http://tinyurl.com/h5uwl http://tinyurl.com/e89es http://tinyurl.com/zm5sx http://tinyurl.com/kehk2 http://tinyurl.com/fjypd http://tinyurl.com/kt4yj

Sales Reports (I found quite a few of these but they're not very interesting) http://tinyurl.com/gmhc6 http://tinyurl.com/jb2x9 Some schmuck named Brian (I found quite a few papers on this guy, they wrote him up four or five times for skipping work. Also found some personal information, censored to protect the innocent. http://tinyurl.com/eon2a Ledger Report (Don't know what these are. Got quite a few of them though. http:// tinyurl.com/ghyrc If anybody wants to see more, just post. [This message has been edited by hkassassin (edited 07-01-2006).] hkassassin
Regular posted 07-02-2006 01:13

bump Unseeen
Regular posted 07-02-2006 01:51

http://img490.imageshack.us/img490/8209/lp55xg.jpg "Employee Safety is most important... no heroes. We have an active shoplifting deterrent program, NOT a chase them down and/or fight policy." Interesting. hkassassin
Regular posted 07-02-2006 17:18

very

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CVS check cashing policy allows for security flaw.

Plan B
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posted 07-01-2006 21:47

CVS drug store has a rather unique method of handling checks at their retail locations. Checks can be written for both pharmaceuticals and the other everyday items that CVS also sells. They do require a license or state ID number and phone number when you write a check to pay for something. In this there is given a chance to exploit a security flaw. CVS WILL accept a check from Bank of America without first checking to make sure the account is still active. CVS only keeps a 5 day security loop on their surveillance camera. That is a short loop for a drug store. It's only 5 working days and the tapes run all weekend. When CVS accepts a check as payment they pile them all together and then at the end of the day they goto the bank in a bank drop. This is where you buy your 5days on the loop. When the bank gets the checks they don't even touch the checks. Weird huh? The

bank sends the checks to a clearing house where the checks are then processd. It is at this clearing house that CVS and the Clearing House find out that some of these checks are bad. By this time CVS is nearing the end of their 5 day loop on their security cameras. The clearing house notifies CVS and CVS does'nt notify the bank they send all the information to a collection agency to process. The collection agency gets the information compiles a proper complaint letter or whatever and sends out a bill to the name and address on the checking account. You have surpassed the 5 day loop by 5 days. It takes a full 10 days for the bad check to make its trip. It really happens like this. Someone got ahold of a check I had laying around my house. The checking account had long been closed (3years) and CVS still accepted the check. I got a bill from a collection agency. Someone had used a fake ID to use a check to buy prescription drugs at a local CVS near my home. After digging around I find out there are no security tapes available because they only keep a 5day loop. It is also on the phone with a CVS manager I learn about the whole check accepting/ processing process. The police say because CVS keeps short surveillence loops and their shitty check validation process there is seriously no evidence that can lead them to an arrest. I highly doubt that anyone that was working that day is going to remember what that peticular person looked like. So I guess I got ID pwned. Fuck it, now people know so maybe alot more people will do it.

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Nice way to get money with paypal.

AquaX
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posted 07-01-2006 04:18

So you want some quick cash eh??? Well read this and with some practise and a couple failed attempts you will eventually get this rite Step 1: Get some egold if you don't allready have some. Step 2: "Acquire" a drop to mail some stuff to I will discuss this near the end. Step 3: Order a debit card that can be used with paypal to verify accounts. Here are 2 reliable sites: www.mygcard.com and www.a1exchangers.com Order a debit card or 2 to your drop make sure you get FedEx air unless you have a drop with mail access. Now make sure you are there to sign for the package and sign with your left hand just scribble. Step 4: Now that you have the debit card create a paypal account for the U.S.A. Add a bank account using the debit card information. Check out the debit card account frequently for deposits by paypal. Once you see the deposits verify your paypal account. Step 5:

Create ebay auctions or just make posts on boards and make sure to make your Auctions/Posts look legit provide fake pics etc. Make sure to accept paypal only. Step 6: As soon as you recieve some funds in your paypal account withdraw it to your bank account ASAP. Tip: I prefer geting paid during the end of the week because I can make up an excuse such as the post office is closed so Ill ship it out monday. Just keep stalling them till the money is in your account. Step 7: Now this is the fun part cashing out! :P Take the debit card and go out of town to places that do not have cameras such as some independtley owned restaurnts just places in general that have atms. If you don't know how to use an atm then your fucking stupid! Stay safe kiddies and don't get caught. More tips: If you live in the U.S.A. take advantage of peoples wifi connections and do all of the work from there. PayPal will freeze accounts with IP'S comming from very shity proxies or differnt states in general. Also make sure that you register the paypal to the same state. Thats all for now i will revise this later and make changes... philthemn
Regular posted 07-01-2006 14:14

This is a nice idea. But wouldn't you be traced by buying your egold? or do the debit card companies not give away confidential info? Some one mentioned somewhere that you could set up 2 e-gambling accounts. In this case, one would be with your real credit card, one wiht the anonymous debit card, then you would purposely lose in black jack (only 2 player game) from CC to DC. This would pay money to your debit card account for sellers fees etc. and allow you to stay anonymous. EDIT: I have just realised that you need the anonymous money to buy the debit card in the first place. oh well... [This message has been edited by philthemn (edited 07-01-2006).]

AquaX
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posted 07-01-2006 15:37

quote:

Originally posted by philthemn: This is a nice idea. But wouldn't you be traced by buying your egold? or do the debit card companies not give away confidential info? Some one mentioned somewhere that you could set up 2 egambling accounts. In this case, one would be with your real credit card, one wiht the anonymous debit card, then you would purposely lose in black jack (only 2 player game) from CC to DC. This would pay money to your debit card account for sellers fees etc. and allow you to stay anonymous. EDIT: I have just realised that you need the anonymous money to buy the debit card in the first place. oh well...

To answer your question you can be anonymous while buying egold. Goto www. talkgold.com and look through there forums. www.capitalex.com doesn't verify any info just say you live in canada provide a canadian number that is not yours, but I must warn you sometimes they are fast but sometimes it will take 2 weeks to get egold. Edit: forgot to mention you can pay with WU, and be smart don't use your real name to send the payment VIA WU! FYI WU=Western Union [This message has been edited by AquaX (edited 07-01-2006).] AquaX
Regular posted 07-01-2006 19:40

Aynone got any questions? Dandys_Rule_OK
Regular posted 07-01-2006 19:59

Yeah, 1)How do you avoid being traced through your bank account used to withdraw paypal funds. 2) How do you deal with the fact that e-gold recently turned over all it's transaction ifno the US authorities so is traceable. 3) How do you use a blocked range of BINs to verify paypal (most anon BINs are blocked for that, giftcards etc). 4) How do you deal with the fact that paypal removes funds from bank accounts for things like this? Dandy

alexkrycek
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posted 07-02-2006 07:31

He claimed that you can transfer money from Paypal to your Gcard account. Assuming you use false information when setting up your Gcard, then you should remain anonymous. In regards to Paypal verification, a user by the name of A1Exchangers posted the following at http://forum.scriptlance.com/showthread.php?t=773 (note: posted on May 10, 2006): "This card will also verify a Paypal account assuming you are from a country which is supported by PayPal which also allows for you to add a US bank account. The card is not an actual bank account but for the purpose of Paypal verification and withdrawal...it is. Thus you may not write a check with the debit card, nor could you receive a check, or perform other banking related transactions. The one thing that the card will allow you to do is receive a direct deposit from any employer, government, Adsense affiliate payout, Paypal direct deposit etc." But it seems that you need to "activate" your gcard before you can use Paypal, which I'm a little confused about. Gcard says that "In order to purchase your card, you don't have to provide your SSN, a Driver's License # is enough. But, to activate (automatic online form) your card you have to provide your SSN in order to use it. Your SSN is required only for the AVS (Address Verification System)." ( http://www.moneymakergroup. com/lofiversion/index.php/t35023.html ) But some users have stated that to activate your gcard "you will have to provide your id + utility bill" ( http://board.my-atmcard.biz/viewtopic.php?pid=285 ). If this is the case, you could always just fax them fake documents. I hear you can do wonders with Photoshop nowadays. [This message has been edited by alexkrycek (edited 07-02-2006).] duffman206
Regular quote: posted 07-02-2006 10:50

Originally posted by AquaX: So you want some quick cash eh??? Well read this and with some practise and a couple failed attempts you will eventually get this rite Step 1: Get some egold if you don't allready have some. Step 2: "Acquire" a drop to mail some stuff to I will discuss this near the end. Step 3: Order a debit card that can be used with paypal to verify accounts. Here are 2 reliable sites: www.mygcard.com and www. a1exchangers.com

Order a debit card or 2 to your drop make sure you get FedEx air unless you have a drop with mail access. Now make sure you are there to sign for the package and sign with your left hand just scribble. Step 4: Now that you have the debit card create a paypal account for the U.S.A. Add a bank account using the debit card information. Check out the debit card account frequently for deposits by paypal. Once you see the deposits verify your paypal account. Step 5: Create ebay auctions or just make posts on boards and make sure to make your Auctions/Posts look legit provide fake pics etc. Make sure to accept paypal only. Step 6: As soon as you recieve some funds in your paypal account withdraw it to your bank account ASAP. Tip: I prefer geting paid during the end of the week because I can make up an excuse such as the post office is closed so Ill ship it out monday. Just keep stalling them till the money is in your account. Step 7: Now this is the fun part cashing out! :P Take the debit card and go out of town to places that do not have cameras such as some independtley owned restaurnts just places in general that have atms. If you don't know how to use an atm then your fucking stupid! Stay safe kiddies and don't get caught. More tips: If you live in the U.S.A. take advantage of peoples wifi connections and do all of the work from there. PayPal will freeze accounts with IP'S comming from very shity proxies or differnt states in general. Also make sure that you register the paypal to the same state. Thats all for now i will revise this later and make changes...

I have a feeling this is very illegal.

AquaX
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posted 07-02-2006 16:11

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Originally posted by alexkrycek: He claimed that you can transfer money from Paypal to your Gcard account. Assuming you use false information when setting up your Gcard, then you should remain anonymous. In regards to Paypal verification, a user by the name of A1Exchangers posted the following at [URL=http: //forum.sc riptlance. com/showth read.php?t =773]http: //forum.sc riptlance. com/showthread.php?t=773[/URL] (note: posted on May 10, 2006): "This card will also verify a Paypal account assuming you are from a country which is supported by PayPal which also allows for you to add a US bank account. The card is not an actual bank account but for the purpose of Paypal verification and withdrawal...it is. Thus you may not write a check with the debit card, nor could you receive a check, or perform other banking related transactions. The one thing that the card will allow you to do is receive a direct deposit from any employer, government, Adsense affiliate payout, Paypal direct deposit etc." But it seems that you need to "activate" your gcard before you can use Paypal, which I'm a little confused about. Gcard says that "In order to purchase your card, you don't have to provide your SSN, a Driver's License # is enough. But, to activate (automatic online form) your card you have to provide your SSN in order to use it. Your SSN is required only for the AVS (Address Verification System)." ( [URL=http: // www.mone ymakergrou p.com/lofi version/in dex.php/t3 5023. html] http://www .moneymakergroup.com/lofiversion/index. php/t35023.html[/URL] ) But some users have stated that to activate your gcard "you will have to provide your id + utility bill" ( [URL=http: //board.my -atm-card. biz/viewto pic.php?pi d=285]http ://board.m y-atm-card .biz/viewtopic.php?pid=285 [/URL] ). If this is the case, you could always just fax them fake documents. I hear you can do wonders with Photoshop nowadays.

SWIMS never used Gcards SWIM allways used A1Exchangers because there cheaper but there are a lot of people reporting that the GCARD works. [This message has been edited by AquaX (edited 07-02-2006).]

AquaX
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posted 07-02-2006 16:24

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Originally posted by Dandys_Rule_OK: Yeah, 1)How do you avoid being traced through your bank account used to withdraw paypal funds. 2) How do you deal with the fact that e-gold recently turned over all it's transaction ifno the US authorities so is traceable. 3) How do you use a blocked range of BINs to verify paypal (most anon BINs are blocked for that, giftcards etc). 4) How do you deal with the fact that paypal removes funds from bank accounts for things like this? Dandy

1. It's not hard to avoid being traced get the debit card mailed to a drop and don't use your real name. 2. So what if egold did? All you have to do is buy egold with WU under a fake name using wifi or proxies. 3. Well I've never had any problems with paypal blocking bins and such, if you need a good VCC email [email protected] 4. If you are fast enough they won't. Because you will allready have the cash in your hands So just cash it out as soon as the funds are in the debit card. Genesis
Regular posted 07-02-2006 17:20

Seems like a real easy way to get prosecuted for fraud.. a smarter method might be to simply send the mark something similar in weight. That way there's a tracking code, it looks like it's the real deal from paypal's standpoint, and much less chance that paypal/the mark will come after you legally. Dandys_Rule_OK
Regular posted 07-02-2006 17:24

You won't be able to use the CC to buy WU online because they go to your credit record to verify it, if it's anynoymous then there's no credit record so they won't take the risk. Dandy

AquaX
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posted 07-02-2006 18:10

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Originally posted by Dandys_Rule_OK: You won't be able to use the CC to buy WU online because they go to your credit record to verify it, if it's anynoymous then there's no credit record so they won't take the risk. Dandy

WTF are you talking about???? You use the cc that u get in the mail at atms. I think you are confused. I meant when you buy egold you use Western union. Edit: its not even a cc its a debit card but it can be used where MC is accepted. [This message has been edited by AquaX (edited 07-02-2006).] Shit for Brains
Regular posted 07-02-2006 20:42

Hi, I got a question, Lets say you removed your withdraw limit how much could you withdraw with out getting your PP limited with a new PP? what are ur experiences ? Thx AquaX
Regular posted 07-02-2006 23:51

SWIM usually with draws about 4.5k at once to the paypal.

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Free Video Games

JoseValentin
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posted 07-07-2006 21:00

All EB Games and Gamestop locations have a trade-in 3 PS2/3 Xbox games and recieve $10 store credit. The offer is not good on Sports games before 05, wresting games, and demo games. The "scam" works like this. Go to any online gaming store and buy many games worth $1.99 used. Some examples are Metal Gear Solid 2 and Max Payne. Make sure the genre is not sports, racing, wresting, or demo. 3 Games will cost approx. $6 Go to an EB Games. Trade in 3 games. The trade in value is usually about 1/2 of a used game. Thus you will recieve $3 cash with $10 store credit. Each time you do this you will recieve about $7-$8 profit.

Do it as many times as you want and then eventually you will have enough store credit to 'steal' any game you want or even a xbox 360 if you do it enough Enjoy this great scam. MisguidedCommunist
Regular posted 07-07-2006 21:06

Thats not a scam really... Fuzzle
Regular posted 07-07-2006 21:56

I like the idea but I don't know how well this would work. Good thinking though. cegha
Regular posted 07-07-2006 22:03

i did something similar about 4 years ago. Circuit City use to have liquidated games, in there store, the tags would say like $20, but when rung up would say anything from $19.99 down to like $2. Well EB ran some special the day after christmas, trade in 4 games and get Final Fantasy Crytal Chronicles. So i got that game for like $20. Then i traded in like 6 other games, and they had to like where the minimum that they would give you per game was $10. So games that normally would have only got you $2-$3, were getting me $10 a piece. I ended up with like $60 store credit, and FF:CC on reserve all for like $50. I came out with like $110 worth of stuff for like $50. Your Papi
Regular posted 07-07-2006 22:11

I'd rather steal games and sell them on ebay. Thats a great scam.

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Bathroom scam.

Don Quixote
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posted 07-06-2006 11:09

I was talking to a guy today who used to do this back in the 70's. I'm not sure if it'd still work today but I'm thinking it might at least get you thinking about how to adapt it. He'd put a magic eye sign in one bathroom stall, attached to the door, with instructions involving that you need to look at it for around 60 seconds to get the effect. Who could resist? While they were trying to get it to work, he'd reach ever so slowly under the stall and take the wallet from the person's pocket, and then leave.

I thought it was a pretty neat concept. midgetbasketball
Regular posted 07-06-2006 11:37

Its a good idea but they might notice the wallet coming out of there pocket unless there really into the magic eye whocares123
Regular posted 07-06-2006 11:51

is this a joke? Vizzini
Moderator posted 07-06-2006 12:00

I am pretty sure 'magic eye' was a phenomenom of the 90's. That, and I really hope you are joking about this. If you really lack morals, go into the womens toilets, wait in the stall for someone to go in next to you, snatch their bag then leave. Simple. Garrett
Regular posted 07-06-2006 12:05

Thats why i squat with my feet on the seet and hope my aim is good.

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Scraping for fun and profit.

3PushesBullet
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posted 07-10-2006 00:04

No, I don't mean dirty street fighting, I mean metal scrapping. Now, that, in and of itself isn't a bad idea, hell, it's honest money, the bad idea part of it comes in the form of how you get the best shit to scrap. And how do you do this? Why, by stealing the metal, of course. Now, I'm not sure how much this needs to be said, but this is strictly for entertainment value, and will more likely than not get you into some deep shit if'n you try it, so don't, because I won't be held responsable. Now that that's out of the way, on with the show. Now, have you ever been walking along, just minding your own business, when you come accros a metal lid or manhole cover in the sidewalk with a small, black, plastic disk(1) on it? That's an ERT, and it's on top of a meter pit, or vault. It's the water meter for a particular building or area in there. http://tinyurl.com/fy7ke (1) The Ert is the mushroom looking thing with the wire on the bottom If you don't see one of those, you can also look for a manhole cover painted blue, wich is the water utility cover.

Once you see one of those signs, (ERT or blue lid), you're almost in business, now, open that lid. Inside you will see a water meter(2), wich is made of brass. Brass, the last time I checkes, goes for about $.90 per pound. Doesn't sound like much? A three inch turbine top (3) (Very common, trust me) weighs something like 5 lbs. and those are some of the smaller ones you'll find. Now, for the purposes of time, and ease of procurment, that's what we'll be talking about. If you're feeling frisky, you can snag the whole fucking meter, but I will warn you, it's a bitch, in more ways than one. First, the bolts holding it are larger, harder to get out, and more numerous than the turbine bolts. A full meter body is much heaver (although that makes it more valueable, it's also harder to transport.), and it's much more recognizable for the cats at the scrap plant, which means it's easier for your ass to end up in the proverbial sling. http://tinyurl.com/gmvxk (2) Full meter body, note the rounded, raised piece, towards the left end of the meter in the top picture. http://tinyurl.com/gakqh (3) You see the handles, those are attached to the turbine, so learn what it looks like, 'cause that's what you'll be snagging. Now that you know what you're looking for, here's what you'll need, and how to get 'er done, as the expression goes. Tools needed-Pipe wrench, for working valves -3 lb. mini sledge, also for valves -Ratchet -extension for said ratchet -3/4 socket -Torx screwdriver with a small hole in the center =optional: small center punch, ball pean hammer, and small douglas (flat) head screw driver. Now, for the procedure. (again, this may be redundant, but do this at night, if you were to do it at all, which I would personally recomend against.) Climb your silly, law breaking ass into the pit. Look for the inlet valve. (you do know what a valve is, don't you?) It will be before the strainer (refer to picture two, it will be the oval or rectangular shaped lid toward the right side of the meter.) Turn this off. (Warning, unless you've engaged the by-pass, this will shut off the water to whatever that meter feeds. The bypass will be off to the side of the meter. It's a simple pipe, with a valve in it, and a 90 degree bend at each end of it, and the ends will be before the inlet, and after the outlet, respectively. It's purpose is to allow water to flow to the building while the meter is being worked on. If you see one of these, it's recomended that you engage it, so as to not only cover your mis doings a while longer, but to give the building water. No need to be a cock and a thief.) After you get the inlet off, find the outlet valve, this will be after the turbine (the part you're taking), and turn it off. The reason for doing this should be obvious, but since this is Bad Ideas, it will stop the water from flowing thru the meter, which will keep the meter and bolts from flying up and K. O. ing your ass. Now, take your socket, extension, and ratchet, and take the four bolts out of the turbine (note: since it's brass, all you'll have to do is break it loose, it should spin out with your fingers after that). Once you do that, take the turbind out. Now, at this point, you've got some options, you can A. Cut the black wire that you see leading from the register (that's the plastic "meter" looking thing on top of the turbine) to the ERT (2), and take the whole kit and kaboodle back with you, B. use your torx bit with the hole in it to take the register off, or C., use the small punch, hammer, and douglas driver to take the register off, in case you haven't got the torx driver.

At this point, what you should have in your hand, is a plastic U shaped piece with a "fan" in the middle, and a brass top. Now, the plastic is useless, but the brass is money. Take this whole set up back to your house, or where ever you feel most comfortable to do a piece of work. Once you're in your safe house, take the register off, if you haven't already. Now, you need to disasemble the turbine, to get the brass. To do this, turn the meter upside down (plastic up) and look on the underside. You should see a small screw. Take that out. Now, turn it right side up. On top of the brass, you should see a plastic plug with a slot cut into it. Take that out. (note: you have to pry it out, it doesn't unscrew.) Now, take out everything that was under that plug, most of it will unscrew. Once that is done, you should be able to twist the brass top off of it. And there you have it, a nice chunk of yellow brass, perfect for the scrap yard. Now, take some boxes about the size of the "small" moving boxes from UHaul, if you fill two of those up with turbine tops, you've got close to 2-300 lbs. of shit, at $.90 per lb. Yay for you. Tips -Make a major move in one night, it takes a lot to make any money, so use a truck to get around, scout out an area if you like. -wear gloves, as if you little criminals didn't know that. -Have a partner keep watch -Brass is a soft metal, easy to beat out of shape, if you like. -Have a good back story for the scrap guys, if they ask questions. -Those turbine tops aren't the only brass in there, most of the meter (including the oh so easy to remove strainer top) is made of brass, so get what you can. Again, you can take the whole fucking thing if you like, but that's risky as shit. Another interesting tactic is to find an old, vacant house (Late '60s era), and grab the plumbing out of it. Most older buildings like that will have copper plumbing. Copper goes for about $1.50 per lb. Unfortunately, it's very light, so it takes quite a bit to get any green. Simply find a faucet in said old house, and look at the piping that feeds it. If it's copper, jack every bit you can lay your hands on. If you don't know what copper looks or feels like, got to home depot and study it, for lack of a better term.

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Bad Ideas FAQ

dDIzzIEe
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posted 02-25-2006 20:45

The unofficial TOTSE Bad Ideas FAQ [v1.2] can be viewed here. The Bad Ideas Heap O' Scams v.I can be viewed here (mirrored here). Version II is available here If you want to download the FAQ and both of the Heaps O' Scams compendiums, you can do so here with this All-In-One PDF compilation.

It would be great if someone could be sure to bump this thread once a week or so (and delete your previous bumps so the thread doesn't get too cluttered) or else whenever the forum gets pruned, the thread will be deleted. [This message has been edited by dDIzzIEe (edited 03-05-2006).]

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The $50 scam....

t0n3z
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posted 04-09-2006 11:16

Anyone remember this. Buy a pack of gum or something for like $1 or $0.50 with a $50 note, you get back 2x $20 notes, $5 note and coins. Turn around and quickly pocket a $20 and turn around and tell the cashier you paid in a $50 note and that your missing a $20 noteor something like that. Well, I did that yesterday 15 times and it took me like 1 hour and I made $300 to pay for my flight coz im moving states and now I got some extra cash in the pocket. Lol, it works and never fails, try it. Not once did it not work except when the dumb blode checkout chick dropped one of the $20 notes before she handed me the cash so I didn't bother and just chewed my gym and did it on another register, lol. AtomicSte
Regular posted 04-09-2006 11:17

lol nice work! i am going to try this today. thanks, AtomicSte t0n3z
Regular posted 04-09-2006 11:27

I have $1000 of bill to pay off, next saturday i'll do $500 worth ova a few shopping centres and then the next saturday also. Guess you could do it during the week but hey, 9am - 5pm, all day on a saturday when it busy is the best more cashiers at stores. Can go hit all the major stores and then go back and get em again at different tellers, just dont do the same register twice unless another person is on it and then still coz the other register person next to you might remember u can me to that teller saying your missing $20. AtomicSte
Regular posted 04-09-2006 11:35

Jesus 9-5?!?!?!? props to you! i hope you get all the money you need plus a little extra spending money! Lucky7
Regular posted 04-09-2006 12:32

The simple one are almost always the best hehe. Good going.

t0n3z
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posted 04-09-2006 12:38

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Originally posted by Lucky7: The simple one are almost always the best hehe. Good going.

True, how many little register scams have you seen that get you $50 but a hard to pull off and hardly work or getting $10 from a register with a scam but it never works. This works all the time, sometime you might get 2 $10 notes, a $20, $5 and coins instead of 2 $20's but u just pocket the $10. Wat eva duplicate u get just pocket once, dont let the opportunity pass, its still $10, next 6 - 10 times will be $20 ones u will get a few $10 but not to many. pigeonbomb
Regular posted 04-09-2006 12:59

Im sorry Im not to sure what you guys mean, do you mean pocket 20 dollars from the register? Lucky7
Regular posted 04-09-2006 13:07

You put $20 of the change in your pocket and then go back.. pretending to have counted your change and ask for the extra $20 that they 'didn't' give you in the first place. Source
Regular posted 04-09-2006 15:50

Here in the UK, shops take the till off and take it to the office and cash it up to see if it balances, if it does you don't get shit. scorpio2121
Regular posted 04-09-2006 15:54

they are not going to say 'i need to take the till to the office, be bakci n half an hour' to you are they

AtomicSte
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posted 04-09-2006 16:27

well actually Source does have a point. i live in Ireland and my friend tried to do this sort of scam at Mc Donalds but my friend got OWNED when the worker took the till to the back office and then came out and started shouting at him! but....just try it at a petrol station (gas station for all the Americans ) and it should work with no problems. Pink
Regular posted 04-09-2006 17:45

Your little scam has many flaws and i find it to be quiet stupid. This scam will not work at all stores for many reasons. What happens if you are cought? Have you thought of this or do you wish to find out the "hard way." If you do this to many times a cashier may be come agitated and "ban" you from their store. You should try another scam that is more and has a greater return rate. well I done bitching . :P [This message has been edited by Pink (edited 04-09-2006).] SilentMind
Regular posted 04-09-2006 17:50

Theres actually not that much risk of being caught. If you are, then you're not going to get the extra 20, thats about it. It just doesnt sound like it would work too often in my mind. Pink
Regular posted 04-09-2006 18:26

lol but it is quiet sad what some do for small amounts of money. Funny to. Source
Regular quote: posted 04-09-2006 19:07

Originally posted by scorpio2121: they are not going to say 'i need to take the till to the office, be bakci n half an hour' to you are they

They do it there and then, it only takes 5 minutes. Then you look like a twat who can't count. t0n3z
Regular posted 04-09-2006 20:02

I don't know about other contries but in Australia and on a saturday when its busy u can pull this off. I saturday do it al day long and you can pocket $500, last you a nice 2 weeks if ur in school still and dont fucking blow that cash. When I did this I looked respectable, dresses well, good shoes, good jeans good shirt. That helps. Good Luck majic-falcon
Regular quote: posted 04-09-2006 20:32

Originally posted by Source: They do it there and then, it only takes 5 minutes. Then you look like a twat who can't count.

Dear god!! Public Embarassment! Frakir
Regular posted 04-09-2006 22:22

The highest form of shame!

In more than a couple of states, if they care enough, they can get you on fraud. Yes, I've seen it happen. Yes, I've done it to some bastage who tried it on me. ManInBlack
Regular posted 04-09-2006 23:29

Do you think this would work better with a $100 bill? A lot of cashiers count the bills into your hand, and fifties are rarely given in change, so it would seem like if you had 9 twenties coming back instead of 4 it would be easier to make the case that one is missing. [This message has been edited by ManInBlack (edited 04-09-2006).]

Frakir
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posted 04-09-2006 23:56

You're much more likly to get noticed if you use a hundred dollar bill. If you use one, don't hit the same store twice. The_Lurker
Regular posted 04-10-2006 00:40

I'm not too sure about this one. It seems like they would count the money in the register for an imbalance. ManInBlack
Regular quote: posted 04-10-2006 01:07

Originally posted by Frakir: You're much more likly to get noticed if you use a hundred dollar bill. If you use one, don't hit the same store twice.

I don't think I would hit the same store twice anyway...maybe a different cashier a few days later, but not in the same day, obviously.

t0n3z
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posted 04-10-2006 03:34

You guys are worring to much. Unless the cashier uctually pulls a 20 and says 20, the puts the other 20 into you hands and says 40 and then the 5 and say 45 and if you bought a item for $1 and they put the coins into your and and say $49. Thats when you dont do it, every other time you can. Also, if they count the till just say well I have a bus to get and I can't miss it and it's in like 5 mintues, give a fake name and number and goto the next store. Don Quixote
Regular posted 04-10-2006 04:12

If you pocket all the cash, take a few steps, and pull it all out except the 20 and say that they didn't give it to you, there's little chance that they won't give you the money. Even if they do say that they did, call a superviser and start counting cash, start patting down all your pockets and eventually 'find' the other 20. They'll just take it as an accident, if they care at all.

blink
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posted 04-10-2006 04:27

Just drop a twenty on the floor. Put your foot on it to block some asshole nearby from picking it up. If you are challenged, you can look around and 'discover' the twenty you dropped. This would work seamlessly in a mall by having a shopping bag that you place on the floor in front of you while at the checkout. The twenty may land in the bag, but if not your scam still won't be discovered because you can nonchalantly recover the dropped twenty while scooping up your shopping bag before leaving. Garrett
Regular posted 04-10-2006 04:37

Theres a pretty low chance this would work, but then again its almost a no risk venture. Its like, i dont do shoplifting but whenever i go to a walmart type place, if im forced to wait in line i grab a coke from their stupid rack things and just hang onto it in the other hand. Then if you have your cash in the other hand (its a 3 dollar bottle of coke, but still better not to give the store your details while your pulling it off), and just walk out. A bottle of coke, even a full one, could have been bought anywhere, and if they question you about it just go "oh yeah right ring this up aswell". stanley-dookiewilliams
Regular posted 05-25-2006 19:15

just thermite everything Fate
Moderator posted 05-25-2006 21:01

At my store we train all the cashiers to count the change out to the customer, therefore there is absolutely no doubt. Before the money ever hits the customer's hand the drawer is closed, then the cashier counts it out and reopens the drawer if they're actually short. This way, the cash it counted twice - Once by the cashier, and once again to the customer. If a customer tries to pull the "you stiffed me X amount of money" thing, they have the following working against them: First, the money was counted to them and they saw it and accepted it. Second, we don't take anybody for their word and ask that the customer give us their name, number, and address and at the end of the day if the till is over we'll call them in for cash or mail them a check, their choice. We've had lots of people try to hustle us, and so far none of them have been dumb enough to follow through with the name and address bit (because if we're not over, we simply forward the name, address, phone number, and CCTV tapes to the cops). Also, with the double counting thing we've never had a cashier shortchange a customer in my entire tenure at the place.

ZoaN
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posted 05-26-2006 00:25

What stores did you do this with in Australia? Cause i cant imagine it working in kmart and such. Lacedwithdelight
Regular posted 05-26-2006 08:53

Im a cashier and you could probably pull this off on me if I was having a busy day. Just look like a soccer mom/business man, and most people wont think twice about. SpectraL
Regular posted 05-26-2006 09:36

The guy has the cash in hand to prove it works (even got some good Hubba-Bubba flavor while doing it). That's all that matters. Cops, or even arrest, would be a minimal concern on this type of scam, since it can be easily argued out of court. pigeonbomb
Regular posted 05-26-2006 10:06

Im thinking of trying this tommorow, but instead of pocketing/dropping money just keep it in my hands and if i get caught just act like a dumbass who cant count for shit. Im underage so even if i get snapped meh plank00000
Regular quote: posted 05-26-2006 10:13

Originally posted by Pink: lol but it is quiet sad what some do for small amounts of money. Funny to.

yeah like going to work im sorry but them small amounts of money can get osmeone stoend, feed their kids, feed their addiction etc etc

WhyteWydow
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posted 05-26-2006 15:25

That's a great idea man. Props. There is one problem though. Sometimes the cashier will count you money in front of you to show that he/she's giving you correct change, but great idea none the less. ~Whyte scorpio2121
Regular posted 05-26-2006 15:31

If you try this in england you have a problem, a british 50 pounds is worth a hella lot more than an american 50 dollars, and therefore harder to come by, so when you have one fifty to do it with, if you wanted to hit up more than one shop, you would have to go and find somewhere that will exchange your money for a fifty pound note. WhyteWydow
Regular quote: posted 05-26-2006 15:34

Originally posted by Garrett: Theres a pretty low chance this would work, but then again its almost a no risk venture. Its like, i dont do shoplifting but whenever i go to a walmart type place, if im forced to wait in line i grab a coke from their stupid rack things and just hang onto it in the other hand. Then if you have your cash in the other hand (its a 3 dollar bottle of coke, but still better not to give the store your details while your pulling it off), and just walk out. A bottle of coke, even a full one, could have been bought anywhere, and if they question you about it just go "oh yeah right ring this up aswell".

You pay three dollers for a bottle of coke? ~Whyte Laughing Peni
Regular posted 05-26-2006 17:20

this sounds really easy and like it could work. imma try it tommorow.

Kok_Holliday
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posted 05-27-2006 16:42

Yeah, but what happens if you come across some asshole cashier who knows the scam? It isn't as less-known as it was years ago. And, if they want to, they CAN get you for fraud. A big risk for $20. Millixion
Regular posted 05-27-2006 17:36

How about if you walk out to your car at say a gas station, open the door, throw a 20 on the floor, come back a minute later saying "I'm sorry, but I was counting my change in the car and I think you guys kind of shortchanged me.. I think you forgot to give me a 20 and I really need that money for gas.." The worst they can do is yell at you and refuse you the 20. It's not like they know who you are. Eric Shawn
Regular posted 05-30-2006 10:06

Some little mall ninja tried this on me at work today, funny thing was I was reading this thread just as he came to the check-out. Thanks totse for helping me to avoid being owned by a mall ninja ! and yeah I am going to do this on the weekend I think it'll work. The only reason the cunt didnt pull it off on me was there wasn't a massive cue waiting to be served so I wasn't rushing enfaded Serenicity
Regular posted 05-30-2006 10:47

what store did you do this in ? And where do you live in Aussie ? mayor of monkey town
Regular posted 05-30-2006 13:59

Pick your mark. Dont pick the wide eyed employee of the month, choose the deadbeat hungover guy, the nervous customer focused teenager or some other easily duped character. I might try this.

casanova
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posted 05-30-2006 18:41

People have tried this to me and it doesn't work. The scum who try to pull this off always assume that even if I do suspect something is up, I would never go through all the trouble to count the money in the register...couldn't be more wrong. beirut
Regular quote: posted 05-30-2006 19:10

Originally posted by Source: Then you look like a twat who can't count.

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Originally posted by ManInBlack: Do you think this would work better with a $100 bill? A lot of cashiers count the bills into your hand, and fifties are rarely given in change, so it would seem like if you had 9 twenties coming back instead of 4 it would be easier to make the case that one is missing. (edited 04-09-2006).]

I see we have a few here at totse... Millixion
Regular posted 05-30-2006 21:25

What if you do it with a 20 and say they didn't give you a 10? Or if they paid back with all 5s, say they missed one? It's a smaller profit, but it's a lot more common for someone to pay with a 20 than a 50. (I don't think I've even seen a 50 dollar bill in my life more than maybe a handful of times.) I remember now that I saw that in that movie "Twenty Bucks"

Aquarillis
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posted 07-12-2006 20:49

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Originally posted by The_Lurker: I'm not too sure about this one. It seems like they would count the money in the register for an imbalance.

Dude, no one is going to tell everyone to wait so they can count ALL the money in the register. You know how much money is usually in them? And who keeps track of the money inside, escpecially if you're a part-time clerk? Knuckles
Regular posted 07-12-2006 21:42

Why don't you just shoot your load all over the checkout girl, in her eyes and everything, then help yourself to the contents of teh tillz0r? I've been doing it all this week and it works like a charm. [This message has been edited by Knuckles (edited 07-12-2006).] VegetaRobGT
Regular posted 07-12-2006 22:03

Wtf that actually works? Darian_AR
Regular posted 07-12-2006 22:28

This doesn't work in my Wal*Mart. I tried, cause if you read my topic on here that says I need 250.00, you'll know why. The reason this won't work at my Wal*Mart, and probably some of your stores too, is if the associate is required to count the change back to you. Our ho's at Wal*Mart actually make you hold out your hand and they count back the change to you, placing the bills in your palm, followed by the reciept. They count it backwards, bill by bill, untill they reach the total. I guess they got wise to this scam here. They don't count back coin change, they just throw it at you, basically, but the bills they do. fatowlsv
Regular posted 07-12-2006 22:37

In Dc, this scam gets used so often, they actually went so far as to put a warning for cashiers on FOX 5 news about it. That was about 6 months ago.

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The $50 scam....

gunjah
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posted 07-12-2006 22:47

If its not busy theyll probably count the money in the register. EDIT: oh ya, thsi should be called the $20 scam as thats what your profiting (before expenses). call it "The $50 scam...." implies that i will be making $50, which i wont. [This message has been edited by gunjah (edited 07-13-2006).] MSW2006
Regular posted 07-12-2006 23:19

I remember reposting this scam a couple of years ago after having picked it up from someone else on here, if you can find Dizzy's archive of TOTSE scam discussions I've posted a few more of this sort. LucifyRe
Regular posted 07-13-2006 01:22

Yeah my girlfriend works at walgreens. People come in all the time claiming to give her a $100 bill when it was really a $10. If the person gives you bullshit they just call the manager and count the money...

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Time Card Fun

scuzzy elo
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posted 07-13-2006 09:57

Time Card Fun 2006 scuzzy-elo (C)opywhatever PLEASE, JUST DON'T RE-POST/PLAGIARISE ANY OF MY TEXTS. I will deal with any distribution of these documents. [001.0] - Introduction This one came to me when my boss stopped loaning me money between paychecks about two years ago. If executed properly, this scam is simple, reuseable, and close to constraintless. [002.0] - Preparation [NOTE]If the current job of the scheming employee is undesireable for this scam, here are some conditions to look for, possibly even in a part time job or two, to have this scam go as smoothly as possible: (1.0) Flexible and, if possible, requested work hours. (1.1) The employee turns in a schedule request for hours that the employee wants to work instead of working the hours that the employer wants the employee to work.

(2.0) Time cards that are under no surveillance. (3.0) Paycheck received every two weeks. [003.0] - Procedure This is very simple. First, the employee should pick a day that they are not working to go in to work. The employee should then pretend to think that they are on schedule for the selected day and walk directly to the time cards and clock in. This is where the procedure can vary. The employee could continue going about their business and act as if they are working until someone tells them they are not on schedule or just turn around and walk away. The employee must now decide wether to: (1.0) Write in the clock out time for the day they selected to clock in and ditch. (2.0) Wait for the same day of the week to come around before the cut off date for that paycheck, and obviously after the clock in. (2.1) To look less shady, and avoid going in to work at the end of the day to clock out without having been there earlier, the employee could request to work on the same day of the week that they clocked in a week earlier. (3.0) Leave the clock out space blank and leave it up to the person who handles paychecks to decide whether you worked and get paid for those hours. Now the employee gets to dick around untill the first or fifteenth. If the emplyee pulls it off, they should lay low for one or two pay periods at one job and do it at a different one in the meantime. [004.0] - Notes The emplyee should try clocking in as many times as possible without getting caught. This would depend on how the employee feels about the situation. Clock in as early as possible and clock out as late as possible. The employee should apply to as many employers offering flexible hours as possible.

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good little distraction for you

john b
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posted 07-12-2006 23:45

try this one, you need three of you, one has to be a sweet looking chick. now go to a cafe or somewhere where people sit down with laptops and stuff by their chair, and find a good mark with a laptop say. one of you sits behind him and the other somewhere else in the cafe. the girl sits right in front of him at the next table with a load of bags, making it obvious she has been out shopping. she gets up and heads for the toilet and says to the mark 'excuse me, could you just keep an eye on my bags for a minute, please', he aint going to say no.

when she has gone the second guy gets up to leave and as he passes her table, blatently picks up one or two of her bags and carries on to the door, the mark will get up and challenge him saying that the bags belong to the lady and that. while all the comotion is going on number one gets up and picks up the marks laptop and walks out right past number two and the mark with the laptop quickly hidden under his coat. by the time he has dealt with number two and the girl has come back and explained that number two is her boyfriend and they have left and the mark then notices his laptop gone you should all be long gone. viz7bl
Regular posted 07-13-2006 04:48

It'd work if there aren't cameras, if there are and you're identified, welcome to 1st degree grand larceny. With a crime that involves teamwork or partners, it's usually always looked at as planned out. jonogt
Regular posted 07-13-2006 05:11

there'd be no way to prove team work there, only that there was a bad coincidince for the mark. Blue_Yonder
Regular posted 07-13-2006 08:09

Why not just sit around a busy cafe waiting for someone to leave their laptop unattended? How do the other people come in handy? john b
Regular posted 07-13-2006 08:16

how often do people leave their laptop unnattended? especially when you are there looking for it. this way you have a better chance to get a raise, you could sit there all day waiting for some dimlo to go off and leave their laptop there. this works exactly the same with handbags etc. and how many cafes do you see with cameras in them? and you can just go to the next cafe that dont have cameras. [This message has been edited by john b (edited 07-13-2006).] red_stalker
Regular posted 07-13-2006 18:11

have you been watching repeats of the "real hustle"?

N3oc0N
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posted 07-14-2006 19:27

Or you can spike a blow dart with a knockout drug, then take your laptop. john b, where you at? poobread
Regular posted 07-14-2006 23:50

Where am I supposed to get three of me? And how do I get one of me to be a chick? jonogt
Regular quote: posted 07-15-2006 05:16

Originally posted by poobread: Where am I supposed to get three of me? And how do I get one of me to be a chick?

apply solid state carbon dioxide (dry ice) to genitals, allow member to free and solidify, knock off with chisel, then tape silicon heal cusions from shoes onto ur chest.

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The Pon Poning Scheme

faithbanks
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posted 07-13-2006 02:02

This is a relatively simple scheme. The "Pon" is for coupon. You see, I like to read the Sunday's papers....you know those sales papers that come in the newspaper like from Target and Eckerd? That's what I like. Sometimes, these stores offer coupons for free gift cards for like $25 or more or less if you get a new prescription filled with them (but you cannot have medicaid or any state sponsored health plan). I basically have a folder of free trial month coupons I've gotten in various names from various drug companies. Right now, I had a coupon for a free Nuva Ring. You have to scour around for drug companies offering free trial supplies. I also have a Zyrtec coupon. You go to drug companies' websites and they are sometimes offering a promotion. Basically, you call in your prescription yourself under the same name the free trial drug certificate is in. Then, you present the drug companies' free trial certificate and the pharmacy's gift card coupon when you go to pick it up.

Thus, you get free drugs you can use or sell and you get a free gift card as well. Sweet! I did this recently and I got myself a free digital camera with the free gift card. This scheme is not at all risky. It may not be as profitable as bank robbery, but it's decent. Shopping like a decent person with my gift card was different and fun and a welcome change from my normal look-over-thy-shoulder shoplifting. Warrussia
Regular posted 07-13-2006 02:05

Do a stick up. get all the money in the till faithbanks
Regular quote: posted 07-13-2006 04:50

Originally posted by Warrussia: Do a stick up. get all the money in the till

I'm scared. I don't want anyone to calleth the po po on me. jonogt
Regular posted 07-13-2006 06:47

i wanted to do this w/ambien. don't you have to have an actual written prescript to take in with your free trial certificate for them to give em to you though? Unregistered
Regular posted 07-13-2006 10:59

Sounds good, I might try this out and some stage. faithbanks
Regular quote: posted 07-14-2006 03:21

Originally posted by jonogt: i wanted to do this w/ambien. don't you have to have an actual written prescript to take in with your free trial certificate for them to give em to you though?

You don't at Eckerd. I usually only do this with Eckerd, but tomorrow I am hitting Target with this. Oh, and I didn't know Ambien had a deal...I'm going to hit up their site for a freebie. Thanks man! here are the drug promotions currently being offered: 1. Ortho tri-cyclen lo 2. Ambien 3. The Nuva Ring Anyone else feel free to tell us the companies you've found who are offering the promotions as the promotions are key to this scheme.

lsd_easy_as_abc
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posted 07-14-2006 03:24

ambien is nice, you can get fucked up off it but do you need a doctors perscription to get ekerd to fill them? or can you just give them the coupon regardless of weather of no you actaully need the medication? faithbanks
Regular quote: posted 07-14-2006 03:28

Originally posted by lsd_easy_as_abc: ambien is nice, you can get fucked up off it but do you need a doctors perscription to get ekerd to fill them? or can you just give them the coupon regardless of weather of no you actaully need the medication?

No brick and mortar drugstore is going to give you a prescription drugs sans prescription. It just doesn't work that way. And to get your doctor to give you a prescription, you must need the drug. Oh, woe is the average crook! What are we to do? Call in your own prescriptions like I do is what you do. It is not hard once you get used to it. I don't like talking to the folks, so I call the pharmacy and press 9 for the doctor hotline and record my message on the machine.

faithbanks
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posted 07-15-2006 03:59

Today I hit Tarjey and got a nice outfit with my giftcard. This is fun.

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walmart!!! what to steal how to steal it and how much it cost. list of lifting scams

carltonbcool
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posted 07-13-2006 22:05

watches=wrist watches or pocket watches. cost=10-60$ pocket watches are in open cases and can be slid out. you can take the package if you wish but check in the packaging for nagnetic tags. i prefer pocket watches because of the ease to get them and they are more expensive. or put them in some clothes and go to the changing room. _____________________________________________ fishing reels= cost=10-60$ get one of the poles that are 6$ that doesn't come with a reel. open the fishing reel of your choice. take it out of the packaging and put it on the 6$ pole. buy the pole for 6 $. take off the reel and return the pole. sale the reel. _____________________________________________ sunglasses= cost=10 and up$$ aorund 20$ these are to easy to get. just walk to the fishing area or whereever. find the most expesive sunglasse you can tear off the tag and put them on your head. _____________________________________________ clothing=hats or shirts. cost=5-30$ for hats just go up to the hat racks find the most expensive one. tear off the tag and put it on your head. for shirts it is trickier. get the shirt of your choice. get a few other shirts. fold up the shirt you want and put it inside another shirt then go to the changing room. or just lie about how much stuff you have. you can go from there. _____________________________________________ shoes= DO NOT TRY TO STEAL SHOES. MY FRIEND GOT TACKLED BY 5 POLICE OFFICERS WHEN HE DID THIS. _____________________________________________ cd's= cost=9$ and up. this requires a little spening. i buy a lot of cd's. i have noticed half of them dont have magnetic strips in the cases. what you should do is buy a cd. if it doesn't have a magnetic sensor in it then the rest of the same cd's may not have magnetic strips. IM NOT POSOTIVE ON THIS. or yo can do this: get a shirt and put the cd in it. take it to the changing room and do what you got to do. i prefer folding the bottom half of the shirt up to the hanger then putting the cd insind the shirt. so when they ask to see the shirt just hold it up. or you could put it right by the hanger and hold up the shirt. its not that hard. _____________________________________________ lawnmowers= cost=90$-400$ this only works on lawnmower locked up outside. they will have a cable running through the lawnmower handle or something. all you have to do is use your brain and unbolt a few things and slide the chain off. this can be done in 30 seconds _____________________________________________ pots, flowers, anything in the garden area outside= cost=2$ up to 500$ this is a good one. have you ever seen those nice pots outsied in the gardening area. all those flowers and garden statues are pretty expensive, huh? heres what you do:

get a cart. load up the cart full of stuff (pots, garden statues, flowers.) go inside the store with the cart full of merchandise. get in line. ask them how much everything costs. they will start checking the prices and tell you how much it costs. after everything is rung up tell "oh okay i think i will get some diffrent stuff so it is not as expensive. walk out with the cart like you are going to shop outside some more. when you go out just push the cart to your car and load everything up....QUICK. they will probably not watch you. this has worked for people i know. the have done this 3 times a day and made around 600$. the reason you go inside and have them check the prics is so when the other employees see you come outside with the cart they will think that you just bought the stuff. (tee hee.....stupid people). _____________________________________________ giant electronics= televisions, radios, ect. cost=50$ an up to 1000$ this is for professionals only. period. you have to be good with words to make the employees beleive you. heres what you do: go up to the tv or radio. take it somewhere where there is little traffic and few cameras. open the box and look for sensors (only if you want to take it home and yo dont want store credit). if you are getting store credit then just open box and make it look like someone had took it home and used it before...or not. take it to cusomer service to get a refund. you will have to get a pink sticker for it though. its not hard to get one. return a coke and then use the sticker off the coke. BE VERY CAREFUL WHEN DOING THIS. if you are wanting to take it home just get store credit and go buy the exact same thing. _____________________________________________ THE RECEIPT SCAM= this works on anything. buy something that you want for free. buy something like a cd player. take the cd player home and keep it there. go back to the store with your receipt and pick otu the exact same cd player. take it to customer service and return it for cash. for stuff like tv's just bring the empty box then grab a full box and return it. ________________________ for any small items just put them in some pants then take the pants to a changing room. that is the post simple way. this works best with cd's and dvd's i have alot more i will edit my post and add them later when i remember them. how to make big bucks. do all of these things in one day. go store to store with a vehicle and fill it up. the one i like best is gardening scam where you load up the cart with pots and garden statues. and i like the pocket watch scam. cegha
Regular posted 07-14-2006 01:30

for the gardening scam, what i have also done is gone in there late at night, and goto the gardening section, and they have like lil metal stands with plastic numbers on notepads slid into them. Slide them out and change the numbers to something cheaper (not like $0.01), then like when it rings up wrong up front, just say "that's not the price it said in the back." They will then go check the price and see its whatever you set it at. Edit: WHO THE FUCK STEALS WALMART SHOES? [This message has been edited by cegha (edited 07-14-2006).]

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Telescamming / e-mail scamming thru. spam lists

jarmungand
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posted 07-14-2006 04:51

OK guys I need a little help here. I'm trying to set up a paypal / Amex/ MC scam. Basically you send out e-mails/phone calls saying, for example, that your from company x and need to verify john doe's account information in order to such and such, could he please give you his account number, pin, address, so on and so forth. Now obviously all of us here at totse would quickly say "Wait a minute, that's a SCAM!", tell the caller to fuck off and be on with our day. Fortunately for us, there's lots of bimbo's out there who will just go ahead and give out there info. The key to the whole thing however is spamming as many people as possible, cause most likely you only get x% of the people to actually go for it. So I need to know how / where I can get a list of a certain company's customers to spam. I.E.: Phone numbers of Amex customers, e-mail address of paypal users, etc. Any info would be appreciated. Also I already know of several ways to use the numbers once i get them but any fresh ideas on liquidating CC accounts Fed Free would also be greatly appreciated. Hypothetically speaking, -j

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return scam, think it'll work?

jojo_r_thug
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posted 07-14-2006 05:54

I was returning ( legally returning that is ) a dvd player to wal-mart the other day. It wasn't opened and the lady returned it for cash no problem. She never checked to actually see if it was a DVD player in there. I was wondering if it would work to buy a tv. Then go home, take it out, and fill the box with garbage a few rocks etc. to the approximate weight of the tv. Then you carefully reseal it with clear tape so it looks completely unopened. Return it with a receipt and get the hell out of there. Think it could work?? skateboardandkill
Regular posted 07-14-2006 06:04

it could work, but make sure you glue everything down so you can't hear things moving around. or you could take an old tv and put it in the box. they would never know the difference until someone opened the box. just don't get caught or you are super fucked Scooter
Regular posted 07-14-2006 06:09

Sometimes the simpilest scams are the most effective.

jojo_r_thug
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posted 07-14-2006 06:21

so u saying my scam is simple? i think it is. just basiclly a switch-er-oo Grail
Regular posted 07-14-2006 06:23

It's almost fool proof. Here is how I would make it totally fool proof: 1. Go at a busy time. 2. If it came with shrink wrap to begin with, open it very carefully and re-shrink wrap it.. nobody is going to bother unwrapping it. 3. Your excuse should be something like "it was a gift" not "it didn't work" otherwise it still being shrink wrapped doesn't make sense. Then if they DO open it, you can get pissed "you sold me a bucnh of rocks wtf" because you said you never opened it anyway. snolik
Regular posted 07-15-2006 20:15

When you return something dont they ask for ID and signature? Maybe not at a scarpy kmart- so ill try it there. Ill buy a 19in television and throw in my old 19 in it. Could possible get a fake and use that with fake signature. if anything happens ill run the fuck out of the place swinging my arms in all directions

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Box Car Shopping

The Death Monkey
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posted 07-15-2006 09:11

Alright, I've been plagued by this idea for years now, ever since high-school. I live near a trainyard/shipping port, infact its supposedly the Northwest's biggest trainyard. This trainyard ships and imports something like 500,000,000 pounds of freight every day. Now, there are a lot of trains that are left there for days, or even sometimes weeks, because the queue is so huge on the trains and boats that come through. My train of thought leads me to beleive that a trainyard wouldn't be super heavily guarded at night, and that with the right tools it wouldn't be so hard to break into a boxcar and rummage through its contents. You have to figure, there are thousands or iPods, Playstations, Xboxs, games, TVs, and other gadgets (plus beans, rice, grain, and all that other stuff) that comes from over seas. Has anyone ever gone Boxcar shopping? If so, how hard is it to break into one? I know there are several inherent risks that come with this, like opening up a car only to be buried alive with rice or something shitty like that. I'm about to go round up my tools and make some Google-maps of the trainyard and go do this. I figure if I hit a big score, like a box car for of Xbox-360's or something, I could make a bankload. I already have my fences set up for any merchandise that I might come across, so getting rid of the shit to reliable people isn't a problem.

telecomnerd
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posted 07-15-2006 09:18

Find a way to get new cars off the trains, then you will be in buisiness. But other than that I have nothing to contribute. elmsbanditd
Regular posted 07-15-2006 12:01

im just posting to get this back on the top of the list because a want everyone to see this and hopefully contribute. I got the same thing and i never thought about it. Sioux-Reborn
Regular posted 07-15-2006 15:07

Could be fun. Watch out for dogs. smoke em
Regular posted 07-15-2006 16:05

watch out for security cameras and good luck man [This message has been edited by smoke em (edited 07-15-2006).] schoolsucks
Regular posted 07-15-2006 16:41

i saw on this show called masterminds that this one gang made millions over the years by doing that. kelsokid18
Regular posted 07-15-2006 21:04

That kind of good shit doesn't ship via rail, it ships via boat from gook countries. ResdogMrwhite
Regular posted 07-15-2006 21:39

Watch out for: -Transit/railyard police -cameras -DOGS (big problem!) It will also take ALOT of commitment, you'll see SO many freight containers full of corn syrup/bananas/wheat/corn/rice than you could stand, and when you finally do hit some legit merchandise, like even a shipment full of sunglasses or something potentially lame like that... take it, because in bulk, it is going to make you money. (imagine coming across a train car full of oakley's... I'd wet myself)

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Criminal History Vol.1--The Spanish Prisoner

faithbanks
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posted 07-09-2006 04:16

This is the oldest known swindle, allegedly dating back from 1588. The swindler approaches her mark with a letter, supposedly written by a person unjustly imprisoned in a Spanish castle. The letter states that a certain amount of money, which will serve to bribe his jailers, will secure his release. The letter also alleges that the prisoner has a treasure chest full of valuables, which he will share with the person who puts up the money for his freedom. The victim hands over the money to the swindler, who disappears. It might seem incredible that someone would fall for this today. But there are modern variations, as swindlers keep up with the times. One is that the prisoner is incarcerated in a third world country. The money requested may be for bribes or to hire a force of mercenaries to mount a commando style raid to rescue the prisoner. The treasure chest story is very old, and the modern version is that the prisoner has a cache of bearer bonds or a numbered account in a Swiss bank. The swindler tailors his story to the needs and the fashions of the moment which enables him to get more mileage out of an old con game. SWIM first heard about the Spanish Prisoner fraud in "The Rip Off Book" by Victor Santoro. SWIM cooked up a modern version of the scheme. Basically, she said that her brother was imprisoned for trying to help this "shunned" woman who was to be executed for having a baby out of wedlock in Cameroon. He was to be executed within 60 days if a certain amount of money wasn't given to the Cameroonian government to pay for his release. The U.S. government would not get involved because it is already in enough trouble and is trying to maintain some semblance of peace without getting the rest of the world on their back. Therefore, SWIM turned to some people on a mailing list for help (tee hee). She sent them a letter with this bullshit. What was to be the reward for them giving her the money for her "brother's" release? Well the brother had a cache of Swiss bearer bonds and a share in a lucrative business venture that he would give to the people who helped him after his release. These suckers actually sent in the money. Every day there were letters in the mail along with some cash (SWIM told them the money had to be in the form of cash because time was of the essence and SWIM couldn't wait for checks to clear and didn't have the time to process cards and money orders). People actually still email SWIM to this day asking if SWIM's brother has been released. That just goes to show you that the players and the tools may change, but the game, ladies and gentlemen, remains the same. [This message has been edited by faithbanks (edited 07-09-2006).] lsd_easy_as_abc
Regular posted 07-09-2006 04:42

or you could walk aroud with an empty cofee can and a sign that says "help fight cancer"

faithbanks
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posted 07-09-2006 05:26

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Originally posted by lsd_easy_as_abc: or you could walk aroud with an empty cofee can and a sign that says "help fight cancer"

There were reasons that SWIM didn't want to do this. 1. People could identify her as when the chips came down there would be witnesses and a face to match to the crime. 2. SWIM wants more than a container of quarters...what do you think this is, Ronald McDonald House? (I'm just joking man. ) Seriously though, SWIM may consider your coffee can scheme if things get tight. And SWIM is also considering the pedophile baiting scheme on TOTSE... viz7bl
Regular posted 07-09-2006 06:16

Finished reading the first two paragraphs and it just sounds like a nigerian scam via email. I don't think you'll fish in too many people, but it could be worth it if you stick at it enough. faithbanks
Regular quote: posted 07-09-2006 22:47

Originally posted by viz7bl: Finished reading the first two paragraphs and it just sounds like a nigerian scam via email. I don't think you'll fish in too many people, but it could be worth it if you stick at it enough.

I have already done it. Later in the post after the paragraphs you read, I spoke about how I had hustled these suckers. And I didn't do it via email. Hey, grandma was right! Sometimes old fashioned is better. I did it via snail mail because people are more likely to read unsolicited paper mail than unsolicited email. It also made it seem more legitimate. Few people can

resist a shiny new letter with their name on it. It didn't get expensive as I stole the paper and envelopes and I counterfeited the stamps. I enjoyed this scam. I even had people sending my "brother" Hallmark cards saying that they were "thinking of him". [This message has been edited by faithbanks (edited 07-09-2006).] Dude580
Regular quote: posted 07-10-2006 02:02

Originally posted by faithbanks:

Seriously though, SWIM may consider your coffee can scheme if things get tight. And SWIM is also considering the pedophile baiting scheme on TOTSE...

it really isnt that far off though when Craig on malcom in the middle said he whent into chat rooms saying he was a young girl and that older men would buy him airline tickets to see them Optionryder420
Regular posted 07-10-2006 04:19

Okay, to the new guys. Faithbanks always comes in here with OLD ass schemes and ideas and claims they work. Telling us she'd print fake money orders onto 20lb paper(which is regular printer paper) and people believed it and sent whatever directly to her place of residence. So many loopholes in her stories that it isn't even funny. Dark Kaiser
Regular posted 07-10-2006 09:42

419

faithbanks
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posted 07-10-2006 23:57

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Originally posted by Optionryder420: Okay, to the new guys. Faithbanks always comes in here with OLD ass schemes and ideas and claims they work. Telling us she'd print fake money orders onto 20lb paper(which is regular printer paper) and people believed it and sent whatever directly to her place of residence. So many loopholes in her stories that it isn't even funny.

Being that you've never tried it, then how would you know where there are loopholes and if there are loopholes? You say this about all of my schemes and yet you have no experience with those said schemes so how are people to know whether you are right or whether I am right? Talk is cheap Whine-ona Ryder. And my schemes are old? As you would see if you studied criminal history that there is nothing new under the sun...there are only new spins and twists that are updated for the new crowd of suckers that are born every goddamned minute. Optionryder is a hater folks...he hates me because I believe in uplifting my fellow females, because I see society for what it is and because I am a booster....yet he frequents a forum called bad ideas? What the hell else do you expect in bad ideas? How to open a McDonald's franchise or something actually legal? Love me or hate me, one thing is for certain. My threads are better than those middle school threads about "should I steal this ring pop or not?" or "should I kill my pops or not?" or "this girl won't fuck me on the first date....I want revenge." Bite me. [This message has been edited by faithbanks (edited 07-11-2006).] Optionryder420
Regular posted 07-11-2006 02:29

I admit, you do make better posts then most. But, I'd appreciate actual shit that'd work in Bad Ideas. Not old scams. Especially where you said you'd receive merchandise to your HOME ADDRESS after purchasing it with fake Money Orders. Nothing is believable after you said that.

faithbanks
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posted 07-11-2006 04:17

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Originally posted by Optionryder420: Especially where you said you'd receive merchandise to your HOME ADDRESS after purchasing it with fake Money Orders. Nothing is believable after you said that.

The only reason it worked is because I live in an apartment complex with a high turnover rate and I had people living with me like some halfway house (or so the postal service thought). If I were living in some Leave it to Beaver house alone or with mommy daddy and baby bro, then it would've been pretty easy to pin down who did it even if I did use different false name. My scheme worked because 1. I used gloves so the fingerprints wouldn't match. 2. The authorities are not as up on white collar crime as they are on violent crimes. Why? Let's turn once again to Mr. Santoro's words: "The fact is that crimes against property have lesser penalties than crimes against the person. We value human life highly, and crimes that injure people are, under our laws, the most serious, whether they are for profit or not. Some crimes against the person have great emotional charges and we can expect a judge to throw the book at a child molester more than a bad check artist". I admit I did get some evil letters and collection notices and they threatened to go to the po po and they never did and/or the po po never pursued it. I also got evil letters back with a copy of my fake ass money order and a stamp on it from the Western Union company saying "counterfeit". hahahaha. I noticed that after I pulled this stunt that Western Union had changed its money order format to make it more difficult to counterfeit. Tee hee...I'm a maker of history! I make things happen baby! Woo hoo! Anyhoo, It'd be hard for them to really pin it on me. The clothes are still in my closet that I got from this scheme. I enjoyed it wholeheartedly....I got everything from free contact lenses to clothing from Nordstroms. Looking at my posts and ruminating over this scheme, I must admit you DO have a point....this sounds so unbelievable. Even I can't believe I got away with it....as my schemes go it was a little sloppy and I didn't cover my ass as I should have but whatever. It's just economic crime...the cops and society at large won't take it as seriously as if I had shot someone even if I do get caught. [This message has been edited by faithbanks (edited 07-11-2006).]

Optionryder420
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posted 07-11-2006 04:22

It'd be hard to pin it on you, yet you have clothes and other items from said scam? You're full of shit. faithbanks
Regular quote: posted 07-11-2006 05:38

Originally posted by Optionryder420: It'd be hard to pin it on you, yet you have clothes and other items from said scam? You're full of shit.

Eat it. They can't without a doubt prove where I got those clothes and items from. They've become part of my wardrobe now. As long as it has been I could've gotten them from other sources and it'd be hard to prove. Let's say I got a pair of blue jeans. Well, blue jeans can be from anywhere really...I could've gotten them from the mall or a gift or whatever. Numerous possibilities. But yet, to pin it on me, they need a warrant to search the home and of course by then my questionable goodies can be "hidden". OMG I remember when I had gotten a tip that they were closing in on me and my accompliced and I spent all evening shredding up money orders and getting our story straight in case they were to interrogate us in different rooms but it never happened. Altomint
Regular quote: posted 07-11-2006 07:04

Originally posted by faithbanks: Eat it. They can't without a doubt prove where I got those clothes and items from. They've become part of my wardrobe now. As long as it has been I could've gotten them from other sources and it'd be hard to prove. Let's say I got a pair of blue jeans. Well, blue jeans can be from anywhere really...I could've gotten them from the mall or a gift or whatever. Numerous possibilities. But yet, to pin it on me, they need a warrant to search the home and of course by then my questionable goodies can be "hidden".

OMG I remember when I had gotten a tip that they were closing in on me and my accompliced and I spent all evening shredding up money orders and getting our story straight in case they were to interrogate us in different rooms but it never happened.

You got a tip, eh? Let me guess, you have an insider who works within all branches of local law enforcement and is privy to the variety of investigations that might be on you? They can trace clothing a lot easier than you think. People in different areas may send you clothing from outside your local distributors and it woud stand out. You may also be screwed over by the tags, believe it or not, there are trackable numbers on most. faithbanks
Regular quote: posted 07-12-2006 02:33

Originally posted by Altomint: You got a tip, eh? Let me guess, you have an insider who works within all branches of local law enforcement and is privy to the variety of investigations that might be on you? They can trace clothing a lot easier than you think. People in different areas may send you clothing from outside your local distributors and it woud stand out. You may also be screwed over by the tags, believe it or not, there are trackable numbers on most.

Yikes. I'm glad I no longer do this. I got the tip from a friend who knows someone who works at the local popo office.

Optionryder420
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posted 07-12-2006 03:35

Uh huh... especially since the local police wouldn't be the ones investigating this. telecomnerd
Regular quote: posted 07-12-2006 06:44

Originally posted by faithbanks: Optionryder is a hater folks...he hates me because I believe in uplifting my fellow females, because I see society for what it is and because I am a booster....yet he frequents a forum called bad ideas?

I can see how you may be a good scammer, you have a manipulative personality. faithbanks
Regular quote: posted 07-13-2006 01:33

Originally posted by Optionryder420: Uh huh... especially since the local police wouldn't be the ones investigating this.

Why wouldn't they when the company went crying to them because that is where the house that the goods were shipped to is located?

faithbanks
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posted 07-13-2006 01:34

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Originally posted by telecomnerd: I can see how you may be a good scammer, you have a manipulative personality.

Why thank you! I could have a long career in politics ahead of me if I so chose....but I hate putting on airs and kissing ass and bowing down to society's rules and WORKING and all that stuff so it wouldn't work out. Oh well....at least I still have you guys. Optionryder420
Regular quote: posted 07-13-2006 03:20

Originally posted by faithbanks: Why wouldn't they when the company went crying to them because that is where the house that the goods were shipped to is located?

It's a fake check... That's secret service. You need better stories... maybe the inexperienced people on totse fall for your shit, but the one's that truly know anything can see right through you. faithbanks
Regular quote: posted 07-13-2006 04:38

Originally posted by Optionryder420: It's a fake check... That's secret service. You need better stories... maybe the inexperienced people on totse fall for your shit, but the one's that truly know anything can see right through you.

Listen up V for Vendetta. It was not a fake check...it was a fake money order and even if it were a fake check or a bad check, so what? People do bad checks all the time even people who aren't normal criminal types...they're not getting the secret service in on that. I hope....because the secret service takes time...and I could still be the stew. Optionryder420
Regular posted 07-13-2006 14:44

Okay genius... a money order is in fact a check. It's a check from said company you purchased it from. Hence why most people will take Money Orders instead of Checks. Money Orders usually won't bounce where as Personal checks will. They trust the company to have that amount of money rather then trusting you to have it in your bank account. Your check wasn't a Bad check as much as it was a counterfeit check. If any of your shit is true, you'd be getting monitored and I'd expect you to be in prison by now... especially for even posting about selling drugs too. You'd be racking up the charges for trying to sound like a badass online... Of course, you're just full of shit. So, no worries.

faithbanks
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posted 07-14-2006 03:17

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Originally posted by Optionryder420: Okay genius... a money order is in fact a check. It's a check from said company you purchased it from. Hence why most people will take Money Orders instead of Checks. Money Orders usually won't bounce where as Personal checks will. They trust the company to have that amount of money rather then trusting you to have it in your bank account. Your check wasn't a Bad check as much as it was a counterfeit check. If any of your shit is true, you'd be getting monitored and I'd expect you to be in prison by now... especially for even posting about selling drugs too. You'd be racking up the charges for trying to sound like a badass online... Of course, you're just full of shit. So, no worries.

Okay hater, 1. A money order may be a "check" in the business sense but colloquially it is not considered a check. 2. I use a public computer. 3. Perhaps I am being monitored. I even admitted to that. 4. I don't sell drugs like coke....I sell prescrition pharmaceuticals...there is a difference. 5. Fuck you.

Optionryder420
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posted 07-14-2006 04:04

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Originally posted by faithbanks: Okay hater, 1. A money order may be a "check" in the business sense but colloquially it is not considered a check. 2. I use a public computer. 3. Perhaps I am being monitored. I even admitted to that. 4. I don't sell drugs like coke....I sell prescrition pharmaceuticals...there is a difference. 5. Fuck you.

1. It IS considered a fucking check you god damned retard. I swear to god, how can anyone be so stupid. It's the SAME damn thing as you writing a check out of your own checkbook, except it's the COMPANIES checkbook. 2. Do you actually think a Public computer would help you? In the Carding world, you'd be caught in a heartbeat on a public computer, hence why we wardrive. 3. No, you are not being monitored because you are full of shit. 4. Difference being what? You can die from any drug, even birth control. It's a Felony to sell prescription drugs to somebody without a prescription. Who would even buy birth control from you considering they can get it for free? Someone, anyone, you've gotta at least acknowledge along with me that this bitch is full of shit... faithbanks
Regular quote: posted 07-14-2006 04:17

Originally posted by Optionryder420: 1. It IS considered a fucking check you god damned retard. I swear to god, how can anyone be so stupid. It's the SAME damn thing as you writing a check out of your own checkbook, except it's the COMPANIES checkbook. 2. Do you actually think a Public computer would help you? In the Carding world, you'd be caught in a heartbeat on a public computer, hence why we wardrive. 3. No, you are not being monitored because you are full of shit. 4. Difference being what? You can die from any drug, even birth control. It's a Felony to sell prescription drugs to somebody without a prescription. Who would even buy birth control from you considering they can get it for free? Someone, anyone, you've gotta at least acknowledge along with me that this bitch is full of shit...

1. Yet, many do not consider a money order to be a check they consider checks and money orders to be 2 separate yet similar things. Not my problem. 2. It has. 3. People die all day long. You can die from an aneurysm just sitting at your computer masturbating as u do and arguing with some girl who has never done jack shit to you. If I sold them Aleve (which is OTC), they could have an allergice reaction

to it and die. That's life...there's danger 'round every corner and you cannot blame me for that. 4. Last year, I was wishing I could get this free bc you spoke of...get your shit straight! I've heard you can get bc for free in the UK, but guess what? Not everyone lives there and even for those who do, they need privacy for prying eyes and parents and that's why they come to me. 5. Newsflash Whine-ona Ryder...you're the only one ranting against me. You try to deface me and all women but you and your hatred and evil cannot squash the truth! Hey, I can't please everyone. Even if you don't agree with me, just click out of the thread and/or don't read the post. Others don't seem to be listening to your rants against me. These people have the right to make their own choices as you are making yours. You seem to be a staunch unbeliever hellbent on discrediting me no matter what evidence or scheme I bring forth, but save your breath and take a motherfucking chill pill because the shadow of the things that you are trying to pin on me but reflect back upon you. Peace! [This message has been edited by faithbanks (edited 07-14-2006).] Optionryder420
Regular posted 07-14-2006 14:39

You moron, I don't live in the UK and my girlfriend here in the USA gets FREE birth control. She got 3 months for free and is getting a year for free. faithbanks
Regular quote: posted 07-15-2006 02:42

Originally posted by Optionryder420: You moron, I don't live in the UK and my girlfriend here in the USA gets FREE birth control. She got 3 months for free and is getting a year for free.

So, Option Ryder hasn't done his job as a man and has his lady on medicaid. Tsk tsk tsk We all can't have it like that asswipe. Just because you live in the same country doesn't mean that the same programs are available across the board. There's a such thing as qualifying for them you know. [This message has been edited by faithbanks (edited 07-15-2006).]

MakkoLi
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posted 07-15-2006 03:59

ur right option she is fucken retarded and btw: A money order is a check issued by an organization such as the Postal Service or sold by third parties such as grocery stores, convenience stores, or banks and other financial services companies, to allow individuals to make payments to each other or to pay bills such as utilities and rent. and how do you know people don't consider it to be two different things (ur justification is ur biased opinion) ur so full of shit faithbanks
Regular quote: posted 07-15-2006 04:00

Originally posted by MakkoLi: ur right option she is fucken retarded and btw: A money order is a [b]check issued by an organization such as the Postal Service or sold by third parties such as grocery stores, convenience stores, or banks and other financial services companies, to allow individuals to make payments to each other or to pay bills such as utilities and rent. and how do you know people don't consider it to be two different things (ur justification is ur biased opinion) ur so full of shit[/B]

u need 2 lurn how to speyl, b4 u tri to trash me trailor trash. [This message has been edited by faithbanks (edited 07-15-2006).] telecomnerd
Regular quote: posted 07-15-2006 08:37

Originally posted by faithbanks: 5. Newsflash Whine-ona Ryder...you're the only one ranting against me. You try to deface me and all women but you and your hatred and evil cannot squash the truth!

Goddamn you are a treacherous manipulative bitch, got a pic?

google define:money order an instrument of exchange purchased for a fee from the US Postal Service or from a financial institution. The instrument is an order to pay on demand a sum of money specified on the face of the order to a party (the payee) named by the purchaser. Since the purchaser has already paid the face amount of a money order to the issuer, the payee presenting the order to an agent of the issuer is sure of collecting the funds. ... google define:check A cheque (British English) or check (American English), thought to have developed from Persian •• chek, is a negotiable instrument instructing a financial institution to pay a specific amount of a specific currency from a specific demand account held in the maker/depositor's name with that institution. Both the maker and payee may be natural persons or legal entities. [This message has been edited by telecomnerd (edited 07-15-2006).] Optionryder420
Regular quote: posted 07-15-2006 14:03

Originally posted by faithbanks: So, Option Ryder hasn't done his job as a man and has his lady on medicaid. Tsk tsk tsk We all can't have it like that asswipe. Just because you live in the same country doesn't mean that the same programs are available across the board. There's a such thing as qualifying for them you know.

Ever think she just can't go on her parents insurance because they'd find out and they're big time lutherans? And nice reply to the kid whom was correct... faith, you just keep proving to me to be dumber. I mean, why would a money order have check routing numbers on it? Let that sink in, THEN respond.

absolutecaliber
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posted 07-15-2006 16:32

Who cares, honestly? Either way, I personally don't give a fuck. faithbanks
Regular quote: posted 07-16-2006 03:40

Originally posted by telecomnerd: Goddamn you are a treacherous manipulative bitch, got a pic? google define:money order an instrument of exchange purchased for a fee from the US Postal Service or from a financial institution. The instrument is an order to pay on demand a sum of money specified on the face of the order to a party (the payee) named by the purchaser. Since the purchaser has already paid the face amount of a money order to the issuer, the payee presenting the order to an agent of the issuer is sure of collecting the funds. ... google define:check A cheque (British English) or check (American English), thought to have developed from Persian •• chek, is a negotiable instrument instructing a financial institution to pay a specific amount of a specific currency from a specific demand account held in the maker/depositor's name with that institution. Both the maker and payee may be natural persons or legal entities.

Thanks for the compliment but faith is careful about revealing pics especially in her line of work. faithbanks
Regular quote: posted 07-16-2006 03:41

Originally posted by Optionryder420: Ever think she just can't go on her parents insurance because they'd find out and they're big time lutherans? And nice reply to the kid whom was correct... faith, you just keep proving to me to be dumber. I mean, why would a money order have check routing numbers on it?

Let that sink in, THEN respond.

“Ever think she just can't go on her parents insurance because they'd find out and they're big time lutherans? " Whatever. I was just joking when I made that comment. “And nice reply to the kid whom was correct... faith, you just keep proving to me to be dumber.” Your second sentence makes not much sense and you’re trying to call me dumb? Hahahahaha. And fuck the kid...if he can’t take the heat then get the hell off of totse. That’s what he gets for trying to diss some girl he doesn’t even know. If he’s that much of a kid, then he should be eating out of a Power Rangers lunch box not conversing with criminals. “I mean, why would a money order have check routing numbers on it?" Is my name Western Union? If not, then I don't give a shit, a damn nor a fuck why or why not certain modes of payment have routing numbers on them. I never said that I didn’t personally think that a money order could be a type of check. I only said what people have said. Don’t slay the messenger. You just love to get one thing and ryde it into the ground don’t you Cockryder? “Let that sink in, THEN respond.” Thy will be done SOB. And get out of my thread if you’re not going to speak on the topic. This is supposed to be a thread about the Spanish Prisoner Scheme and here you are bringing up old money order debates from last year. [This message has been edited by faithbanks (edited 07-16-2006).]

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Topic:

Quentin's Guide to Various Bad Ideas

viz7bl
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posted 07-15-2006 05:46

http://quentin.tk Guides and tutorials aimed to help and motivate you in your illegal activities. I will be paying up to $10 for detailed, in depth guides. Completed thus far: Becoming Anonymous ---------------------

Formatting: Needs someone to create a guide on proper formatting procedures, sites that do it for you, and how often and when it should be done. Proxy Guide: Needs someone to create an in depth guide on how proxies work and how to get the average internet user started on one. Needs suggested programs and example proxy addresses included. Pay Pal Anonymous: Currently being worked on. Anonymous Shipping: Done. Larceny Guides and Activities ----------------------------Ebay Scams: Partially complete, topics thus far: -The Western Union Scam -The Free Item Scam -The Wholesale List Scam -The Picture Only Scam In need of more guides on PUBLIC Ebay scams. I'm not releaseing scams that Ebay has yet to catch on to for the public. Freebie Sites Partially completed. So far it includes a site that sends free smokes to your house, free magazine subscriptions, and a free pocket knife. I have several more that I haven't gotten around to posting yet, and if you have any that you know of, email me. Shoplifting Guides Partially completed. So far: -Barcode Swapping: How to get your shit for a cheaper price. -Creating a Magic Bag: (SilentMind will be doing this) I am still in need of shoplifting technique and strategy guides.

Lock Picking Tutorials: Partially completed. Done so far: -Purchasing Your Lock Picks: Various sites that sell picks. -Creating Your Lock Picks: Video teaching you to create your own lock pick set from hacksaw blades. -Kensington Locks: Video explaining the weakness of these locks through impressioning I'm still in need of detailed in depth lock pick tutorials, preferrably with pics. Vending Machine Guides: Completed. It will be updated with new, better pictures and a more in depth look later. -Coca Cola Drink Machines: Describes the debug menu for these machines and what you can do with it fully in depth. -Snack Vending Machines: My guide on getting the change from snack vending machines with little physical damage involved. -7 & 8 pin tubular locks: A guide on using 7&8 pin tubular lock picks to their full effectiveness on vending machines. ------------------------------------That's all I have so far on the site. I'll be adding more over the week and hopefully a better layout and possibly a comment system for the guides. My contact on the site wasn't working so it's been changed to [email protected] If you had tried to send an email to [email protected] please resend it to the above email address. If you have any suggestions or feedback, I'd love to hear it, so post damnit I'll be keeping the first post updated through edits. viz7bl
Regular quote: posted 07-15-2006 05:48

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Originally posted by RiverDragon: Announcement: Darian_AR is now known as RiverDragon. I did some stupid shit and changed my email address to something that wasn't mine, for shits and giggles. I forgot &totse required email verification so I got pwnt.

Anyway, vis, I emailed you like 20 minutes ago. I'll be back on in a few hours

Got deleted with the original thread. Edit: I still haven't received it Did you email my admin or vizx20 email. The admin isn't working. [This message has been edited by viz7bl (edited 07-15-2006).] Ocontoa
Regular posted 07-15-2006 05:48

Your site is down, my friend. viz7bl
Regular quote: posted 07-15-2006 05:50

Originally posted by Ocontoa: Your site is down, my friend.

I clicked the link and it took me right to it. It's something wrong with your ISP or browser. Anyone else having difficulties? RiverDragon
Regular quote: posted 07-15-2006 06:02

Originally posted by viz7bl: Got deleted with the original thread. Edit: I still haven't received it Did you email my admin or vizx20 email. The admin isn't working.

my bad

I'm just gonna skull fuck this damn rock.com email address. it's [email protected] or [email protected].. give me a holler RiverDragon
Regular posted 07-15-2006 06:14

[worship] vis, that's an awesome guide you have there about the vending machines! I remember reading it once or twice, but I could never get the pictures to work with it. You deserve a pot brownie! Also, do you have any experience with that? Theoretically how long would it take with about an hour practice, to get into one of those machines with the 7-8 pin tubular picks? Because if it can be done in very little time with practice, I'd be very very interested in investing in a set.[/worship] SilentMind
Regular quote: posted 07-15-2006 19:24

Originally posted by RiverDragon: [worship] vis, that's an awesome guide you have there about the vending machines! I remember reading it once or twice, but I could never get the pictures to work with it. You deserve a pot brownie! Also, do you have any experience with that? Theoretically how long would it take with about an hour practice, to get into one of those machines with the 7-8 pin tubular picks? Because if it can be done in very little time with practice, I'd be very [b]very interested in investing in a set.[/worship][/B]

I bought a pair(First of all, the 8-pin has been completely useless to me. Check your area first. -Everything- around here uses 7-pins.) and it hasnt done anything for me yet. I read every tutorial I could find, and I could never make it work on the vending machines. I went out and bought a cheap bicycle u-lock that also uses a 7-pin tubular. It made claims on being really secure and its a pretty solid lock. I can pick it easily. (Although sometimes the pins get pushed too far back for some reason, so If it doenst turn, I have to push them back up and try again.) When it works its pretty quick. The locks on the coke machines are Ace II though, and I cant seem to compromise one for the life of me. I've tried coke machines and snack machines in several different locations. I even fucked up the cylinder inside my pick by torquing too hard. I'd love to see any further information on this one as well.

RiverDragon
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posted 07-15-2006 22:19

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Originally posted by SilentMind: I read every tutorial I could find, and I could never make it work on the vending machines. The locks on the coke machines are Ace II though, and I cant seem to compromise one for the life of me. I've tried coke machines and snack machines in several different locations.

Yeah, this was my original intention, gaining access to coke/snack machines. I'll definately have to lift some tools to make a set later this week... carltonbcool
Regular posted 07-16-2006 06:23

viz7b1 you said "I am still in need of shoplifting technique and strategy guides." could you describe what it is you are looking for in the strategy guide and shoplifting techniques. are you looking for diffrent ways to shoplift and the best ways to do it? like shoplifting tips? are you looking for new shoplifting scam ideas or the most up to date and most successful ways to shoplift big items? are you looking for really clever ways of shoplifting stuff? are you looking for easy, tiny things to shoplift that cost alot. please tell me what it is you are looking for. i might be able to help you out. edit: you said you would pay 10$ for in depth guides. you dont have to pay me 10$. i will type up some guides for free to help the bad ideas community. and i will type the guides in great detail and in depth. that is if you want me to type a guide. i had another post titled "walmart!!!! what to steal, how to steal it and how much it cost". but most of the stuff in that post is pretty much common sense. i have alot more information that i am willing to type into a guide for you and for the totse community. oh and if you do want me to type a guide...dont worry i will use proper grammer, puncuation, and capitilization. [This message has been edited by carltonbcool (edited 07-16-2006).]

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Topic: wal mart!!! barcode swapping- no scanning and printing barcodes make 300$ easy a day

carltonbcool
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posted 07-13-2006 08:47

you must read this. alright, i don't know if this has been discussed before but i figured i would post just in case it hasn't. you can use this to make around 300$ in store credit a day without even really stealing. there is almost no way to get caught doing this. it is so simple i have seen alot of post about scanning a barcode and printing it out and then taping the barcode to a more expensive item to save money. but you dont have to go home and scan and print the barcode. just use the following method. and you can return the item for more than you payed for it alright, go to the store and go to the bikes area or the fishing area. if you look at the fishing poles or bikes you will see on them a yellow and white sticker with a barcode. the fishing poles have them around the handle just below the reel. the bikes will most likely have them on the light reflector in front of the handle bars but it could be anywhere on the bike. heres what you do (its pretty much common sence): grab a cheap fishing pole (20$ or less you decide) and walk to a place where there is no cameras or where they can barely see you. as you are walking carefully pull off the barcode sticker. once you get it off go back to the fishing area and put it back. grab a more expensive pole (around 50-80$ you decide) and walk around toa diffrent place with no cammeras. as you are walking pull off the barcode sticker and put it on a peice of plastic (cut a peice of a 20 oz pop bottle or use a square peice of an aluminu can. after you stick the expensive barcode on the pastic put it in your pocket. put the cheap barcode on the expensive fishing pole and puchase it. take the pole home and put the expensive barcode back on the pole. go back the next day and return it for the expensive price. note: use the peice of the aluminum can or plastic bottle to hold the bar codes. the reason i say this so the barcode doesn't get folded onto itself. if you stick it right in your pocket the adhesive sticky stuff will rub off on your pants and it will not stick to the pole. after you return the pole for the expensive price keep the cheap barcode that way you can use it more and more. i have used this once. i got a 60$ fishing pole for 6$ and returned it the same day for 60$ in store credit. by using this you will make money easy. by it cheap return it expensive. if you dont understand what i mean then i am sorry edit: VERY INMPORTANT!!!!!! only swap the barcodes. there is another small barcode with some nmbers. it will be white with a gary to balck barcode and numbers. dont pull that off. it is the deapartment #. i tore it off when i tried this my first time and the cashier said "you cant buy this because there is no thingy". im not sure exactly what it is called. but just dont pull it off. the lady scanned the pole and i thought i had but it wouldn't ring up. the cashier then started searching the pole for the other thing that i tore off. i tore it off when i tried this my first time and the cashier said "you cant buy this because there is no thingy" she said "that she has to have that other barcode in order to be able to give credit to the sports deapartment". she siad to go find one that has it one there and to buy it.

i went and did all the barcode swapping over but i didnt pull off the little white and black barcode. after that i was able to buy it. the barcode im talking about is white with a gray to black barcode and lettering. the barcode ink might be easy to smear. you will know what im talking about when you see it. just switch out the price barcodes...the ones that are yellow and white with a black barcode and numbers. it will also have the price on it. thats the one you want to switch out. [This message has been edited by carltonbcool (edited 07-13-2006).] Blue_Yonder
Regular posted 07-13-2006 09:33

This would be fun to try with laptops. Imagine getting a HP DV8000 series costing 1200 for the price of a HP DV5000 series which costs several hundred dollars less. Similar packaging, higher profits, fewer runs, and notoriously busy electronics stores. carltonbcool
Regular quote: posted 07-13-2006 10:07

Originally posted by Blue_Yonder: This would be fun to try with laptops. Imagine getting a HP DV8000 series costing 1200 for the price of a HP DV5000 series which costs several hundred dollars less. Similar packaging, higher profits, fewer runs, and notoriously busy electronics stores.

well the only reason the idea works at walmart on fishing poles and bikes is becuase the price barcodes are stickers and they can be pulled off and stuck on something similar that is more expensive. it doesn't work on merchandise in packaging or boxes because the barcode is permenantly in the packaging. you can still do it but you will have to scan it and print it. that is why i use my method so you dont have to print and scan. Venom
Regular posted 07-13-2006 10:29

nice idea, but... what about what it says on the receipt?

SilentMind
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posted 07-13-2006 14:07

quote:

Originally posted by carltonbcool:

edit: VERY INMPORTANT!!!!!! only swap the barcodes. there is another small barcode with some nmbers. it will be white with a gary to balck barcode and numbers. dont pull that off. it is the deapartment #. i tore it off when i tried this my first time and the cashier said "you cant buy this because there is no thingy". im not sure exactly what it is called. but just dont pull it off. the lady scanned the pole and i thought i had but it wouldn't ring up. the cashier then started searching the pole for the other thing that i tore off. i tore it off when i tried this my first time and the cashier said "you cant buy this because there is no thingy" she said "that she has to have that other barcode in order to be able to give credit to the sports deapartment". she siad to go find one that has it one there and to buy it.

I did that the first time too. I fucked up big time. I was trying to get a $120 dollar video card for 20 bucks, and I used that tag. She got all suspicious and I had to haul out of there double quick. To the other posters: You'd have a really hard time getting a labtop that way. They dont keep those sorts of things out on the floor. You might have better luck with tvs or stereo systems. You'd have to do a no-receipt return, for store credit only. Unless you want to intermingle it with the receipt scam. And printing out the barcode isnt as complicated as you might think. And it gives you much more freedom with merchandise. Also, you dont have to worry about peeling off stickers and ruining them that way.

cegha
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posted 07-13-2006 17:27

if you want to make this scam even easier. At some walmarts they will have random like blue things laying around with shelves, there like tall blue things, with shelves and wheels, and they have a buncha clearance shit. Take a sticker off of one of those things, and go scan it to make sure its like a couple bucks (and says "clearance item" or something else generic) then stick it on whatever you want. Millixion
Regular posted 07-13-2006 17:58

Don't you think it's going to be a little bit awkward when the cashier looks on the screen and sees "fishing pole" for $20 instead of the $350 Xbox360 that you're purchasing? Use your head, man. carltonbcool
Regular quote: posted 07-13-2006 18:27

Originally posted by Millixion: Don't you think it's going to be a little bit awkward when the cashier looks on the screen and sees "fishing pole" for $20 instead of the $350 Xbox360 that you're purchasing? Use your head, man.

im only using this on similar items. i put a cheap barcode off a fishing pole onto an expensive fishing pole to save money. why would i put a barcode from the sports department on an item from the electronics department. the same goes for bikes. i will put a barcode off a cheap bike onto an expensive bike so i can save money. then i will put the expensive barocdes back on there and return it so i can get back more money then i payed for it. my explanation was not the best in my first post. edit: lets say i buy a 80$ fishing pole for 20$ by swapping out the barcodes. when i return it i will return it for 80$. i will only get store credit though. then i take the gift card to a guy who works at the black market and he buys the gift card for 3/4 cash. so i get 60$ cash for spending 20$ on a fishing pole. 40$ cash profit. or i can keep the gift card and have 60$ gift card profit. either way money is money. [This message has been edited by carltonbcool (edited 07-13-2006).]

cegha
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posted 07-13-2006 18:28

quote:

Originally posted by Millixion: Don't you think it's going to be a little bit awkward when the cashier looks on the screen and sees "fishing pole" for $20 instead of the $350 Xbox360 that you're purchasing? Use your head, man.

You should use your head. A. ANYTHING behind the glass case has to be paid for in the back or they send the item to the front. It is never left in your possession. B. I don't think anybody on totse would be stupid enough to put a $20 yellow fishing pole sticker on a xbox 360. Not that they would have access to a xbox 360. See A. Anyways he means put a cheap fishing pole sticker on a expensive fishing pole. Not a fishing pole sticker on a xbox 360. Harde
Regular posted 07-13-2006 18:59

Man they didn't need that other bar code. They were on to you. I've seen this before. They will say they need the other barcode to make sure you pay the right price. That other barcode is a manufacture's code. If not than it's a serial code. scorpio2121
Regular posted 07-13-2006 19:59

I'm going to try a variation of this during the summer, there are certain books ect, but ill print out certain cheap ones for a store, and then just stick them on before i go and pay for them, should work. carltonbcool
Regular quote: posted 07-13-2006 20:36

Originally posted by Harde: Man they didn't need that other bar code. They were on to you. I've seen this before. They will say they need the other barcode to make sure you pay the right price. That other barcode is a manufacture's code. If not than it's a

serial code.

i went back the same day and did it but i didnt pull it off and they fell for it. i bought a 60$ pole for 6$ plus tax. the barcode i was talking about is really small. like the size of a thumb nail but a little smaller. it is way diffrent then the price barcode. it is only black and white. the barcode that is yellow and white with a black barcode and lettering is the one that they use to know the price. i have been succseful when using his method. i will go into walmart today and see if the barcodes are all the same. but if you see the barcode im talking about you will know that they dont use it for the price. it could have been that they were onto and wanted me to go get a diffrent pole with the actual price. but anyway, i wouldn't tear off the tiny barcode. pyromaniac001
Regular posted 07-13-2006 20:49

the only problem with this is that you have to buy very similar items. Computers by the same company, or pens and pencils. carltonbcool
Regular quote: posted 07-13-2006 20:59

Originally posted by pyromaniac001: the only problem with this is that you have to buy very similar items. Computers by the same company, or pens and pencils.

they dont have to be by the same company or the same brand. the fishing poles i swapped were made by diffrent companies and they were diffrent brands. the one didn't even come with a reel but i got away with it. edit: but yeah, they would have to be similar items. fishing poles with pishing poles, bikes wih bikes, radios with radios, you know what i mean [This message has been edited by carltonbcool (edited 07-13-2006).] fighter3233
Regular posted 07-13-2006 21:24

If you go again take pictures of the barcodes you pick off and what you swap. Good idea.

nickds7
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posted 07-13-2006 21:29

cool thanks man, I'm going to try it tomarrow, I work next door at petsmart, and they dont question me on returns or anything like that, aslong as im not stealing anything (im not stealing from a place i work next door too) I can easily just store the item in my break room so no one at home questions what the fuck im doing. I'll post back, if i cant find this post ill post a new one with 'my experiance barcode swapping.' I'll just use all my store credit towards things id want to steal otherwise. [This message has been edited by nickds7 (edited 07-13-2006).] dirty1thong1puller1am1i
Regular posted 07-13-2006 23:11

or go through the SELF CHECKOUT and scan that shit yourself. wow so i could take a 100 dollar pellet gun, put on a barcode from a 20 dollar pellet gun, go through the self checkout and scan it myself and walk out with only paying one fifth of the price. that is pretty smart. Harde
Regular quote: posted 07-14-2006 00:08

Originally posted by carltonbcool: i went back the same day and did it but i didnt pull it off and they fell for it. i bought a 60$ pole for 6$ plus tax. the barcode i was talking about is really small. like the size of a thumb nail but a little smaller. it is way diffrent then the price barcode. it is only black and white. the barcode that is yellow and white with a black barcode and lettering is the one that they use to know the price. i have been succseful when using his method. i will go into walmart today and see if the barcodes are all the same. but if you see the barcode im talking about you will know that they dont use it for the price. it could have been that they were onto and wanted me to go get a diffrent pole with the actual price. but anyway, i wouldn't tear off the tiny barcode.

I know the codes are different. But they don't need that other code to ring it up. Way I see it is that someone say you, and told someone, and when you went to the cashier LP had already told her to take a good look at it before selling it

Harde
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posted 07-14-2006 00:30

Since were talking about shoplifting. heres an idea for free movies, and such. First, buy a movie at the register in the Electronic department with cash. Throw it in your car. Go back in and pickup the same movie. Go out a different exit with the receipt of the originally. When the door goes off you will have a receipt to prove you paid for it. You pay with cash so they have no record of who you actually are. You can later go back and get your money back on the first one. Don't repeatably go back in with the same receipt or they will get suspecious. This will no longer work 2 hours later, because the receipt has a time on it. If you try to get your money back on an item where they scanned a serial code make sure you return the one you actually paid for. I saw a woman a few days ago who tried to return an LCD TV, and when they scanned the serial code they saw that it hadn't been sold. That is all they need to call the police. P.S. If you are caught on a first offence. you will receive a $200 fine, and not be allowed in another one of the companies stores. If you have been caught before it will then be a felony with includes a $5000 fine and/or 5 years in prison. If you are already on probation, your porbation will be revoked and you will receive the maximum penaly for the previous crime. SilentMind
Regular quote: posted 07-14-2006 01:01

Originally posted by Harde: Since were talking about shoplifting. heres an idea for free movies, and such. First, buy a movie at the register in the Electronic department with cash. Throw it in your car. Go back in and pickup the same movie. Go out a different exit with the receipt of the originally.

Wow, I've always dreamed of being able to watch the same movie twice without rewinding. phade
Regular posted 07-14-2006 01:01

Guys just use this idea to rack up the store credit and then use that store credit to buy whatever it is that you want. I mean do this like 10-20 times over the course of the month with to get a good 500 bucks (depends on the items of course) in store credit and then buy whatever it is using the credit. Its going to look suspicious as hell but what can they do about it? Your papers are all valid and original so theres nothing they can do.

cegha
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posted 07-14-2006 01:03

quote:

Originally posted by Harde: Since were talking about shoplifting. heres an idea for free movies, and such. First, buy a movie at the register in the Electronic department with cash. Throw it in your car. Go back in and pickup the same movie. Go out a different exit with the receipt of the originally. When the door goes off you will have a receipt to prove you paid for it. You pay with cash so they have no record of who you actually are. You can later go back and get your money back on the first one. Don't repeatably go back in with the same receipt or they will get suspecious. This will no longer work 2 hours later, because the receipt has a time on it. If you try to get your money back on an item where they scanned a serial code make sure you return the one you actually paid for. I saw a woman a few days ago who tried to return an LCD TV, and when they scanned the serial code they saw that it hadn't been sold. That is all they need to call the police. P.S. If you are caught on a first offence. you will receive a $200 fine, and not be allowed in another one of the companies stores. If you have been caught before it will then be a felony with includes a $5000 fine and/or 5 years in prison. If you are already on probation, your porbation will be revoked and you will receive the maximum penaly for the previous crime.

Dood i just did this the other night, i got my friend a free xbox 360 wireless adapter. There have been like 3 topics about this scam. SilentMind
Regular quote: posted 07-14-2006 01:06

Originally posted by phade: Guys just use this idea to rack up the store credit and then use that store credit to buy whatever it is that you want. I mean do this like 10-20 times over the course of the month with to get a good 500 bucks (depends on the items of course) in store credit and then buy whatever it is using the credit. Its going to look suspicious as hell but what can they do about it? Your papers are all valid and original so theres nothing they can do.

No. No-receipt returns are complicated. The main reason being they require your drivers lisence to complete the transaction. This is so they can keep track of people just like you. I think they let you do it three times within a 6 month period. (I'm pulling the numbers out of my ass, I dont know exactly what they are or how many times, but it is limited.) Afterwards, they dont allow it anymore. In the name of knowledge! [This message has been edited by SilentMind (edited 07-14-2006).] Dark_Magneto
Regular posted 07-14-2006 01:22

Return scams won't work on Wal Mart, and of they do then they'll catch on pretty quick. They require a signature and an ID on returns, so they get information on who exactly is doing the return. Wal Mart also keeps a central database of any and all products they sell. they know what they sold, when they sold it, where it was sold, and the weather during the time of the sale. The best you can hope to get away smooth with is a barcode swap and going though self-checkout. This won't work on things like MP3 players that have the security device on them, or items that have the barcode printed on the actual box. If you're ballsey, you can cut the barcode off of, say, some shitty video card, grab an expensive video card, scan the cheap code you just cut off the box at self-checkout, select "skip bagging" to avoid any weight discrepancies, and take the expensive one. If you get noticed cutting codes off of boxes though, the jig is up. Another idea woul be to just buy the cheap one, scan the barcode, print it out, return the card for a refund, get the expensive one, and use the copied code for the cheap one. There are som potential issues with that though. As soon as you return the cheap card, it's going to get scanned at customer service as returned. you then go to electronics, grab the expensive one, go to self-checkout, and scan the cheap code. if Wal Mart has to scan products that it places back in stock or keeps track of the time between return and repurchase, this could raise a red flag and compromise the mission. If the item gets restocked, someone buys it, and it gets listed as being bought twice, this is going to raise a red flag on your return, which they have your information from. So the safest bet seems to be paying cash at self-checkout and swapping barcodes on similar items to get a discount at best. [This message has been edited by Dark_Magneto (edited 07-14-2006).]

coughfeefomeur07
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posted 07-14-2006 02:56

how about hitting up different walmarts in the same general area. i have about 4 30 min away and 1 local alchemist
Regular posted 07-14-2006 03:35

lots of those price tags have slits cut all around so you cant peel them off easily Cuban
Regular posted 07-14-2006 04:46

Self checkout is really the way to go. If the place has a person who monitors the self-check out, as most do, just make sure the items are similar. This is especially good with computer games, as Walmart doesn't have those behind glass. Tv's, dvd's, etc. are good choices. I suggest printing your own barcodes with a cracked copy of Barcode Magic. cegha
Regular posted 07-14-2006 04:49

my friend wants to know if he can swap a barcode to a hd and then take off the barcode and return it for store credit, w/o getting busted. The only reason i think of this is because the item never "left" the store so to speak. A different item "left" the store. Will they know like if it was stolen or anything. cegha
Regular quote: posted 07-14-2006 04:59

Originally posted by Cuban: Self checkout is really the way to go. If the place has a person who monitors the self-check out, as most do, just make sure the items are similar. This is especially good with computer games, as Walmart doesn't have those behind glass. Tv's, dvd's, etc. are good choices. I suggest printing your own barcodes with a cracked copy of Barcode Magic.

http://www.terryburton.co.uk/barcodewriter/generator/ couldn't you just use that?

Dark_Magneto
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posted 07-14-2006 05:18

quote:

Originally posted by cegha: my friend wants to know if he can swap a barcode to a hd and then take off the barcode and return it for store credit, w/o getting busted. The only reason i think of this is because the item never "left" the store so to speak. A different item "left" the store. Will they know like if it was stolen or anything.

Yeah they will, because since the original barcode was never scanned and they're going to scan it when he attempts the return, it shows up as him returning something that was never purchased. That, and his receipt will show him buying something other than what he's returning.

Splam
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posted 07-14-2006 05:20

quote:

Originally posted by cegha: my friend wants to know if he can swap a barcode to a hd and then take off the barcode and return it for store credit, w/o getting busted. The only reason i think of this is because the item never "left" the store so to speak. A different item "left" the store. Will they know like if it was stolen or anything.

Which basically means they'll have more of one item then they should have. They are being returned an item they never sold. But wtf is up with reciepts? don't they require them?

cegha
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posted 07-14-2006 05:35

magneto he was just going to say he didn't have his receipt, and lost it. But thanks for confirming that for me. Splam, you can return like 3-5 items without a receipt before they start to bitch about you having a receipt. carltonbcool
Regular quote: posted 07-14-2006 06:14

Originally posted by Dark_Magneto: Yeah they will, because since the original barcode was never scanned and they're going to scan it when he attempts the return, it shows up as him returning something that was never purchased. That, and his receipt will show him buying something other than what he's returning.

thats wrong. period. not trying to flame but let me explain. <---hey that kinda ryhmed not really though> they will never know anything. okay, on all products of the same kind all the barcodes are the same. take for example cd players. lets say i was to pick up a cd player and look at the barcode. if i picked up another cd player just like it the barcode would be he exact same. all the cd players like that one would have the exact same barcode. unless if walmart has put a shipping label on there. they put those on more expensive and bigger items (televisions, furniture, ect). every shipping label has a barcode diffrent from the next. none of them are alike. they put these on expensive items so that people cannot return them as easily or scam them with the expensive item. if you are smart you will pull the shipping label off. how would they know it was never purchased. as long as he pulls the shipping label off before he buy's it he will get away. if he doesn't pull the shipping label off they will know the actual price because they will scan it. it is kinda complicated. i have learned through trial and error, and discussions with other shoplifters exactly how they handle returns. so far i have found a way around everything they could use to ruin my plan. just tell them you bought the HD at a diffrent store and that is why it was never scanned. you see, every manufacturer puts the same barcode on every product that is exactly alike. thats how they do with the cd's (^read above about cd's). the manurfacturer will put the barcode right on th packaging and it is shipped to the store. the store has the barcode for the cd player in its system. if every barcode for every product was diffrent then they would have litteraly millions of diffrent barcodes. have you ever gone to an aisle in walmart where the merchandise doesn't have a price on the product. an example is clothes soap or cleaning supplies. when you go to the cleaning supplies area you will see 100's of the same bottle of soap but none of them

have the price on it. well if you look at the shelf that the soap is one you will see a barcode with a price and some numbers. that barcode that is on the shelf is the price for that specific soap. now if you look at the numbers on there then look at the numbers on the soap barcode they will be the same, either that or the barcode will be the axact same. they will not know the HD was never purchased. i know becuase i took a televisio from right inside the store and returned it.<---and i never payed for it and you dont show them the receipt. you just take store credit. tell them you lost the receipt. carltonbcool
Regular quote: posted 07-14-2006 06:18

Originally posted by SilentMind: No. No-receipt returns are complicated. The main reason being they require your drivers lisence to complete the transaction. This is so they can keep track of people just like you. I think they let you do it three times within a 6 month period. (I'm pulling the numbers out of my ass, I dont know exactly what they are or how many times, but it is limited.) Afterwards, they dont allow it anymore. In the name of knowledge!

what i do is pay some guy 5$ to do the return for me. most of the time people will do it for free, to be kind. i have asked people on many ocasions to return it for me. and they will carltonbcool
Regular quote: posted 07-14-2006 06:25

Originally posted by Dark_Magneto: Return scams won't work on Wal Mart, and of they do then they'll catch on pretty quick. They require a signature and an ID on returns, so they get information on who exactly is doing the return. Wal Mart also keeps a central database of any and all products they sell. they know what they sold, when they sold it, where it was sold, and the weather during the time of the sale. The best you can hope to get away smooth with is a

barcode swap and going though self-checkout. This won't work on things like MP3 players that have the security device on them, or items that have the barcode printed on the actual box. If you're ballsey, you can cut the barcode off of, say, some shitty video card, grab an expensive video card, scan the cheap code you just cut off the box at selfcheckout, select "skip bagging" to avoid any weight discrepancies, and take the expensive one. If you get noticed cutting codes off of boxes though, the jig is up. Another idea woul be to just buy the cheap one, scan the barcode, print it out, return the card for a refund, get the expensive one, and use the copied code for the cheap one. There are som potential issues with that though. As soon as you return the cheap card, it's going to get scanned at customer service as returned. you then go to electronics, grab the expensive one, go to self-checkout, and scan the cheap code. if Wal Mart has to scan products that it places back in stock or keeps track of the time between return and repurchase, this could raise a red flag and compromise the mission. If the item gets restocked, someone buys it, and it gets listed as being bought twice, this is going to raise a red flag on your return, which they have your information from. So the safest bet seems to be paying cash at selfcheckout and swapping barcodes on similar items to get a discount at best.

all the barcodes for a certain product are the same. if steal a CD player and return it they will not know it was never purchased. i have stolen stuff from one store and returned it at another store without a problem at all. if i steal a cd player and try to return it they will not know when it was pucrhased, where it was purchased, or if it was sold. the reason is because they have 1,000's of other cd player with the exact same barcode.

coughfeefomeur07
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posted 07-15-2006 07:00

while at a self checkout couldn't you always just scan a pack of gum and then just pass the expensive item on the little pad so it doesn't trigger the alarm so that you get something that costs like whatever amount for like 30 cents

making eggs without a pan
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posted 07-15-2006 07:28

For everyone who's skeptical, this does work, i just did it 4 hours ago, no joke. me and a couple of my friends drove up to walmart, scratched a barcode off a cheap fishing rod, put it one that costs 50 bucks, right over the other barcode without even taking it off. Casually went up, bought it, went into our car, waited half an hour, took off the cheap barcode, sent my friend who didn't go in the first time to return it, viola! 40+ store credit. It was sketchy as fuck...it would have been better if we returned it the day after. The reason it works is that walmart has a no receipt needed policy. The other issue is its store credit. we plan to do this multiple more times (possibly at different walmarts and then eventually buying an ipod or something like that and selling it on ebay still in the package...you get the idea. This does work, and it's simple as hell...yeilds much better than left handing. cegha
Regular quote: posted 07-15-2006 07:44

Originally posted by making eggs without a pan: For everyone who's skeptical, this does work, i just did it 4 hours ago, no joke. me and a couple of my friends drove up to walmart, scratched a barcode off a cheap fishing rod, put it one that costs 50 bucks, right over the other barcode without even taking it off. Casually went up, bought it, went into our car, waited half an hour, took off the cheap barcode, sent my friend who didn't go in the first time to return it, viola! 40+ store credit. It was sketchy as fuck...it would have been better if we returned it the day after. The reason it works is that walmart has a no receipt needed policy. The other issue is its store credit. we plan to do this multiple more times (possibly at different walmarts and then eventually buying an ipod or something like that and selling it on ebay still in the package...you get the idea. This does work, and it's simple as hell...yeilds much better than left handing.

Think this would work if i stuck a generic clearance sticker over a HD barcode?

carltonbcool
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posted 07-15-2006 07:45

the only thing with swapping fishing pole barcodes is that the sticker barcode has little notch-like things cut into it so it will tear in half if someone tries to pull it off. but if you pull up on both sides of the barcode at the same time and pull it lightly and a certain way it will not tear. the first time i did this i tore barcodes off of two diffrent poles. they tore right in half. but i did it slowly and pulled it off a certain way and it did not rip. there is a strategy. making eggs without a pan
Regular posted 07-15-2006 09:48

for mine, the barcode was one strip that circled the handle. Very easy to pull off. There was one that was a dollar cheaper, but i ripped the barcode twice and gave up on it. a1b2c3d4c5d6e
Regular posted 07-15-2006 10:08

This sounds pretty good. I'll give it a shot. On a lighter note. http://tinyurl.com/ojo4u pengd0t
Regular posted 07-15-2006 17:19

As for the similar items... I happen to be a vegetarian and there's some expensive exotic stuff in the produce section, so the thing to do is to remember the PLU# for something cheap like parsley (0.67), so that when you self-checkout and it's time to type in the number for your 5.99 veggies... I think you know what to do. It's obviously unwise to have a shopping cart full of pumpkins and a receipt that says: parlsey ..... 0.67 parlsey ..... 0.67 parlsey ..... 0.67 parlsey ..... 0.67 etc. So a little variety goes a long way. [This message has been edited by pengd0t (edited 07-15-2006).] beatle_nut
Regular posted 07-15-2006 18:13

Tried this last night... It worked. They had a $8 pole and a $104 pole! Easiest scam ever! The only downside is that they give you store credit on a gift card, so you can only get shit from there.

coughfeefomeur07
Regular

posted 07-15-2006 20:58

what part of the store is the best place to remove the barcodes Devils Night
Regular posted 07-15-2006 23:59

Did anyone do this scam with bikes yet? Wal-Mart sells alot of shitty Supercycle bikes, i'm sure that you could easily switch the tags with the cheapest and most expensive model. jonogt
Regular posted 07-16-2006 05:25

nickds7, i don't want to go and help anyone pinpoint either of us, but may i ask atleast what state your in? we may be very close to eachother... is it best buy or walmart thats next to your petsmart? or both? Silentmind, you say that no receipt returns to walmart they require you to leave information about yourself with them, but several other people on here are saying they do this and get store credit no big deal. are you saying they require information about you in order for you to get cash? carltonbcool, do people not ask WTF when you want them to return something for you? you mean like friends? to anyone, if i make some barcodes, like just duplicating existing ones, like a barcode for an item that comes up as "USB high speed 2.0" on their computer. then i stick it on a portable hard drive, that may have one of those weird security devices on it, when it rings up for only $20 or something, will they remove the security device without thinking its weird that a $20 item had one of these on it? carltonbcool
Regular quote: posted 07-16-2006 06:05

Originally posted by jonogt: nickds7, i don't want to go and help anyone pinpoint either of us, but may i ask atleast what state your in? we may be very close to eachother... is it best buy or walmart thats next to your petsmart? or both? Silentmind, you say that no receipt returns to walmart they require you to leave information about yourself with them, but several other people on here are saying they do this and get store credit no big deal. are you saying they require information about you in order for you to get cash?

carltonbcool, do people not ask WTF when you want them to return something for you? you mean like friends? to anyone, if i make some barcodes, like just duplicating existing ones, like a barcode for an item that comes up as "USB high speed 2.0" on their computer. then i stick it on a portable hard drive, that may have one of those weird security devices on it, when it rings up for only $20 or something, will they remove the security device without thinking its weird that a $20 item had one of these on it?

i will just go up to somebody who is in line biehind me and ask them to use their ID to return it. they normally will do it and not care. if they dont want to do it i will bribe them with 5$. no they shouldn't think its weird that a 20$ item had a security device. dvd's at walmart have them and the dvd's only cost around 10$.

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Wal-Mart's new relaxed shoplifting policy

madhatter4k
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posted 07-14-2006 19:12

Thought this may be of interest to some of you here...
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Wal-Mart's new relaxed shoplifting policy If you get caught shoplifting at Wal-Mart for the first time, you apparently won't get prosecuted if the goods you nicked are worth less than $25. The New York Times received internal documents outlining this new policy. Previously, police were called if the shoplifter was nabbed with more than $3 in merchandise. According to the NYT article, police are called to some stores to make as many as a half-dozen arrests a day, "prompting a handful of departments to hire an additional officer just to deal with the extra workload." From the New York Times: J. P. Suarez, who is in charge of asset protection at Wal-Mart, said it was no longer efficient to prosecute petty shoplifters. “If I have somebody being paid $12 an hour processing a $5 theft, I have just lost money,” he said. “I have also lost the time to catch somebody stealing $100 or an organized group stealing $3,000...” Retailers, (Joseph J. LaRocca, vice president for loss prevention at the National Retail Federation) said, have learned that prosecuting small shoplifting cases “does not warrant the store resources or the judicial resources required, given the dollar amount that was stolen.” In some cases, loss prevention executives said, retailers will prosecute only shoplifters who steal at least $50 or $100 worth of merchandise. The

legal costs required for prosecution, they said, are simply too high. Stores must hire a lawyer for employees who become witnesses in a trial, for example, and pay workers overtime to appear in court.

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